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April 22, 2018, 12:54:58 PM
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I didn't understand why people still creating panic situation into this thread even this has cleared on next day after that bad PR campaign. We must give another chance to dev team to deliver this otherwise nobody will get nothing. I have still believe in the future of this project and we must show our support.
I think they are shillers - they want to dump of the SVD. Don`t believe them. When they buy coins at a price below ICO, they will arrange a pamp on the good news.  
You just need to have strong hands and ignore the pessimists  Wink

tempus - one of them! Look at his profile. The legend is cool! Many people will believe him.
The last message in January. Then silence. He was never in the subject of SaveDroid  - he was not interested in anything and is not part of the community.
And then the boom - from April 19 he wrote 21 messages ONLY IN THIS TOPIC AND GERMAN Nowhere else he writes. This is a manipulator. Only a negative texts - a very long read!
It seems to me - he was paid. Or he himself tries to make a dump!
I see through you dude  Grin

Nice try Nice_Try! ;-)


But let me explain. I have nothing to hide:

1) Yes, I'm not invested. I didn't even know this project until I saw the desperation on twitter after the Savedroid-CEO had pushed out his "over and out - tweet".

2) I recognized they are germans. I'm also a german and probably that was the first trigger to pay attention

3) After reading a bit and thinking about that move, nothing made any sense to me. Especially that got me really interested, simply the question what this is about. My first conclusion was: Whatever it is or will turn out to be, in any case it's stupid and insane.

4) The next day their explanation-video... I just thought "what a stupid idiot, what an insane combination of pure arrogance and naivety." that has lead into such stupidity and ruthlessness, pretending an educational purpose while clearly they are the ones who should go back to school.  

5) It was a safe prediction that it would backfire hard and to see that was kind of entertaining but also embarrassing. Actually I was happy to see the hard media-echo in Germany. I talked with some of the german Investors on the german thread and got more information, figured that not even their story was true (would have been so easy to exit scam with all of the funds).

7) Even after the first hard feedback they didn't learn. They kept on with their arrogance (most of it on german threads), still pretending they could have executed a scam, pretending that they wanted to educate people about that, and even about the greed in the market. And yes, all of that made me really angry, even if not invested myself. They hyped their ICO to $50 mln, then put anybody else at risk including their own partners, while risking nothing of their own money that they only got because people trusted them. And they even want to educate others and even point on greed? Damn, that's bolt!

8 ) They pretend the intention to educate all others, but in fact they have acted deceptive. And while they also pretend they would have solved the situation with their explanation, they've just built another lie on the first deception. Whenever I see something like that I consider a high probability that the claimed intention is also not true or at least not the whole truth. Since they've even started a new website, saying "ICO Advisory coming soon - made in Germany" I believe their main-intention was promoting that.  

9) They are the ones who have turned what was meant to be business into a social experiment with educational purpose. They, and those who still believe in them, shouldn't have a problem if others do exactly that. And my credibility is not at stake here. Everybody is free to come to own conclusions. To believe my posts would be manipulative because I'm not invested doesn't make much sense. It's the opposite: I simply point out my honest thoughts because I have no horse in this race.

10) No, I have zero intention to write the price down and I won't buy into it in any scenario, no matter of price. I'm one of those who don't believe in the use-case and I don't believe in the team. I don't believe in their abilities to lead a project to success and even without this silly PR-Stunt I would see this project and their ICO as an overvalued hype, which only worked out so well because it was "pre hyped" in the fintech-space. And what a majority doesn't seems to care much about, but it really is a major aspect in my opinion: I consider the introduction of their new idea to become Ico-advisors as a bad sign because 1) it is not thought out as well, 2) it has nothing to do with what they've sold in their ICO, and most important: 3) it shows a lack of commitment regarding their core-project.

A committed team would never decide to make things more complicated. There would also be no reason to hype a project even more after a successful ICO with any kind of PR before real delivery. They got about $50 mln and shouldn't have any time to think about ICO-advisory, about torturing their own Investors, making silly videos including a "making of". #smokeandmirrors

I wouldn't ever buy into a project that shows such a lack of having priorities.

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April 22, 2018, 01:05:03 PM
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Just found this article on Twitter, very well written by a professional. Especially the Savedroid-team should read it:

https://medium.com/@erhankorhaliller/after-this-pr-stunt-even-a-superhuman-robot-would-struggle-to-explain-what-the-savedroid-team-were-f32ae3c92f31

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April 22, 2018, 04:36:41 PM
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i have more than 100 referral  they buy + 10M SVD and now they blame me because your stupid idea

we need refund from you because:
we don't trust you anymore
we accept 14 days refund period but we don't accept stupide joke like this

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April 22, 2018, 05:21:59 PM
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While alarmists are writing their nonsense, Tidex has returned the SVD to his sheet.  Grin


It's good news and thanks for sharing it with us

https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/btc
https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/eth
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April 22, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
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While alarmists are writing their nonsense, Tidex has returned the SVD to his sheet.  Grin


It's good news and thanks for sharing it with us

https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/btc
https://tidex.com/exchange/svd/eth

as far as i know, the tokens are still locked...
So still time for Savedroid to make the right move and offer a refund.
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April 22, 2018, 07:21:46 PM
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Hello guys, who know, when will be token distribution for Bounty participations? Thank.
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I wouldn’t rule out the fact that this weekend the whole team is really packing their stuff and vanish for good...

That is what i am thinking though.

Now that would be morbidly funny. Morbidly in more than one way I'm sure if theyd really pull that stunt  Grin

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Situation about this ICO shows us how blind could be investors, bounty hunters and other supporters because of believing of getting xxx profits soon!
We have to chnge something in order not to be catched by such scammers in the future! So maybe the country of the origin of the ICO should have its own investigation about every ICO that become a scam or has possible chances to be like this!

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April 23, 2018, 02:30:44 AM
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I didn't understand why people still creating panic situation into this thread even this has cleared on next day after that bad PR campaign. We must give another chance to dev team to deliver this otherwise nobody will get nothing. I have still believe in the future of this project and we must show our support.
I think they are shillers - they want to dump of the SVD. Don`t believe them. When they buy coins at a price below ICO, they will arrange a pamp on the good news.  
You just need to have strong hands and ignore the pessimists  Wink

tempus - one of them! Look at his profile. The legend is cool! Many people will believe him.
The last message in January. Then silence. He was never in the subject of SaveDroid  - he was not interested in anything and is not part of the community.
And then the boom - from April 19 he wrote 21 messages ONLY IN THIS TOPIC AND GERMAN Nowhere else he writes. This is a manipulator. Only a negative texts - a very long read!
It seems to me - he was paid. Or he himself tries to make a dump!
I see through you dude  Grin

Nice try Nice_Try! ;-)


But let me explain. I have nothing to hide:

1) Yes, I'm not invested. I didn't even know this project until I saw the desperation on twitter after the Savedroid-CEO had pushed out his "over and out - tweet".

2) I recognized they are germans. I'm also a german and probably that was the first trigger to pay attention

3) After reading a bit and thinking about that move, nothing made any sense to me. Especially that got me really interested, simply the question what this is about. My first conclusion was: Whatever it is or will turn out to be, in any case it's stupid and insane.

4) The next day their explanation-video... I just thought "what a stupid idiot, what an insane combination of pure arrogance and naivety." that has lead into such stupidity and ruthlessness, pretending an educational purpose while clearly they are the ones who should go back to school.  

5) It was a safe prediction that it would backfire hard and to see that was kind of entertaining but also embarrassing. Actually I was happy to see the hard media-echo in Germany. I talked with some of the german Investors on the german thread and got more information, figured that not even their story was true (would have been so easy to exit scam with all of the funds).

7) Even after the first hard feedback they didn't learn. They kept on with their arrogance (most of it on german threads), still pretending they could have executed a scam, pretending that they wanted to educate people about that, and even about the greed in the market. And yes, all of that made me really angry, even if not invested myself. They hyped their ICO to $50 mln, then put anybody else at risk including their own partners, while risking nothing of their own money that they only got because people trusted them. And they even want to educate others and even point on greed? Damn, that's bolt!

8 ) They pretend the intention to educate all others, but in fact they have acted deceptive. And while they also pretend they would have solved the situation with their explanation, they've just built another lie on the first deception. Whenever I see something like that I consider a high probability that the claimed intention is also not true or at least not the whole truth. Since they've even started a new website, saying "ICO Advisory coming soon - made in Germany" I believe their main-intention was promoting that.  

9) They are the ones who have turned what was meant to be business into a social experiment with educational purpose. They, and those who still believe in them, shouldn't have a problem if others do exactly that. And my credibility is not at stake here. Everybody is free to come to own conclusions. To believe my posts would be manipulative because I'm not invested doesn't make much sense. It's the opposite: I simply point out my honest thoughts because I have no horse in this race.

10) No, I have zero intention to write the price down and I won't buy into it in any scenario, no matter of price. I'm one of those who don't believe in the use-case and I don't believe in the team. I don't believe in their abilities to lead a project to success and even without this silly PR-Stunt I would see this project and their ICO as an overvalued hype, which only worked out so well because it was "pre hyped" in the fintech-space. And what a majority doesn't seems to care much about, but it really is a major aspect in my opinion: I consider the introduction of their new idea to become Ico-advisors as a bad sign because 1) it is not thought out as well, 2) it has nothing to do with what they've sold in their ICO, and most important: 3) it shows a lack of commitment regarding their core-project.

A committed team would never decide to make things more complicated. There would also be no reason to hype a project even more after a successful ICO with any kind of PR before real delivery. They got about $50 mln and shouldn't have any time to think about ICO-advisory, about torturing their own Investors, making silly videos including a "making of". #smokeandmirrors

I wouldn't ever buy into a project that shows such a lack of having priorities.

_____________

Some words to those who believe posts like this to be strategic- or maybe even paid FUD: It's natural that you want to see it that way because you recognize critique as risk of your Investment. That's understandable. But again: Those who push for a refund are right and giving that choice would be best for everybody. If I would want to see Investors suffer, maybe even buy cheap later, I would not write in favor of a refund but the opposite. Again, the reason is simple: The probability of a crashing price increases the more supply will hit the exchanges and the other way around.



couldn't write it better  Cool

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April 23, 2018, 04:23:46 AM
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Crypto in Germany legalized as I know. But how this can help them release cards, if Visa and mastercard want not working with crypto?

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April 23, 2018, 06:50:12 AM
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Situation about this ICO shows us how blind could be investors, bounty hunters and other supporters because of believing of getting xxx profits soon!
We have to chnge something in order not to be catched by such scammers in the future! So maybe the country of the origin of the ICO should have its own investigation about every ICO that become a scam or has possible chances to be like this!

Far away from that, Savedroid AG is an existing company in Germany with real business, and Germany is kinda overregulated, they used an Escrow and a bank in Liechtenstein for their ICO, if you can't trust such an ICO you can not trust any other ICO (except maybe in Swiss Wink) nor any other Fundraise outside crypto.

and btw, German justice is already investigating and i think civil lawsuits will follow, we'll see..
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April 23, 2018, 07:23:09 AM
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Hello guys, who know, when will be token distribution for Bounty participations? Thank.

please dont ask stupid question, even investor not yet receive token, only 25% from the total investor got their token
now all investor just want to refund, this project allready failed
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April 23, 2018, 07:51:17 AM
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To reverse the negative effect from the project need double work and to promote something much more interesting than that promo stunt which brought them in this situation. Investors are mature enough to understand and to be able to make difference in things. I was expecting aggressive press releases to ask excuse publicly and to ask for second chance to continue.
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April 23, 2018, 07:56:58 AM
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Hello guys, who know, when will be token distribution for Bounty participations? Thank.

please dont ask stupid question, even investor not yet receive token, only 25% from the total investor got their token
now all investor just want to refund, this project allready failed

Do not speak for all. Another FUDer. I'm not going to take a refund. When will be the listing I buy more coins - when many stupid investors will be sold at a low price Grin
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April 23, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
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Hello guys, who know, when will be token distribution for Bounty participations? Thank.

please dont ask stupid question, even investor not yet receive token, only 25% from the total investor got their token
now all investor just want to refund, this project allready failed

Do not speak for all. Another FUDer. I'm not going to take a refund. When will be the listing I buy more coins - when many stupid investors will be sold at a low price Grin
https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdeb4b83251fb146687fa19d1c660f99411eefe3
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May I ask a question? When tokens will be listed on exchanges? There are no any information from team, except their jokes... No information about token distribution...

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To reverse the negative effect from the project need double work and to promote something much more interesting than that promo stunt which brought them in this situation. Investors are mature enough to understand and to be able to make difference in things. I was expecting aggressive press releases to ask excuse publicly and to ask for second chance to continue.

They've put themselves into a situation they are unable to control/handle. Until now they've achieved exactly one thing: To raise a shitload of money in this space. The whole company is probably not even worth $5 mln but the marketcap of a token with the purpose to fuel a gimmick-usecase without any sense should be worth about $50 mln? Who the hell would ever pay for giving away his private keys to watch the system making unnecessary transactions whenever Trump makes a tweet or the favorite team wins a match?

A majority of those who invested into this must be new and unexperienced like these Fintech-Clowns who managed to sell a useless App. On top of that they promote their ICO-advisory using deception and lies, pushing own Investors into desperation, divide their Community into those who are mad as hell and want their money back, and those who still want to believe in them.

And now about the obvious fact here: While some of those who still believe in them try to calm down critiques, those who caused this mess and should be on top of the communication on all fronts, went silent - on all fronts.

Why? Because it's impossible to defend their stupid deception any further using already debunked lies. They don't know anything about this space. Nothing about useful and innovative usecases, nothing about what Crypto really is about and what could be accomplished by using Blockchain-Technology, nothing about the vital and controversial communication on platforms like this one or Reddit etc. They are just skilled in using bolt buzzwords and silly price-prediction-charts and their Fintech-Background to blind unexperienced Guys and lure them into giving them money. And instead of going heads down into Development or just to mange the distribution of their tokens after getting $50 mln, they write down things like:

- Website down
- Savedroid is gone
- get users angry
- motivate users to visit our office

Source: Behind the scenes
https://youtu.be/CyAllUhDxXk?t=41s


...what a genius and thought out strategy and how subtle that is, right? Like everything they do... That's the red line.
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April 23, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
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Hello guys, who know, when will be token distribution for Bounty participations? Thank.

please dont ask stupid question, even investor not yet receive token, only 25% from the total investor got their token
now all investor just want to refund, this project allready failed

Do not speak for all. Another FUDer. I'm not going to take a refund. When will be the listing I buy more coins - when many stupid investors will be sold at a low price Grin
https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdeb4b83251fb146687fa19d1c660f99411eefe3
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May I ask a question? When tokens will be listed on exchanges? There are no any information from team, except their jokes... No information about token distribution...

I do not know when the listing will be exact. I think it will be in May. But I'm more interested in the question - what will be the fifth exchange from TOP5? I hope that it will be Huobi Grin

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April 23, 2018, 09:41:33 AM
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Crypto in Germany legalized as I know. But how this can help them release cards, if Visa and mastercard want not working with crypto?

VISA/Masercard has no interest to provide support for crypto related projects so that I won't be easy to release a working card in current situation. Crypto is legal in whole Europe but they have to find an alternative way to provide this service.
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Crypto in Germany legalized as I know. But how this can help them release cards, if Visa and mastercard want not working with crypto?

VISA/Masercard has no interest to provide support for crypto related projects so that I won't be easy to release a working card in current situation. Crypto is legal in whole Europe but they have to find an alternative way to provide this service.

I asked the same. How they will release cards? There are only 2 card provider in whole world - Visa and Mastercard. Which alternative service you mean? How they can issue cards bypassing without Visa or Master?

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April 23, 2018, 09:56:11 AM
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Hello guys, who know, when will be token distribution for Bounty participations? Thank.

please dont ask stupid question, even investor not yet receive token, only 25% from the total investor got their token
now all investor just want to refund, this project allready failed

Do not speak for all. Another FUDer. I'm not going to take a refund. When will be the listing I buy more coins - when many stupid investors will be sold at a low price Grin
https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdeb4b83251fb146687fa19d1c660f99411eefe3
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May I ask a question? When tokens will be listed on exchanges? There are no any information from team, except their jokes... No information about token distribution...

I do not know when the listing will be exact. I think it will be in May. But I'm more interested in the question - what will be the fifth exchange from TOP5? I hope that it will be Huobi Grin

Top 5 exchange ? lol

stop dreaming dude, no exchange will accept this token anymore, even number 200 exchange wont accept this failed project
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