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Author Topic: [ANN][ICO] Fire Lotto - International blockchain LOTTERY  (Read 13516 times)
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March 13, 2018, 04:20:05 PM
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This thread is very confusing. Fight two sides of newbie accounts, maybe if devs release whole code or a statement from SEC, then we get some proofs Smiley
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March 13, 2018, 04:25:07 PM
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I understand correctly that thanks to the blockchain, the lottery will be fair? It turns out, it is impossible to forge the results of the lottery.
No source codes are available, no data flow and execution diagrams too. So it is hard to say if lottery results can be manipulated or not. They claim that they are 100% decentralized but suspicions are that some centralized servers and involved. Product is not autonomous so some people and/or server(s) are needed to make it running ... and it can stop at any time if those (centralized) services will be not available.

Your argument about the non-public source code is very important. As long as they don't show it publicly it is normal to assume that it's not 100% decentralized and might be prone to manipulation. Also, what is the point in hiding the source code?

I'm kinda split on this one. Having an open/public source code (all of them) adds credibility to the project and it's kinda expected nowadays, but as a (somewhat) developer myself, I can understand the reasons for wanting to keep the code hidden. Especially now when projects are being forked or copied all the time, I wouldn't want to expose all of my work for someone to copy it and possibly create a competition for myself. But on the other hand, I can't have a total confidence that the project is 100% legit or decentralized or whatever if they keep a major portion of the code hidden.

The FireLotto team stated earlier in the thread that they will release the code once the ICO is over to protect the "patent" from competition, so we'll just have to see.

All right. We will open all the code after ICO to avoid copying other projects
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March 13, 2018, 04:28:57 PM
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This thread is very confusing. Fight two sides of newbie accounts, maybe if devs release whole code or a statement from SEC, then we get some proofs Smiley
We will disclose all the code after ICO.
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March 13, 2018, 04:30:14 PM
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This thread is very confusing. Fight two sides of newbie accounts, maybe if devs release whole code or a statement from SEC, then we get some proofs Smiley

Under SEC regulations we are not aloud to disclose info about exchanges and possible income. BUT if you compare us to similar projects you will see everything.

We are in close contact with our legal team an SEC. the main purpose to have a company to be able to accept investments legally to increase prize fund so that fully decentralized lottery will be played all over the world. One more thing. The new company is coming in soon. You are not investing in a company. You are investing in a global fully decentralized lottery platform with a running lottery and prize fund been deposited, that cannot be shut down by any government. Which companies we use to accept money is a head ace for our legal team.
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March 13, 2018, 04:35:14 PM
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They have a goal to discredit the project, because we did not give them money

Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flagpole
- kermitas
- hemlockboy

Evidence
https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg

https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/53/65a8818fe16b.jpg
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March 13, 2018, 04:38:38 PM
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Ah, what about the 2 different people for "Elena Bogdanova" HuhHuhHuh?

We have 2 different people, really, 1 for the "Cash Poker Pro ICO" and the other for "Firelotto ICO"

https://imgur.com/a/21xbB

https://imgur.com/a/MkUtO

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March 13, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
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Ah, what about the 2 different people for "Elena Bogdanova" HuhHuhHuh?

We have 2 different people, really, 1 for the "Cash Poker Pro ICO" and the other for "Firelotto ICO"

https://imgur.com/a/21xbB

https://imgur.com/a/MkUtO



Same persons are involved in Fire Lotto scam!  Remember that the first project Cash Poker Pro ICO- decentralized poker room  scammed many investors and is labeled as a obvious SCAM! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056999.msg20517116#msg20517116  https://cashpokerpro.io/

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March 13, 2018, 05:35:17 PM
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                                                              TWO DIFFERENT AND FAKE ADDRESSES  WITHIN 2 WEEKS!!!  TOTAL SCAM!!!!


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March 13, 2018, 06:12:07 PM
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Dear community, read the article and support the project: The team of scammers is attacking the project Fire Lotto

https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto
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March 13, 2018, 06:36:18 PM
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March 13, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
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Dear community, read the article and support the project: The team of scammers is attacking the project Fire Lotto

https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto
don't you have English version? not everybody speaks Russian and I mean to provide information all investors is very important in this situation
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March 13, 2018, 06:59:39 PM
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Dear community, read the article and support the project: The team of scammers is attacking the project Fire Lotto

https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto
don't you have English version? not everybody speaks Russian and I mean to provide information all investors is very important in this situation

You can read dialogs with scammers. Specially translated into English


https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg
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March 13, 2018, 08:19:57 PM
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Dear community, read the article and support the project: The team of scammers is attacking the project Fire Lotto

https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto
don't you have English version? not everybody speaks Russian and I mean to provide information all investors is very important in this situation

https://hype.codes/scammers-invent-new-ways-attack-ico-projects

Don't know if it's the same as the Russian version, but I figure the basis is the same.
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March 13, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
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This is scam! I'm old investor of Cashpoker, so I watched them ) and I can say with confidence THIS IS SCAM!

Thanks for posting bud. This scammers must be jailed.
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March 14, 2018, 08:20:10 AM
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The Fire Lotto team will not pay you for blackmail, threats and extortion !!
Dear community, the team of intruders refers to you projects as their pride in correspondence, extorting funds from the Fire Lotto.


http://image.ibb.co/jPAhQ7/r6bzvbal_mo.jpg
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March 14, 2018, 11:41:39 AM
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This is scam! I'm old investor of Cashpoker, so I watched them ) and I can say with confidence THIS IS SCAM!

Thanks for posting bud. This scammers must be jailed.

You are scammers who are masked by Robin Hood of crypto world and are trying to defile a project that has been running more than for 3 months and has real winners. no evidence, just words.
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March 14, 2018, 12:34:43 PM
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Hey why am I off the "Scammers" list???

True, I am also an Investor, but that's why I came out and helped unveil this corrupt Russian plot!

1.  Cash Bet Pro ICO -- Roman Demidov and company ripped off a lot of people last year

2.  No Transparency!   No running code available -- here are the smart contracts running Firelotto.com:

 0xd06FD155421a993057113f5e2597Bf65b9f42b00', // 5x36 v1.1
 0xE044e2eb641Efa48B97ef05c24f70F7675D2D404' // 6x45 v1.1
 0xa0306fCaE88f84CBBe2CF784B1046A94DeF54015', // 4x20 v1.1

...if you check them out, all bytecode, no source available.

 3.  GitHub -- fake old smart contracts, how can we believe this is even used?  If we can't audit the live contracts, it's bunk

4.  Corporate Fakes -- based in Cyprus?  Singapore?  Russia?

5.  Fake People like Elena Bogdanova (2 different pictures, one for Cash Poker Pro ICO, a different one for FireLotto ICO

I checked their smart contracts on github as well. All of them are completely FAKE! ALL THIS LOTTERY IS COMPLETELY FAKE!

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March 14, 2018, 03:58:06 PM
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Dear participants of the forum!

ICO FireLotto starts tomorrow in 12.00 UTC and runs until 15.04. We suggest you familiarize yourself with the price of the ICO token

https://image.ibb.co/ciQ3xx/photo_2018_03_14_17_21_47.jpg
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March 14, 2018, 03:59:51 PM
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Community, check articles on HYPE.CODES about scammers and their attack to the Fire Lotto project:
https://hype.codes/scammers-invent-new-ways-attack-ico-projects
https://hype.codes/scammers-turn-threatening-attempt-rob-ico-project

Also on Russian language:
https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto

Team of the SCAMMERS team members:

Mosprognoz;
Circles;
Gorbal
atenolol
flagpole
kermitas
hemlockboy
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March 14, 2018, 05:34:24 PM
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Hey why am I off the "Scammers" list???

True, I am also an Investor, but that's why I came out and helped unveil this corrupt Russian plot!

1.  Cash Bet Pro ICO -- Roman Demidov and company ripped off a lot of people last year

2.  No Transparency!   No running code available -- here are the smart contracts running Firelotto.com:

 0xd06FD155421a993057113f5e2597Bf65b9f42b00', // 5x36 v1.1
 0xE044e2eb641Efa48B97ef05c24f70F7675D2D404' // 6x45 v1.1
 0xa0306fCaE88f84CBBe2CF784B1046A94DeF54015', // 4x20 v1.1

...if you check them out, all bytecode, no source available.

 3.  GitHub -- fake old smart contracts, how can we believe this is even used?  If we can't audit the live contracts, it's bunk

4.  Corporate Fakes -- based in Cyprus?  Singapore?  Russia?

5.  Fake People like Elena Bogdanova (2 different pictures, one for Cash Poker Pro ICO, a different one for FireLotto ICO
1. Cash Poker Pro project ongoing. And will finish in few months. Cash Poker Pro community informed about it.

2. Made update for the smart contract to safe GAS for the players. It was 170 000 GAS in 4x20 lottery and now 150 000. Lottery players can safe several cents from the commission for each lottery ticket.

3. Have all smart contracts on GitHub. You just ask same questions many times.

4. Use different companies for different solutions (payments/ license/ certification). Fire Lotto lottery decentralised and belongs to the community.

5. You can check Elena Bogdanova in LinkedIn also in Grohe group/company. She is professional lawyer fro many years.

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