pleiotropik
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March 25, 2014, 12:47:32 AM |
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I like this thread. It's like an eternal stockholder's call.
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Every time a block is mined, a certain amount of BTC (called the
subsidy) is created out of thin air and given to the miner. The
subsidy halves every four years and will reach 0 in about 130 years.
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EdoBcn
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March 25, 2014, 07:59:27 AM |
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Any word on Peta striking out on it's own? With the exception of yesterday, Peta has been finding a block a day which is better than the current payout per day on Eligius.
Is there anything we gain from Eligius other than a nice UI and the potential continued payout when the Peta miners are unlucky?
If Peta had been mining on it's own it would have pulled down 150 BTC in the past week versus the ~100 BTC paid out by Eligius.
Wow, 50% more a week... We just need a developer to create a nice UI... (that we don't really need that much, do we?). If the above is true (no reason to doubt you! ) what are we waiting for?
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ujka
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March 25, 2014, 08:38:36 AM |
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Any word on Peta striking out on it's own? With the exception of yesterday, Peta has been finding a block a day which is better than the current payout per day on Eligius.
Is there anything we gain from Eligius other than a nice UI and the potential continued payout when the Peta miners are unlucky?
If Peta had been mining on it's own it would have pulled down 150 BTC in the past week versus the ~100 BTC paid out by Eligius.
Wow, 50% more a week... We just need a developer to create a nice UI... (that we don't really need that much, do we?). If the above is true (no reason to doubt you! ) what are we waiting for? PETA was pretty lucky finding blocks last two weeks - a block per day. If we calculate expected average time to find a block based on PETA hashrate and difficulty, it was about a block every TWO days. So, very lucky weeks. But, can we risk/bet such a luck will continue? date block luck% 1 21.02.2014 287019 168 2 23.02.2014 287400 72 3 25.02.2014 287788 580 4 12.03.2014 290225 96 5 13.03.2014 290426 458 6 13.03.2014 290456 38 7 16.03.2014 290845 36 8 17.03.2014 291021 103 9 18.03.2014 291188 3078 10 19.03.2014 291295 52 11 20.03.2014 291414 267 12 21.03.2014 291615 168 13 21.03.2014 291631 207 14 22.03.2014 291836 535 15 24.03.2014 292281 117 16 25.03.2014 292329 452
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trek27
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March 25, 2014, 10:50:26 AM |
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Recently we had some lucky time - that's all.
Believing that in the long run PETA-MINE could be more lucky than the others is IMO simply delusional.
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mikemikemike
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March 25, 2014, 10:58:06 AM |
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Recently we had some lucky time - that's all.
Believing that in the long run PETA-MINE could be more lucky than the others is IMO simply delusional.
+1 +2 +3 on another note, anyone noticed we are hashing at 10TH/S less than yesterday? seems we are having problems with some of the machines. can CryptX give an update?
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stompysteve
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March 25, 2014, 12:31:19 PM |
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Recently we had some lucky time - that's all.
Believing that in the long run PETA-MINE could be more lucky than the others is IMO simply delusional.
I dont think we are at high enough hashrate to go solo yet, maybe if we had 250TH right now I would vote yes
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rdyoung
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March 25, 2014, 04:28:58 PM |
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Recently we had some lucky time - that's all.
Believing that in the long run PETA-MINE could be more lucky than the others is IMO simply delusional.
I dont think we are at high enough hashrate to go solo yet, maybe if we had 250TH right now I would vote yes I would wait until we have 1%+ of the network. No need to go solo if we aren't solving at least a couple of blocks a day.
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ujka
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March 25, 2014, 04:38:48 PM |
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Today again - new hardware hashing!
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stompysteve
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March 25, 2014, 04:53:00 PM |
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Today again - new hardware hashing! 12 hours 132.47 Th/s 1332397984 3 hours 141.17 Th/s 354985984 22.5 minutes 150.22 Th/s 47218000 256 seconds 154.26 Th/s 9194667 128 seconds 154.77 Th/s 4612526
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March 25, 2014, 08:15:00 PM |
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I'd be perfectly fine with a new hardware addition every day. We're currently sitting at close to 0.4% of the network.
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Developer, entrepreneur, idea-seeker. BTC: 14MP75VG3Nf53pSEjowmA9gVPVvEvNpabz
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howardb
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March 25, 2014, 09:09:46 PM |
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This is the most important part. Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure. If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.
Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty! Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you! How is it disingenuous? Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell. You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument. I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges.
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rdyoung
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March 25, 2014, 10:25:15 PM |
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This is the most important part. Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure. If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.
Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty! Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you! How is it disingenuous? Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell. You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument. I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges. No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance. I never said that the share price was a sure thing. What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid. BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced. You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape.
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Well hello there!
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March 26, 2014, 02:37:09 AM |
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Bring on the hash baby!!
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Gimme the crypto!!
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March 26, 2014, 03:59:00 AM |
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So we are now in week 13, and we are starting to deploy week 10's 55 Coincraft rigs. A little delay I should say. Meanwhile it's about the time to deploy 250 TH/s custom hardware which should happen in week 13~15. If all these Coincraft rigs and custom hardware deployment happen in these 3 weeks, PETA' hashrate would be explosively growth. Though it only happens in a very optimistic way.
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howardb
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March 26, 2014, 05:33:54 AM |
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This is the most important part. Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure. If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.
Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty! Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you! How is it disingenuous? Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell. You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument. I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges. No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance. I never said that the share price was a sure thing. What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid. BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced. You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape. You sound just like the type that flog bad investments to vulnerable people from boilerrooms. "it is likely that the price will stay steady" gives you away for the idiot or miscreant you are.
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mikemikemike
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March 26, 2014, 11:59:48 AM |
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This is the most important part. Owning shares in Peta is akin to owning ghs on the exchanges that sell them, except Peta will reinvest on your behalf and you can still cash out at your leisure. If you bought 1 share and then sold after dividends were paid you cashed out with a positive roi, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.
Only true if the asset values do not go down because re-investment did not keep up with BTC difficulty! Suggesting to people they cannot lose assumes the share price won't go down, which it obviously will if the above happens! Somewhat disengenuous of you! How is it disingenuous? Your assuming that a lot of shares will be dumped after dividends, a bad assumption on your part. As long as the dividends are steady or slightly increasing more will hold than will sell. You obviously missed my point entirely and are just looking for an argument. I refuse to argue with anyone that would try to argue Petamine share price is a "sure thing". Makes you either stupid or deliberately misleading. If you were a stockbroker you would be facing mis-selling charges. No you refuse to allow logic and commonsense invade your cognitive dissonance. I never said that the share price was a sure thing. What I said was it was a bad assumption on your part to assume a severe drop in price right after dividends have been paid. BIG BIG Difference. It is obvious that you have no clue how stocks and other commodities are priced. You have take many many factors into account when your dealing with investments, and with vehicles such as petamine that pay a dividend, it is likely that the price will stay steady, outside of the bots screwing with the price, or someone intentionally painting the tape. You sound just like the type that flog bad investments to vulnerable people from boilerrooms. "it is likely that the price will stay steady" gives you away for the idiot or miscreant you are. whatever you think about him personally doesn't make up for the fact he is 100% correct. People arn't going to sell there shares just because the dividend has been paid; on the contrary, if we keep increasing dividends per week the share price should bubble up soon before settling down at a level much higher than it is currently -protip from a very successful daytrader
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stompysteve
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March 26, 2014, 07:46:38 PM |
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12 hours 146.52 Th/s 1473702032 3 hours 151.93 Th/s 382040720 22.5 minutes 150.64 Th/s 47350752 256 seconds 157.40 Th/s 9381985 128 seconds 174.61 Th/s 5203883
hashrate keeps pumping upto 174 then back down to 138 or so??
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After Economics: Learning is just the first step.
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March 26, 2014, 08:00:16 PM |
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whatever you think about him personally doesn't make up for the fact he is 100% correct. People arn't going to sell there shares just because the dividend has been paid; on the contrary, if we keep increasing dividends per week the share price should bubble up soon before settling down at a level much higher than it is currently
-protip from a very successful daytrader
+1 and protip verified.
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MonkeyBear68
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March 26, 2014, 10:17:36 PM |
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Those that are hyper-fixated on the price of a share of PETA and that fact that it is too low, and that it should go up etc. should stop trying to convince others to buy more shares and perhaps buy some shares yourselves. If your assessment tells you the current price is such a bargain then it would be foolish not to. As a minimum you could put some large orders to buy shares on the Bid side; there is no depth on the Bid side if you look on Havelock: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=PETAYou all are making it patently obvious that you wish the price to go up so that you can unload shares and get all your dividends at once. Personally I do not care what the price of a share of PETA is as I believe that CryptX is doing an excellent job, and that I will get my value back through the dividends as time goes on. If there was more depth on the Bid side that would encourage me and others to buy more shares from the Ask side. Common guys put your money where your mouth is.
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March 27, 2014, 02:41:51 AM |
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So is this an eternal loop kinda thing where the price of shares goes up towards Friday and drops down during the weekend?
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