⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡

[Vy Low]

honestly if you guys dont believe in tokenpay just move on and dont buy any tpay, regret always comes in the end

[Ipwich]

honestly if you guys dont believe in tokenpay just move on and dont buy any tpay, regret always comes in the end

LOL!, we are talking about the bounty and most of us here will rather choose to sell than to buy to enjoy their earnings.
But it seems like the chance get paid is really dim, so let's not expect the compensation will come.

[JollyGood]

honestly if you guys dont believe in tokenpay just move on and dont buy any tpay, regret always comes in the end

LOL!, we are talking about the bounty and most of us here will rather choose to sell than to buy to enjoy their earnings.
But it seems like the chance get paid is really dim, so let's not expect the compensation will come.

jamalaezaz the bounty manager is the one to blame for all this, he cannot be bothered to even post here.

[Dimosscolorist]

honestly if you guys dont believe in tokenpay just move on and dont buy any tpay, regret always comes in the end

LOL!, we are talking about the bounty and most of us here will rather choose to sell than to buy to enjoy their earnings.
But it seems like the chance get paid is really dim, so let's not expect the compensation will come.

jamalaezaz the bounty manager is the one to blame for all this, he cannot be bothered to even post here.

Maybe it is so. But this knowledge does not help the hunters get what they deserve. Even if this is so, then the realization of this will give hunters a reason, more not to cooperate with this manager.

[Hunnykaushal31]

Forget about Tokenpay bounty tokens and concentrate on new bounties. 

[JollyGood]

honestly if you guys dont believe in tokenpay just move on and dont buy any tpay, regret always comes in the end

LOL!, we are talking about the bounty and most of us here will rather choose to sell than to buy to enjoy their earnings.
But it seems like the chance get paid is really dim, so let's not expect the compensation will come.

jamalaezaz the bounty manager is the one to blame for all this, he cannot be bothered to even post here.

Maybe it is so. But this knowledge does not help the hunters get what they deserve. Even if this is so, then the realization of this will give hunters a reason, more not to cooperate with this manager.

No bounty participant is co-operating with the bounty manager jamalaezaz and to be honest just look at the way he has dealt with this situation.

He will probably never get hired again for any project except those that want to scam like Tokenpay did.

[Japinat]

What a Trainwreck, this is why you have to be so careful when it comes to shitcoins and especially when they're asking you for money.

No one would give money just to claim their bounty, they would think that it's gonna be a double loss.

A project can scam anytime they want but it's their reputation is at stake here.
Tokenpay was not really a scam way back, people are optimistic that it will grow, they have collected the hard cap if I'm not mistaken and they have good trading volume, until the time they deny paying bounty, it hurts their supporters and they also hurt their reputation.

Based on their exchanges now, I don't believe they really have a $500 dollars daily volume.
I'm still thinking on the article I read last time that some exchanges are just faking their volume, the only reputable IMO is Binance.

[scolary23]

What a Trainwreck, this is why you have to be so careful when it comes to shitcoins and especially when they're asking you for money.

No one would give money just to claim their bounty, they would think that it's gonna be a double loss.

Yes it is, no one wants to give money for this.
Obviously, this is the result, a series of mistakes that the manager made. I am sure that he will not repeat it if he continues his activities.
However, this does not change the current situation of affairs. And the question for hunters of this company remains open.

[JollyGood]

What a Trainwreck, this is why you have to be so careful when it comes to shitcoins and especially when they're asking you for money.

Well the moral of the story is to stay away from a bounty manager that does not care. The conduct of jamalaezaz is highly questionable too because he did not even try to defend bounty participants.

[--DarkSecrets--]

What a Trainwreck, this is why you have to be so careful when it comes to shitcoins and especially when they're asking you for money.

Well the moral of the story is to stay away from a bounty manager that does not care. The conduct of jamalaezaz is highly questionable too because he did not even try to defend bounty participants.

I don't think so because you can see how he fight for this scammer team. At the end of the day they accused the bounty manager and make some many reasons why they didn't pay the bounty pointing to the manager. It's been a year now forget this. There's no way to blame either the team or the manager. This is the risk of joining in a bounty much more if you are an investor if the team runs away.

[Ohgreatanotherone]

What a Trainwreck, this is why you have to be so careful when it comes to shitcoins and especially when they're asking you for money.

Well the moral of the story is to stay away from a bounty manager that does not care. The conduct of jamalaezaz is highly questionable too because he did not even try to defend bounty participants.

Don't know which is worst: Doesn't care, Doesn't listen, or Doesn't have the time to.
One thing is for sure though, picking bounty managers that do know how to "communicate" - doesn't matter what you native language is or if you can't learn Chinese, Russian, Italy, English, and French in order to satisfy the global client base. However, any BM worth their salt should not only be able to understand the nature of feedback and response, but also ensure that their reputation is never put through the wringer by having a signed contract to go with every deal.
And oh, reading the contract's expectations and requirements THOROUGHLY

[JollyGood]

Well the moral of the story is to stay away from a bounty manager that does not care. The conduct of jamalaezaz is highly questionable too because he did not even try to defend bounty participants.

Don't know which is worst: Doesn't care, Doesn't listen, or Doesn't have the time to.
One thing is for sure though, picking bounty managers that do know how to "communicate" - doesn't matter what you native language is or if you can't learn Chinese, Russian, Italy, English, and French in order to satisfy the global client base. However, any BM worth their salt should not only be able to understand the nature of feedback and response, but also ensure that their reputation is never put through the wringer by having a signed contract to go with every deal.
And oh, reading the contract's expectations and requirements THOROUGHLY

You are right in pointing out and asking about which bounty manager is worse. In the case of this bounty manager jamalaezaz he does not seem to interested anymore. He hides behind the shield of saying that he needs 3 BTC to pay a US based lawyer to start legal action. He did not take the well thought out advice that he was given by myself and others regarding finding a lawyer on a no-win-no-fee basis.

Clearly Tokenpay scammed the bounty participants and very cleverly blamed jamalaezaz but jamalaezaz was the one that could have helped protect the interests of bounty participants before his own ego.

When jamalaezaz posted that he was no longer the going to be involved in Monaco bounty he immediately removed his post and sent a PM asking me to remove my post which I refused to do and still can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1924985.msg20130228#msg20130228

It shows jamalaezaz actively went out to post against Monaco and they came to a fast arrangement to avoid negative publicity during the ICO and the key thing is Monaco paid jamalaezaz as there was no complaints later but in the case of Tokenpay they never backed down and instead switched tables and change their stance from partially blaming jamalaezaz to fully blaming hima nd accusing him of fraud..

I saw the skype screenshots and looked at the situation as best as I could with all information available and can conclude jamalaezaz is highly culpable in this debacle. Simply saying "Tokenpay scammed the bounty participants" is an oversimplification.

If a bounty manager cannot articulate himself in all manner and all times including when being accused of fraud then they should stop and return back to their real-world job because they are making a mockery of people participating in the bounties.

[Dimosscolorist]

This topic was stretched to 80 pages, but did not bring anything to the participants of this company bounty. During this time, I have already calmed down and accepted this sad reality.
In my opinion, unfortunately, there is no longer any sense to continue this discussion.
All we could do here is just to create a vibration in the air with our words.

[Vaculin]

This topic was stretched to 80 pages, but did not bring anything to the participants of this company bounty. During this time, I have already calmed down and accepted this sad reality.
In my opinion, unfortunately, there is no longer any sense to continue this discussion.
All we could do here is just to create a vibration in the air with our words.

Good for you that you have move on already, but some of us are still not moving on because we want our effort to be paid.
I don't know if the manager of the bounty are still active in finding ways to pay their participants, but I hope the team one day will change their mind.

[JollyGood]

This topic was stretched to 80 pages, but did not bring anything to the participants of this company bounty. During this time, I have already calmed down and accepted this sad reality.
In my opinion, unfortunately, there is no longer any sense to continue this discussion.
All we could do here is just to create a vibration in the air with our words.

Good for you that you have move on already, but some of us are still not moving on because we want our effort to be paid.
I don't know if the manager of the bounty are still active in finding ways to pay their participants, but I hope the team one day will change their mind.

@Vaculin

Thank you for the post

Very well said. If people have moved on and are happy or content for them to be scammed of their tokens then that is for them.

As for those that wish to pursue any avenue of that might lead to any chance of getting any of their due back, then that is some thing for them. I still put the most of the blame for this debacle directly at the bounty manager jamalaezaz because he has not been competent when dealing with TokenPay or when trying to find a legal solution to this matter.

[ju34400]

guys, move on it's over, we will never receive our bounty
jamal scammed them by cheating with fake accounts and they used it for refuse to pay everybody

its just a scammer who tried to scam others scammers

[jamalaezaz]

guys, move on it's over, we will never receive our bounty
jamal scammed them by cheating with fake accounts and they used it for refuse to pay everybody

its just a scammer who tried to scam others scammers

prove those fake accounts man.. do you have evidence?
this is just their excuse to look innocent and put all blame on me of their scam.

[Dimosscolorist]

This topic was stretched to 80 pages, but did not bring anything to the participants of this company bounty. During this time, I have already calmed down and accepted this sad reality.
In my opinion, unfortunately, there is no longer any sense to continue this discussion.
All we could do here is just to create a vibration in the air with our words.

Good for you that you have move on already, but some of us are still not moving on because we want our effort to be paid.
I don't know if the manager of the bounty are still active in finding ways to pay their participants, but I hope the team one day will change their mind.

@Vaculin

Thank you for the post

Very well said. If people have moved on and are happy or content for them to be scammed of their tokens then that is for them.

As for those that wish to pursue any avenue of that might lead to any chance of getting any of their due back, then that is some thing for them. I still put the most of the blame for this debacle directly at the bounty manager jamalaezaz because he has not been competent when dealing with TokenPay or when trying to find a legal solution to this matter.

I am not happy and not content with the fact that I was not paid for my time. I just doubt that it will change anything here.
Yes jamalaezaz made mistakes. But did you see what the team of the TOKENPAY SCAM said? They charged the manager in using multi-accounts. This is the only reason why the hunters were left with nothing, and the SCAMERS team decided that this was enough. Moreover, without presenting a single proof! Just words.   
Is it possible, after this, to expect from these people something adequate?

[ju34400]

guys, move on it's over, we will never receive our bounty
jamal scammed them by cheating with fake accounts and they used it for refuse to pay everybody

its just a scammer who tried to scam others scammers

prove those fake accounts man.. do you have evidence?
this is just their excuse to look innocent and put all blame on me of their scam.

jamal, a good scammer need good memory, you dont have it
i already told you i saved the spreadsheet before you close it and already posted at least 2 times here and/or previous bounty thread

i post again http://myreader.toile-libre.org/tokenpaysheet1234567.pdf

you are a just a thief who gave a (fake) reason to others thief to scam honnest peoples

[JollyGood]

guys, move on it's over, we will never receive our bounty
jamal scammed them by cheating with fake accounts and they used it for refuse to pay everybody

its just a scammer who tried to scam others scammers

prove those fake accounts man.. do you have evidence?
this is just their excuse to look innocent and put all blame on me of their scam.

jamal, a good scammer need good memory, you dont have it
i already told you i saved the spreadsheet before you close it and already posted at least 2 times here and/or previous bounty thread

i post again http://myreader.toile-libre.org/tokenpaysheet1234567.pdf

you are a just a thief who gave a (fake) reason to others thief to scam honnest peoples

@ ju34400

You have very strong views on this subject and you have not held back in your views or your words. I understand your frustrations at bounty manager jamalaezaz.

The behaviour of bounty manager jamalaezaz (since Tokenpay CEO Derek Capo refused to pay the bounty) has been nothing short of shocking.

Sure Tokenpay and its CEO Derek Capo are to blame because they refused to pay the bounty BUT bounty manager jamalaezaz created an environment which allowed Tokenpay CEO Derek Capo the opportunity to refuse paying out. The skype chat log in the OP which was posted to shore up support for those that got scammed, instead shows utter incompetence on part of bounty manager jamalaezaz.