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December 07, 2013, 10:44:20 PM
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According to the public ledger on LMB Holdings 4950 shares have been sold. Wow, there is a long way to go...

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December 07, 2013, 11:33:19 PM
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It is ironic that NeoBee was built to be 'different'... yet this Ukyo mess, here we are back in typical banking territory. Shady back door dealings, secrets, and its very own brand of bailout.
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December 08, 2013, 01:11:37 AM
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It is ironic that NeoBee was built to be 'different'... yet this Ukyo mess, here we are back in typical banking territory. Shady back door dealings, secrets, and its very own brand of bailout.

Yeah, you're totally right. I'm sure most people with coins tied up would rather leave it in the hands of one guy rather than have the assistance of an established company with a high reputation.

Now this is the part where you say they should be able to disclose everything about what's going on regardless of any legally-binding paperwork they have hanging over their heads. I mean, it's not like violating signed contracts has any real world consequences...  Roll Eyes
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December 08, 2013, 03:27:44 AM
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No to austerity but yes to bitcoin is about as smart as this venture of combining fiat accounts, merchant services, payment cards and bitcoins not held by investors or depositors.  LOL good luck to you all.

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December 08, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
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http://www.cytoday.eu/index.php?id=357&nid=2629412

You will need to translate the article.

So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it. Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.
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December 08, 2013, 11:42:58 AM
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So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it.

If bitcoin has a chance anywhere in the world at the moment, Cyprus is its best shot. Wish I could be on the ground when this hopefully starts gathering steam.

Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863522#msg3863522
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December 08, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
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It is ironic that NeoBee was built to be 'different'... yet this Ukyo mess, here we are back in typical banking territory. Shady back door dealings, secrets, and its very own brand of bailout.

Yeah, you're totally right. I'm sure most people with coins tied up would rather leave it in the hands of one guy rather than have the assistance of an established company with a high reputation.

Now this is the part where you say they should be able to disclose everything about what's going on regardless of any legally-binding paperwork they have hanging over their heads. I mean, it's not like violating signed contracts has any real world consequences...  Roll Eyes

Did NeoBee mention "signed contracts," or did you simply imagine them to help out with your sarcasm?
BTW, as bad as it is, my bank never made me promises that it didn't keep.  That's simply a horrible business practice, regardless of the ethical implications.
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December 08, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
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So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it.

If bitcoin has a chance anywhere in the world at the moment, Cyprus is its best shot. Wish I could be on the ground when this hopefully starts gathering steam.

Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863522#msg3863522

Except from the "new" obvious information that the bitcoins are gone, no new information. I tought there were going to be information regarding what happened, what is being done, and the most important, numbers.
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December 08, 2013, 12:15:41 PM
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So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it.

If bitcoin has a chance anywhere in the world at the moment, Cyprus is its best shot. Wish I could be on the ground when this hopefully starts gathering steam.

Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863522#msg3863522

Except from the "new" obvious information that the bitcoins are gone, no new information. I tought there were going to be information regarding what happened, what is being done, and the most important, numbers.

There will also be the distribution of the Bitcoins that are available to people by this coming Friday.

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December 08, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
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So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it.

If bitcoin has a chance anywhere in the world at the moment, Cyprus is its best shot. Wish I could be on the ground when this hopefully starts gathering steam.

Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3863522#msg3863522

Except from the "new" obvious information that the bitcoins are gone, no new information. I tought there were going to be information regarding what happened, what is being done, and the most important, numbers.

There will also be the distribution of the Bitcoins that are available to people by this coming Friday.

Obviously, people read what they want to read.
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December 08, 2013, 02:16:10 PM
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There will also be the distribution of the Bitcoins that are available to people by this coming Friday.

The questions is, if "the bitcoins are not simply there", then from where(?) should Weexchange users receive their BTCs?
But if it is not hurting NEOBEE, and its not shareholders BTCs I dont care... you mentioned in past that this involvement with Ukyo case will benefit NEOBEE, so now I am really curious what master-plan you guys figured out Wink

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December 08, 2013, 02:22:53 PM
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There will also be the distribution of the Bitcoins that are available to people by this coming Friday.

The questions is, if "the bitcoins are not simply there", then from where(?) should Weexchange users receive their BTCs?
But if it is not hurting NEOBEE, and its not shareholders BTCs I dont care... you mentioned in past that this involvement with Ukyo case will benefit NEOBEE, so now I am really curious what master-plan you guys figured out Wink

If "the bitcoins are simply not there," then they're not available.  Available bitcoins will be distributed on Friday.  Since they don't exist, the task will be quick & effortless.

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December 08, 2013, 02:26:48 PM
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Danny, we need a better explanation of what is happening with BF/WeEx.  Many shareholders are concerned about your involvement and the "solution", as you say there are no bitcoins at BF/WeEx, but then you claim people will be getting their money back.

I agree with this sentiment, as a shareholder.  I want Neo & team to be working on ways to earn me profit.  As far as I'm concerned, if we are not profiting from the BF/WeEx deal, Danny shouldn't waste his time with it.

To me it looks like Neo shareholders are not really getting anything out of this.  Maybe Danny can clear up that point, what do we get out of it (financially speaking). I don't care about the public perception of bitcoin in regards to a failed exchange, and if that's the reward, then it certainly isn't worth Neo's time and effort.

At the end of the day, the best way to shore up the trustworthiness of Bitcoin is not through BF bailouts, it's through a successful Neo operation.

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December 08, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
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At the end of the day, the best way to shore up the trustworthiness of Bitcoin is not through BF bailouts, it's through a successful Neo operation.

I totally agree. And should the BF bailout add anything to the success of Neo, it just has to be better presented to us shareholders.
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December 08, 2013, 03:04:38 PM
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At the end of the day, the best way to shore up the trustworthiness of Bitcoin is not through BF bailouts, it's through a successful Neo operation.

I totally agree. And if the BF bailout adds anything to the success of Neo, it just has to be better presented to us shareholders.
yeah, I'm disappointed in the communication from Danny on this issue.  I think the majority of shareholders have been more than patient, and we have been promised a proper explanation, but have yet to receive it.  It's time to show the money behind this operation how getting involved with a toxic asset is going to benefit us.

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December 08, 2013, 03:09:42 PM
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To me it looks like Neo shareholders are not really getting anything out of this.  Maybe Danny can clear up that point, what do we get out of it (financially speaking). I don't care about the public perception of bitcoin in regards to a failed exchange, and if that's the reward, then it certainly isn't worth Neo's time and effort.

You should look at things with a wider perspective then.
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December 08, 2013, 03:47:07 PM
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You should look at things with a wider perspective then.

I didn't invest with perspective, I invested with money.

Success of NeoBee will do far more for the reputation of Bitcoin that a BF bailout will.  That's what Danny should focus on, and that's what we, as shareholders, paid for. 

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December 08, 2013, 04:16:11 PM
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As for myself I invested in Neo & Bee thinking that this was good for Bitcoin and want its success more than actually profiting. Its success will also be probably a factor of future bitcoin price increases.
I still fail to understand what is going on now. Unless by wider perspective you mean goatse.

I see the benefits mainly as:

1.) You get people their money back. This has wider implications on the reputation of bitcoin-related ventures going forward.

2.) The positive press would be beneficial for Neo & Bee and used as a evidence of credibility.
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December 08, 2013, 04:23:11 PM
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As for myself I invested in Neo & Bee thinking that this was good for Bitcoin and want its success more than actually profiting. Its success will also be probably a factor of future bitcoin price increases.
I still fail to understand what is going on now. Unless by wider perspective you mean goatse.

I see the benefits mainly as:

1.) You get people their money back. This has wider implications on the reputation of bitcoin-related ventures going forward.

2.) The positive press would be beneficial for Neo & Bee and used as a evidence of credibility.


The bank bailout was awesome PR for the Treasury.  Won you over, huh?
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