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November 10, 2018, 03:13:09 PM |
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''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe.
Prove that God has no cause. God, being outside the universe has cause, no cause, and absence of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness, and fullness of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness. You are simply selecting a infinitely limited view of something that falls into the singular yet infinite value of we-don't-know... at least by any means we have to evaluate God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Astargath
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November 10, 2018, 05:05:50 PM |
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''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe.
Prove that God has no cause. God, being outside the universe has cause, no cause, and absence of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness, and fullness of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness. You are simply selecting a infinitely limited view of something that falls into the singular yet infinite value of we-don't-know... at least by any means we have to evaluate God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So god has a cause? I thought you always said god has no cause because ''I'm the best and I know what's outside the universe and how it works''
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BADecker
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November 10, 2018, 05:56:35 PM |
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''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe.
Prove that God has no cause. God, being outside the universe has cause, no cause, and absence of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness, and fullness of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness. You are simply selecting a infinitely limited view of something that falls into the singular yet infinite value of we-don't-know... at least by any means we have to evaluate God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So god has a cause? I thought you always said god has no cause because ''I'm the best and I know what's outside the universe and how it works'' Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things outside the universe is unknown, scientifically. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Astargath
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November 11, 2018, 01:29:41 PM |
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''Causelessness falls into the category of scientifically impossible'' God has no cause, check mate atheists! There you go, I showed you something without a cause, hehehe.
Prove that God has no cause. God, being outside the universe has cause, no cause, and absence of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness, and fullness of anything either like cause or causelessness, or unlike cause or causelessness. You are simply selecting a infinitely limited view of something that falls into the singular yet infinite value of we-don't-know... at least by any means we have to evaluate God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So god has a cause? I thought you always said god has no cause because ''I'm the best and I know what's outside the universe and how it works'' Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things outside the universe is unknown, scientifically. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this?
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November 11, 2018, 02:04:13 PM |
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Because your parents in the country you come from pumped it in your brains and this is because your country told them too..
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November 11, 2018, 02:32:03 PM |
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Because your parents in the country you come from pumped it in your brains and this is because your country told them too..
Such might be a start for a person who believes in God. But if he continue to focus on it after he has grown grown to adult age, he is actually, mentally a child. What people should be doing is starting to look at the technology in nature. And they are. They are trying to duplicate some of it. Many people of science ARE duplicating a little of it. And you can ask them if it is easy. They will tell you about how difficult it is, and that if they didn't have the help of a lot of other like minded people, and financing from a bunch of financiers, they would have failed in their attempts to duplicate a little of nature, long ago. Where did the technology of nature come from? If it can't be duplicated easily with a lot of thought, why would anybody think that nature could make itself, without any thinking at all? There is only one answer... somebody who has the ability to think a lot better than people, and has a lot more power than people - even hydrogen bomb power is tiny when considering all the power locked into the material of the earth - and has a lot more ability than people, to be able to put this whole thing together. Why would anybody rather remain with the child-like understanding that God DOESN'T exist, because that's all their parents taught them? They have grown up. They have a chance to be an adult, and think on their own, and calculate for themselves, that nature is a mindbogglingly great piece of machinery, greater than can be found anywhere. Machines have makers. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 11, 2018, 02:37:08 PM |
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Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things-outside-the-universe is unknown, scientifically. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this? You fail to remember that things don't make themselves... at least not in our universe. So, whatever it is that is outside the universe, is what made the universe. One outside-the-universe. One God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Astargath
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November 12, 2018, 12:18:58 AM |
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Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things-outside-the-universe is unknown, scientifically. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this? You fail to remember that things don't make themselves... at least not in our universe. So, whatever it is that is outside the universe, is what made the universe. One outside-the-universe. One God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''One outside-the-universe. One God.'' Why one?
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November 12, 2018, 01:01:44 AM |
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Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things-outside-the-universe is unknown, scientifically. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this? You fail to remember that things don't make themselves... at least not in our universe. So, whatever it is that is outside the universe, is what made the universe. One outside-the-universe. One God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''One outside-the-universe. One God.'' Why one? Would you even understand if I printed it this way?... Outside-The-Universe? Only one Outside-The-Universe. And that's all we know about It/Him/God, or anything else that might be out there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 12, 2018, 01:31:22 PM |
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I have got just question here bud, Do you find the big bang theory a reasonable proof enough to explain the existence of living things and it's huge diversification ? I meant from a sand fly, single-celled organisms to we humans. Edit: things we cannot yet explain with science Yet ? how long before answers can be provided by science ? Or Simply cannot be explained with Science ? People believe in the unknown (aka God) because they are ignorant of the world. They refuse to study and learn how the world works. If you stay ignorant, anything can become supernatural. From tree bark to the shape of bee comb. Stones and stars will have supernatural meaning to you. Fire and Sun were worshiped for a long time. Now, the "before the Big Bang" is worshiped.
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November 12, 2018, 02:14:57 PM |
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I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God?
To believe in a god, you need to be gullible, and believe whatever crazy things people tell you. :/ This is the third time i read the term "GULLIBLE". It really interest me to learn this term. I do not know what this term implies until such time I do a research on google and now I know. It is better sometimezs to stick on English forum to learn more on english terms. I do believe in GOD. Science could not explain the existence of the universe the life of humans and its nature. Science can only discuss things that happen but somehow could not proven. All are theory and nothing less nothing more.
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Astargath
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November 12, 2018, 08:02:10 PM |
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Actually, I'm one of those who understands that understanding of things-outside-the-universe is unknown, scientifically. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''things outside the universe is unknown'' And yet you keep claiming god exists outside the universe even though scientifically you admit we don't know what's outside the universe? Are you honestly stupid enough to not see the failed logic in this? You fail to remember that things don't make themselves... at least not in our universe. So, whatever it is that is outside the universe, is what made the universe. One outside-the-universe. One God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''One outside-the-universe. One God.'' Why one? Would you even understand if I printed it this way?... Outside-The-Universe? Only one Outside-The-Universe. And that's all we know about It/Him/God, or anything else that might be out there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''Only one Outside-The-Universe.'' Only One universe, therefore only 1 planet? Or only 1 galaxy? Only 1 human? What does it mean to say only ''one'' outside the universe and how do you know there is only 1 god outside the universe? You don't make too much sense here.
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November 12, 2018, 10:56:55 PM |
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Would you even understand if I printed it this way?... Outside-The-Universe? Only one Outside-The-Universe. And that's all we know about It/Him/God, or anything else that might be out there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''Only one Outside-The-Universe.'' Only One universe, therefore only 1 planet? Or only 1 galaxy? Only 1 human? What does it mean to say only ''one'' outside the universe and how do you know there is only 1 god outside the universe? You don't make too much sense here. So, now you think there is one planet and one galaxy and one human outside the universe. Why? Well, how many outside-the-universe's do you think there are? As for God, it would take a God to create the universe. Since the only thing we know about outside the universe is that it is one - outside - there is one God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 12, 2018, 11:33:42 PM |
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Would you even understand if I printed it this way?... Outside-The-Universe? Only one Outside-The-Universe. And that's all we know about It/Him/God, or anything else that might be out there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''Only one Outside-The-Universe.'' Only One universe, therefore only 1 planet? Or only 1 galaxy? Only 1 human? What does it mean to say only ''one'' outside the universe and how do you know there is only 1 god outside the universe? You don't make too much sense here. So, now you think there is one planet and one galaxy and one human outside the universe. Why? Well, how many outside-the-universe's do you think there are? As for God, it would take a God to create the universe. Since the only thing we know about outside the universe is that it is one - outside - there is one God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''outside the universe is that it is one'' What does that mean, though? That's an illogical thing to say. One what, I have one bottle, but many things can fit inside it, just because it's one it doesn't mean inside it only one thing can exist just like ''outside the universe''. How do you know only one thing exists outside of our universe? That makes 0 sense. You are just making shit up, literally.
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November 13, 2018, 11:53:32 AM |
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Would you even understand if I printed it this way?... Outside-The-Universe? Only one Outside-The-Universe. And that's all we know about It/Him/God, or anything else that might be out there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''Only one Outside-The-Universe.'' Only One universe, therefore only 1 planet? Or only 1 galaxy? Only 1 human? What does it mean to say only ''one'' outside the universe and how do you know there is only 1 god outside the universe? You don't make too much sense here. So, now you think there is one planet and one galaxy and one human outside the universe. Why? Well, how many outside-the-universe's do you think there are? As for God, it would take a God to create the universe. Since the only thing we know about outside the universe is that it is one - outside - there is one God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ''outside the universe is that it is one'' What does that mean, though? That's an illogical thing to say. One what, I have one bottle, but many things can fit inside it, just because it's one it doesn't mean inside it only one thing can exist just like ''outside the universe''. How do you know only one thing exists outside of our universe? That makes 0 sense. You are just making shit up, literally.They all have to since they don't know. That is their modus operandi, i.e. make the shit up as they go along. The more fantastic and scary the story is the more suckers they can fleece. “Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.” - Mark Twain
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November 13, 2018, 02:11:48 PM |
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''outside the universe is that it is one'' What does that mean, though? That's an illogical thing to say. One what, I have one bottle, but many things can fit inside it, just because it's one it doesn't mean inside it only one thing can exist just like ''outside the universe''. How do you know only one thing exists outside of our universe? That makes 0 sense. You are just making shit up, literally.
The idea of making the word "outside" to be made up of several letters of the alphabet, is an idea of mankind. But it is still one word. When you try to confuse the idea of one outside by using all kinds of meaningless blabber, you are actually showing that you understand the truth, but simply are against the truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Astargath
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November 13, 2018, 03:00:25 PM |
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''outside the universe is that it is one'' What does that mean, though? That's an illogical thing to say. One what, I have one bottle, but many things can fit inside it, just because it's one it doesn't mean inside it only one thing can exist just like ''outside the universe''. How do you know only one thing exists outside of our universe? That makes 0 sense. You are just making shit up, literally.
The idea of making the word "outside" to be made up of several letters of the alphabet, is an idea of mankind. But it is still one word. When you try to confuse the idea of one outside by using all kinds of meaningless blabber, you are actually showing that you understand the truth, but simply are against the truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Right...... So how do you know there is only 1 god outside, again?
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November 13, 2018, 07:36:11 PM |
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''outside the universe is that it is one'' What does that mean, though? That's an illogical thing to say. One what, I have one bottle, but many things can fit inside it, just because it's one it doesn't mean inside it only one thing can exist just like ''outside the universe''. How do you know only one thing exists outside of our universe? That makes 0 sense. You are just making shit up, literally.
The idea of making the word "outside" to be made up of several letters of the alphabet, is an idea of mankind. But it is still one word. When you try to confuse the idea of one outside by using all kinds of meaningless blabber, you are actually showing that you understand the truth, but simply are against the truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Right...... So how do you know there is only 1 god outside, again? Well, get out there and figure out how to relate to outside-the-universe. As it is, God is outside the universe. Outside the universe is one. God is one. Easy logic. Easier than pie. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 13, 2018, 07:41:49 PM |
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Speaking of meaningless blabber....
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Bitcoin...the future of all monetary transactions...and always will be
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Astargath
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November 13, 2018, 07:58:50 PM Merited by sirazimuth (5) |
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Speaking of meaningless blabber....
Yeah..... Kind of hard to debate someone that is literally making shit up. You ask him how he knows there is only 1 god ''outside the universe'' and he says, the outside is one, therefore only 1 god. What can you do, nutjobs...
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