Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now!

[jrose120]

You understood, I tend to use the term ROI to mean more than its literal meaning. I've gotten lazy from reading these forums. The pressure on the market to buy up all of these coins that miners must sell in order to pay the electric bill, rent, etc... The outlook for cryptos in general doesn't look good. Wish I could say otherwise. It could be years after the bubble collapses and a large portion of the miners leave the network. It could have a resurgence, but only if the difficulty bottoms out or the price skyrockets. Neither one seems likely, so it's going to be a tough ride if your playing by the rules. Hence Alpha-T and there crafty schemes. If they hadn't planned on milking your miners for as much as possible, I'm sure they are trying to figure out a way to do it now. They will claim to be "testing" your hardware until the rigs are worthless due to the difficulty rise.

[jrose120]

Can't see one scenario in which they do anything to come close to make their customers whole through legitimately purchasing their hardware. They wipe their ass with customers, why would they stop now?

[penner42]

Got this card in the mail today. If you paid by credit card, and haven't opened a dispute, definitely do it sooner rather than later! It was past the time for me to start the dispute online, but a simple message to them made it happen. I immediately got the temporary credit. Alpha replied to them close to the 45 day mark when it would have been permanent and said it was still within the time frame for them to deliver (a blatant lie). Chase asked me for some documents... I sent the original terms of order, the email from March 19th showing shipping date in July, the one from March 27th removing PayPal as an option, the one from May 21st requesting final payment (which I had no way to complete as PayPal was gone), the email July 28th saying delivery in September, and the one from Sept 27th saying delivery in October. I pointed out that the terms said shipping 8-10 weeks after final payment, which they requested May 21. That would have put the shipping date July 31. I sent this email to Chase October 28th, so way past that.

Good luck!
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[cryptodevil]

Got a reply from the UK Companies House about the registered office address being vacant and being unable to contact them.

"I can confirm that I have written to the company to request the forms AD01 to update the public record without delay.

As we have no response steps will be taken to commence action to remove this company from the Register."

[asa7]

hope they will ship one day

I am thinking to NOT accept any package from AT as this machine is 99% loss  I will not pay 20% VAT + 10% Custom fees ....
I will request to be returned to sender ... 

[fightalpha]

hope they will ship one day

I am thinking to NOT accept any package from AT as this machine is 99% loss  I will not pay 20% VAT + 10% Custom fees ....
I will request to be returned to sender ... 

Join us over at http://fightalpha.net/

[s1gs3gv]

Got a reply from the UK Companies House about the registered office address being vacant and being unable to contact them.

"I can confirm that I have written to the company to request the forms AD01 to update the public record without delay.

As we have no response steps will be taken to commence action to remove this company from the Register."

Good work man.

[SimonBeCoinin]

Got a reply from the UK Companies House about the registered office address being vacant and being unable to contact them.

"I can confirm that I have written to the company to request the forms AD01 to update the public record without delay.

As we have no response steps will be taken to commence action to remove this company from the Register."

Good work man.

+1 

for sure.   they'll have to re-register or they are completely out of business.

this is also important news for people trying to get their money back via the courts, CC or PayPal.

nice.

[SimonBeCoinin]

Got this card in the mail today. If you paid by credit card, and haven't opened a dispute, definitely do it sooner rather than later! It was past the time for me to start the dispute online, but a simple message to them made it happen. I immediately got the temporary credit. Alpha replied to them close to the 45 day mark when it would have been permanent and said it was still within the time frame for them to deliver (a blatant lie). Chase asked me for some documents... I sent the original terms of order, the email from March 19th showing shipping date in July, the one from March 27th removing PayPal as an option, the one from May 21st requesting final payment (which I had no way to complete as PayPal was gone), the email July 28th saying delivery in September, and the one from Sept 27th saying delivery in October. I pointed out that the terms said shipping 8-10 weeks after final payment, which they requested May 21. That would have put the shipping date July 31. I sent this email to Chase October 28th, so way past that.

Good luck!

Nice.  And, yes, this process takes time, nearly 2 months to get this done, so people should get steppin'.

[jrose120]

hope they will ship one day

I am thinking to NOT accept any package from AT as this machine is 99% loss  I will not pay 20% VAT + 10% Custom fees ....
I will request to be returned to sender ... 

So long as you don't open the box, you can take delivery and then bring it back to the courier unopened and tell them you are refusing delivery. I always thought it had to be done when they were at your door, not the case with couriers in the USA.

[asa7]

hope they will ship one day

I am thinking to NOT accept any package from AT as this machine is 99% loss  I will not pay 20% VAT + 10% Custom fees ....
I will request to be returned to sender ... 

So long as you don't open the box, you can take delivery and then bring it back to the courier unopened and tell them you are refusing delivery. I always thought it had to be done when they were at your door, not the case with couriers in the USA.

I suppose my package will be holding on our Custom, so it will not reach to my door at all and if I receive tracking number I will inform the courier that I am refusing this package to return it to AT (sender). I am not going to pay and one penny anymore for this bullshit ..... but  I am doubting that AT will send anything at all .... 

[brian_23452]

Yea, I'm guessing "what to do when the package arrives", is probably not something any of you will have to worry about.  Just sayin.

[jrose120]

Just caught something from looking carefully at Alpha-T announcements.

They claim they each chip runs at 1.5Mh/s with 12 chips per board that's only 18Mh/s. So the 50Mh/s units have 3 boards and the 250Mh/s units will have 14 boards? Something is not adding up here. The Viper case is going to hold 14 boards? Is this correct? From the case dimensions they've given this doesn't seam to make sense. Can someone shed any light on the topic?

That's working out to 135 Watts at 120V per board of 12 chips. Hmm, let me run some more numbers.  

EDIT: So that's 1Mh/s running at 11.3 Watts? Math was never my strong suit. Alpha is advertising 7.5 Watts per 1Mh/s. Surprise surprise!

[s1gs3gv]

Just caught something from looking carefully at Alpha-T announcements.

They claim they each chip runs at 1.5Mh/s with 12 chips per board that's only 18Mh/s. So the 50Mh/s units have 3 boards and the 250Mh/s units will have 14 boards? Something is not adding up here. The Viper case is going to hold 14 boards? Is this correct? From the case dimensions they've given this doesn't seam to make sense. Can someone shed any light on the topic?

That's working out to 135 Watts at 120V per board of 12 chips. Hmm, let me run some more numbers.  

EDIT: So that's 1Mh/s running at 11.3 Watts? Math was never my strong suit. Alpha is advertising 7.5 Watts per 1Mh/s. Surprise surprise!

I've been pointing this out for a while. The case has room for 10 PCI-e power connectors on the back.

[s1gs3gv]

Yea, I'm guessing "what to do when the package arrives", is probably not something any of you will have to worry about.  Just sayin.

^

[vesperwillow]

Just caught something from looking carefully at Alpha-T announcements.

They claim they each chip runs at 1.5Mh/s with 12 chips per board that's only 18Mh/s. So the 50Mh/s units have 3 boards and the 250Mh/s units will have 14 boards? Something is not adding up here. The Viper case is going to hold 14 boards? Is this correct? From the case dimensions they've given this doesn't seam to make sense. Can someone shed any light on the topic?

That's working out to 135 Watts at 120V per board of 12 chips. Hmm, let me run some more numbers.  

EDIT: So that's 1Mh/s running at 11.3 Watts? Math was never my strong suit. Alpha is advertising 7.5 Watts per 1Mh/s. Surprise surprise!

You're knocking on something I hit on back in June. Presume they're running 7.5 watts per mh, that's 1875 watts total. The photo they've been showing is of a ~19" case @ 4U (7"). This has 10 6xPCIE power ports, each rated at 75 watts. There's nowhere else in their design, or any photos, for any supplemental power. This limits that device to a nominal 750 watts, or, 100mh.

This would mean the photos are of a 50mh unit, AND/OR something in their design isn't right, AND/OR they plan on burning up power ports, AND/OR their chips are the most efficient in the world and run far less than projected. The PCB shown looks to be roughly 15x5", which means that there wouldn't be any room left in the case for more boards once you add heatsinks.

This would mean that physically, the case pictured, can only hold about 120 chips, which according to their projections is 180mh. To reach 250mh, they'd have to overclock by 39% which means an even higher wattage use.

For a 10 board @ 12 chip case to push 250mh, each chip would have to run at 2.1mh. For it to be within allowable CE spec for the 6xPCIE connector, they couldn't be pushing more than 3watts per 1mh. Anyone familiar with KNC's recent fiascos with the 6xPCIE's will know what happens when they're pushed too far.

To give an idea of current real-world at-the-wall ratings reported by folks:

Gridseed GC3355 55nm: 26.9w/mh
KNC Titan 28nm: 5w/mh

AlphaTech's gear would have to be almost twice as efficient as KNC's to meet their "fastest and most efficient" claims, AS WELL as actually shipping the advertised hashrate per box. Not saying it's impossible, but there's a lacking probability.

[retro72]

You're knocking on something I hit on back in June. Presume they're running 7.5 watts per mh, that's 1875 watts total. The photo they've been showing is of a ~19" case @ 4U (7"). This has 10 6xPCIE power ports, each rated at 75 watts. There's nowhere else in their design, or any photos, for any supplemental power. This limits that device to a nominal 750 watts, or, 100mh.

This would mean the photos are of a 50mh unit, AND/OR something in their design isn't right, AND/OR they plan on burning up power ports, AND/OR their chips are the most efficient in the world and run far less than projected. The PCB shown looks to be roughly 15x5", which means that there wouldn't be any room left in the case for more boards once you add heatsinks.

This would mean that physically, the case pictured, can only hold about 120 chips, which according to their projections is 180mh. To reach 250mh, they'd have to overclock by 39% which means an even higher wattage use.

For a 10 board @ 12 chip case to push 250mh, each chip would have to run at 2.1mh. For it to be within allowable CE spec for the 6xPCIE connector, they couldn't be pushing more than 3watts per 1mh. Anyone familiar with KNC's recent fiascos with the 6xPCIE's will know what happens when they're pushed too far.

To give an idea of current real-world at-the-wall ratings reported by folks:

Gridseed GC3355 55nm: 26.9w/mh
KNC Titan 28nm: 5w/mh

AlphaTech's gear would have to be almost twice as efficient as KNC's to meet their "fastest and most efficient" claims, AS WELL as actually shipping the advertised hashrate per box. Not saying it's impossible, but there's a lacking probability.

Yes, we talked about this a while back. Alpha are using 40nm technology so I'd be interested to see their real world power consumption figures. Don't even get me started on stuffing 14 boards into that case. I don't see how they're going to do it and still get heatsinks in. As I pointed out with photos in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0 every other manufacturer has A LOT more space for heatsinks and cooling.  They're going to need the worlds most efficient chips to stick 168 of them into that case without the whole thing going up like a Roman candle.

But we're assuming they're going to ship anything at all, which at this point is highly unlikely so the point is probably moot.

[Test User]

They claim they each chip runs at 1.5Mh/s with 12 chips per board that's only 18Mh/s. So the 50Mh/s units have 3 boards and the 250Mh/s units will have 14 boards? Something is not adding up here. The Viper case is going to hold 14 boards? Is this correct? From the case dimensions they've given this doesn't seam to make sense. Can someone shed any light on the topic?

That is correct. The CAD drawings of the case for the 250 MH miner show 15 hashing boards

Quite how they are connecting the boards to 10 power connections isn't clear. However, the boards have 2 power connectors - possibly they are connecting the boards in groups of 3, with the 1st and 3rd connecting to the power ports, and then the middle board connecting to boards 1 & 3.

That would explain why their test board only had 1 PCI-e connector attached. If it's not been used in a miner, and only used for testing, it only needs 1 power port.

[raj_kapur]

Hey Guys,

Some of you may remember me from the litecointalk forum, i was a big supporter of Alpha Technology until the delays happened, now I am on the other side of the fence and i was unfortunate to have ordered the 1 x 250Mhashing device. In a bid to get all my money back I had seen the posts from retro72 on this forum as he was saying PM him for more information, so i pm'd him. He was very determined to help me and to cut the story short said he would help file money claims for me and also get me a UK legal representative (his wife Veronica)  as back-up to get me my money back, he said he had helped many people get their money back through this approach and it would 100% work. I had listened to Retro72 and he said he knew exactly what to do and would do all this for a fee of $500. It has been 2 weeks and I do not get any PM replies or email replies from Retro72, he has scammed me and i would like to ask him why he did this, and to please give my money back (I paid him via BTC). Has anybody else fallen for Retro72? if so what do you advice i do?

The b****rd Retro72 is playing a very clever strategy where he is making use of a anonymous character and bad situation for customers so he makes money from false hopes of me getting my almost $10k in money i paid alpha. I was told the $500 is peanuts compared to what i was guaranteed, so it was very enticing.

I  have been taken for a ride both ways, and it has been very depressing. The email Retro72 told me to privately email, I had googled this email and found he is registered domain on the same email address, and after further digging through many database websites I have found his full private details (i googled map his address), I suggest someone who has money and has also been scammed by Retro72 to take this further, he is not anonymous, Retro i know who you are! and I will get justice. He also has an accomplice named Veronica, who he claims is his wife and is a barrister who deals with the legal aspects so they can guarantee me my money back.

Anyway for anyone who has been also scammed by retro72 here is his details, so you can make your own claims and contact actionfraud, like i have done. If you have been scammed by retro you can ring him directly and confront him!  (i know the number works as i have rang it before).


His email: reaver000@yahoo.com

name and UK address:

Nick Joseph   
Chartwood House
Bagshot Road
Chobham, Surrey
GU24 8SJ
UK

Tel: +44.01276488145


On the alpha front, i have found a legal helper on another forum who is advising me for free on how to get my $9k dollars back for my 1 x 250Mhash device, i will let you all know how it progresses.

[Kuikens]

Just send me $250 in Bitcoin and I will get your money back from retro72
Sick thing you got scammed twice, hope you'll at least recoup the $500 and manage to file a claim directly against AT to get the rest back also.
www.fightalpha.net has all the instructions (for free!).

The b****rd Retro72 is playing a very clever strategy where he is making use of a anonymous character and bad situation for customers so he makes money from false hopes of me getting my almost $10k in money i paid alpha. I was told the $500 is peanuts compared to what i was guaranteed, so it was very enticing.