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Author Topic: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit)  (Read 565621 times)
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February 18, 2014, 11:26:42 PM
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Five days ago Cointerra made it absolutely clear that they had sent all machines form batch 1 (http://cointerra.com/update-production-news-latest-firmware-user-guide-posted/). So, we should receive all of them (30) during this week.

Position of Bitmine is a bit puzzling as of now. Let's hope they deliver before end of February.

Cryptx posted last week that bitmine would be arriving this week.
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February 18, 2014, 11:54:51 PM
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Five days ago Cointerra made it absolutely clear that they had sent all machines form batch 1 (http://cointerra.com/update-production-news-latest-firmware-user-guide-posted/). So, we should receive all of them (30) during this week.

Position of Bitmine is a bit puzzling as of now. Let's hope they deliver before end of February.

Cryptx posted last week that bitmine would be arriving this week.

Ha ha. Maybe in March arrive, or the case in court. Bitmine begins to be a scammer

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February 19, 2014, 12:10:57 AM
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Ha ha. Maybe in March arrive, or the case in court. Bitmine begins to be a scammer

Bitmine looks legit. You look like a troll.
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February 19, 2014, 12:30:09 AM
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Ha ha. Maybe in March arrive, or the case in court. Bitmine begins to be a scammer

Bitmine looks legit. You look like a troll.
trolls are like mogwai. If you feed them they morph into more evil creatures.
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February 19, 2014, 12:52:36 AM
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bitmine.ch is real, a friend of a friend of mine is waiting for a few units for his farm and he personally visited bitmine in switzerland to reassure himself
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February 19, 2014, 01:02:08 AM
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Ha ha. Maybe in March arrive, or the case in court. Bitmine begins to be a scammer

Bitmine looks legit. You look like a troll.
trolls are like mogwai. If you feed them they morph into more evil creatures.

It's not after midnight.
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February 19, 2014, 01:10:50 AM
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Ha ha. Maybe in March arrive, or the case in court. Bitmine begins to be a scammer

Bitmine looks legit. You look like a troll.
trolls are like mogwai. If you feed them they morph into more evil creatures.

It's not after midnight.
It's always after midnight.
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February 19, 2014, 02:59:38 AM
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Running some #s in regard to PE and the difficulty curve.

I am not sure about the ipo shares they pulled so I will post 2 different outcomes on Earnings per share.
Here are the basics, 600$/btc 6$/GHS for reinvestment. 20% increase every 11 days. I like a few others in here know that its mathematically improbable for the difficulty to keep climbing at 15-20% for any length of time. But, I based the math on this as a fixed point going forward so its likely things will be better than my #s say they will. I also have the reinvestment based on 11 days because its late and I am not in the mood to alter my spreadsheet to account for the difference in dividend payouts and diff adjustments.
Oh, and I also am not accounting for the management/power fees, etc. Nor did I account for the drop in $/GHS.

Now on to the #s.
Based on 100,000shares and the mine starting @ 220ths on march 1st.
358 days from now the mine will have produced 2266.216BTC @ 600$ is 1.36Million$ And EPS of 0.02266btc

If they base dividends on the 80674 outstanding shares, then the EPS becomes 0.02809btc
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February 19, 2014, 08:14:50 AM
Last edit: February 19, 2014, 09:47:03 AM by ujka
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Your projections are only for 220th mine, without any reinvestment going on?
Then yes, we can put that numbers in any calc, and get around 2200 btc.

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=3129573175&dcosts=0&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=220000000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.5&btcusd=600&dpowcon=0.0&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0.0&calcweeks=27&dleadtime=1&action=calc
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February 19, 2014, 09:45:56 AM
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I taught I'm missing something in your post, rdyoung, so I read it again. You are calculating in reinvestments, at $6/gh, and still numbers do not differ much from the case with no reinvestment.
That's telling me that at continous 20% network increase, and $6/gh for new hardware, it has no big effect on earnings. Petamine will be falling too much behind total network hashrate too fast.
Hope is, that network will not increase at 20% for long time, and hardware price will be lower.
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February 19, 2014, 11:31:46 AM
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PETA share price on havelock is really undervalued at this point, considering all the hardware coming in next few days/weeks.
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February 19, 2014, 11:34:02 AM
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someone dumped 330 shares in a row, just after another ~100shares dump (done 10 by 10)  Shocked

time to buy Roll Eyes

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February 19, 2014, 11:38:01 AM
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someone dumped 330 shares in a row, just after another ~100shares dump (done 10 by 10)  Shocked

time to buy Roll Eyes

Wish I had coins to invest right now Sad
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February 19, 2014, 11:44:50 AM
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Yes someone just bought 330 shares per 0.055
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February 19, 2014, 11:49:02 AM
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someone dumped 330 shares in a row, just after another ~100shares dump (done 10 by 10)  Shocked

time to buy Roll Eyes



what a shortsighted move.  Roll Eyes maybe had bills to pay.  They will regret it later.
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February 19, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
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will S some D for BTC just to invest in PETA
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February 19, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
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someone dumped 330 shares in a row, just after another ~100shares dump (done 10 by 10)  Shocked

time to buy Roll Eyes



heh I bet all these future profit calculations influenced it ( someone didn't like the numbers )

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February 19, 2014, 11:58:50 AM
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someone dumped 330 shares in a row, just after another ~100shares dump (done 10 by 10)  Shocked

time to buy Roll Eyes



heh I bet all these future profit calculations influenced it ( someone didn't like the numbers )

maybe they are gonna jump ship to AM with a 3.6% annual yield instead  Grin
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February 19, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
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will S some D for BTC just to invest in PETA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWJd3w3QPs
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February 19, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2014, 03:55:22 PM by trek27
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One more try on possible future valuation. I will use different approach - comparison with peers.
At the beginning I want to say that I had some trouble to find really comparable and publicly listed operations. For example there are several mining operations listed on Havelock - COG, HMF, KCIM - but each of them seems to be different in a meaningful way from Peta. HMF and KCIM are much, much smaller (by a factor of 20-40). In the case of COG it seems that the person who runs it does a lot of things that lead to a loss of credibility - which I hope won't be the case of Peta.

There are, of course, operations of 'hosting' and 'mining contract' type - but these having completely different model do not fix our purpose.

To chose peers I started with the following assumption: Peta has a good chance to be perceived by the market as a high profile operation. So I searched for listed operations with very good opinion.
I also searched for ventures with reinvestment strategy - this eliminates for example Picostocs' 500TH.
Stellar reputation and reinvestment requirements left me with: GMP (Cryptostocks), HMF (Havelock) and KCIM (Havelock). All of them much smaller but having good reputation and similar model.
To quantify this comparison I will use the price of Ghs we pay when buying shares. All ventures wait for new 28nm equipment and expect jump in hash power by March 2014.
Why all three could give a hint of FUTURE valuation of PETA? - 1) all three didn't sell their equipment in November 2013 so they have been paying dividends all the time. Which puts them well into the frame of running operation with reinvestment 2) their reputation is already very well established and the market sees practically no operational risk.

Comparison:

GMP - 0,09btc/Ghs
KCIM - 0,065btc/Ghs
HMF - 0,085btc/Ghs

PETA just after deployment: 240 -340Th, 80675 shares,  2,88-3,45 Ghs/share which leads to a price in the range of 0,185-0,32.

These results don't diverge much from (partial quote):
If we use that yield to be 33% of the share price, that gives 0.27 btc/share
25% -- 0.36 btc/share

And are more optimistic than those (partial quote):
If they base dividends on the 80674 outstanding shares, then the EPS becomes 0.02809btc


Further into the future?
1) Market valuation per Ghs will most probably decline in time (consequence of rising difficulty)
2) Smartness of reinvestment enters in full importance - CryptX's simulations show that Ghs/share could be well above 10 at the end of the year.

Please, don't treat this estimation too seriously. It's just a shot. And there are a lot of IF's  Wink 




   
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