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January 15, 2018, 12:27:31 AM
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Seems promising, although I think you should think of a better name of your project, I don't know if it's just me, but AZULIK doesn't sound cool. Your project strong points is that it tries to be a currency that is fast and anonymous, so you should probably think of a name that describe this aspect of your project.

I think airdrops are not good for fair distributions because most people who will get these airdrops are not interested in the project but rather just looking for a way to sell it.

Raiblock's distribution was great because people who believed in Raiblock had to waste a lot of time to accumulate XRB, these people we will the hodlers that actually believe in the project and thus support the price.

My suggest is that you start the distribution as early as you can, even before releasing AZULIK these way you'll give a lot of people the chance to participate.

You should combine multiple systems of Captcha, for example, using pictures, typing words, solving math problems, use a combination of these Captcha to make it impossible for anyone to develop a bot that solve Captcha.

I hope your project succeed, and I will be watching this topic for any new announcement.




well, to be honest "raiblocks" doesn't sound cool either, and everyone seems to be mispronouncing it as "raiL blocks".

I agree that the name sucks but it will do for now.  Raiblocks will probably re-brand to Nano which does sound cool to me.  Typically when coins re-brand they get a nice pump so why not leave Azulik as Azulik for now and plan on a nice re-brand after it actually launches?
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January 15, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
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Why don't You Stone guy and XRB Devs collaborate why do u need to make 2 clones of the XRB code ?



 
Also your doing the same thing as stone asking for Donations that go directly into your pocket with no accountability I don't like that.


We don't share Stone approach which for us doesn't sound legit. XRB team is currently super busy fixing issues with the nodes. Regarding the donation:
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Regarding the donation yes we will stop it once we reach what we believe is enough to work in good conditions.
All the funds will be blocked in our Dev wallet and we will justify each time we use it (For example for the designer, to develop the website, rent an office for the weekend and some hardware) and keep the rest of the fund for later.

So scam or legit. Why no one trying to start from 0 and just forking existing coins Huh

Right now raiblocks having big problems with exchanges. I think why not create unique code and learn the lessons from raiblocks mistakes ?

Unique coin starts from normal, easy to remember name.
Your name is hard to remember.
Dont think AZULIK sounds light and easy to remember.
Also official discord channel is required for community so they can see if that project active.


Need website, whitepaper to show you serious about coin.
Donations will flow after you make something, not just write on forum Smiley
We don't fork raiblocks, we want to keep its philosophy and we mentionned in the first page we could modify the protocol to achieve this.
Check our whitepaper on the ann page, on top of that i agree that Azulik name could be changed.
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January 15, 2018, 06:58:05 PM
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What we plan to show is just amazing.

The results of our simulations. Ok said like that it doesn't sound really sexy.

Basically we simulate a simple DAG network, we are able to stress the network and do so many testing.

We will show you the real impact of the privacy on the DAG transaction time. We will also show you which of our approaches is the best. We will tell you whether it's really possible to have instant anonymous transaction or not.

Once it's done we will start coding the best approach and Azulik will be so amazing.

Stay tuned our first simulations results are so interresting !
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January 15, 2018, 06:59:45 PM
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Couldn't Raiblocks upgrade their protocol and implement privacy tech themselves? That might even be what is going to happen at some point in time in the future if the demand clearly indicates that.

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January 15, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
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Is the same people... Look at the donations part, same coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696095.0


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January 15, 2018, 07:06:09 PM
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how long before it can be released?

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January 15, 2018, 07:11:37 PM
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how long before it can be released?

It's hard to say right now, it will depend of our simulation results, we have seen very good results so far, if one of our approach allow us to have instant anonymous transaction hence we will start the coding. For sure we are talking about months not weeks cause in the meantime we have to work on our whitepaper and our website (even if we would like to hire someone for that).
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January 15, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
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Interesting project. There's already DAG with untraceable payments called Byteball, though. Byteball's blackbytes cannot be traced, cauce they're not included in DAG at all. It's cool concept and I think that's the way to achieve the goal of privacy if used via TOR.

It's always nice to see people working with privacy concepts in cryptocurrency, and I think that the zkSNARK' tech is awesome. But implementing such tech to DAG-like systems sounds like a mission.

Another problem is smartphones and light-wallets. We need a currency that has mathematical proof of privacy, but it has to be light enough it can be running in smartphones.

Good luck devs!

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January 15, 2018, 07:34:34 PM
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Interesting project. There's already DAG with untraceable payments called Byteball, though. Byteball's blackbytes cannot be traced, cauce they're not included in DAG at all. It's cool concept and I think that's the way to achieve the goal of privacy if used via TOR.

It's always nice to see people working with privacy concepts in cryptocurrency, and I think that the zkSNARK' tech is awesome. But implementing such tech to DAG-like systems sounds like a mission.

Another problem is smartphones and light-wallets. We need a currency that has mathematical proof of privacy, but it has to be light enough it can be running in smartphones.

Good luck devs!

You perfectly summarize our aim, i would just add that Byteball has fees and and isn't instant, this is the tricky part we are working on.
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January 15, 2018, 08:17:31 PM
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We will be following this project very closely. We have been investors in XRB for the last 7 months and always wanted the holy grail of coins ie. Instant, free and secure. If you pull this off you will be top 10 in MC in less than a year. Good luck!
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January 15, 2018, 09:26:35 PM
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That sounds like the ultimate [Suspicious link removed]d luck to the team
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January 15, 2018, 09:36:55 PM
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Is the same people... Look at the donations part, same coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696095.0


Yes. I guess none of these takes escrow, am I right?

Dev,
Could you please use Escrow rather the Dev wallet
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January 15, 2018, 10:02:43 PM
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Dev,
Could you please use Escrow rather the Dev wallet
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To be honest given the very small amount of donation we received yet, no need to spend time finding a trustable escrow and pay fees for that. Donation are mainly here to make the project kick out and engage people in the community. The dev wallet will be monitored and nothing will be withdrawn without explaining in details the reason. We already mention what we will do with the donations: Rent an office for weekend work together in peaceful environment, pay for a designer and for a good website and buy some hardware as we can see that our regular computer are very limited for testing our approaches. We would be able to make more simulation and stress-test.

Anyway be ready for the results very soon, i think it will be the first time someone will show you transaction time from a simulated network with three approaches to handle privacy.

We hope to have finish our testing tomorrow or Wednesday.
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January 15, 2018, 10:18:43 PM
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Dev,
Could you please use Escrow rather the Dev wallet
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To be honest given the very small amount of donation we received yet, no need to spend time finding a trustable escrow and pay fees for that. Donation are mainly here to make the project kick out and engage people in the community. The dev wallet will be monitored and nothing will be withdrawn without explaining in details the reason. We already mention what we will do with the donations: Rent an office for weekend work together in peaceful environment, pay for a designer and for a good website and buy some hardware as we can see that our regular computer are very limited for testing our approaches. We would be able to make more simulation and stress-test.

Anyway be ready for the results very soon, i think it will be the first time someone will show you transaction time from a simulated network with three approaches to handle privacy.

We hope to have finish our testing tomorrow or Wednesday.

Cannot wait for the results  
Escrow was a way to increase the donation since there are a lot of scam in many other projects
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January 15, 2018, 11:03:04 PM
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Dev,
Could you please use Escrow rather the Dev wallet
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To be honest given the very small amount of donation we received yet, no need to spend time finding a trustable escrow and pay fees for that. Donation are mainly here to make the project kick out and engage people in the community. The dev wallet will be monitored and nothing will be withdrawn without explaining in details the reason. We already mention what we will do with the donations: Rent an office for weekend work together in peaceful environment, pay for a designer and for a good website and buy some hardware as we can see that our regular computer are very limited for testing our approaches. We would be able to make more simulation and stress-test.

Anyway be ready for the results very soon, i think it will be the first time someone will show you transaction time from a simulated network with three approaches to handle privacy.

We hope to have finish our testing tomorrow or Wednesday.

Looks cool. Following closely!
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January 15, 2018, 11:08:26 PM
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projects that seem good, I will probably join your project, but for now I will first see the progress of your project, if it is good later, I will participate in your project
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January 16, 2018, 12:03:09 AM
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Ambitious project. Wish you all the best ! Look forward to donate some. Cheesy
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January 16, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
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For now everyone can be Scam, including Azulik!
So do not hurt until you see some functional code!

If you have some functional code, I want to be a beta tester.
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January 16, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
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This somehow looks more promising than Manta, Paper and Stone...
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January 16, 2018, 03:46:26 PM
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Meet me at my office tomorrow when you come to work, you both fired Cool
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