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Anybody who has burned a GPU board from OC'ing will recognize it as such. GPUs are not a comparison here... you're comparing apples to oranges and making yourself look like a multi-posting fool. That board is used, anyone who says otherwise is misleading everyone.
I don't think anyone has said it was unused. It isn't heavily used, and the PCB isn't dicoloured from mining extensively or some bullshit like that. I'm certainly not trying to mislead anyone, however, your obvious attempts to talk about things you do not know are very clearly manipulation. Maybe you're manipulating your own small mind too and seeing things that aren't there tho. Trying to speculate from that one picture that Alpha-T has been mining with these rigs for some time, is paramount to stupidity and gives them way way too much credit. These guys are incompetent and stupid, not criminal masterminds.
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alexfgT
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November 22, 2014, 11:15:07 PM |
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Hey guys they respond to you to emails? I do not get a response for a month
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November 23, 2014, 12:37:08 AM |
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Anybody who has burned a GPU board from OC'ing will recognize it as such. GPUs are not a comparison here... you're comparing apples to oranges and making yourself look like a multi-posting fool. That board is used, anyone who says otherwise is misleading everyone.
I don't think anyone has said it was unused. It isn't heavily used, and the PCB isn't dicoloured from mining extensively or some bullshit like that. I'm certainly not trying to mislead anyone, however, your obvious attempts to talk about things you do not know are very clearly manipulation. Maybe you're manipulating your own small mind too and seeing things that aren't there tho. Trying to speculate from that one picture that Alpha-T has been mining with these rigs for some time, is paramount to stupidity and gives them way way too much credit. These guys are incompetent and stupid, not criminal masterminds. Why so angry? Did you give money to Alpha-T?
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November 23, 2014, 01:19:15 AM |
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you're comparing apples to oranges and making yourself look like a multi-posting fool.
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cryptodevil
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November 23, 2014, 11:11:48 AM |
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Hey guys they respond to you to emails? I do not get a response for a month
No, they do not, hence the police fraud reports being made these days. They were explicitly warned that if they did not respond to the refund request and they continued remaining silent, it would have to be assumed they were seeking to defraud and reports would be filed with both the police and companies house (about the registered office being vacant and process servers being unable to serve legal documents). Since then they have continued to remain silent, bar the ridiculous "Greetings miners!. . ." bullshit posts on their forum.
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November 23, 2014, 02:32:28 PM Last edit: November 23, 2014, 02:58:59 PM by giboon29 |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers 100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t
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November 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers 100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t Therein lies the rub. You give them the money to build them, and then they mine on them, dump the coins, and bring down the profitability. You get your miners, and your ROI has gone down the toilet. 10x hash-rate is meaningless. It just means they can dump 10x as many coins.
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popolite11
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November 23, 2014, 06:04:31 PM |
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hope they will ship one day
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November 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM |
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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they come up with a new scheme to offer cloud mining instead of shipping a product. Watch and see, they'll change their minds again and announce that no physical products will be shipped out.
After all, they're going to have a huge data center where they will "Break In" their customer's miners. Assuring that each and every product is thoroughly tested. If by side effect they earn a ton in cryptos and push up the difficulty for everyone, they'll claim it was for their customer's benefit. Here is your worthless miner, we've tested it for 6 months now and it's passed our quality control.
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November 24, 2014, 01:40:15 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers 100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t You do realize there's other manufacturers out there, along with some private ones, right? Whether AT has anything hashing away, they're not the sole contributor to nethash.
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November 24, 2014, 02:03:50 PM |
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I think you're given them too much credit for building a quality miner that isn't a power hog. Their miner would already be worthless if it were to ship today. These incompetent liars will probably produce something that uses twice as much power as originally advertised, ship it out, and then close shop having "fulfilled" the few orders that were not partially refunded. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they come up with a new scheme to offer cloud mining instead of shipping a product. Watch and see, they'll change their minds again and announce that no physical products will be shipped out.
After all, they're going to have a huge data center where they will "Break In" their customer's miners. Assuring that each and every product is thoroughly tested. If by side effect they earn a ton in cryptos and push up the difficulty for everyone, they'll claim it was for their customer's benefit. Here is your worthless miner, we've tested it for 6 months now and it's passed our quality control.
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November 24, 2014, 02:15:18 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers 100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t You do realize there's other manufacturers out there, along with some private ones, right? Whether AT has anything hashing away, they're not the sole contributor to nethash. Considering Bitmain is supposed to start shipping their L1 scrypt miner next month, I might guess they're doing some testing as well.
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November 24, 2014, 04:25:04 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers 100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t You do realize there's other manufacturers out there, along with some private ones, right? Whether AT has anything hashing away, they're not the sole contributor to nethash. Considering Bitmain is supposed to start shipping their L1 scrypt miner next month, I might guess they're doing some testing as well. Precisely... KNC, Bitmain, AlphaTech, Unknown countless others... it adds up. Between all of them, and there's about ten of them, 100..200..700GH is not unheard of.
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November 25, 2014, 01:59:17 AM |
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Home mining is already near death. It's sad to see it have happened to the Scrypt ASIC so soon. Only those whom can get the miners for wholesale prices and are also paying discounted electric bills stand a chance at ROI. The rest will be lucky to ROI, if ever!!!
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November 25, 2014, 04:38:41 AM |
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Home mining is already near death. It's sad to see it have happened to the Scrypt ASIC so soon. Only those whom can get the miners for wholesale prices and are also paying discounted electric bills stand a chance at ROI. The rest will be lucky to ROI, if ever!!!
not sure if you're aware but even a negative return is still 'ROI'. what you may mean is BREAK EVEN - at which i would agree. The rest will be lucky to break even..
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November 25, 2014, 05:07:24 AM |
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You understood, I tend to use the term ROI to mean more than its literal meaning. I've gotten lazy from reading these forums. The pressure on the market to buy up all of these coins that miners must sell in order to pay the electric bill, rent, etc... The outlook for cryptos in general doesn't look good. Wish I could say otherwise. It could be years after the bubble collapses and a large portion of the miners leave the network. It could have a resurgence, but only if the difficulty bottoms out or the price skyrockets. Neither one seems likely, so it's going to be a tough ride if your playing by the rules. Hence Alpha-T and there crafty schemes. If they hadn't planned on milking your miners for as much as possible, I'm sure they are trying to figure out a way to do it now. They will claim to be "testing" your hardware until the rigs are worthless due to the difficulty rise.
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November 25, 2014, 05:09:44 AM |
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Can't see one scenario in which they do anything to come close to make their customers whole through legitimately purchasing their hardware. They wipe their ass with customers, why would they stop now?
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November 25, 2014, 05:50:03 AM |
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Got this card in the mail today. If you paid by credit card, and haven't opened a dispute, definitely do it sooner rather than later! It was past the time for me to start the dispute online, but a simple message to them made it happen. I immediately got the temporary credit. Alpha replied to them close to the 45 day mark when it would have been permanent and said it was still within the time frame for them to deliver (a blatant lie). Chase asked me for some documents... I sent the original terms of order, the email from March 19th showing shipping date in July, the one from March 27th removing PayPal as an option, the one from May 21st requesting final payment (which I had no way to complete as PayPal was gone), the email July 28th saying delivery in September, and the one from Sept 27th saying delivery in October. I pointed out that the terms said shipping 8-10 weeks after final payment, which they requested May 21. That would have put the shipping date July 31. I sent this email to Chase October 28th, so way past that. Good luck! http://geekandproud.net/images/20141124_213733.jpg
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November 25, 2014, 09:04:34 AM |
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Got a reply from the UK Companies House about the registered office address being vacant and being unable to contact them.
"I can confirm that I have written to the company to request the forms AD01 to update the public record without delay.
As we have no response steps will be taken to commence action to remove this company from the Register."
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November 25, 2014, 11:27:45 AM |
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hope they will ship one day
I am thinking to NOT accept any package from AT as this machine is 99% loss I will not pay 20% VAT + 10% Custom fees .... I will request to be returned to sender ...
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