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If they're fingerprints, it's a very high coincidence for them to be sitting right over those pads. Instead it's possible that the reflow oven they used didn't put any solder there, and they used an iron at far too high of a temp to do so by hand. Or it's smudges, or it's something else, but those traces don't appear damaged so there'd be no point for the PCB to be burned there. This is frankly, a decent analysis. Much more appropriate then "used board", which is quite frankly, ridiculous. I am all for remembering and recognizing everything Alpha-Technologies has done wrong and illegally, and let us not forget all their broken promises (contractual obligations..?..).. But please, let's be objective and not point out obvious bullshit about PCB discoloring like complete fools talking about things they do not know. I stand by my own opinions regarding the boards having seen significant use. I've had hundreds of GPUs pass through my hands and PCB boards don't look like that when they are new. Believe what you like. Obviously it's only my opinion, just as you have yours. GPUs are not a comparison here... You're comparing the boards of giants (AMD/Asus) to ants (Dextrel/Alpha-Technologies/The Akrams). My opinion is better then yours, at least in this case - period - sorry. Again, I think the Akram father and sons should never be forgotten as the fraudsters they are... but, that is not a picture of a "heavily used board"...
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November 22, 2014, 07:40:27 AM |
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I was bringing in about 8k-12k a month, for the first few months at least.
Those were the days ! Yes they were. I swear on my life, according to a few days about this time last year each rig I had running was bringing in $100 a day in profits, after power consumption. Each rig ran at 3.8Mh/s and had 6 Sapphire 7950's running off a single MB but used two Power Supplies. One 1000W PSU and one 850W PSU and they pulled down about 1400W at 120V, per rig. The rigs cost about $2,000 to build and would ROI in about a month. My only mistake was continuing to reinvest the profits to more and more mining rigs. I should have stopped growing and started focusing on liquidating a month or more earlier than I did. Cost me a lot of my profits. Anyone who is mining cryptos knows they are gambling. It used to be a sure bet, but not so much anymore. I personally am completely out of the mining business and am just watching from the sidelines. 
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November 22, 2014, 02:53:26 PM |
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My opinion is better then yours, at least in this case
No it isn't Again, I think the Akram father and sons should never be forgotten as the fraudsters they are... but, that is not a picture of a "heavily used board"...
That is not a picture of an unused board either. That is definitely epoxy discoloration from a burn of some sort. Anybody who has burned a GPU board from OC'ing will recognize it as such. Why is it burned in that spot ? Who knows ... Why did they post a picture of a board with a burn ? Probably because its the only board they had. Why is the exif data missing ? Probably because if they know that if it was present people could put 2 and 2 together and come to a conclusion that was uncomfortable for Alpha-T. ~L)L~
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November 22, 2014, 03:10:42 PM |
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I was bringing in about 8k-12k a month, for the first few months at least.
Those were the days ! Yes they were. I swear on my life, according to a few days about this time last year each rig I had running was bringing in $100 a day in profits, after power consumption. Each rig ran at 3.8Mh/s and had 6 Sapphire 7950's running off a single MB but used two Power Supplies. One 1000W PSU and one 850W PSU and they pulled down about 1400W at 120V, per rig. The rigs cost about $2,000 to build and would ROI in about a month. My only mistake was continuing to reinvest the profits to more and more mining rigs. I should have stopped growing and started focusing on liquidating a month or more earlier than I did. Cost me a lot of my profits. Anyone who is mining cryptos knows they are gambling. It used to be a sure bet, but not so much anymore. I personally am completely out of the mining business and am just watching from the sidelines.  Yes sir, that's a great image of how my competition felt.
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November 22, 2014, 03:11:51 PM |
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That board is used, anyone who says otherwise is misleading everyone.
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November 22, 2014, 03:18:34 PM |
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I have just telephoned to Action Fraud they have taken my report and immediately passed on to the police 
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phzi
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November 22, 2014, 11:02:54 PM |
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Anybody who has burned a GPU board from OC'ing will recognize it as such. GPUs are not a comparison here... you're comparing apples to oranges and making yourself look like a multi-posting fool. That board is used, anyone who says otherwise is misleading everyone.
I don't think anyone has said it was unused. It isn't heavily used, and the PCB isn't dicoloured from mining extensively or some bullshit like that. I'm certainly not trying to mislead anyone, however, your obvious attempts to talk about things you do not know are very clearly manipulation. Maybe you're manipulating your own small mind too and seeing things that aren't there tho. Trying to speculate from that one picture that Alpha-T has been mining with these rigs for some time, is paramount to stupidity and gives them way way too much credit. These guys are incompetent and stupid, not criminal masterminds.
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November 22, 2014, 11:15:07 PM |
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Hey guys they respond to you to emails? I do not get a response for a month
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November 23, 2014, 12:37:08 AM |
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Anybody who has burned a GPU board from OC'ing will recognize it as such. GPUs are not a comparison here... you're comparing apples to oranges and making yourself look like a multi-posting fool. That board is used, anyone who says otherwise is misleading everyone.
I don't think anyone has said it was unused. It isn't heavily used, and the PCB isn't dicoloured from mining extensively or some bullshit like that. I'm certainly not trying to mislead anyone, however, your obvious attempts to talk about things you do not know are very clearly manipulation. Maybe you're manipulating your own small mind too and seeing things that aren't there tho. Trying to speculate from that one picture that Alpha-T has been mining with these rigs for some time, is paramount to stupidity and gives them way way too much credit. These guys are incompetent and stupid, not criminal masterminds. Why so angry? Did you give money to Alpha-T?
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November 23, 2014, 01:19:15 AM |
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you're comparing apples to oranges and making yourself look like a multi-posting fool.

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November 23, 2014, 11:11:48 AM |
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Hey guys they respond to you to emails? I do not get a response for a month
No, they do not, hence the police fraud reports being made these days. They were explicitly warned that if they did not respond to the refund request and they continued remaining silent, it would have to be assumed they were seeking to defraud and reports would be filed with both the police and companies house (about the registered office being vacant and process servers being unable to serve legal documents). Since then they have continued to remain silent, bar the ridiculous "Greetings miners!. . ." bullshit posts on their forum.
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WARNING!!! Check your forum URLs carefully and avoid links to phishing sites like 'thebitcointalk' 'bitcointalk.to' and 'BitcointaLLk'
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November 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers  100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t Therein lies the rub. You give them the money to build them, and then they mine on them, dump the coins, and bring down the profitability. You get your miners, and your ROI has gone down the toilet. 10x hash-rate is meaningless. It just means they can dump 10x as many coins.
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November 23, 2014, 06:04:31 PM |
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hope they will ship one day
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November 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM |
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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they come up with a new scheme to offer cloud mining instead of shipping a product. Watch and see, they'll change their minds again and announce that no physical products will be shipped out.
After all, they're going to have a huge data center where they will "Break In" their customer's miners. Assuring that each and every product is thoroughly tested. If by side effect they earn a ton in cryptos and push up the difficulty for everyone, they'll claim it was for their customer's benefit. Here is your worthless miner, we've tested it for 6 months now and it's passed our quality control.
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers  100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t You do realize there's other manufacturers out there, along with some private ones, right? Whether AT has anything hashing away, they're not the sole contributor to nethash.
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November 24, 2014, 02:03:50 PM |
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I think you're given them too much credit for building a quality miner that isn't a power hog. Their miner would already be worthless if it were to ship today. These incompetent liars will probably produce something that uses twice as much power as originally advertised, ship it out, and then close shop having "fulfilled" the few orders that were not partially refunded. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they come up with a new scheme to offer cloud mining instead of shipping a product. Watch and see, they'll change their minds again and announce that no physical products will be shipped out.
After all, they're going to have a huge data center where they will "Break In" their customer's miners. Assuring that each and every product is thoroughly tested. If by side effect they earn a ton in cryptos and push up the difficulty for everyone, they'll claim it was for their customer's benefit. Here is your worthless miner, we've tested it for 6 months now and it's passed our quality control.
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November 24, 2014, 02:15:18 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers  100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t You do realize there's other manufacturers out there, along with some private ones, right? Whether AT has anything hashing away, they're not the sole contributor to nethash. Considering Bitmain is supposed to start shipping their L1 scrypt miner next month, I might guess they're doing some testing as well.
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November 24, 2014, 04:25:04 PM |
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Litecoin Difficulty: 49,818 Estimated Next Difficulty: 51,176 (+2.73%) Adjust time: After 1601 Blocks, About 2.7 days Hashrate(?): 1,493 GH/s Looks like another 100 GH/s added ...... Alpha testing even more vipers  100 GH/s = monthly 213500$ fecking wenkers alpha t You do realize there's other manufacturers out there, along with some private ones, right? Whether AT has anything hashing away, they're not the sole contributor to nethash. Considering Bitmain is supposed to start shipping their L1 scrypt miner next month, I might guess they're doing some testing as well. Precisely... KNC, Bitmain, AlphaTech, Unknown countless others... it adds up. Between all of them, and there's about ten of them, 100..200..700GH is not unheard of.
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November 25, 2014, 01:59:17 AM |
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Home mining is already near death. It's sad to see it have happened to the Scrypt ASIC so soon. Only those whom can get the miners for wholesale prices and are also paying discounted electric bills stand a chance at ROI. The rest will be lucky to ROI, if ever!!!
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November 25, 2014, 04:38:41 AM |
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Home mining is already near death. It's sad to see it have happened to the Scrypt ASIC so soon. Only those whom can get the miners for wholesale prices and are also paying discounted electric bills stand a chance at ROI. The rest will be lucky to ROI, if ever!!!
not sure if you're aware but even a negative return is still 'ROI'. what you may mean is BREAK EVEN - at which i would agree. The rest will be lucky to break even..
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