OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes

[owlcatz]

This thread is a joke.  The "evidence" is not evidence of any wrongdoing of any kind.  There isn't even a victim mentioned in this "ponzi" allegation.  It's quite obvious to anyone who has paid attention over the years that this is nothing more than a delusional attempt by Lauda/TMAN/TwitchySeal to enact some sort of revenge against me for their reputations being ruined as a result of their own shady actions.

And... As always... You have no real rebuttal for your scamming or the numbers above. Do you see those numbers twitchy posted? You now have to refute them with some REAL evidence, don't ya think man? 

You claim you are 100% legit. You claim you file all taxes 100% legit. Prove it...... But, ofc, you will not I'm guessing.

It sure looks like you made off (pun intended) with QUITE a few BTC there, doesn't it? Unless you can refute the evidence, I'm just going to tell everyone I ever meet in BTC-Real-World what a scammer you are, because apparently you are just too chickenshit to ever literally show your Islam style bearded ass up at any real BTC convention, ever. 

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[OgNasty]

There has been no evidence of wrongdoing posted for me to respond to. Only dim witted personal insults and incorrect assumptions.

[TwitchySeal]

There has been no evidence of wrongdoing posted for me to respond to. Only dim witted personal insults and incorrect assumptions.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[owlcatz]

There has been no evidence of wrongdoing posted for me to respond to. Only dim witted personal insults and incorrect assumptions.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Note:

TL:DR - Ognasty ignores the entire thread's evidence and assumes we are all just scammers.

Hey OG- Ponzi scammer - Prove it with maths, or... are you in 5th grade still? ..

Tomorrows post:

Inspecting OGnasty's trust list because it's basically full of scammers!

[ShiftKeyBroken]

the way i see it, ognasty is siphoning "investor" money to himself and continues to do so. am i correct?

[owlcatz]

the way i see it, ognasty is siphoning "investor" money to himself and continues to do so. am i correct?

I take it that way in the past at least, now that I see the long view. You?

[Quickseller]

the way i see it, ognasty is siphoning "investor" money to himself and continues to do so. am i correct?

Which one of the circle jerkers that have made a hobby of extorting people and smearing OgNasty are you? (This doesn’t mention the other shady and scammy behavior you are are involved in).

[TMAN]

There has been no evidence of wrongdoing posted for me to respond to. Only dim witted personal insults and incorrect assumptions.

The passthrough numbers that twitchy posted show that you that you made a profit and your clients lost out. It's clear in the numbers twitchy posted. That's what you need to refute

[ShiftKeyBroken]

the way i see it, ognasty is siphoning "investor" money to himself and continues to do so. am i correct?

Which one of the circle jerkers that have made a hobby of extorting people and smearing OgNasty are you? (This doesn’t mention the other shady and scammy behavior you are are involved in).

wow... i am a new member and you are automatically making dumb assumptions. very sad.

[Quickseller]

i am a new member

When people make a point to say this, more often then not, they are not. There is often a specific reason why they want everyone else to think they are new

[TMAN]

There has been no evidence of wrongdoing posted for me to respond to. Only dim witted personal insults and incorrect assumptions.

The passthrough numbers that twitchy posted show that you that you made a profit and your clients lost out. It's clear in the numbers twitchy posted. That's what you need to refute

Please answer for once

[OgNasty]

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Without some actual accusation of me not paying someone what I should have comes forward, this thread is nonsense and should be locked. Make an allegation of a scam with a victim that received losses, or lock the thread. Pretty simple.

[TMAN]

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Giving me another neg is right up your alley.. keep up with the trust abuse as it doesn't help your case.

Are you saying that every person who took part in your passthrough received back their deposits in full?

[TwitchySeal]

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Without some actual accusation of me not paying someone what I should have comes forward, this thread is nonsense and should be locked. Make an allegation of a scam with a victim that received losses, or lock the thread. Pretty simple.

I haven't accused you of scamming the people that invested in your "BTC Pass-Through" program.

I'm accusing you of lying and making deceptive comments about what really happened after pirateat40 left your investors holding the bag in order to protect/build your rep.  I think that if you had been honest about the whole thing, there's a good chance people wouldn't have trusted you enough to loan you all that Bitcoin for you to send to Butterfly Labs (another massive ponzi scheme) and then offered to create hundreds of seats to your fan club rather than repaying your debt in BTC.

It just doesn't make sense why you would delete all the evidence of exactly how much BTC you had invested with pirateat40, or how many BTC were in the "reserve" fund if "almost everyone" had divested before the scam was confirmed.

It doesn't make sense why you are refusing to share the numbers.

I believe you are lying.

[owlcatz]

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Without some actual accusation of me not paying someone what I should have comes forward, this thread is nonsense and should be locked. Make an allegation of a scam with a victim that received losses, or lock the thread. Pretty simple.

I haven't accused you of scamming the people that invested in your "BTC Pass-Through" program.

I'm accusing you of lying and making deceptive comments about what really happened after pirateat40 left your investors holding the bag in order to protect/build your rep.  I think that if you had been honest about the whole thing, there's a good chance people wouldn't have trusted you enough to loan you all that Bitcoin for you to send to Butterfly Labs (another massive ponzi scheme) and then offered to create hundreds of seats to your fan club rather than repaying your debt in BTC.

It just doesn't make sense why you would delete all the evidence of exactly how much BTC you had invested with pirateat40, or how many BTC were in the "reserve" fund if "almost everyone" had divested before the scam was confirmed.

It doesn't make sense why you are refusing to share the numbers.

I believe you are lying.

That's what narcissists do. They live in their own little world and anything they don't like to hear or believe is "Fake News"... Let's see here:

Bullying
Lying
Abusing Position for personal gain (The threat of a neg by OgNasty scares most if not all users to speak out publicly. Can't tell you how many PM's I got thanking me in privnote lol).
Conspiring with Quickscammer to diddle the trust network using Tomatoface's account to try and remove people he doesn't like from DT2 (Zepher).   Next I'm going to go through everyone on his trust list and examine why everyone is there and why people are negged exactly.
Refusal to ever admit wrongdoing

Etc, etc....

C'mon Og, gimme a neg, i'll take another for the team of HONEST users here for them thinking you are a scammer but afraid to speak out because you ruin accounts with trust abuse. 

[TMAN]

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Without some actual accusation of me not paying someone what I should have comes forward, this thread is nonsense and should be locked. Make an allegation of a scam with a victim that received losses, or lock the thread. Pretty simple.

Changing posts again?? So slippery so so slippery.

Why on earth would you delete messages then alter others after posting if you had nothing to hide?

I guess as you refuse to answer and refuse to discuss your arest record then we will have to go to the next stage which will be an investigations thread.

[ShiftKeyBroken]

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Without some actual accusation of me not paying someone what I should have comes forward, this thread is nonsense and should be locked. Make an allegation of a scam with a victim that received losses, or lock the thread. Pretty simple.

actually, that's a good point. @tman and gang, is there any witness who has lost money and has a complaint or scam report?

[TwitchySeal]

Most of my accusations have claimed that the whole "BTC Passthrough" program that OgNasty ran took place in 2012 (April 2012 - August 2012)  This was an honest mistake, they actually all took place in 2012 (April 2012 - August 2012)

I saw no losses being alleged. Only a list of people I made payouts to before they withdrew their entire balance. If you are trying to say all those users on the list didn’t get their entire deposit back, quit beating around the bush and say it so I can give you another negative for spreading lies.

Without some actual accusation of me not paying someone what I should have comes forward, this thread is nonsense and should be locked. Make an allegation of a scam with a victim that received losses, or lock the thread. Pretty simple.

actually, that's a good point. @tman and gang, is there any witness who has lost money and has a complaint or scam report?

See my response above.

We do have a witness, OgNasty himself.  But he's resorted to deflection and insults rather than giving any direct answers to very reasonable questions - 1) How many BTC did pirateat40 steal from OgNastys investors?  2) How many BTC were in the reserve fund that OgNasty had established (and paid out)

Why would OgNasty refuse to answer these questions?

Even if he's right about me being a dimwit extortionist liar that's insignificant to the Bitcoin community...so what?

Edit: I had the year listed as 2011, it was actually 2012.

[TMAN]

Why would OgNasty refuse to answer these questions?

Even if he's right about me being a dimwit extortionist liar that's insignificant to the Bitcoin community...so what?

The bold is the interesting part - why does he continue to deflect ?
 
another interesting thread regarding OG promoting a very bad business

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1582065.0

for those who havent read it all I would take the time to look @ OG's stance on this - also can anyone else see his persecution complex coming into play?

[suchmoon]

I find it HIGHLY ironic that OGnasty has EXCLUDED well know scam-busting users, like Cryptodevil and Suchmoon.

It's your fault Owlz...  (/ssssss)

The only place where I ever crossed paths with the mighty Og in a less-than-cordial way was when I posted a positive trust for you. That guy is like three-degrees-of-separation-angry.

Not sure what cryptodevil did to him. Maybe just the "devil" in the name is enough to set Og off.