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August 25, 2017, 07:32:07 AM
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Everytime bitcoin splits everyone gets an equal amount on each new chain.  That's dilution.  100% dilution each time.  There are now at least 3 splits so I was being generous with only 42 million.  And more splits are coming.  Bitcoin is being minted and diluted more than the Venezuelan trash bills.  That's a simple and true fact that few seem to get.

You are promoting IXcoin, I get that, but it's not going to happen.

What's not going to happen? More forks? Segwit 2x may well become another hardfork in a few months.

You better not be talking about Ixcoin, Ixcoin already happened! It's the happening, dude.

Anyways this is a repost but it absolutely belongs in this thread:


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BLOCKSTREAM VOLCANO LAIR - Blockstream Core, masterminds behind SEGWIT, today released their reaction to SegWit's activation.

Blockstream CEO Adam Back said on hearing the news, "I am thrilled that our patented SegWit™ technology has been smoothly adopted. Our technology provides unprecedented business opportunities for the entire banking industry, possibly with some other fringe applications."

On the way back to NSA headquarters, Blockstream psyops engineer theymos gave a statement by phone, saying "As a long-time employee of BitMain, I am proud to have been even a small part of this grand achievement, brought to you by the great folks at the Bitcoin Foundation. While Goldman Sachs does not always get the best reputation, I think that our actions here have thoroughly proven that the Bilderberg Group is merely a normal, benevolent group of people."

Luke Dashjr, whose UASF support proved essential to SegWit's success, announced plans for a new, non-Bitcoin UASF which would softfork the decimal number system into Tonal, finally addressing the covert deciboost attack which has been ongoing for millennia.

Although his identity remains unknown, the Supreme Troll Army Commander was heard issuing a command to "execute order 141" to all troll army lieutenants.

"THE SCREAMS OF THE INNOCENT WILL ECHO THROUGH MY HALLS", said Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell from his skull throne. He proceeded to carve "1MB" into a shrieking supplicant's flesh while laughing manically.

All in all, spirits are high and tensions low at Blockstream Core HQ, even despite the ominous timers which fill every wall, slowly but inexorably counting down to some unknown event which lead developer Wladimir will only describe as "an EARTH-SHATTERING surprise which only those who have experienced Bitcoin's TO-THE-MOON journey will be able to truly appreciate." I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's next for Bitcoin!

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August 25, 2017, 07:37:46 AM
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Odd that you provided a link that's been broken for some time. Try this one: https://web.archive.org/web/20111006095633/http://www.scss.tcd.ie:80/~clearm/bitcoin.html


Ok thanks.It's an old link so he must have taken it down.

I was alluding to where did you glean it from?

I forget where it came from maybe off the forum here somewhere.Another theory suggests that computer scientists Donal O'Mahony and Michael Peirce/pierce are Satoshi, based on a paper that they authored concerning digital payments, along with Hitesh Tewari, based on a book that they published together. O’Mahony and Tewari also studied at Trinity College, where Michael Clear, a graduate cryptography student at Dublin's Trinity College was a student.

Of course we could go all the way around the clock and get back to Nick Szabo etc etc but who would like to wager a slice of pizza on who satoshi really is/are?


Yes you are correct.Very clever way to put things too.E-cash is the source of the Nile regarding Bitcoin.Then came opencoin which is now ripple however opencoin started before bitcoin and then later changed to ripple and headed up by McCaleb who is another contender.Here look at this further info for comparisons to see all related project types that correolate and if cross checking show similarities.


https://opencoin.org  Originally named Opencoin and renamed Ripple,Ryan Fugger conceived Ripple in 2004 ...(andreessen/Chris Larsen,Jed McCaleb. etc etc)Began 2007.The Plan to Unite Bitcoin With All Other Online


History

The initial project was funded by the LDA, and brought together a team interested in law, cryptography, software, money theory, mobile phone development. This team produced the protocol, a first iteration of software, a legal report and a cryptographic report.

Now, after a break of about a years time, the project is getting momentum again, with usuable software being developed, and a strong desire to get it used in the real world.

"Our electronic cash system is based on the invention by David Chaum, http://www.chaum.com/articles/Security_Wthout_Identification.htm

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/2389681_The_Power_of_RSA_Inversion_Oracles_and_the_Security_of_Chaum's_RSA-Based_Blind_Signature_Scheme who delivered the basic cryptographic building block. Those blocks can then be used to setup a flow of communication, which gets standarized into a protocol."

Opencoin has developed such a protocol, and the protocol got a first audit by cryptographic experts. Result: 'we did not fall off our chairs laughing' - no obvious flaws were found.






http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-bitcoin-and-ripple

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August 25, 2017, 07:44:08 AM
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Whoever posted that Blockstream bit is a genius.

No further comments on my duck encounter.   Roll Eyes   

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August 25, 2017, 07:49:05 AM
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On the way back to NSA headquarters, Blockstream psyops engineer theymos gave a statement by phone, saying "As a long-time employee of BitMain, I am proud to have been even a small part of this grand achievement, brought to you by the great folks at the Bitcoin Foundation. While Goldman Sachs does not always get the best reputation, I think that our actions here have thoroughly proven that the Bilderberg Group is merely a normal, benevolent group of people."



I dont think Bitmain would employ him.Is that not Mr Jihan Wu outfit aka the big block/2x arch enemy?

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August 25, 2017, 07:57:32 AM
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Odd that you provided a link that's been broken for some time. Try this one: https://web.archive.org/web/20111006095633/http://www.scss.tcd.ie:80/~clearm/bitcoin.html


Ok thanks.It's an old link so he must have taken it down.

I was alluding to where did you glean it from?

I forget where it came from maybe off the forum here somewhere.Another theory suggests that computer scientists Donal O'Mahony and Michael Peirce/pierce are Satoshi, based on a paper that they authored concerning digital payments, along with Hitesh Tewari, based on a book that they published together. O’Mahony and Tewari also studied at Trinity College, where Michael Clear, a graduate cryptography student at Dublin's Trinity College was a student.

Of course we could go all the way around the clock and get back to Nick Szabo etc etc but who would like to wager a slice of pizza on who satoshi really is/are?


Yes you are correct.Very clever way to put things too.E-cash is the source of the Nile regarding Bitcoin.Then came opencoin which is now ripple however opencoin started before bitcoin and then later changed to ripple and headed up by McCaleb who is another contender.Here look at this further info for comparisons to see all related project types that correolate and if cross checking show similarities.


https://opencoin.org  Originally named Opencoin and renamed Ripple,Ryan Fugger conceived Ripple in 2004 ...(andreessen/Chris Larsen,Jed McCaleb. etc etc)Began 2007.The Plan to Unite Bitcoin With All Other Online


History

The initial project was funded by the LDA, and brought together a team interested in law, cryptography, software, money theory, mobile phone development. This team produced the protocol, a first iteration of software, a legal report and a cryptographic report.

Now, after a break of about a years time, the project is getting momentum again, with usuable software being developed, and a strong desire to get it used in the real world.

"Our electronic cash system is based on the invention by David Chaum, http://www.chaum.com/articles/Security_Wthout_Identification.htm

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/2389681_The_Power_of_RSA_Inversion_Oracles_and_the_Security_of_Chaum's_RSA-Based_Blind_Signature_Scheme who delivered the basic cryptographic building block. Those blocks can then be used to setup a flow of communication, which gets standarized into a protocol."

Opencoin has developed such a protocol, and the protocol got a first audit by cryptographic experts. Result: 'we did not fall off our chairs laughing' - no obvious flaws were found.






http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-bitcoin-and-ripple

11 years later, Julien Lamarche is a Bitcoiner: ref. https://web.archive.org/web/20060412004047/http://ripple.python-hosted.com:80/


On the way back to NSA headquarters, Blockstream psyops engineer theymos gave a statement by phone, saying "As a long-time employee of BitMain, I am proud to have been even a small part of this grand achievement, brought to you by the great folks at the Bitcoin Foundation. While Goldman Sachs does not always get the best reputation, I think that our actions here have thoroughly proven that the Bilderberg Group is merely a normal, benevolent group of people."



I dont think Bitmain would employ him.Is that not Mr Jihan Wu outfit aka the big block/2x arch enemy?


Whoever posted that Blockstream bit is a genius.

No further comments on my duck encounter.   Roll Eyes   

James Simons is all I'm saying.  Tongue Tongue Tongue
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August 25, 2017, 08:02:11 AM
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@x2666, sorry mate, I did not come here to argue, I came here to read smart people's opinions. I just don't think TRB will be IXCoin, I am not buying it, no offence.
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August 25, 2017, 08:04:53 AM
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Michael Linton, originally from the UK, has been active in community currency development since 1982 when he designed and began the first LETSystem in the Comox Valley, in western Canada. Previously, and briefly, he was a physicist, chemical engineer, computer programmer, business school graduate (MBA), research psychologist, truck-driver, ski instructor, school teacher, builder, fisherman, logger and retailer. He is also a qualified teacher of the Alexander Technique. He is now a systems designer, working primarily on systems for open society. For his most recent work, and links to earlier publications - www.openmoney.org
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August 25, 2017, 08:11:36 AM
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James Simons is all I'm saying.  Tongue Tongue Tongue


Do you think he is Satoshi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons

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August 25, 2017, 08:27:27 AM
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What's this about.  You've thrown out like 3 names now but with nothing backing them up. 

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August 25, 2017, 09:24:44 AM
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@Vlad2Vlad, @x2666 And one more thing, Bitcoin's max supply is 21 million.
What is IXcoin's max supply? Also 21 million? 912 more coins to be mined are left.

If the supply is 21 million only for IXcoin, it means it is 99.99565714285714% already distributed and I highly doubt it many people hold it, my estimate is around 0.001% at best of the BTC's distribution (people that hold it).

This means that IXcoin is highly centralized held be a few, very easy to manipulate it.

So yes, I call bullshit on IXcoin, TRB(whichever will be) is much better than this.
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Thanks to Julien Lamarche, we have a nice little promo button! Now, anyone want to design a new logo?



Ripple was inspired by the LETS concept and the writings of Michael Linton, and was conceived originally as a way to bring more accountability into the spending of credits in a LETS system. Unlike LETS, which only tracks obligations to and from a single central intermediary, Ripple tracks obligations between individuals in a social network. In practice, many LETS users and administrators have complained that LETS provides little incentive to make good on one's obligations other than the desire to have the system work. In Ripple, obligations are never to "the system", or to some other collective entity, but in specific amounts to specific individuals who have agreed to trust you, and the loss of whose trust would have a tangible effect on a participant's life should they decide to renege on their obligations.
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August 25, 2017, 05:13:43 PM
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This means that IXcoin is highly centralized held be a few, very easy to manipulate it.

So yes, I call bullshit on IXcoin, TRB(whichever will be) is much better than this.


We've openly posted the holding distribution in a bubble chart, we have a chain explorer. Of course it isn't as decentralized in holdings as Bitcoin but this doesn't preclude it from success. It is relatively well distributed and there is nothing preventing people from buying. Regardless, there is nothing particularly wrong with large holders of a chain, as long as they obtained their holdings legitimately. In fact, many of the top coins have massively centralized distributions and that appears to have helped them in propping up the price.

If you don't believe in Ixcoin, ok, sure, but I think it's pretty stupid to be posting in Ixcoin threads then.

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August 25, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
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This means that IXcoin is highly centralized held be a few, very easy to manipulate it.

So yes, I call bullshit on IXcoin, TRB(whichever will be) is much better than this.


We've openly posted the holding distribution in a bubble chart, we have a chain explorer. Of course it isn't as decentralized in holdings as Bitcoin but this doesn't preclude it from success. It is relatively well distributed and there is nothing preventing people from buying. Regardless, there is nothing particularly wrong with large holders of a chain, as long as they obtained their holdings legitimately. In fact, many of the top coins have massively centralized distributions and that appears to have helped them in propping up the price.

If you don't believe in Ixcoin, ok, sure, but I think it's pretty stupid to be posting in Ixcoin threads then.

I am not against IXcoin, I don't care where did you get this. I just can not imagine why anyone would buy the coin that was mined only by a few, using limited resources, not giving ANY proper energy or anything to back it in past. This coin can't have 4300$ price per coin, it cannot be valuable that much cause it doesn't have proper  power spent to mine it.

With bitcoin, if I don't want to buy them from you, I buy myself a video card back in 2012, or an ASIC now and I still can mine my bitcoin not thinking about the price if I plan to sell only at a chosen by me price.

IXcoin is the original COPY of bitcoin, it will have a proper use in crypto world, but I can't imagine in what universe it will be so much adopted and bought to replace TRB.

And I am sorry I offended your feelings, remember we're in a public forum, look around, are my comments the worst? If so, I really don't care.

If I decided to post in this topic I decided and I don't need your permission to write here, from this to making me stupid is unfortunate, but that's it.
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lol you didn't offend my feelings  Roll Eyes

But of course I'm going to defend Ixcoin. You could mine Ixcoin with a graphics card back in 2011 as well. You can still mine for fees now, though it is not rewarding a block payout, something which I think should be changed with a soft fork of the premine.

Ixcoin is the original copy of bitcoin, it is the second altcoin ever. Use of Ixcoin doesn't necessitate it surpassing Bitcoin and any changes or features implemented to Bitcoin or any other coin can be brought to Ixcoin if we come together to do it.

I think it's better to not put a great deal of effort into marketing a coin, allowing people to participate if they wish, rather than taking out huge spaces to advertise it, starting icos, pushing it on uninformed investors. I think it's an interesting coin because it can indeed implement any changes from any other coin, it is the second oldest altcoin, it is merge mined, the creator is mysterious, used a clever anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto, and despite Ixcoin's low price only a small number of coins can even be purchased off exchanges meaning the majority are held in cold storage.

Low usage and valuation in the past and present does not necessarily mean it will never be adopted. Yes, it is not a sure shot but it is an interesting rhetorical position so I and many others choose to hold and stay involved.  

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August 25, 2017, 09:21:30 PM
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Low usage and valuation in the past and present does not necessarily mean it will never be adopted. Yes, it is not a sure shot but it is an interesting rhetorical position so I and many others choose to hold and stay involved.  

That's what I think so too, it has a future and I choose to investigate and explore IXcoin and any coin has something original. It is the original copy(sounds great Cheesy ) of bitcoin so this already means something, second coin.
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August 25, 2017, 09:29:06 PM
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Low usage and valuation in the past and present does not necessarily mean it will never be adopted. Yes, it is not a sure shot but it is an interesting rhetorical position so I and many others choose to hold and stay involved.  

That's what I think so too, it has a future and I choose to investigate and explore IXcoin and any coin has something original. It is the original copy(sounds great Cheesy ) of bitcoin so this already means something, second coin.

Second coin?  Sounds prophetic like the second coming. Haha.  It Just might be that!

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Is it the end for SHA 256 coins (besides bitcoin)? It seems miners have given up on them.
SHA 256 coins are not doing well unlike other coins like DASH, ETH and LTC.

     

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August 26, 2017, 03:13:35 AM
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This is what I see:

BTC -- Over bearing more powerful of the brothers.

LTC: the Work force more nimble of the brothers.

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/900451482884952064

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This is what I see:

BTC -- Over bearing more powerful of the brothers.

LTC: the Work force more nimble of the brothers.

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/900451482884952064



I can only speak for myself, but I think Charlie Lee is a dork. Litecoin has been declining from its high of .02 btc for quite awhile now and he's constantly declaring victory off of the usd value increases coming from Bitcoin's rise. Charlie Lee posts price predictions and what I see as exceedingly lame memes on a daily basis. Rocket Chicken Moon, wow. So wowe. I see all kind of idiots talking about $1,000 Litecoin and how great Charlie is and how he is constantly working... I don't see it!

Furthermore he has sided against BCH and with the Blockstream corporation simply because he wants his lightning network to enable atomic transactions between Litecoin and BTC in the default wallet. I do not support such transactions and I do not view the current BTC as the legitimate successor to the pre-fork Bitcoin. Charlie is all about Nodes being more important than hashpower. I don't see how raspberry pi nodes that cost $10 and can be put up en masse is more valuable than the hashpower which takes millions of dollars to acquire. Why would you determine the valid upgrade by something so insignificant and manipulable? User Activated Soft Fork, UASF, just a lie to make the little guy feel fuzzy.  It's a marketing gimmick.

Vlad has long ago said that Litecoin was not the intention of his riddle and if you read you would know it's been solved for years.

XIC is Litecoin?

No.  It's not.  It requires a little research - but you may get lucky with a guess.
That's post #11.

You really want to get behind the guy who posts stupid shit like this?



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August 26, 2017, 08:26:10 AM
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This is what I see:

BTC -- Over bearing more powerful of the brothers.

LTC: the Work force more nimble of the brothers.

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/900451482884952064



I can only speak for myself, but I think Charlie Lee is a dork. Litecoin has been declining from its high of .02 btc for quite awhile now and he's constantly declaring victory off of the usd value increases coming from Bitcoin's rise. Charlie Lee posts price predictions and what I see as exceedingly lame memes on a daily basis. Rocket Chicken Moon, wow. So wowe. I see all kind of idiots talking about $1,000 Litecoin and how great Charlie is and how he is constantly working... I don't see it!

Furthermore he has sided against BCH and with the Blockstream corporation simply because he wants his lightning network to enable atomic transactions between Litecoin and BTC in the default wallet. I do not support such transactions and I do not view the current BTC as the legitimate successor to the pre-fork Bitcoin. Charlie is all about Nodes being more important than hashpower. I don't see how raspberry pi nodes that cost $10 and can be put up en masse is more valuable than the hashpower which takes millions of dollars to acquire. Why would you determine the valid upgrade by something so insignificant and manipulable? User Activated Soft Fork, UASF, just a lie to make the little guy feel fuzzy.  It's a marketing gimmick.

Vlad has long ago said that Litecoin was not the intention of his riddle and if you read you would know it's been solved for years.

XIC is Litecoin?

No.  It's not.  It requires a little research - but you may get lucky with a guess.
That's post #11.

You really want to get behind the guy who posts stupid shit like this?



Not me.

I really agree with what you're saying 100%.  That's how I've seen litecoin and Charlie Lee from the beginning and I'm surprised people still fall for the LTC is silver nonsense.  If you repeat it enough times...

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