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August 09, 2018, 06:49:32 PM
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I supported and held VRC from 2014-2016, I guess you could say I was a bagholder for a while, but I traded and staked my way into profit and then sold in 2016. VRC had a meteoric rise in 2014 and has never gotten close to that ATH in terms of bitcoin value ever again (like ~40ksats?).

It was at one time in top 10 in market cap (back before CMC was the go to source), but now its sitting at 500th. A shocking fact is that BitConnect...Yes I said BitConnect, even after the scam collapsed still has a higher market cap than VRC. How is that possible, does anyone see value in a 4 year old blockchain? I just don't get how these markets work sometimes....it really just must be COMPLETELY DOMINATED by speculators.

The price action is sooo similar to BlackCoin, I wonder if older coins will ever make a comeback.
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August 09, 2018, 09:50:47 PM
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does anyone see value in a 4 year old blockchain?

It's lasted 4 years...that's gotta be worth something right?  Wink

Admittedly from a speculative standpoint it's somewhat of a moonshot now, but they haven't yet released it's new raison d'etre: the dual blockchain VRC/VRM integrated platform.  I'm genuinely curious to see how the dual blockchain system develops regardless of price.     

As for bitconnect, looks like it's barely traded on one exchange almost nobody uses, so not really a fair comparison IMO.
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August 11, 2018, 11:39:47 AM
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I supported and held VRC from 2014-2016, I guess you could say I was a bagholder for a while, but I traded and staked my way into profit and then sold in 2016. VRC had a meteoric rise in 2014 and has never gotten close to that ATH in terms of bitcoin value ever again (like ~40ksats?).

It was at one time in top 10 in market cap (back before CMC was the go to source), but now its sitting at 500th. A shocking fact is that BitConnect...Yes I said BitConnect, even after the scam collapsed still has a higher market cap than VRC. How is that possible, does anyone see value in a 4 year old blockchain? I just don't get how these markets work sometimes....it really just must be COMPLETELY DOMINATED by speculators.

The price action is sooo similar to BlackCoin, I wonder if older coins will ever make a comeback.

I agree but the markets now are absolutely ridiculous .  The point is that the crypto market defies any logic . The moves are often disconnected of the real economy and are irrational . The same goes for the ATH in Jan . We can't change that all you need to do is to adapt by not putting all the eggs in one basket as much as possible even though I believe you do it already .

Regarding the veteran coins, it's sad to see them where they are now but there is this harsh effect of capital dilution among all the crypto coins. The diversification is done by all the serious investors . No one invest in 1 2 coins. This means the amount of money to come in here will be less than 6 months ago because there is other new project.

Regarding bitconnect v other worthy coins , this is just another evidence regarding the irrationality of the market . Normally if you ask me this coin should have been banned by coinmarketcap longtime ago but well.

The irrationality though can play in the opposite side as well. It may well be somewhere in the future that blackcoin and VRC or some other vet-coins jump to 50x from now. On that day many will say what's so special about them . You'll remember this day and you'll know what to do then  Smiley

In my view to have the old coins somewhere at 50x , we need much more than a stupid market manip. Now it's different, now way more money needs to land in the crypto world to have VRC at 5$ or maybe even 10$. I believe this will happen when we reach a total cryptocap of 1.5 or 2 trillions but this will happen only if things change and something big needs to change or happen such as endorsement by the big companies or EUR volatility or similar. In the state we are now even if ETF is approved i don't expect for the alt-coins to go too far. 
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August 12, 2018, 03:56:31 PM
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If it wasn't for new community members like Phiten, the only Github commits would be Doug changing a comma on a Sunday evening right before dinner.

For sure one mistake we made was setting rough quarter timelines that we didn’t achieve, but please don’t discount my consistent efforts for over 4 years including recently, after being around for 1. This is not a pump and dump, it’s a long term project tackling long term challenges (Eg. CPU mining). It requires patience and a lot of work.

https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin/graphs/contributors

Finally!! he admited the scam the hype objectives that never where,   time lines where a hoax like i say before...  At this point  what i say just acomplished.. too bad... Grin Grin Grin Grin Any way keep selling sooner or later i will have a 40% to 45%$ of this coin.... feeding under 3.5k yummi.

what a looser
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August 12, 2018, 04:10:21 PM
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Verium P2Pool

Verium P2Pool Frontend


Verium P2Pool with unique Verium P2P Frontend is running but we need to optimize the code to scale which we are working on. P2Pool is written in Python which isn't the most efficient coding language to use. We are working on converting the Python code to C++/Nodejs to make it more efficient and the ability to scale which we need for mobile phones and other devices to mine on. We have veqtrus one of the main Bitcoin P2Pool devs working with us on it and we are looking for other devs to contribute to speed up development. When we finish the conversion we will have one of the most efficient P2Pool networks which not even Bitcoin has.


Yeah  aha  aha, more hype from the clown!!!
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August 13, 2018, 08:17:20 AM
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Thank you all for banning me from slack for telling that development is stopped and no more peoples cares about. Seems like truth..hurts. Good job, really.

The development hasn't stopped! We pulled a new devs on board working on the 0.16 core update right now and 1.7.2 will be released this week.

would be nice to see official win builds v1.7.2

We will release them this week, we are currently testing the final Mac builds.

Thank you all for banning me from slack for telling that development is stopped and no more peoples cares about. Seems like truth..hurts. Good job, really.

Wow, thank you for sharing. One of the biggest miners being banned for asking important questions?
A big red flag there!

jacko is everything but not a big miner sorry. I haven't banned him but he wasn't asking questions. He was just ranting around and didn't even listen to what we/the other members said.

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Oh sorry i must be mixing people. Thought ha had a big mining farm and mined pretty much from the beginning without selling.
A supporter like that being banned for asking questions would be a red flag. But as always there is more to the story than what first meets the eye Smiley
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August 13, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
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Thank you all for banning me from slack for telling that development is stopped and no more peoples cares about. Seems like truth..hurts. Good job, really.

The development hasn't stopped! We pulled a new devs on board working on the 0.16 core update right now and 1.7.2 will be released this week.

would be nice to see official win builds v1.7.2

We will release them this week, we are currently testing the final Mac builds.

Thank you all for banning me from slack for telling that development is stopped and no more peoples cares about. Seems like truth..hurts. Good job, really.

Wow, thank you for sharing. One of the biggest miners being banned for asking important questions?
A big red flag there!

jacko is everything but not a big miner sorry. I haven't banned him but he wasn't asking questions. He was just ranting around and didn't even listen to what we/the other members said.

Regards

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Oh sorry i must be mixing people. Thought ha had a big mining farm and mined pretty much from the beginning without selling.
A supporter like that being banned for asking questions would be a red flag. But as always there is more to the story than what first meets the eye Smiley

Well.. If you consider 980,000 h/m a little farm, go for it. Never sold one. Still. Hosted three full nodes, a BlackJack online game (sold to the dev 3 month ago), a Lottery game  and even more. Hosted the first mining pool after the poolinat0r seriers. A private one where even effects joined. Its 3 years now. And I wasn't a big supporter?

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August 13, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
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Co-Creator Douglas Pike (effectsToCause) Explaining the benefits of the Binary-Chain technology:

https://i.imgur.com/NLerGz0.png

Social Links


Swap (VRM/VRC):
Livecoin


VeriCoin Links
VeriCoin Wallet 1.7 NEW

Verium Links
Verium Vault 1.1 NEW


VeriCoin Specifications
VeriCoin Launched: May 10th Midnight EST, PoW Ended May 17th 2014, PoS only
Launched in May of 2014, VeriCoin is a Proof-of-Stake-Time currency with a disinflation targeted interest rate which is dependent on the degree of staking. Stake-Time is a new proof that favors both number the number of coins held and how often they are staked. Together these features make VeriCoin top in security and incentive.
Network
No Premine, No IPO
Minimum Transaction Fee: 0.0001 VRC (Paid to Stakers)
Confirmations: 10, Maturity: 500
RPC Port: 58683, P2Port: 58684
Scrypt
26,751,452.35 VRC Minted during PoW period
Ended at Block 20160
Block Time: 1 minute
Exponential Difficulty Retarget Each Block
2,500 Coins For Each Mined Block
Proof of Stake-Time
Disinflation targeted interest
Min Stake Time of 8 Hours for Interest
No Max Stake Age or Amount

Verium Specifications
Proof of Work-Time: Difficulty dependent blocktime (Max ~6.2 minutes, minimum 15 seconds)
Rewards: Blocktime dependent rewards (~Reward halving every minute decrease in blocktime till 10x VRC supply parity, then variable ~3% disinflation)
Algo: scrypt² (N of 1024² or 128MB per thread)
Block 1: 564,705 VRM minted for ICO participants who purchased VRM using VRC
Minimum Transaction Fee: 0.2 VRM (High commodity transaction fee paid to miners)
RPC Port: 33987, P2Port: 36988
Confirmations: 30, Maturity: 100
Variable block time:
It automatically addresses the scalability issue BTC has.
It increases blockchain performance with security.
It softens the difficulty mechanism without loss of security, so that mining power can grow more efficiently and organically.
Rewards in minutes per mining between blocks enables more profitability of mining that is dependent on power and time burning electric.
A decreasing reward as the blockchain speeds, incentivizes a balance of efficiency and power, while reducing new supply based on demand.
ASIC and GPU inefficient and resistant due to memory latency.
So as a standalone PoW it will be one of the best and most innovative approaches to PoW.

Do you guys have any bounty program?
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Co-Creator Douglas Pike (effectsToCause) Explaining the benefits of the Binary-Chain technology:



Social Links


Swap (VRM/VRC):
Livecoin


VeriCoin Links
VeriCoin Wallet 1.7 NEW

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Verium Vault 1.1 NEW


VeriCoin Specifications
VeriCoin Launched: May 10th Midnight EST, PoW Ended May 17th 2014, PoS only
Launched in May of 2014, VeriCoin is a Proof-of-Stake-Time currency with a disinflation targeted interest rate which is dependent on the degree of staking. Stake-Time is a new proof that favors both number the number of coins held and how often they are staked. Together these features make VeriCoin top in security and incentive.
Network
No Premine, No IPO
Minimum Transaction Fee: 0.0001 VRC (Paid to Stakers)
Confirmations: 10, Maturity: 500
RPC Port: 58683, P2Port: 58684
Scrypt
26,751,452.35 VRC Minted during PoW period
Ended at Block 20160
Block Time: 1 minute
Exponential Difficulty Retarget Each Block
2,500 Coins For Each Mined Block
Proof of Stake-Time
Disinflation targeted interest
Min Stake Time of 8 Hours for Interest
No Max Stake Age or Amount

Verium Specifications
Proof of Work-Time: Difficulty dependent blocktime (Max ~6.2 minutes, minimum 15 seconds)
Rewards: Blocktime dependent rewards (~Reward halving every minute decrease in blocktime till 10x VRC supply parity, then variable ~3% disinflation)
Algo: scrypt² (N of 1024² or 128MB per thread)
Block 1: 564,705 VRM minted for ICO participants who purchased VRM using VRC
Minimum Transaction Fee: 0.2 VRM (High commodity transaction fee paid to miners)
RPC Port: 33987, P2Port: 36988
Confirmations: 30, Maturity: 100
Variable block time:
It automatically addresses the scalability issue BTC has.
It increases blockchain performance with security.
It softens the difficulty mechanism without loss of security, so that mining power can grow more efficiently and organically.
Rewards in minutes per mining between blocks enables more profitability of mining that is dependent on power and time burning electric.
A decreasing reward as the blockchain speeds, incentivizes a balance of efficiency and power, while reducing new supply based on demand.
ASIC and GPU inefficient and resistant due to memory latency.
So as a standalone PoW it will be one of the best and most innovative approaches to PoW.

Do you guys have any bounty program?

Yes, we do https://vericoin.info/bounty/
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August 13, 2018, 04:31:34 PM
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Both "old" pool wallets, vrm.poolinat0r.com and vrm2.poolinat0r.com are still online and working. I was not able to transfer your balance but you will be able to manually withdraw your coins. vrm.poolinat0r.com and vrm2.poolinat0r.com will be accessible for minimum next 3 weeks, you can login normally and hit withdraw.

I just came back from holidays and struggling to withdraw my remaining 10.71 VRM from the vrm2.poolinat0r.com
For a manual cash out it says I need to have a minimum of 100VRM. Is there any way of circumventing that?

Also, what is the full stratum address for the new pool? (sorry, still a bit noobish I am Smiley )
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Both "old" pool wallets, vrm.poolinat0r.com and vrm2.poolinat0r.com are still online and working. I was not able to transfer your balance but you will be able to manually withdraw your coins. vrm.poolinat0r.com and vrm2.poolinat0r.com will be accessible for minimum next 3 weeks, you can login normally and hit withdraw.

I just came back from holidays and struggling to withdraw my remaining 10.71 VRM from the vrm2.poolinat0r.com
For a manual cash out it says I need to have a minimum of 100VRM. Is there any way of circumventing that?

Also, what is the full stratum address for the new pool? (sorry, still a bit noobish I am Smiley )

Contact Testbug to figure that out, he should respond shortly
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Join @bluelynxmktg at Neked Csak Dezso in Budapest on Sunday September 2nd at 16:30.  @xphitenx will join in Prague (Sept 4-5), Amsterdam (Sept 7-8), London (Sept 10-11) and Berlin (Sept 13-14). If you are in these cities, please leave a comment. Look forward to meeting you.



https://twitter.com/VeriCoin/status/1029015896940060672

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Wil VRC get added to any new exchanges?

Well development progress is more needed than exchanges. They are already at decent exchange, but not much news about development.
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If it wasn't for new community members like Phiten, the only Github commits would be Doug changing a comma on a Sunday evening right before dinner.

For sure one mistake we made was setting rough quarter timelines that we didn’t achieve, but please don’t discount my consistent efforts for over 4 years including recently, after being around for 1. This is not a pump and dump, it’s a long term project tackling long term challenges (Eg. CPU mining). It requires patience and a lot of work.

https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin/graphs/contributors

Finally!! he admited the scam the hype objectives that never where,   time lines where a hoax like i say before...  At this point  what i say just acomplished.. too bad... Grin Grin Grin Grin Any way keep selling sooner or later i will have a 40% to 45%$ of this coin.... feeding under 3.5k yummi.

what a looser

Hey rafaeljosecarrascoperez and maximus,

Yes, you are both major loosers. And you haven't been here long enough to even have an opinion much less voice it. I'm one the original investors, I'm sure you are not. If anyone has reason to bitch it's me but, you don't see me posting garbage in here do you? Do you think it's "cool" to be an ass? Perhaps you need an earlier bedtime and less sugar in your diet...

To the Veri Team, keep up the good work, time is not really the issue, quality will prove itself the real yardstick of success. We will see a new market in 2019 and you guys will be one of it's leaders. If all we cared about was price, every project would be a scam...





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If it wasn't for new community members like Phiten, the only Github commits would be Doug changing a comma on a Sunday evening right before dinner.

For sure one mistake we made was setting rough quarter timelines that we didn’t achieve, but please don’t discount my consistent efforts for over 4 years including recently, after being around for 1. This is not a pump and dump, it’s a long term project tackling long term challenges (Eg. CPU mining). It requires patience and a lot of work.

https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin/graphs/contributors

Finally!! he admited the scam the hype objectives that never where,   time lines where a hoax like i say before...  At this point  what i say just acomplished.. too bad... Grin Grin Grin Grin Any way keep selling sooner or later i will have a 40% to 45%$ of this coin.... feeding under 3.5k yummi.

what a looser

Hey rafaeljosecarrascoperez and maximus,

Yes, you are both major looser. And you haven't been here long enough to even have an opinion much less voice it. I'm one the original investors, I'm sure you are not. If anyone has reason to bitch it's me but, you don't see me posting garbage in here do you? Do you think it's "cool" to be an ass? Perhaps you need an earlier bedtime and less sugar in your diet...

To the Veri Team, keep up the good work, time is not really the issue, quality will prove itself the real yardstick of success. We will see a new market in 2019 and you guys will be one of it's leaders. If all we cared about was price, every project would be a scam...


Rafael is a bitch acting as a bitch. We all know that, and we all just don't care.
Maximaus has his own reasons too. But you just can't say that the project is "really going on". We already missed the chance to activate the binary chain. (Or maybe we didn't because things are not ready? Still? Imagine if the binary switch is still...just a concpet. I don't wanna think about it because that scares me.)

None is trying to "be an ass", except from Rafael, but, well, none cares. I just hope to see a lateral movement on BTC, in order to see VRM recover as much as it can, to cover all my losses.


Doug has great ideas, nothing against him, as he should know. But considering the time spent over this, we need more active devs (And with active devs i mean: guys who get the job done and release a definitive working release pairing both coins!). We need that binary switch to be activated. Are you just scared for VRC? Are you scared about the impact that binary chain can have over it? Do it. It's on the schedule. It's on schedule FROM MONTHS. Otherwise, we'll see just a pair of coins...well...slowly bleeding until death.


PS: About that ProjectSocial. Well. That surely was a joke. Soon release. Not more than a week from a public beta! Good! If that wasn't said..more than 1 year ago.
PS2: We all saw we got pumped with fake exchange volume on bittrex some days ago (everyone can check the order book with ping-pong operations). Actual volume is nothing, compared to the ones we have seen a year ago. Why? Peoples sold and lost interest. Why? They all were waiting for that magical pairing to happen.

Probably I'm angry and sad at the same time. I've never seen an active slack channel like the one we had a year ago. Now is still a wasteland with tumbleweed...if it wasn't for Phiten, who bridged multiple communication channels.. Yeah. Probably more sad and disappointed than angry. I can only be angry with myself: I didn't sold at the top. Because I was believing in this.


Final note, and then you'll probably never hear back from me on this again: VRC/VRM channel has a lot of great guys. Verimad, g4b, Phiten, BlueLynx (who is atleast actively trying to bring meetups back to life), and other. Peoples putting all their soul on this. I hope only for them, that all this work is not wasted at last.

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September 04, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
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If it wasn't for new community members like Phiten, the only Github commits would be Doug changing a comma on a Sunday evening right before dinner.

For sure one mistake we made was setting rough quarter timelines that we didn’t achieve, but please don’t discount my consistent efforts for over 4 years including recently, after being around for 1. This is not a pump and dump, it’s a long term project tackling long term challenges (Eg. CPU mining). It requires patience and a lot of work.

https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin/graphs/contributors

Finally!! he admited the scam the hype objectives that never where,   time lines where a hoax like i say before...  At this point  what i say just acomplished.. too bad... Grin Grin Grin Grin Any way keep selling sooner or later i will have a 40% to 45%$ of this coin.... feeding under 3.5k yummi.

what a looser

Hey rafaeljosecarrascoperez and maximus,

Yes, you are both major looser. And you haven't been here long enough to even have an opinion much less voice it. I'm one the original investors, I'm sure you are not. If anyone has reason to bitch it's me but, you don't see me posting garbage in here do you? Do you think it's "cool" to be an ass? Perhaps you need an earlier bedtime and less sugar in your diet...

To the Veri Team, keep up the good work, time is not really the issue, quality will prove itself the real yardstick of success. We will see a new market in 2019 and you guys will be one of it's leaders. If all we cared about was price, every project would be a scam...


Rafael is a bitch acting as a bitch. We all know that, and we all just don't care.
Maximaus has his own reasons too. But you just can't say that the project is "really going on". We already missed the chance to activate the binary chain. (Or maybe we didn't because things are not ready? Still? Imagine if the binary switch is still...just a concpet. I don't wanna think about it because that scares me.)

None is trying to "be an ass", except from Rafael, but, well, none cares. I just hope to see a lateral movement on BTC, in order to see VRM recover as much as it can, to cover all my losses.


Doug has great ideas, nothing against him, as he should know. But considering the time spent over this, we need more active devs (And with active devs i mean: guys who get the job done and release a definitive working release pairing both coins!). We need that binary switch to be activated. Are you just scared for VRC? Are you scared about the impact that binary chain can have over it? Do it. It's on the schedule. It's on schedule FROM MONTHS. Otherwise, we'll see just a pair of coins...well...slowly bleeding until death.


PS: About that ProjectSocial. Well. That surely was a joke. Soon release. Not more than a week from a public beta! Good! If that wasn't said..more than 1 year ago.
PS2: We all saw we got pumped with fake exchange volume on bittrex some days ago (everyone can check the order book with ping-pong operations). Actual volume is nothing, compared to the ones we have seen a year ago. Why? Peoples sold and lost interest. Why? They all were waiting for that magical pairing to happen.

Probably I'm angry and sad at the same time. I've never seen an active slack channel like the one we had a year ago. Now is still a wasteland with tumbleweed...if it wasn't for Phiten, who bridged multiple communication channels.. Yeah. Probably more sad and disappointed than angry. I can only be angry with myself: I didn't sold at the top. Because I was believing in this.


Final note, and then you'll probably never hear back from me on this again: VRC/VRM channel has a lot of great guys. Verimad, g4b, Phiten, BlueLynx (who is atleast actively trying to bring meetups back to life), and other. Peoples putting all their soul on this. I hope only for them, that all this work is not wasted at last.



While I can see your point, I have to reiterate, Rome wasn't built in a day. Sure, there are more projects progressing faster. Most either have a boat load of money, devs and others or, they are spewing out flawed code or insignificant "updates". When I invested in these guys in 2014, I wasn't looking for a quick return or market shattering prices, I was looking for innovative technology and in that realm, they haven't disappointed. I'll keep holding and following knowing that it will be worth my while at some point and, it won't be a "flash in the pan" When the technology is more important to you than the money, you learn to have patience.

And as for the idiots like rafaeljosecarrascoperez, that have no life and nothing to do all day long, screw off, your opinion is not welcome.

Actually, when you don't see the market as a money making machine, it's easy to be patient. Besides, I share a bit of their past with them even though they don't know it...  Grin
 

 

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If it wasn't for new community members like Phiten, the only Github commits would be Doug changing a comma on a Sunday evening right before dinner.

For sure one mistake we made was setting rough quarter timelines that we didn’t achieve, but please don’t discount my consistent efforts for over 4 years including recently, after being around for 1. This is not a pump and dump, it’s a long term project tackling long term challenges (Eg. CPU mining). It requires patience and a lot of work.

https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin/graphs/contributors

Finally!! he admited the scam the hype objectives that never where,   time lines where a hoax like i say before...  At this point  what i say just acomplished.. too bad... Grin Grin Grin Grin Any way keep selling sooner or later i will have a 40% to 45%$ of this coin.... feeding under 3.5k yummi.

what a looser

Hey rafaeljosecarrascoperez and maximus,

Yes, you are both major looser. And you haven't been here long enough to even have an opinion much less voice it. I'm one the original investors, I'm sure you are not. If anyone has reason to bitch it's me but, you don't see me posting garbage in here do you? Do you think it's "cool" to be an ass? Perhaps you need an earlier bedtime and less sugar in your diet...

To the Veri Team, keep up the good work, time is not really the issue, quality will prove itself the real yardstick of success. We will see a new market in 2019 and you guys will be one of it's leaders. If all we cared about was price, every project would be a scam...


Rafael is a bitch acting as a bitch. We all know that, and we all just don't care.
Maximaus has his own reasons too. But you just can't say that the project is "really going on". We already missed the chance to activate the binary chain. (Or maybe we didn't because things are not ready? Still? Imagine if the binary switch is still...just a concpet. I don't wanna think about it because that scares me.)

None is trying to "be an ass", except from Rafael, but, well, none cares. I just hope to see a lateral movement on BTC, in order to see VRM recover as much as it can, to cover all my losses.


Doug has great ideas, nothing against him, as he should know. But considering the time spent over this, we need more active devs (And with active devs i mean: guys who get the job done and release a definitive working release pairing both coins!). We need that binary switch to be activated. Are you just scared for VRC? Are you scared about the impact that binary chain can have over it? Do it. It's on the schedule. It's on schedule FROM MONTHS. Otherwise, we'll see just a pair of coins...well...slowly bleeding until death.


PS: About that ProjectSocial. Well. That surely was a joke. Soon release. Not more than a week from a public beta! Good! If that wasn't said..more than 1 year ago.
PS2: We all saw we got pumped with fake exchange volume on bittrex some days ago (everyone can check the order book with ping-pong operations). Actual volume is nothing, compared to the ones we have seen a year ago. Why? Peoples sold and lost interest. Why? They all were waiting for that magical pairing to happen.

Probably I'm angry and sad at the same time. I've never seen an active slack channel like the one we had a year ago. Now is still a wasteland with tumbleweed...if it wasn't for Phiten, who bridged multiple communication channels.. Yeah. Probably more sad and disappointed than angry. I can only be angry with myself: I didn't sold at the top. Because I was believing in this.


Final note, and then you'll probably never hear back from me on this again: VRC/VRM channel has a lot of great guys. Verimad, g4b, Phiten, BlueLynx (who is atleast actively trying to bring meetups back to life), and other. Peoples putting all their soul on this. I hope only for them, that all this work is not wasted at last.



While I can see your point, I have to reiterate, Rome wasn't built in a day. Sure, there are more projects progressing faster. Most either have a boat load of money, devs and others or, they are spewing out flawed code or insignificant "updates". When I invested in these guys in 2014, I wasn't looking for a quick return or market shattering prices, I was looking for innovative technology and in that realm, they haven't disappointed. I'll keep holding and following knowing that it will be worth my while at some point and, it won't be a "flash in the pan" When the technology is more important to you than the money, you learn to have patience.

And as for the idiots like rafaeljosecarrascoperez, that have no life and nothing to do all day long, screw off, your opinion is not welcome.

Actually, when you don't see the market as a money making machine, it's easy to be patient. Besides, I share a bit of their past with them even though they don't know it...  Grin
 

 

First of all ill have to thank all my fans around the world...

if the problem was, at the moment i can remmeber where words of veri mad, time for develppppp, resources...

that was the verium reserve for?Huh... to rip you off Grin Grin Grin Grin and build a good  white papper....  i support this project from the day  1 because the devs show their faces, and promise a good tecnology.... many years a go the hack, etc, etc... scam... many hyps, high expectations and big bagholders pumps and etc.. stilllllll buying and selling making some profit...  this is crypto now  days, 0 ideas or tech only profits i prefer the high spectations now.. at least  i have some reading on thech stuff... Ideas that will revolution the payment system...

Wait for the next Ecuation from vericoin devs!!!
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September 16, 2018, 09:19:20 PM
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price talk:
seeing this cenario unfolds on the short time period:



but the long run is what makes me excited:


old chart but you get the idea, VRC is often quite cyclical.

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September 18, 2018, 09:43:09 PM
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price talk:
seeing this cenario unfolds on the short time period:



but the long run is what makes me excited:


old chart but you get the idea, VRC is often quite cyclical.

Those charts were just destroyed by the Polo delisting announcement.  Sad

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