[PRE-SALE][ICO] Petro $PTR - Oil backed crypto currency launched by Venezuela

[LUCKMCFLY]

I see that many times developers defend themselves as they can from all the accusations against Petro, but this is because they do not know how to explain many things, what is most of all is that Petro is not well seen, everything is a mystery, exchanges, development team, Venezuelans do not have 1000 Euros to buy Petros, the truth is crazy all this, the lack of seriousness is what makes you look very bad.

[cryptoviagra]

@LUCKMCFLY I totally agree with you, Moderator is hiding now...smh

[cryptoviagra]

SCAM ALERT,SCAM ALERT,SCAM ALERT         http://elpetro.ga/

[taseenb]

Spotted this article calling out some basic mistake on amount raised.   Anyone else seen the $5bn claim stated ?

Sure, and often. Maduro made the claim for the first time on 9th of March:

Interestingly on 22nd of March he repeated the statement and claimed more precisely that 200.927 million offers totaling $5.025.181.787,54 were made during the whole presale.

That's obviously false like most of the stuff you post.
Pre-sale was based on offers as everybody knows and Maduro kept saying that they were receiving offers: never said that was the amount raised (the media did).
Maduro never said "200.927 million": that's another ridiculous lie. He could have said "200 thousands" and stg.

[taseenb]

Do you ever been in Venezuela? Who told you all that? Or where did you heard it, from RT or Telesur?

Yes. Those are simply basic facts, in contrast with hate propaganda.

[taseenb]

Euro account for payments

I don't think they will change the account for payments in Euros to an European account. Switzerland has applied "sanctions" to Venezuela yesterday and this completes the whole US/EU mafia. Venezuelan officials obviously know that. Therefore it is unlikely that Venezuela will risk to keep any more money in any western European bank, after losing billions of dollars in US bank accounts.

The payments in euros must be done directly to a Russian account: in this case a European bank (German) will function as intermediary for the transaction but the destination account is Russian.
A better alternative is to pay in crypto. That's what they should be used for.

[cryptoviagra]

CLOWNS/AMATEURS/LIARS.....You was blaiming me for buying it too early ,now are you gonna pay with crypto, because you also said that we will supposedly get our coins at the end of ICO but it is clearly wiritten that we was suppose to receive our coins once they receive the payment but till today I never received anything, I'm currious to see how you gonna try to deffend your favorite government... 🤡

[coinve]

SCAM ALERT,SCAM ALERT,SCAM ALERT         http://elpetro.ga/

that link is scam.

A better alternative is to pay in crypto. That's what they should be used for.

like i said. pay with a crypto, done.
everything else is just whining and crying like a little baby.

[cryptoviagra]

Dude ain't no crying over here, I invested $5000 4 days ago, they did not confirm my payment, I am here to expose the incompetence...stop trying to cover the bullshit the Venezuelan government is doing!!!! Did you invest??? If no remain quiet and stay in your lane....

[coinve]

Dude ain't no crying over here, I invested $5000 4 days ago, they did not confirm my payment, I am here to expose the incompetence...stop trying to cover the bullshit the Venezuelan government is doing!!!! Did you invest??? If no remain quiet and stay in your lane....

how can we know if what you're saying is true?
how did you pay with american dollars? it wasn't banned?
is it normal send that amount of money without any extra security measures?
your bank doesn't tell you anything? "yep, we send it and the other bank received it"

like i said, holy week 2018.
wait until next monday.

[cryptoviagra]

Man now I'm a liar....stop it,anyway good luck to everybody

[happyminer1]

Spotted this article calling out some basic mistake on amount raised.   Anyone else seen the $5bn claim stated ?

Sure, and often. Maduro made the claim for the first time on 9th of March:

Interestingly on 22nd of March he repeated the statement and claimed more precisely that 200.927 million offers totaling $5.025.181.787,54 were made during the whole presale.

That's obviously false like most of the stuff you post.
Pre-sale was based on offers as everybody knows and Maduro kept saying that they were receiving offers: never said that was the amount raised (the media did).
Maduro never said "200.927 million": that's another ridiculous lie. He could have said "200 thousands" and stg.

The "200.927 million offers" was indeed my mistake, I wrote my post in a rush. Thanks for the correction. It were 200.927 offers. I corrected it in my original post.

As to the point that it were offers and not the amount raised: I already said that he was speaking about offers. (And if you read my other posts I always insisted on that point.) Part of the media treating it as amount actually raised are the Venezuelan state media. The presidential press office quoted Maduro in the following way:

"We have more than 5 billion dollars in our hands, in only one month of the presale of the petro, which is part of the path of the economic solutions from now and into the future", underlined President @NicolasMaduro

People are to be forgiven if they understood that to mean that the amount was actually raised. Non-binding offers are no money in your hands.

Spanish:

“Tenemos más de 5 mil millones de dólares en las manos, en apenas un mes de la preventa del Petro, el cual es parte del camino de las soluciones económicas de aquí y hasta el futuro“, subrayó el Pdte @NicolasMaduro

[taseenb]

People are to be forgiven if they understood that to mean that the amount was actually raised. Non-binding offers are no money in your hands.

Spanish:

“Tenemos más de 5 mil millones de dólares en las manos, en apenas un mes de la preventa del Petro, el cual es parte del camino de las soluciones económicas de aquí y hasta el futuro“, subrayó el Pdte @NicolasMaduro

It's possible that in the 20 times he said that, he used that expression, but in the context that he's always defined as a pre-sale based on offers.
Anyway, this kind of discussion is useless and ridiculous, as you well know.

What's important is if the ICO rises enough money to support the development and expansion of Petro and this eventually helps the Venezuelan economy.

[taseenb]

Dude ain't no crying over here, I invested $5000 4 days ago, they did not confirm my payment, I am here to expose the incompetence...stop trying to cover the bullshit the Venezuelan government is doing!!!! Did you invest??? If no remain quiet and stay in your lane....

The troll is an idiot or a liar.

The guy invests 5K in something he considers a fraud. Imagine that.

[cryptoviagra]

Alot of hopes from but did you invest yet ?

[cryptoviagra]

Dude ain't no crying over here, I invested $5000 4 days ago, they did not confirm my payment, I am here to expose the incompetence...stop trying to cover the bullshit the Venezuelan government is doing!!!! Did you invest??? If no remain quiet and stay in your lane....

The troll is an idiot or a liar.

The guy invests 5K in something he considers a fraud. Imagine that.

The troll crushed your ass so many times with facts...you're a pure dumb ignorant....talking like you love Venezuela but refuse to invest...you're a poison for a country like Venezuela

[taseenb]

I am waiting for ETH to go up a bit as it is in a 5 months low now. Paying with fiat is easier because you know exactly the total (apart from the discount).

Depending on how the market goes in the next days or couple of weeks, I'll decide. But yeah, I'll definitely buy.

For those who don't have crypto, the moment is perfect because ETH is soooo cheap. With a bit of luck one could make quick profits buying Petros this week or next.

[cryptoviagra]

Dude ain't no crying over here, I invested $5000 4 days ago, they did not confirm my payment, I am here to expose the incompetence...stop trying to cover the bullshit the Venezuelan government is doing!!!! Did you invest??? If no remain quiet and stay in your lane....

The troll is an idiot or a liar.

The guy invests 5K in something he considers a fraud. Imagine that.

The troll crushed your ass so many times with facts...you're a pure dumb ignorant....talking like you love Venezuela but refuse to invest...you're a poison for a country like Venezuela

Lol let me shut u up once again will send you now on Twitter the amount I sent, and I never said it was a fraud I said that I was disapointed and that the government is incompetent which is totally different...you're the idiot begging officials like they will listen to you....dummy...tell everybody if I'm a liar or not it is sent to your twitter

[taseenb]

Lol let me shut u up once again will send you now on Twitter the amount I sent, and I never said it was a fraud I said that I was disapointed and that the government is incompetent which is totally different...you're the idiot begging officials like they will listen to you....dummy...tell everybody if I'm a liar or not it is sent to your twitter

Ok, it's confirmed you're both.

[taseenb]

I haven't see Yuan and Turkish Lira in the form... 

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