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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 243398 times)
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December 28, 2019, 03:55:22 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2019, 04:40:34 PM by WhyMe
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Finally my WCG account is linked with my wallet.
RAC 657 ... So I need 4500bbp to get my reward ...
To be under 250 we need to run WCG on a pentium III ?
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Last edit: December 28, 2019, 09:54:33 PM by togoshigekata
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Updated Bitcointalk ANN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067231.msg47788843#msg47788843

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Changes:

- Added one line sentence of PODC

Accomplishments
- reordered

Overview
- added Dimensions wiki page
- added Dash coin ANN link

New Features
- added Dynamic Whale Staking
- changed PODC link
- added DashPay

Utility
- added new section with DashPay

Download Wallet
- fixed Linux GUI 64 bit link

Mining Guides
- removed Quick Start
- removed External Miner
- removed Windows
- removed Linux
- added PODC Setup wiki
- added POBH Setup wiki
- updated Suns pool link
- increased font size of pool links

Earn Coins
- removed old faucet link
- removed gospel links
- removed orphan letter writing
- added southxchange faucet
- added healing campaign

Exchanges
- updated graviex logo
- updated tokok link

Specifications
- added Emission Schedule 2020
- added Economic Changes Dec 2019

Block Reward
- updated

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December 28, 2019, 07:09:40 PM
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Updated Bitcointalk ANN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067231.msg47788843#msg47788843


Any and all feedback welcome!

Nice.... What about to mention Dashpay?

And @MIP, great work on mobile wallet... Thanks
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December 28, 2019, 09:50:47 PM
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Updated Bitcointalk ANN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067231.msg47788843#msg47788843

Any and all feedback welcome!

Nice.... What about to mention Dashpay?

Good suggestion, added it in, Thanks!

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December 28, 2019, 10:04:13 PM
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I'm not trying to cause friction but legitimately asking. Is our focus on PoDC now moved away from cancer research? Out of WCG's remaining six sub projects, only two are cancer focused. One hasn't had work for months. Should we fairly say the focus has shifted to a general humanitarian goals instead? I want to say the stats exports let you track by a sub project level and so could be tied to those if desired. However I don't know if that is also on a user level or just team level.

Just so others are aware, one sub project (only one with Android work) hasn't had work in months with no ETA in sight. Two sub projects with small quantities to go around. Fah2 has work but mip and mcm seem to have the largest amount available at any given time. Also for those unaware, mip is very heavy on L3 cache. Rule of thumb is run no more than one mip work unit per 4mb cache that your CPU has or your performance will suffer a good deal.
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I'm not trying to cause friction but legitimately asking. Is our focus on PoDC now moved away from cancer research? Out of WCG's remaining six sub projects, only two are cancer focused. One hasn't had work for months. Should we fairly say the focus has shifted to a general humanitarian goals instead? I want to say the stats exports let you track by a sub project level and so could be tied to those if desired. However I don't know if that is also on a user level or just team level.

Just so others are aware, one sub project (only one with Android work) hasn't had work in months with no ETA in sight. Two sub projects with small quantities to go around. Fah2 has work but mip and mcm seem to have the largest amount available at any given time. Also for those unaware, mip is very heavy on L3 cache. Rule of thumb is run no more than one mip work unit per 4mb cache that your CPU has or your performance will suffer a good deal.

https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-whitelist-grc-podc.html

yes two cancer projects .. one of those cancer projects has a kid focus  the other project is Africa rainfall project which is good for Africa food security and for families that depends on farming for sustenance.

maybe universe@home can be supported too?! Smiley

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December 29, 2019, 01:42:17 AM
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World Community Grid:

Active Research
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do

Completed Projects
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do?proj=comp

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Active:

Africa Rainfall Project
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/arp1/overview.do

Microbiome Immunity Project
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/mip1/overview.do

Smash Childhoold Cancer
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/scc1/overview.do

Help Stop TB (Tuberculosis)
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/hst1/overview.do

FightAids@Home - Phase 2
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/fahb/overview.do

Mapping Cancer Markers
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/mcm1/overview.do

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Website: "World Community Grid is a simple way to support cutting-edge research into important global humanitarian causes."

Wiki: "World Community Grid is an effort to create the world's largest public computing grid to tackle scientific research projects that benefit humanity"

Twitter: "An IBM Corporate Social Responsibility initiative supporting humanitarian scientific research."

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Interesting, hadnt dug into it yet, I just clicked to add all the projects when I set up PODC

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December 29, 2019, 03:59:48 AM
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Yesterday running exec rac got me:


{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "CPK": "BSzYoSHeQGwAGseo12gq67KdL56AhVSoEV",
  "next_podc_gsc_transmission": 166357,
  "team_name": "Unknown",
  "external_purse_total_coin_age": 1789.596875000001,
  "coin_age_percent_required": 0.99,
  "NOTE!": "Coins must have a maturity of at least 5 confirms for your coin*age to count.  (See current depth in coin control).",
  "WARNING!": "BiblePay requires staking collateral to be stored in your Christian-Public-Key (External Purse) to be available for GSC transmissions.  You currently do not have enough coin age in your external purse.  This means your PODC reward will be reduced to a commensurate amount of RAC.  Please read our PODC 2.0 guide about sending bankroll notes to yourself.  ",
  "coin_age_required": 37331261.2988052,
  "wcg_id": 338542,
  "rac": 54018.86
}


21:53:52


However today when I run it I get:
exec rac


21:53:52

{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "temporary_cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "Error": "Your CPID is linked to your CPK, but we are unable to find your research records in WCG; most likely because you are not in team BiblePay yet.",
  "Step 1": "Log into your WCG account at 'worldcommunitygrid.org' with your WCG E-mail address and WCG password.",
  "Step 2": "Click Settings | My Profile.  Record your 'Username' and 'Verification Code' and your 'CPID' (Cross-Project-ID).",
  "Step 3": "Click Settings | Data Sharing.  Ensure the 'Display my Data' radio button is selected.  Click Save. ",
  "Step 4": "Click My Contribution | My Team.  If you are not part of Team 'BiblePay' click Join Team | Search | BiblePay | Select BiblePay | Click Join Team | Save.",
  "Step 5": "NOTE: After choosing your team, and starting your research, please give WCG 24 hours for the CPID to propagate into BBP.  In the mean time you can start Boinc research - and ensure the computer is performing WCG tasks. ",
  "Step 6": "From our RPC console, type, exec associate your_username your_verification_code",
  "Step 7": "Wait for 5 blocks to pass.  Then type 'exec rac' again, and see if you are linked!  ",
  "Step 8": "Once you are linked you will receive daily rewards.  Please read about our minimum stake requirements per RAC here: wiki.biblepay.org/PODC"
}


I am not on team BiblePay. According to the documentation I do not have to be. Is this accurate or is it limited to team BiblePay and Gridcoin?

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PART C: Join Team BiblePay
NOTE: You do not need to join Team BiblePay to get rewards, but there is a large benefit to doing so

1. Login to World Community Grid website and Click "Team BiblePay" link below

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=JRD1XTFK92

2. Click "Join Team"
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup

I can see that I have now sent out 3 GSC transmissions in the wallet but have not received any payouts for contributions to WCG. Before asking, I have contributed to WCG non-stop for 12 years. My RAC is fully established by now. I am aware that coin age may be a factor, but wasn't sure if that is the case since the reply mentioned not being part of the team. I will also add that I do allow stats exporting.
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December 29, 2019, 06:02:24 AM
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OMG you need to stake 37 millions bbp to get your reward !?
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Coin age is not the same as BiblePay total. So 1 BBP in your wallet untouched for 3 days is 3 days worth of coin age. At least that is how I understand it. And yes this is an issue for DC'ers and requiring such an up front amount to get started. I am not a large DC'er and I don't have the amount needed as I only have a little over 100k BBP total to work with.
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December 29, 2019, 10:22:37 AM
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Coin age is not the same as BiblePay total. So 1 BBP in your wallet untouched for 3 days is 3 days worth of coin age. At least that is how I understand it. And yes this is an issue for DC'ers and requiring such an up front amount to get started. I am not a large DC'er and I don't have the amount needed as I only have a little over 100k BBP total to work with.

Hi there!

I believe you need to pass the minimum stake to go into the leaderboard, regardless of the team. It was something like 5% ? Assuming it is 5%, you would need 1.8M BBP or so in the CPK address.
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December 29, 2019, 02:55:50 PM
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Coin age is not the same as BiblePay total. So 1 BBP in your wallet untouched for 3 days is 3 days worth of coin age. At least that is how I understand it. And yes this is an issue for DC'ers and requiring such an up front amount to get started. I am not a large DC'er and I don't have the amount needed as I only have a little over 100k BBP total to work with.

Hi there!

I believe you need to pass the minimum stake to go into the leaderboard, regardless of the team. It was something like 5% ? Assuming it is 5%, you would need 1.8M BBP or so in the CPK address.

Well, we do actually reverse engineer the researchers RAC down to a commensurate level of RAC if they dont have enough BBP. 

So if they have 100,000 bbp on hand, and lets say that amount allows a level of '9000 rac' on team biblepay, but he has 150,000 rac, the leaderboard will reverse his RAC down to 9000 and he will still get a reward.

There is an issue where if payments are lower than something like .10 bbp they will not enter the leaderboard due to rounding issues etc.

Note all:  Its a lot cheaper to participate if you are in Team BBP rather that not in team bbp.


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December 29, 2019, 03:10:31 PM
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Yesterday running exec rac got me:


{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "CPK": "BSzYoSHeQGwAGseo12gq67KdL56AhVSoEV",
  "next_podc_gsc_transmission": 166357,
  "team_name": "Unknown",
  "external_purse_total_coin_age": 1789.596875000001,
  "coin_age_percent_required": 0.99,
  "NOTE!": "Coins must have a maturity of at least 5 confirms for your coin*age to count.  (See current depth in coin control).",
  "WARNING!": "BiblePay requires staking collateral to be stored in your Christian-Public-Key (External Purse) to be available for GSC transmissions.  You currently do not have enough coin age in your external purse.  This means your PODC reward will be reduced to a commensurate amount of RAC.  Please read our PODC 2.0 guide about sending bankroll notes to yourself.  ",
  "coin_age_required": 37331261.2988052,
  "wcg_id": 338542,
  "rac": 54018.86
}


21:53:52


However today when I run it I get:
exec rac


21:53:52

{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "temporary_cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "Error": "Your CPID is linked to your CPK, but we are unable to find your research records in WCG; most likely because you are not in team BiblePay yet.",
  "Step 1": "Log into your WCG account at 'worldcommunitygrid.org' with your WCG E-mail address and WCG password.",
  "Step 2": "Click Settings | My Profile.  Record your 'Username' and 'Verification Code' and your 'CPID' (Cross-Project-ID).",
  "Step 3": "Click Settings | Data Sharing.  Ensure the 'Display my Data' radio button is selected.  Click Save. ",
  "Step 4": "Click My Contribution | My Team.  If you are not part of Team 'BiblePay' click Join Team | Search | BiblePay | Select BiblePay | Click Join Team | Save.",
  "Step 5": "NOTE: After choosing your team, and starting your research, please give WCG 24 hours for the CPID to propagate into BBP.  In the mean time you can start Boinc research - and ensure the computer is performing WCG tasks. ",
  "Step 6": "From our RPC console, type, exec associate your_username your_verification_code",
  "Step 7": "Wait for 5 blocks to pass.  Then type 'exec rac' again, and see if you are linked!  ",
  "Step 8": "Once you are linked you will receive daily rewards.  Please read about our minimum stake requirements per RAC here: wiki.biblepay.org/PODC"
}


I am not on team BiblePay. According to the documentation I do not have to be. Is this accurate or is it limited to team BiblePay and Gridcoin?

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PART C: Join Team BiblePay
NOTE: You do not need to join Team BiblePay to get rewards, but there is a large benefit to doing so

1. Login to World Community Grid website and Click "Team BiblePay" link below

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=JRD1XTFK92

2. Click "Join Team"
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup

I can see that I have now sent out 3 GSC transmissions in the wallet but have not received any payouts for contributions to WCG. Before asking, I have contributed to WCG non-stop for 12 years. My RAC is fully established by now. I am aware that coin age may be a factor, but wasn't sure if that is the case since the reply mentioned not being part of the team. I will also add that I do allow stats exporting.


1) Strictly on the part about the 'exec rac' switching from the 37Mil requirement over to 'not being linked', that is a bug in this first version, but note, its not the kind of bug affecting PODC or payments (its a client glitch on the display purposes only).  You can get around it by rebooting the client or waiting four hours (then exec rac will work again).  Im trying to get that fixed as a leisure asap. 


2)  So Im looking at your coinage reqs.  Since you arent on team bbp, thats why the req is so high (37 mil).  Yes, we are supposed to put you in the leaderboard with a commensurate low reward, but I see we have a minimum threshhold (I honestly dont remember doing that, but for now we have it because its the consensus for the sancs).  So here is how the two step phase works:  On Non-Team BBP, we check your req, and 54000 rac reqs 37Mil in coin-age.  Then we reduce your minimum RAC req (after we see you didnt make it), to 4368 RAC.  Then we see if you have a coin age of 667,501 BBP (but you didnt meet that), so that explains why you are not in the leaderboard.  Note, that if you send out a GSC, you will show up in the leaderboard in about 5-7 blocks, as long as you satisfy the req.  So if possible, if you join team BBP, what would happen is the req would drop to 53.9K for 4368 (after missing the first) and you would be in the leaderboard.  This also explains why you have not received podc rewards (you must be in the leaderboard to get podc rewards).



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December 29, 2019, 03:31:28 PM
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Finally my WCG account is linked with my wallet.
RAC 657 ... So I need 4500bbp to get my reward ...
To be under 250 we need to run WCG on a pentium III ?

Sort of ...  To be unbanked, you can throttle boinc so it hardly does work - and let the rac drop. 
But on a more serious note we have some mobile unbanked users and they tend to gravitate under 300 rac.
The idea back then was to allow them to earn enough to buy a loaf of bread through cancer mining etc (on a mobile).


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December 29, 2019, 03:51:13 PM
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Yesterday running exec rac got me:


{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "CPK": "BSzYoSHeQGwAGseo12gq67KdL56AhVSoEV",
  "next_podc_gsc_transmission": 166357,
  "team_name": "Unknown",
  "external_purse_total_coin_age": 1789.596875000001,
  "coin_age_percent_required": 0.99,
  "NOTE!": "Coins must have a maturity of at least 5 confirms for your coin*age to count.  (See current depth in coin control).",
  "WARNING!": "BiblePay requires staking collateral to be stored in your Christian-Public-Key (External Purse) to be available for GSC transmissions.  You currently do not have enough coin age in your external purse.  This means your PODC reward will be reduced to a commensurate amount of RAC.  Please read our PODC 2.0 guide about sending bankroll notes to yourself.  ",
  "coin_age_required": 37331261.2988052,
  "wcg_id": 338542,
  "rac": 54018.86
}


21:53:52


However today when I run it I get:
exec rac


21:53:52

{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "temporary_cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "Error": "Your CPID is linked to your CPK, but we are unable to find your research records in WCG; most likely because you are not in team BiblePay yet.",
  "Step 1": "Log into your WCG account at 'worldcommunitygrid.org' with your WCG E-mail address and WCG password.",
  "Step 2": "Click Settings | My Profile.  Record your 'Username' and 'Verification Code' and your 'CPID' (Cross-Project-ID).",
  "Step 3": "Click Settings | Data Sharing.  Ensure the 'Display my Data' radio button is selected.  Click Save. ",
  "Step 4": "Click My Contribution | My Team.  If you are not part of Team 'BiblePay' click Join Team | Search | BiblePay | Select BiblePay | Click Join Team | Save.",
  "Step 5": "NOTE: After choosing your team, and starting your research, please give WCG 24 hours for the CPID to propagate into BBP.  In the mean time you can start Boinc research - and ensure the computer is performing WCG tasks. ",
  "Step 6": "From our RPC console, type, exec associate your_username your_verification_code",
  "Step 7": "Wait for 5 blocks to pass.  Then type 'exec rac' again, and see if you are linked!  ",
  "Step 8": "Once you are linked you will receive daily rewards.  Please read about our minimum stake requirements per RAC here: wiki.biblepay.org/PODC"
}


I am not on team BiblePay. According to the documentation I do not have to be. Is this accurate or is it limited to team BiblePay and Gridcoin?

Quote
PART C: Join Team BiblePay
NOTE: You do not need to join Team BiblePay to get rewards, but there is a large benefit to doing so

1. Login to World Community Grid website and Click "Team BiblePay" link below

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=JRD1XTFK92

2. Click "Join Team"
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup

I can see that I have now sent out 3 GSC transmissions in the wallet but have not received any payouts for contributions to WCG. Before asking, I have contributed to WCG non-stop for 12 years. My RAC is fully established by now. I am aware that coin age may be a factor, but wasn't sure if that is the case since the reply mentioned not being part of the team. I will also add that I do allow stats exporting.


1) Strictly on the part about the 'exec rac' switching from the 37Mil requirement over to 'not being linked', that is a bug in this first version, but note, its not the kind of bug affecting PODC or payments (its a client glitch on the display purposes only).  You can get around it by rebooting the client or waiting four hours (then exec rac will work again).  Im trying to get that fixed as a leisure asap. 


2)  So Im looking at your coinage reqs.  Since you arent on team bbp, thats why the req is so high (37 mil).  Yes, we are supposed to put you in the leaderboard with a commensurate low reward, but I see we have a minimum threshhold (I honestly dont remember doing that, but for now we have it because its the consensus for the sancs).  So here is how the two step phase works:  On Non-Team BBP, we check your req, and 54000 rac reqs 37Mil in coin-age.  Then we reduce your minimum RAC req (after we see you didnt make it), to 4368 RAC.  Then we see if you have a coin age of 667,501 BBP (but you didnt meet that), so that explains why you are not in the leaderboard.  Note, that if you send out a GSC, you will show up in the leaderboard in about 5-7 blocks, as long as you satisfy the req.  So if possible, if you join team BBP, what would happen is the req would drop to 53.9K for 4368 (after missing the first) and you would be in the leaderboard.  This also explains why you have not received podc rewards (you must be in the leaderboard to get podc rewards).




OK, so since I won't switch teams (as I am a team captain) then my only option is to set up an Exchange account and purchase more Biblepay to meet the minimum requirements which isn't going to happen either. I don't trust the current exchanges. So, I guess what I need to know now is how to turn off PoDC so that I'm not wasting my BBP with GSC transmissions that won't ever pan out a return. I also see this as an issue that will most likely occur with many BOINC contributors that may be tempted to create wallets. It should also be explained better in the wiki as this seems to be a "dead zone" of sorts.

Also, since there is no Android (or mobile) work to crunch at WCG right now (for a few months now actually) and no ETA on when it will return (scientists have not said when SCC will have work again and WCG has no official plans for Android work on the other sub projects) then isn't it a moot point right now to have a low RAC stipulation for unbanked? Maybe a note needs added to the wiki for this as well.
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December 29, 2019, 05:43:44 PM
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Yesterday running exec rac got me:


{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "CPK": "BSzYoSHeQGwAGseo12gq67KdL56AhVSoEV",
  "next_podc_gsc_transmission": 166357,
  "team_name": "Unknown",
  "external_purse_total_coin_age": 1789.596875000001,
  "coin_age_percent_required": 0.99,
  "NOTE!": "Coins must have a maturity of at least 5 confirms for your coin*age to count.  (See current depth in coin control).",
  "WARNING!": "BiblePay requires staking collateral to be stored in your Christian-Public-Key (External Purse) to be available for GSC transmissions.  You currently do not have enough coin age in your external purse.  This means your PODC reward will be reduced to a commensurate amount of RAC.  Please read our PODC 2.0 guide about sending bankroll notes to yourself.  ",
  "coin_age_required": 37331261.2988052,
  "wcg_id": 338542,
  "rac": 54018.86
}


21:53:52


However today when I run it I get:
exec rac


21:53:52

{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "temporary_cpid": "1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2",
  "Error": "Your CPID is linked to your CPK, but we are unable to find your research records in WCG; most likely because you are not in team BiblePay yet.",
  "Step 1": "Log into your WCG account at 'worldcommunitygrid.org' with your WCG E-mail address and WCG password.",
  "Step 2": "Click Settings | My Profile.  Record your 'Username' and 'Verification Code' and your 'CPID' (Cross-Project-ID).",
  "Step 3": "Click Settings | Data Sharing.  Ensure the 'Display my Data' radio button is selected.  Click Save. ",
  "Step 4": "Click My Contribution | My Team.  If you are not part of Team 'BiblePay' click Join Team | Search | BiblePay | Select BiblePay | Click Join Team | Save.",
  "Step 5": "NOTE: After choosing your team, and starting your research, please give WCG 24 hours for the CPID to propagate into BBP.  In the mean time you can start Boinc research - and ensure the computer is performing WCG tasks. ",
  "Step 6": "From our RPC console, type, exec associate your_username your_verification_code",
  "Step 7": "Wait for 5 blocks to pass.  Then type 'exec rac' again, and see if you are linked!  ",
  "Step 8": "Once you are linked you will receive daily rewards.  Please read about our minimum stake requirements per RAC here: wiki.biblepay.org/PODC"
}


I am not on team BiblePay. According to the documentation I do not have to be. Is this accurate or is it limited to team BiblePay and Gridcoin?

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PART C: Join Team BiblePay
NOTE: You do not need to join Team BiblePay to get rewards, but there is a large benefit to doing so

1. Login to World Community Grid website and Click "Team BiblePay" link below

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=JRD1XTFK92

2. Click "Join Team"
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup

I can see that I have now sent out 3 GSC transmissions in the wallet but have not received any payouts for contributions to WCG. Before asking, I have contributed to WCG non-stop for 12 years. My RAC is fully established by now. I am aware that coin age may be a factor, but wasn't sure if that is the case since the reply mentioned not being part of the team. I will also add that I do allow stats exporting.


1) Strictly on the part about the 'exec rac' switching from the 37Mil requirement over to 'not being linked', that is a bug in this first version, but note, its not the kind of bug affecting PODC or payments (its a client glitch on the display purposes only).  You can get around it by rebooting the client or waiting four hours (then exec rac will work again).  Im trying to get that fixed as a leisure asap. 


2)  So Im looking at your coinage reqs.  Since you arent on team bbp, thats why the req is so high (37 mil).  Yes, we are supposed to put you in the leaderboard with a commensurate low reward, but I see we have a minimum threshhold (I honestly dont remember doing that, but for now we have it because its the consensus for the sancs).  So here is how the two step phase works:  On Non-Team BBP, we check your req, and 54000 rac reqs 37Mil in coin-age.  Then we reduce your minimum RAC req (after we see you didnt make it), to 4368 RAC.  Then we see if you have a coin age of 667,501 BBP (but you didnt meet that), so that explains why you are not in the leaderboard.  Note, that if you send out a GSC, you will show up in the leaderboard in about 5-7 blocks, as long as you satisfy the req.  So if possible, if you join team BBP, what would happen is the req would drop to 53.9K for 4368 (after missing the first) and you would be in the leaderboard.  This also explains why you have not received podc rewards (you must be in the leaderboard to get podc rewards).




OK, so since I won't switch teams (as I am a team captain) then my only option is to set up an Exchange account and purchase more Biblepay to meet the minimum requirements which isn't going to happen either. I don't trust the current exchanges. So, I guess what I need to know now is how to turn off PoDC so that I'm not wasting my BBP with GSC transmissions that won't ever pan out a return. I also see this as an issue that will most likely occur with many BOINC contributors that may be tempted to create wallets. It should also be explained better in the wiki as this seems to be a "dead zone" of sorts.

Also, since there is no Android (or mobile) work to crunch at WCG right now (for a few months now actually) and no ETA on when it will return (scientists have not said when SCC will have work again and WCG has no official plans for Android work on the other sub projects) then isn't it a moot point right now to have a low RAC stipulation for unbanked? Maybe a note needs added to the wiki for this as well.

Oh, I see an opportunity here when you mention exchanges and trust. (I find myself in the same spot usually)
Rob has in his ideas bucket the potential of using BBP for cross-chain trading - Why don't we make it possible so people can acquire BBP without the need for exchanges? A blockchain-based escrow or a conversion bot, perhaps?
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December 29, 2019, 05:57:03 PM
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It seems SouthXchange added a 9th decimal to all its BTC markets.

So we can now trade BBP with a finer grain spread.
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The original guide explains coin*age
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC

The guide I've been working on doesn't, just added it in, please review
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup#PART_H:_Calculate_Staking

I dont think it really changes the calculation since PODC is a daily thing and you need that many coins aged 1 day,
But it does affect starting out, because you have to wait a whole day for newly acquired/boughten coins to age to get the full reward

I believe the reasoning behind coin*age is to combat staking abuse (Using the same coins for multiple stakes, for example, in the past, 2 or 3 of us could get together and pass 1 million BBP around in a circle every day and each of us could use those same coins for our staking requirement, not saying I did this, just showing as an example)

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December 30, 2019, 03:35:37 AM
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Dear ROB / BBP team,

I joined the PODC 2.0 over 2 Days and the RAC and coinage is no any problem.
I checked over 2days no reward. Please help to check. thanks.

https://imgur.com/SS5fIhb

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Welcome new BiblePay team members:

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