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February 12, 2017, 08:55:52 PM
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Riddle me this!




4 years of no activity and today Hal's account just went live.  Sooo:

A)  Someone defrosted Hal way too early.

B)  His account got hacked.

C)  His son just became active.

Excellent find, bud! How do you find all the good stuff?



Maybe Hal's brain started to defrost so he hooked himself up the Internet, then logged in here to give us a heads-up that something's amiss at Alcor Life Extension Foundation.



Now, for a post from the past ...

Time to ask some basic Nick Szabo questions.

Was "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo a member of the Extropians who met in Cupertino?
    Subject: Party with the Nextropians! at Nexus-Lite!
    From: plaz@netcom.com (Geoff Dale)
    Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:40:48 -0800
    Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com

         MEET THE NEXTROPIANS: WE ARE HERE AND NOW AMONG YOU
__________________________________________________________________________
Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Nick Szabo - Russell Whitaker
When: Saturday, March 12, 1994, 7.p.m (after the Cypherpunks meeting, until
an indeterminate time on the following day)
Where: 21090 Grenola Drive, Cupertino CA
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1994/02/msg01429.html

Did "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo write How to Protect Your Electronic Privacy, Portland 1993?
https://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Crypto/?f=privacy_szabo.paper.txt

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the former mayor of Cupertino?

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA?  Wife named Marcia?
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the holder of these patents?
http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Szabo-Nicholas/7231849

Did "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo know Hal Finney since 1993?
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html


Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo this 84 year old guy in Cupertino?
http://radaris.com/~Nicholas-Szabo/223526343

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the son "Andrew Nicholas Szabo" of the old guy in Cupertino, now living in Madison, WI?
http://radaris.com/~Andrew-Szabo/178052517

Where are the photos of "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo?

Who has been in the same room with "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo?
Romana Machado? - Geoff Dale? - David Gordon?  - Russell Whitaker?

Why didn't Satoshi cite Nick Szabo's bit gold in his whitepaper?
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html

In Jan 2 1993, when Nick Szabo wrote "In my limited experience creating Internet pseudonyms, I’ve been quite distracted by the continual need to avoid leaving pointers to my True Name lying around — excess mail to/from my True Name, shared files, common peculiarities (eg misspellings in written text), traceable logins, etc." what pseudonyms had he already used?
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html

What was the result of Nick Szabo writing in 2008 "... would greatly benefit from a demonstration, an experimental market (with e.g. a trusted third party substituted for the complex security that would be needed for a real system). Anybody want to help me code one up?" (seven months before the release of Bitcoin)

Who was the "eddie" who first used the term "bit coin" on Szabo's blog?

What did Nick Szabo mean by the statement, [These comments edit and add to comments of mine under previous blog post(s)]?  Was the "eddie" comment originally made somewhere else?

How many Nick Szabos could live in Cupertino, and how many would it take to screw in a lightbulb?



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X-Message-Number: 4472
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:40:31 -0800
From: carols@shell.portal.com (Carol Shaw)
Subject: Alcor North CA Cryonics Mtg. Sunday June 11

The next Alcor Northern California cryonics meeting will be held on Sunday,
June 11, 1995.
All members and guests are welcome to attend.

The schedule is:

4:00 PM          Business meeting chaired by Russell Whitaker
around 6:00 PM   Potluck supper and socializing

Location:        Russell Whitaker's home, an Extropian Nexus
                 21090 Grenola Drive
                 Cupertino, California


Telephone:       408-388-7261

Directions:      Take Highway 85 to the Stevens Creek Blvd. exit (just
south of Highway 280). Go east on Stevens Creek. Turn left (north) on
Stelling. Take the third left on Hazelbrook. Take the first right on Flora
Vista. Take the second left on Grenola Drive.

Alcor Northern California meetings are held on the second Sunday of each month.

Carol Shaw
carols@shell.portal.com
http://www.portal.com/~carols/carolshomepage.html


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"To da moon!"

Don't make me dig up early references to Cryonics by Hal.

On the other hand, Cryonics mentions by Nick Szabo...

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=2517

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X-Message-Number: 2517
From: szabo@netcom.com (Nick Szabo)
Subject: CRYONICS: Good research to fund
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 01:01:24 -0800 (PST)


Stephen J. Van Sickle:
> I would like to pose a question.  Given the current state of the art, what
> is the most promising avenue of research given a limited budget (no more
> than 200,000 to 300,000 dollars)?  

The best use for this level of funding might be to enable
cryonics-aware cryobiologists like Dr. Greg Fahy to target
cryonics-specific neuropreservation problems.  It also might
be quite valuable to fund grad student cryobiologists,
and target cryobiology students with focused outreach.  Develop
a larger, smarter, and more cryonics-freindly group of young
cryobiologists to improve the cryonics state of the art over the
coming decades.

We might not have funding available at the moment for this, but
research into the theoretical applied science of reanimation
(nanotechnology, biotechnology, brain research, etc.), to come up
with feasible, if currently unmanufacturable, designs for cell repair
machines, would give us more confident estimates of the feasibility
of cryonics, and also guide current cryonics techniques in terms
of determining which brain structures and chemicals are the
most and least important targets for preseveration.  Greg Fahy
has done some interesting thinking in this area, on top of his
prolific organ preservation work.

If I had donor $$$ of any significance, I'd divide them evenly
between the Foresight Institute (targeting specifically
cell repair machine design) and cryonics-freindly cryobiology
research.

Nick Szabo            szabo@netcom.com

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February 12, 2017, 09:13:41 PM
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Dude, Gleb, that's just a whole bunch of nothing right there.

Why you continually burying my stuff?  Well known fed tactic.  Don't be so obvious.  

The same thing happens in chat rooms.  Dead room, I post this stuff and the room lights up with active posters talking about nonsense, burying my posts in a few minutes so nobody sees it.  

Edit:  That was posted on Reddit.  That's where I "found" it.  That's not the point.  Point is the timing.  Fits perfectly. 

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This is why Gleb the fed puppet is trying to bury my last post.



riddle me this:


[what if]




The creator of Bitcoin was living in Temple City.

Now remember who created [in 2004] the proof of work.  Hal Finney.

Where did he live?  Temple City.

Who received the first transaction?  Hal Finney.

You know everything about crypto currencies/Bitcoin and let someone else take the credit? No way!

He prepared everything and then asked one of his two [tech savvy] children (Jason or Erin) to transmit it over the internet from their home.

Hal was a dreamer and libertarian. He realizes btc will be misused by criminals and govts and get taken over by the elite miners, bankers, investors, etc., before it has a chance to mature, before the masses have a chance to accumulate it.

In 2011 he retires. He decides to start a parallel project, but since he was sick (diagnosed in 2009) he needed a shorter time of mining. He then got very sick, unable to follow the project so he asked someone he trusted, his son, to take over the new project.

He decided to create a premine in order to be able to control the direction and development and to throw off any suspicion of iXcoin being in any way a legitimate coin, to keep away hoarders and the elite - long enough to allow the masses to accumulate iXcoin.  Merge mining was also implemented within the first 6 months to prevent the same easy mass accumulation by only a few, like what happened with Bitcoin.



Hal's son, Jason, who has been described as tech savvy decides to take over his dying father's final project.  This explain the same style in writing, between Satoshi Nakamoto and Thomas Nasakioto, the same kindness, his competence and his fear to be discovered.


The use of acronyms in the name Thomas vs Satoshi, it's telling you the creator is still the same, but this time he wants things to be different, like:  "it's still me, but my idea is different - the outcome will be different - the elite have been fooled into chasing the wrong coin."

Also embedding in the acronym, the message, his final wish:  The Twin to lift up the Colonies.

And the name Jason can mean healer or "The Lord is Salvation" similar to IXC = Jesus Christ Savior, following the same religious pattern embedded throughout iXcoin.


Finally, the complete name of Hal Finney is:  Harold Thomas Finney II.



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This is why Gleb the fed puppet is trying to bury my last post.

<snip>


The ONLY association I've ever had with the fed was when I was in direct contact with the Kansas City FBI during their investigation of BFL, mostly assisting them in blockchain forensics as it pertained to BFL, Sonny Vleisides and Josh Zerlan's expenditures. If I'm a fed puppet now, unbeknownst to me, it's ONLY if the 3-LAs monitor my posts in augmenting their myriad ongoing investigations in the cryptocurrency space.

That said, I guess you missed the part where I alluded to Nick Szabo and Hal Finney used to party together back in the 90's.

Thus ...

Hal: Hey, Nick, I think I overcame them issues in re Internet money, but I need your help with some coding.
Nick: No prob, bud, but don't mention my name in our white paper of this whatever it's gonna be called, albeit I'm still fond of Bit Gold for the name of this coin.
Hal: Would BitCoin suffice?
Nick: Genius!
Hal: So, it's settled. Our names won't be on the white paper and the first million coins mined that we'll own won't ever be spent.
Nick: Wait, what? Are you sick?
Hal: In fact I am. Are you still in?
Nick: Damn straight!
Hal: Hey, I just got an idea. Since we'll be ghosts, let's release our white paper on Halloween.
Nick: We must've been twins in a past life. I was thinkin' the same thing.
Hal: Great! Let's split a Popsicle.


Unless you want to work something out with ahmed_bodi to obtain the github.com/ixcoin repository, it will become the new official ixcoin developers link for 9.2 and beyond.


Thank you for your work.

I can give ahmed_bodi collaborator access to the Ixcoin github if people think he is trustworthy.


I think Ahmed is trustworthy.  If there are no objections from other members then I say give him access.

Thank you, Thomas.

BTW, I exposed Ahmed Bodi back in the day.


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This is why Gleb the fed puppet is trying to bury my last post.

<snip>


The ONLY association I've ever had with the fed was when I was in direct contact with the Kansas City FBI during their investigation of BFL, mostly assisting them in blockchain forensics as it pertained to BFL, Sonny Vleisides and Josh Zerlan's expenditures. If I'm a fed puppet now, unbeknownst to me, it's ONLY if the 3-LAs monitor my posts in augmenting their myriad ongoing investigations in the cryptocurrency space.

That said, I guess you missed the part where I alluded to Nick Szabo and Hal Finney used to party together back in the 90's.

Thus ...

Hal: Hey, Nick, I think I overcame them issues in re Internet money, but I need your help with some coding.
Nick: No prob, bud, but don't mention my name in our white paper of this whatever it's gonna be called, albeit I'm still fond of Bit Gold for the name of this coin.
Hal: Would BitCoin suffice?
Nick: Genius!
Hal: So, it's settled. Our names won't be on the white paper and the first million coins mined that we'll own won't ever be spent.
Nick: Wait, what? Are you sick?
Hal: In fact I am. Are you still in?
Nick: Damn straight!
Hal: Hey, I just got an idea. Since we'll be ghosts, let's release our white paper on Halloween.
Nick: We must've been twins in a past life. I was thinkin' the same thing.
Hal: Great! Let's split a Popsicle.

Nobody takes half the page to post that.  What you posted was so incoherent that I didn't even see your point, and I actually read it all.

And Wright is Satoshi, not Szabo. 

And BFL was another government honey pot which is why NOBODY went to jail even though Sonny was a convicted fellon who stole millions.  And on top of it he only had to pay $15,000 in fines when he stole hundreds of thousands of Bitcoins.

I wouldn't boast too loudly about how you helped the Feds on that "big bust".

Tone your shit down, there's more going on here than your pay grade knows.  Thx!

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This is why Gleb the fed puppet is trying to bury my last post.

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The ONLY association I've ever had with the fed was when I was in direct contact with the Kansas City FBI during their investigation of BFL, mostly assisting them in blockchain forensics as it pertained to BFL, Sonny Vleisides and Josh Zerlan's expenditures. If I'm a fed puppet now, unbeknownst to me, it's ONLY if the 3-LAs monitor my posts in augmenting their myriad ongoing investigations in the cryptocurrency space.

That said, I guess you missed the part where I alluded to Nick Szabo and Hal Finney used to party together back in the 90's.

Thus ...

Hal: Hey, Nick, I think I overcame them issues in re Internet money, but I need your help with some coding.
Nick: No prob, bud, but don't mention my name in our white paper of this whatever it's gonna be called, albeit I'm still fond of Bit Gold for the name of this coin.
Hal: Would BitCoin suffice?
Nick: Genius!
Hal: So, it's settled. Our names won't be on the white paper and the first million coins mined that we'll own won't ever be spent.
Nick: Wait, what? Are you sick?
Hal: In fact I am. Are you still in?
Nick: Damn straight!
Hal: Hey, I just got an idea. Since we'll be ghosts, let's release our white paper on Halloween.
Nick: We must've been twins in a past life. I was thinkin' the same thing.
Hal: Great! Let's split a Popsicle.

Nobody takes half the page to post that.  What you posted was so incoherent that I didn't even see your point, and I actually read it all.

And Wright is Satoshi, not Szabo. 

And BFL was another government honey pot which is why NOBODY went to jail even though Sonny was a convicted fellon who stole millions.  And on top of it he only had to pay $15,000 in fines when he stole hundreds of thousands of Bitcoins.

I wouldn't boast too loudly about how you helped the Feds on that "big bust".

Tone your shit down, there's more going on here than your pay grade knows.  Thx!

Sonny Vleisides' fine was $100 when he stole tens of millions from mostly the elderly with his lottery scam during his tenure at Laisson Fair City, its main office located in the Russian consulate in Costa Rica, cementing your "honey pot" sentiment. I'll save the story about how three of LFC's founders committed suicide via jumping off a bridge for some other time. True story, else one believes they were pushed.
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Sonny Vleisides' fine was $100 when he stole tens of millions from mostly the elderly with his lottery scam during his tenure at Laisson Fair City, its main office located in the Russian consulate in Costa Rica, cementing your "honey pot" sentiment. I'll save the story about how three of LFC's founders committed suicide via jumping off a bridge for some other time. True story, else one believes they were pushed.

Notes for my upcoming book:  Vlad's Male Modeling Handbook [1984 edition]

If you commit mass financial crimes then follow the Sonny way.

Thx.

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Sonny Vleisides' fine was $100 when he stole tens of millions from mostly the elderly with his lottery scam during his tenure at Laisson Fair City, its main office located in the Russian consulate in Costa Rica, cementing your "honey pot" sentiment. I'll save the story about how three of LFC's founders committed suicide via jumping off a bridge for some other time. True story, else one believes they were pushed.

Notes for my upcoming book:  Vlad's Male Modeling Handbook [1984 edition]

If you commit mass financial crimes then follow the Sonny way.

Thx.

Can't wait to see your ad in Gentleman's Quarterly akin to ...



Did you know that the editor of the Laissez Faire City Times was none other than Sonny Vleisides?

The group already has 60 founding members, each of whom put up $5,000 (pounds 3,125) and a recent advertisement in the Economist yielded a flood of letters and faxes. "Some of them have been sending us unsolicited money, which is more than we asked for," said Sonny Vleisides, editor of the Laissez Faire City Times, the newsletter sent to every prospective founder.
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Sonny Vleisides' fine was $100 when he stole tens of millions from mostly the elderly with his lottery scam during his tenure at Laisson Fair City, its main office located in the Russian consulate in Costa Rica, cementing your "honey pot" sentiment. I'll save the story about how three of LFC's founders committed suicide via jumping off a bridge for some other time. True story, else one believes they were pushed.

Notes for my upcoming book:  Vlad's Male Modeling Handbook [1984 edition]

If you commit mass financial crimes then follow the Sonny way.

Thx.

I suggest , Vlad's Male Modeling And Cryptocurreny Insight Handbook as the new name.

Mannnn, this thread just got hot, like hot hot pepper hot, the kind that gives you the squirts for 5 hours the next morning hot.

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I suggest , Vlad's Male Modeling And Cryptocurreny Insight Handbook as the new name.

Mannnn, this thread just got hot, like hot hot pepper hot, the kind that gives you the squirts for 5 hours the next morning hot.


That's a go.  Haha. 

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Sonny Vleisides' fine was $100 when he stole tens of millions from mostly the elderly with his lottery scam during his tenure at Laisson Fair City, its main office located in the Russian consulate in Costa Rica, cementing your "honey pot" sentiment. I'll save the story about how three of LFC's founders committed suicide via jumping off a bridge for some other time. True story, else one believes they were pushed.

Notes for my upcoming book:  Vlad's Male Modeling Handbook [1984 edition]

If you commit mass financial crimes then follow the Sonny way.

Thx.

I suggest , Vlad's Male Modeling And Cryptocurreny Insight Handbook as the new name.

Mannnn, this thread just got hot, like hot hot pepper hot, the kind that gives you the squirts for 5 hours the next morning hot.



Like this Hot Hot Hot -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZba-P7R18
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Those filthy gramscians over in the core slack deleted your files. I only got one.

dude.

There are two.

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Those filthy gramscians over in the core slack deleted your files. I only got one.

dude.

There are two.

 Sad

Haha.  It was public stuff anyway.

This is where ground zero is gonna be when my nuke blows! 

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Mr Robot!




This was the first voice of Satoshi,

"I am Satoshi Nakamoto, I am a Robot; I am not alone, I have a twin brother his name is Thomas Nasakioto and a Grand Father; His name is Ron Lynam ".  



The time has come to...

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I see what you did there, Vlad Thomas!  Wink

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This is an unlikely accident.  Mr Robot has brought Hal back.  Wink

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Riddle me this!




4 years of no activity and today Hal's account just went live.  Sooo:

A)  Someone defrosted Hal way too early.

B)  His account got hacked.

C)  His son just became active.


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The smart ones are waking up.  Smiley



I see what you did there, Vlad Thomas!  Wink

~CfA~






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Riddle me this!




4 years of no activity and today Hal's account just went live.  Sooo:

A)  Someone defrosted Hal way too early.

B)  His account got hacked.

C)  His son just became active.

~12 Minutes earlier, this ...

https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php




"Okay, I was only able to connect to the Internet briefly, so I opted to change my BitcoinTalk password in hopes that that act alone will send a message that I'm still alive. Now, who's up a game of gin rummy? Pin the tail on the alpaca? Satoshi Dice with real dice? Spin the frozen fish stick?"

<with apologies, my current pay grade doesn't allow me to post more relevant info on this thread>
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~12 Minutes earlier, this ...

https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php




"Okay, I was only able to connect to the Internet briefly, so I opted to change my BitcoinTalk password in hopes that that act alone will send a message that I'm still alive. Now, who's up a game of gin rummy? Pin the tail on the alpaca? Satoshi Dice with real dice? Spin the frozen fish stick?"

<with apologies, my current pay grade doesn't allow me to post more relevant info on this thread>


So Hal reset his password again?  And you still think it's a coincidence?

You'll soon see that Satoshi [the Robot] and Thomas are time travelers and so they know many things before they happen.

Hal will hit up this thread like Tupac Shakur as will Satoshi Nakamoto.

This is ground zero - soon, all hell is gonna break loose in Cryptoworld, and then you will see the reality of time travel.

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~12 Minutes earlier, this ...

https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php




"Okay, I was only able to connect to the Internet briefly, so I opted to change my BitcoinTalk password in hopes that that act alone will send a message that I'm still alive. Now, who's up a game of gin rummy? Pin the tail on the alpaca? Satoshi Dice with real dice? Spin the frozen fish stick?"

<with apologies, my current pay grade doesn't allow me to post more relevant info on this thread>


So Hal reset his password again?  And you still think it's a coincidence?

You'll soon see that Satoshi [the Robot] and Thomas are time travelers and so they know many things before they happen.

Hal will hit up this thread like Tupac Shakur as will Satoshi Nakamoto.

This is ground zero - soon, all hell is gonna break loose in Cryptoworld, and then you will see the reality of time travel.


"Apples. Get your Mcintoshi apples. Freshly picked in the year 2140 for sale today when all hell is gonna break loose."
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