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Author Topic: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com  (Read 829908 times)
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March 07, 2014, 10:45:24 PM
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Load balancing is just a waiting connection to all pools in your pool list. Work is then round robin rotation based on pool work quota, meaning each pool simply takes a turn. But there are also other factors in the work quotas, a disconnect will reset the pools quota, and I believe it adjusts quota based on rejects too.

I used to run load balancing between two servers and it was never 50/50, even over a long period. If you want to measure pools correctly, the load balancing isn't going to work. You'll have to setup a separate cgminer instance for each pool, preferably with identical performing card for each pool.
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March 08, 2014, 12:11:54 AM
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Load balancing is just a waiting connection to all pools in your pool list. Work is then round robin rotation based on pool work quota, meaning each pool simply takes a turn. But there are also other factors in the work quotas, a disconnect will reset the pools quota, and I believe it adjusts quota based on rejects too.

I used to run load balancing between two servers and it was never 50/50, even over a long period. If you want to measure pools correctly, the load balancing isn't going to work. You'll have to setup a separate cgminer instance for each pool, preferably with identical performing card for each pool.


It's good to hear from someone who has read the code. So, you think the uneven balance word not average out over a test like this and would favor one pool all the time?


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March 08, 2014, 12:26:06 AM
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Load balancing is just a waiting connection to all pools in your pool list. Work is then round robin rotation based on pool work quota, meaning each pool simply takes a turn. But there are also other factors in the work quotas, a disconnect will reset the pools quota, and I believe it adjusts quota based on rejects too.

I used to run load balancing between two servers and it was never 50/50, even over a long period. If you want to measure pools correctly, the load balancing isn't going to work. You'll have to setup a separate cgminer instance for each pool, preferably with identical performing card for each pool.


It's good to hear from someone who has read the code. So, you think the uneven balance word not average out over a test like this and would favor one pool all the time?



Chad is going to dedicate 1 rig per pool, thus avoiding this issue.
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March 08, 2014, 12:33:23 AM
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So, you think the uneven balance word not average out over a test like this and would favor one pool all the time?
Well it would be spot checking every pool in the list, so it'd favor no pool really - and it would almost certainly not be properly balanced between the pools.

Chad is going to dedicate 1 rig per pool, thus avoiding this issue.
That is probably the closest you'll get to a fair measurement of pools - assuming the rigs are identical, stable and run from the same location.
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March 08, 2014, 04:09:02 AM
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I'm sorry to say the experiment has already gone awry.  All four rigs have been hashing stable for weeks, but  unfortunately two of the rigs became unstable right after I switched the pool management.  The dedicated Middlecoin rig and the load balancing rig are both hashing fine, but the Clevermining and Wafflepool rigs each had one video card go dead.  I think it may be a heat issue since this is the hottest day I have seen with this setup to date and the middle two rigs are the ones that had a card go down.  The two rigs hashing away fine are on the "outside" of the lineup like bookends.

What is strange is cgminer is unresponsive/not updating, but according to the pools, both rigs are still sending shares minus the two dead cards.  Instead of listing the cards as dead cgminer shows the fan speed as zero and the temp as 511 degrees.  I'm guessing they hit some kind of thermal cut off.  I'm going to restart them now that it's cooler and see what happens, but it threw a wrench in the numbers right from the start.  : (

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March 08, 2014, 04:11:41 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.
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March 08, 2014, 04:28:15 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.

Lol... EPIC!!!
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March 08, 2014, 04:29:43 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.

Epic!!!
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March 08, 2014, 04:39:36 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.

And the award for best internet on the day goes to!!!  This guy.
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March 08, 2014, 05:27:21 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards.

dude, you should be running the TNT 2 with cudaminer - it blows that Voodoo crap away. Sheesh - WTF were you thinking? Dam fanbois Sad




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March 08, 2014, 05:28:14 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.

Kaypros right?  lol
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March 08, 2014, 05:38:53 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards.

dude, you should be running the TNT 2 with cudaminer - it blows that Voodoo crap away. Sheesh - WTF were you thinking? Dam fanbois Sad


Well I have power issues since I upgraded the boards to support USB. That way I can run cgminer off the Zip disks. They have faster read times. I'd like to eventually get Jazz drives but the way these pools are going I'm not so sure.
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March 08, 2014, 06:02:24 AM
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I'm sorry to say the experiment has already gone awry.  All four rigs have been hashing stable for weeks, but  unfortunately two of the rigs became unstable right after I switched the pool management.  The dedicated Middlecoin rig and the load balancing rig are both hashing fine, but the Clevermining and Wafflepool rigs each had one video card go dead.  I think it may be a heat issue since this is the hottest day I have seen with this setup to date and the middle two rigs are the ones that had a card go down.  The two rigs hashing away fine are on the "outside" of the lineup like bookends.

What is strange is cgminer is unresponsive/not updating, but according to the pools, both rigs are still sending shares minus the two dead cards.  Instead of listing the cards as dead cgminer shows the fan speed as zero and the temp as 511 degrees.  I'm guessing they hit some kind of thermal cut off.  I'm going to restart them now that it's cooler and see what happens, but it threw a wrench in the numbers right from the start.  : (

Chad
If you wanna make a proper test, you should also (in addition of what Kalroth said) make 3 new BTC addresses and aim each rig to a separated address, that way you avoid dust adding to your balance and affecting your results (I know you said you removed first day of payment from MC to do so, but that's not enough. I got dust payment from MC a week after I stopped mining there and it was pretty big payment too).
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March 08, 2014, 06:04:13 AM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.

So.  Much.  Win.

Grin
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March 08, 2014, 02:58:46 PM
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So I've been mining here for 49 days now and have not received a payment yet. I have 12 rigs. Each rig has 6 3DFX Voodoo 3 cards. My total hashrate combined is 0.01 KH/s. When I press the turbo button on the front of each case I can max out to 0.02 KH/s but cgminer becomes unstable on win95 running off the floppy. Anyway, my calculations show I should have at least 0.001 BTC by the 44th day and I don't yet. I'm moving on to another pool. I've had enough.


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March 08, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
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Oldfag detected!
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March 09, 2014, 03:34:54 AM
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Any news if MC still sending payment if reached 0.01 everyday? Planning to return here.
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March 09, 2014, 04:27:49 AM
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yes, and payments seems a little bit better last few days.

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March 09, 2014, 08:38:44 AM
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Better? Meaning worse? This is what I see on my only card left here, this is what mc_watcher @ twitter sees and this is what poolpicker.eu reports.
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March 09, 2014, 10:13:32 AM
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By Pool picker, MC last day was 0,004 BTC/MHs. But I think that pool picker is wrong, look at last day 'red line' on MC, it starts on something like ~60 BTC and goes to ~150 BTC = ~90 BTC divided between ~12,5GHs, thats about ~0,007 BTC/MHs (but this is very rough extimate), unexchanged + immature is almost the same, not influencing results much. This suppose that miners are honored equally according to their hashrate. So, at least last day, performance of MC, compared to another multipools, is the same. No, MC performance is not better now (it's bad since half of previous month and it's unstable, look three days ago, it mined something like ~50 BTC for whole day at 13,5GHs), but all other multipools lost, so MC is back in game now.

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