Assault weapon bans

[FirstAscent]

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime. Here's some advice: an essay, couched in fancy grammar, does not necessarily make an argument compelling except to your own choir. Within all the balderdash though, we see some truth:

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

[Rassah]

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime.

LANGUAGE FAIL!!

Not you, the language. Did you mean

You advocate deadlier crime?

or

You advocate higher frequency of deadly crime?

[Spendulus]

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime. Here's some advice: an essay, couched in fancy grammar, does not necessarily make an argument compelling except to your own choir. Within all the balderdash though, we see some truth:

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

[FirstAscent]

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime.

LANGUAGE FAIL!!

Not you, the language. Did you mean

You advocate deadlier crime?

or

You advocate higher frequency of deadly crime?

There is crime which is not deadly. And there is crime which is deadly. What's his face, and his adulating choir advocate more of the latter. Please, reserve your red letters and grammar checks for actual grammatical errors. But if that's the only argument that you have, then we have a definitive failure in rebuttal, do we not?

[NewLiberty]

When a crime is occurring, ought one resist?  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCtNW5yI7c

[TheButterZone]

No, just obey gun (and all other anti-self defense, pro-criminal utopia) laws and kiss your ass goodbye.

[mdude77]

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime. Here's some advice: an essay, couched in fancy grammar, does not necessarily make an argument compelling except to your own choir. Within all the balderdash though, we see some truth:

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

You are more likely to die by a car accident if you own and drive a car.  Using your logic, we should therefore ban cars.

Oh, and going outside is dangerous too.  You could fall and break your neck!  Better ban outside!!

Sitting still is bad for you too.  Better ban chairs.

Life is a calculated risk.  Get over it.

M

[Spendulus]

When a crime is occurring, ought one resist?  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCtNW5yI7c

"The vast majority of defensive gun uses don't even involve firing...they just threaten and the guy runs away....People do what you say when you threaten them with a deadly weapon."

What I said earlier.

But look here....GET REAL! You know, we all know, only Law Enforcement Officers are trained and capable of handling dangerous, deadly firearms.  Just watch this DEA agent instruct a class of young children! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU

LOL...Yeah, you've now laughed at someone shooting themself...

[FirstAscent]

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime. Here's some advice: an essay, couched in fancy grammar, does not necessarily make an argument compelling except to your own choir. Within all the balderdash though, we see some truth:

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

You are more likely to die by a car accident if you own and drive a car.  Using your logic, we should therefore ban cars.

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

[randomcloud]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

[Jaxkr]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

It's not a matter of caring, it's a matter of ethics. If you were trying to make your nation thrive, would you allow your citizens machines dedicated to killing?

[FirstAscent]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

How laughable. People do care that a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. For crying out loud. It boggles my mind that people try to base their whole support of guns on premises like this.

Also, people can be forced to abandon lifestyles that are unhealthy for the rest of us.

[foggyb]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

A gun's primary purpose is to fire a lead slug down-range. Guns don't have political agendas.

[FirstAscent]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

A gun's primary purpose is to fire a lead slug down-range. Guns don't have political agendas.

Sad. Sort of like an internal combustion engine's purpose is to exhaust fuel which it burns.

Desperate, are we?

[TheButterZone]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

A gun's primary purpose is to fire a lead slug down-range. Guns don't have political agendas.

Actually, the primary purpose of almost all guns is to stop crime without even having to be fired, as that is what all government statistics and non-debunked/retracted peer-reviewed research show happens most of the time. If FA wasn't a treacherous sociopath who will do and say anything to render innocents defenseless in order to enable our victimization with impunity, he'd admit that.

[foggyb]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

A gun's primary purpose is to fire a lead slug down-range. Guns don't have political agendas.

Sad. Sort of like an internal combustion engine's purpose is to exhaust fuel which it burns.

Desperate, are we?

Sort of like your primary purpose is to exhaust CO2.

[FirstAscent]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

A gun's primary purpose is to fire a lead slug down-range. Guns don't have political agendas.

Sad. Sort of like an internal combustion engine's purpose is to exhaust fuel which it burns.

Desperate, are we?

Sort of like your primary purpose is to exhaust CO2.

Whatever the case may be, at least it's now clear to you how your statement about a gun's purpose was ineffective and desperate. I wonder why you didn't realize it before you posted it though.

[Spendulus]

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

But no one CARES if a gun's primary purpose is to kill people. Don't you understand that? You can't just control other people and force them to abandon a lifestyle you disagree with because you think they are savages in need of your political enlightenment.

A gun's primary purpose is to fire a lead slug down-range. Guns don't have political agendas.

Actually, the primary purpose of almost all guns is to stop crime without even having to be fired, as that is what all government statistics and non-debunked/retracted peer-reviewed research show happens most of the time. If FA wasn't a treacherous sociopath who will do and say anything to render innocents defenseless in order to enable our victimization with impunity, he'd admit that.

Also, if he took away all our guns, what would we do if the zombies invaded?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGRp-lX_J0c

[mdude77]

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

And thus, we gather, you advocate more deadly crime. Here's some advice: an essay, couched in fancy grammar, does not necessarily make an argument compelling except to your own choir. Within all the balderdash though, we see some truth:

Crime is more deadly when it is perpetrated with more deadly weapons.

You are more likely to die by a car accident if you own and drive a car.  Using your logic, we should therefore ban cars.

You again. Pointless logic, which is par for the course for you. How many times does one have to say it? Cars have a purpose other than to take aim at someone and threaten and kill. It boggles me no end that these meme repeaters think they're being clever.

You continue to ignore the fact that guns are ALSO used to defend one's self, family, and possessions from unlawful aggressors, government or otherwise.  Therefore my example is the same as yours.  Cars have a lawful purpose, so do guns.  The difference is, you keep pretending one doesn't exist.

M

[mdude77]

I found the arguments here from Kleck to be rational and well levied, for what it's worth.  This work would be something that lends itself to reasonable discussion.  I also do not believe that defensive carry of firearms, or further legal or training requirements for public carry are anywhere close to the best approaches to reducing crime or violent crime; addressing the economic and cultural factors involved are far more important for an overall approach to crime reduction - this view is why I take the stance that referencing firearms in the context of crime is over-hyped and over-represented in most debate.

The part in bold is the point I try to make when I say the cause and core of the issue is immorality which stemless from Godlessness.  I am not preaching one faith, doctrine, or organized religion over another, I am simply stating Godliness.  God is good, regardless of the name you refer to him by.  If he is not good, you have a false god.

M