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April 11, 2018, 10:21:52 PM
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L3+ only $462 - $200 coupon.
They must have a new more powerful model coming out??

Was thinking that myself.  I have a couple $420 coupons was thinking of getting some of those for next to nothing.

Only $220 or below coupons work for this batch of L3+.

good to know I used a 200  and paid

462 + 99 = 561 - 200 = 361

Do you have any $200 coupons for sale ?

I can give you a 100 for free.




Thank you Phil - Used a coupon, worked out well.
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April 12, 2018, 04:07:22 AM
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L3+ only $462 - $200 coupon.
They must have a new more powerful model coming out??

Was thinking that myself.  I have a couple $420 coupons was thinking of getting some of those for next to nothing.

Only $220 or below coupons work for this batch of L3+.

good to know I used a 200  and paid

462 + 99 = 561 - 200 = 361

Do you have any $200 coupons for sale ?

I can give you a 100 for free.




Thank you Phil - Used a coupon, worked out well.

I think I ended up buying 11 of them but a little slower to start would have saved me some money.

I paid about 800 or 850   on average for the 11.

I like the clock to 312
the watts drop to 680
the fans are 24%

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April 12, 2018, 04:41:03 AM
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L3+ only $462 - $200 coupon.
They must have a new more powerful model coming out??

Was thinking that myself.  I have a couple $420 coupons was thinking of getting some of those for next to nothing.

Only $220 or below coupons work for this batch of L3+.

good to know I used a 200  and paid

462 + 99 = 561 - 200 = 361

Do you have any $200 coupons for sale ?

I can give you a 100 for free.




Thank you Phil - Used a coupon, worked out well.

I think I ended up buying 11 of them but a little slower to start would have saved me some money.

I paid about 800 or 850   on average for the 11.

I like the clock to 312
the watts drop to 680
the fans are 24%

Hi philip, whats your take on the L3+? Thats a lot, 11 pcs is more than a gamble. Aren't you afraid that they will be releasing a new model soon that will make your L3+s obsolete? I'm sure you've done the math but would you care to share your thoughts?

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April 12, 2018, 05:13:47 AM
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I got a reply from Steven.

"yes they are legit, helping with our IPO"



Is this legit?
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Hard to say if it's legit or not.
I would just send Steve@Canaan.io you probably already know he's the head of sales and marketing.

I would have thought if anything you might have received an email from someone else in their sales team, or from a Canadian distributor if one ever appears.


I forwarded the email even higher to Jon Phillips and Xiangfu actually.

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April 12, 2018, 06:40:56 AM
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If anyone has any spare 200 coupons for Bitmain they don't plan on using, hit me up.

I'm trying to dip my toe into the ASIC market for the first time and would like to order a few L3+.

Thanks Smiley
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April 12, 2018, 09:52:24 AM
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I have spare $200 coupons which I could sell. I have 6 I wont use

Pls how much are these going for?
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April 12, 2018, 12:32:53 PM
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Everyone mining ZEN, it looks like the miners are about to get screwed big time as more of the block reward gets diverted to shady "supernodes" and "securenodes":

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047435.msg34458806#msg34458806

I'm giving some serious think [sic] as to whether I want to continue mining this coin now.



Well if you have 43 coins, it's time for a node !

.... and 600 coins for a Supernode!

I saw 500 !?
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April 12, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
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Everyone mining ZEN, it looks like the miners are about to get screwed big time as more of the block reward gets diverted to shady "supernodes" and "securenodes":

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047435.msg34458806#msg34458806

I'm giving some serious think [sic] as to whether I want to continue mining this coin now.



Well if you have 43 coins, it's time for a node !

.... and 600 coins for a Supernode!

I saw 500 !?

Yeah, both of them are wrong...  Tongue You need 42 ZEN for a secure node and 500 ZEN for a super node.

Also, these changes are slated to go into effect in late Q3 of this year, so plenty of time to keep mining. I definitely won't continue once an effective 30% tax is in place, however (ie - only 70% of each mined block will be paid out to miners).
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April 12, 2018, 06:14:41 PM
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The people that are good on RX mining, how to setup on simplemining (claymore) to run dagger-hashimoto with lower temps? Right now it does around 29.5Mh/s. I will be happy to lower down the temps and power consumption with lower hash.. but I cannot get it done.
I've tried with 800 and 850 at voltage (currently are 900), lowering the power stage (right now is 4), playing with -dcri, -asm, but I cannot make it.
Anyone got any advice? During the high temps (around 26-30 degrees here in Europe) I've just powered it off and I'm trying to find settings so I could lower down the temps and power consumption.

Thanks
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April 12, 2018, 06:52:33 PM
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L3+ only $462 - $200 coupon.
They must have a new more powerful model coming out??

Was thinking that myself.  I have a couple $420 coupons was thinking of getting some of those for next to nothing.

Only $220 or below coupons work for this batch of L3+.

good to know I used a 200  and paid

462 + 99 = 561 - 200 = 361

Do you have any $200 coupons for sale ?

I can give you a 100 for free.




Thank you Phil - Used a coupon, worked out well.

I think I ended up buying 11 of them but a little slower to start would have saved me some money.

I paid about 800 or 850   on average for the 11.

I like the clock to 312
the watts drop to 680
the fans are 24%

Hi philip, whats your take on the L3+? Thats a lot, 11 pcs is more than a gamble. Aren't you afraid that they will be releasing a new model soon that will make your L3+s obsolete? I'm sure you've done the math but would you care to share your thoughts?

buysolar and I are designing a solar  mining setup.

six  200 watt panels --------------- 10-20 year warranty
special solar to psu gear to miner gear ----------- 5-7 year warranty
L3+ ---------------------------------- more or less disposable.

concept is simple  pay one price never pay again

L3+  uses 800-850 watts for  500mhs
it uses  690 - watts for 400mhs and is quiet fans go  to 25%  at freq 312

the key to key price low  is gear under  850 watts like the L3

if I do this with
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avalon 841 
T1

they all exceed 1200 watts.

This  type of setup can be on grid or off grid.
Off grid is cheaper no permits  just have space
On gird  costs more needs  a permit

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April 12, 2018, 07:05:45 PM
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The people that are good on RX mining, how to setup on simplemining (claymore) to run dagger-hashimoto with lower temps? Right now it does around 29.5Mh/s. I will be happy to lower down the temps and power consumption with lower hash.. but I cannot get it done.
I've tried with 800 and 850 at voltage (currently are 900), lowering the power stage (right now is 4), playing with -dcri, -asm, but I cannot make it.
Anyone got any advice? During the high temps (around 26-30 degrees here in Europe) I've just powered it off and I'm trying to find settings so I could lower down the temps and power consumption.

Thanks


https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/amd-linux/918649-underclocking-undervolting-the-rx-470-with-amdgpu-pro-success

Don't go with their 818 figure on the undervolt though (I'm running about 860 on my Polaris-based rigs), it's turned out to be a bit optimistic for a wide range of RX 470/480 cards.
AMDGPU does NOT support undervolting or lowering clocks out of the box as of the current 17.50 version (or older), you have to hack the applicable kernel module to make it work, though BIOS modding the card for lower voltage and clocks SHOULD work as well.


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April 12, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
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I had a couple of things collide in my mind last night.

Price of L3+ big drop - indicating a fairly high probability of a new Bitmain Scrypt miner soon.
That video claiming to be from some Bitmain "F3 miner" - and the hashrate in the video.

I already commented a couple places about that video possibly NOT being for an Ethereum miner - but now I'm strongly suspecting it's from a new Bitmain 14/16nm node based SCRYPT miner.

1500 Mhash/s on Scrypt at probably somewhere in the 1000 watt range just makes SENSE for a new-node Bitmain miner to be released in probably 2-3 months.


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April 12, 2018, 07:24:53 PM
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The people that are good on RX mining, how to setup on simplemining (claymore) to run dagger-hashimoto with lower temps? Right now it does around 29.5Mh/s. I will be happy to lower down the temps and power consumption with lower hash.. but I cannot get it done.
I've tried with 800 and 850 at voltage (currently are 900), lowering the power stage (right now is 4), playing with -dcri, -asm, but I cannot make it.
Anyone got any advice? During the high temps (around 26-30 degrees here in Europe) I've just powered it off and I'm trying to find settings so I could lower down the temps and power consumption.

Thanks


https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/amd-linux/918649-underclocking-undervolting-the-rx-470-with-amdgpu-pro-success

Don't go with their 818 figure on the undervolt though (I'm running about 860 on my Polaris-based rigs), it's turned out to be a bit optimistic for a wide range of RX 470/480 cards.
AMDGPU does NOT support undervolting or lowering clocks out of the box as of the current 17.50 version (or older), you have to hack the applicable kernel module to make it work, though BIOS modding the card for lower voltage and clocks SHOULD work as well.


Thanks. I will look into it and will come back with feedback Smiley
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April 12, 2018, 08:08:09 PM
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I had a couple of things collide in my mind last night.

Price of L3+ big drop - indicating a fairly high probability of a new Bitmain Scrypt miner soon.
That video claiming to be from some Bitmain "F3 miner" - and the hashrate in the video.

I already commented a couple places about that video possibly NOT being for an Ethereum miner - but now I'm strongly suspecting it's from a new Bitmain 14/16nm node based SCRYPT miner.

1500 Mhash/s on Scrypt at probably somewhere in the 1000 watt range just makes SENSE for a new-node Bitmain miner to be released in probably 2-3 months.



Alternatively, see A6+ from Innosilicon (1.23GHs, 1500w)

If a new 14/16nm (or better) 1.5GHs Scrypt ASICS from Bitmain is indeed coming, the A6+ by then hopefully will be priced lower.

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April 13, 2018, 03:06:50 AM
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I had a couple of things collide in my mind last night.

Price of L3+ big drop - indicating a fairly high probability of a new Bitmain Scrypt miner soon.
That video claiming to be from some Bitmain "F3 miner" - and the hashrate in the video.

I already commented a couple places about that video possibly NOT being for an Ethereum miner - but now I'm strongly suspecting it's from a new Bitmain 14/16nm node based SCRYPT miner.

1500 Mhash/s on Scrypt at probably somewhere in the 1000 watt range just makes SENSE for a new-node Bitmain miner to be released in probably 2-3 months.


well

the s-7  was 28nm

the s-9 is 16nm

4.7th  at 1175watts

13.5th at 1375 watts

or .2500 watts a gh
to .1018 watts a gh

huge improvement

so l3 is    800watts/500mh
1.6 watts a mh for l3

so l5 is 800watt/1250mh

.64 watts a mh

that would be the same 2.5 to 1 improvement

now innosilicon A6 is  1500watt/1230mh  that is 1.22 watts a mh

so  all bitmain needs to do  is pop a .80 watts a mh  to 1000watt 1250mh

to be fair dragon mint built a beast in the sia b52  amazing gear compared to other ones.

maybe they do it with the ltc algo  and make a .5 watt a mh  1000 watts and 2000mh

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L3+ is USD$485 per unit.... am I dreaming?

https://shop.bitmain.com/?lang=en

While on Bitmain web shop... stumbled into this ANTBOX

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180408203654123B7Orl8OU0673



MEANWHILE.... X3 rampage has started.

Extracted from NH Profitability calculator.. I think only Monero and Sumocoin forked, the rest of cryptonite coins are heading to pits...

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April 13, 2018, 10:37:28 AM
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L3+ is USD$485 per unit.... am I dreaming?

No your not, the previous L3+ batch was even cheaper at $462USD per unit.  Smiley

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April 13, 2018, 12:12:19 PM
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The people that are good on RX mining, how to setup on simplemining (claymore) to run dagger-hashimoto with lower temps? Right now it does around 29.5Mh/s. I will be happy to lower down the temps and power consumption with lower hash.. but I cannot get it done.
I've tried with 800 and 850 at voltage (currently are 900), lowering the power stage (right now is 4), playing with -dcri, -asm, but I cannot make it.
Anyone got any advice? During the high temps (around 26-30 degrees here in Europe) I've just powered it off and I'm trying to find settings so I could lower down the temps and power consumption.

Thanks


I've heard smOS is bad (and can't really do it other than the power stages which doesn't lower it that much anyway) at undervolting amd gpus. The only way it run the gpus undervolted with smOS is to mod the bios with the undervolt
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April 13, 2018, 02:33:41 PM
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how are you controlling case fans on the ONDA 8 gpu board ?

I got two fan header splitters and have 4 140mm maglev fans on the board , actualy i want to do six with splitters eventually

I noticed some of the fans are not spinning at max speed I have two in the back blowing towards to front , and two in front set up as exhaust fans

how do you set the fans to to basically go at max speed or at least 80%

these are PWM fans btw

i just used a 4 channel fan controller powered from a molex.

if all you want is 100% they make molex to pwm adapters that should run your fans at 100%, but a quick search shows they are kinda pricey for what you get.
https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIACJF64S3550

something like that? $15 though kinda pricy , but the cheapest i could find

this would allow me to set all the fans to say 80 percent right?

yes something along those lines, something with a rotary control to set speed.

cant comment on that particular one (the spelling is crazy bad and that doesnt inspire confidence) but thats the idea. set anywhere from off to 100% manually.
sounds good thanks

https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-System-Cables-Black-CPF04/dp/B00VNW556I

@bubbajo - thanks I ordered one, btw how do you control the fan speed with these since there is no speed knob

That unit isn't adjustable AFAIK.  Fan speed would have to be controlled via BIOS I guess?
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April 13, 2018, 02:49:59 PM
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The people that are good on RX mining, how to setup on simplemining (claymore) to run dagger-hashimoto with lower temps? Right now it does around 29.5Mh/s. I will be happy to lower down the temps and power consumption with lower hash.. but I cannot get it done.
I've tried with 800 and 850 at voltage (currently are 900), lowering the power stage (right now is 4), playing with -dcri, -asm, but I cannot make it.
Anyone got any advice? During the high temps (around 26-30 degrees here in Europe) I've just powered it off and I'm trying to find settings so I could lower down the temps and power consumption.

Thanks


I've heard smOS is bad (and can't really do it other than the power stages which doesn't lower it that much anyway) at undervolting amd gpus. The only way it run the gpus undervolted with smOS is to mod the bios with the undervolt

Been running with SMOS for more than a year now, since ETH farming days, RX470,RX480 all with custom roms for lower power works well SMOS. Post RX and 570/580, NVIDIA was a perfect fit in SMOS, no BIOS mods needed, good power controls, simple and fast deployment and vast miner support for NVIDIA. Cant imagine buying anymore GPUs from AMD unless the produce a miracle.

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