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January 17, 2017, 01:08:58 AM
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Trump!!!

I think president Trump is gonna pass some huge unexpected laws that will massively accelerate Bitcoin/crypto adoption.  And he's gonna do it early in his first term.

The Treasury is a department of the Executive Branch; thus, the President controls it.  People think this won't happen since that's what Kennedy tried and he went home early.  

But this time it's different.  Very different and I think this will be the route to mass adoption - to bypass the fed.  There should be a *cough* in there somewhere.  I'll let you figure that part out.

This is gonna get really really exciting when it finally happens.  ETF then Trump-time.  

Unworldly price run, which, BTW, is the real reason the Chinese exchanges just removed the margin leverage.

<with apologies for being on-topic  Cry>

The following timeline is not beyond the realm of possibility:

October 2008: Satoshi pens Bitcoin white paper during Bush administration:
Next 8 years: Obama in office while Bitcoin gets its legs.
January 2017: Trump takes office.
Forward: NSA et al. is very, very, very happy now that ...

The data center is alleged to be able to process "all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Internet searches, as well as all types of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital 'pocket litter' [not to mention Bitcoin and other current and future blockchain-based currencies]."

Emphasized content within brackets mine. Think about it. The general consensus is that the world's financial sector is on the verge of collapse, so enter Bitcoin et al. to save the day under the watch of a clown operated by strings. (TBC, me's no Hilary et al. fan)

Oh, and if you think [or known] that I'm crazy, consider the following:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/homeland-security-to-use-blockchain-in-tracking-goods-people-globally

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Several financial institutions and banks that are looking into the implementation of Blockchain-based platforms are attempting to lay their Blockchain technologies on top of existing systems. The goal behind launching a Blockchain project on a pre-existing system is to have two core networks co-exist and thus provide more security and efficiency to their consumers.

Kevin McAleenan, deputy commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, believes that either way, Blockchain technology will be applied to a wide range of applications and platforms that are operated by the DHS in the near future.


"Then we got Trump elected president and blamed it on the Russians, backing up our pseudo claims with our very own leaked dossier."

<expanding upon the expressed, with apologies for quoting myself>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgrqs_m5g7A



http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/ci_12735293

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The agency is building a similar center in San Antonio at the site of a former Sony microchip plant.


"Then I told the joke of you might be an NSA redneck if you prefer relocating to our mega data center in Texas with your one wife oppose to relocating to our mega data center in Utah, there claiming to be a Mormon so to enjoy more than one wife."

http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/news/ci_12744661

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The National Security Agency was so confident that its nearly $2 billion plan for a new data center in Utah would be approved by Congress that it began designing the facility last November.

Let's see here, doing the math, the above article was published on July 2, 2009, ergo the November spoketh of would've been November 2008. Satoshi Nakamoto's white paper was released on ... wait for it ... October 31, 2008. What are the odds?
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January 17, 2017, 07:15:14 AM
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Let's see here, doing the math, the above article was published on July 2, 2009, ergo the November spoketh of would've been November 2008. Satoshi Nakamoto's white paper was released on ... wait for it ... October 31, 2008. What are the odds?

Good research.  Good maths. 

President trump could reverse these laws but my guess is he won't and in fact he will add to them. 

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Let's see here, doing the math, the above article was published on July 2, 2009, ergo the November spoketh of would've been November 2008. Satoshi Nakamoto's white paper was released on ... wait for it ... October 31, 2008. What are the odds?

Good research.  Good maths. 

President trump could reverse these laws but my guess is he won't and in fact he will add to them. 

Whatever! The next thing you'll be telling us is that Trump will dismantle Obamacare after he expands it via throwing more money at it prior to replacing it with something just as, if not more sinister than Obamacare. Oh, wait ...

The only saving grace is that Trump hasn't populated his cabinet with billionaires who can't wait to take a cut in pay so to serve their country. Oh, wait again ...

TBC, I voted for the goofball because voting for his opponent would've made me the goofball, and I already get enough googballness from <I have no fuckin idea what I'm tryin to say here, but did learnt that I've been spelling fuckin and tryin incorrectly by formally including single quote mark thingies unnecessarily>
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Whatever! The next thing you'll be telling us is that Trump will dismantle Obamacare after he expands it via throwing more money at it prior to replacing it with something just as, if not more sinister than Obamacare. Oh, wait ...

The only saving grace is that Trump hasn't populated his cabinet with billionaires who can't wait to take a cut in pay so to serve their country. Oh, wait again ...

TBC, I voted for the goofball because voting for his opponent would've made me the goofball, and I already get enough googballness from <I have no fuckin idea what I'm tryin to say here, but did learnt that I've been spelling fuckin and tryin incorrectly by formally including single quote mark thingies unnecessarily>

I have high hopes for Trump.  If he just keeps half his promises we're good to go.

I just feel like really hard times are coming and there's no way out of that regardless of who is president. 

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Whatever! The next thing you'll be telling us is that Trump will dismantle Obamacare after he expands it via throwing more money at it prior to replacing it with something just as, if not more sinister than Obamacare. Oh, wait ...

The only saving grace is that Trump hasn't populated his cabinet with billionaires who can't wait to take a cut in pay so to serve their country. Oh, wait again ...

TBC, I voted for the goofball because voting for his opponent would've made me the goofball, and I already get enough googballness from <I have no fuckin idea what I'm tryin to say here, but did learnt that I've been spelling fuckin and tryin incorrectly by formally including single quote mark thingies unnecessarily>

I have high hopes for Trump.  If he just keeps half his promises we're good to go.

I just feel like really hard times are coming and there's no way out of that regardless of who is president.  

Newsflash: Obamacare to be replaced with Trumpcare, and if the new prez keeps half his promise, only 14M would lose insurance coverage oppose to 28M (somebody check my math cause I was never good at multiplying 1/2 fraction thingies).
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January 19, 2017, 10:00:23 PM
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Earth Muppets:  Last Call!!!


[Bitcoin Magazine] - Blockstream Releases Sidechain White Paper on Liquid and Strong Federations
Jan 19, 20172:28 PM EST by Giulio Prisco

The seminal Bitcoin sidechains white paper “Enabling Blockchain Innovations with Pegged Sidechains,” released in 2014 by a team that went on to form Blockstream, a leading company in the blockchain space, envisaged an ecosystem of “sidechains” separate from the main Bitcoin blockchain but interoperable with it via peg mechanisms.

A sidechain can carry bitcoin as currency, in which case users will be able to seamlessly transfer bitcoin between the sidechain and the main blockchain. A sidechain can implement more powerful scripting features or more watertight privacy. Increased throughput is another key improvement over Bitcoin that can be implemented in a sidechain.

In 2015, Bitcoin Magazine covered Blockstream’s plans for the first commercial Bitcoin sidechain, code-named, “Liquid,” able to provide instant transactions with a fast settlement layer for bitcoin exchanges, brokerages and other industry members. “As its main advantage, Liquid provides instant and secure transactions among all users of the sidechain,” claims Blockstream. “While Bitcoin transactions can typically take up to an hour to be sufficiently secured by the blockchain, Liquid offers a similar level of security within seconds.”

Now Blockstream has released another white paper, titled  "Strong Federations: An Interoperable Blockchain Solution to Centralized Third Party Risks.” The new white paper introduces improvements over the federated peg mechanism mentioned in the first white paper. In particular, the consensus mechanism and trust model have been updated; mechanisms that allow settlement back to a parent chain in case of failure have also been introduced.

In essence, Strong Federations are cleverly constructed multisig addresses, where bitcoins are “locked in.” These bitcoins can be unlocked only if enough key holders agree the payment is valid. This setup can make for publicly verifiable, Byzantine-robust transaction networks that facilitate movement of any asset among disparate markets, without requiring centralized trust in any single party. It can also provide commercial privacy, with support for transactions where asset types and amounts are opaque while preserving the public verifiability inherent to Bitcoin

The new white paper consolidates and expands the initial concept of Liquid, which is now presented as a first implementation of a Strong Federation. “The first working implementation of a Strong Federation is Liquid — a Bitcoin exchange and brokerage multi-signature sidechain that bypasses Bitcoin’s inherent limitations while leveraging its security properties,” note the authors. In Liquid, “consensus history is a blockchain where every block is signed by the majority of a deterministic, globally-distributed set of functionaries running on hardened platforms, a methodology that directly aligns incentives for the participants.”

According to Blockstream, Strong Federations will be useful in many general-purpose industries, especially those that need secure and private exchange of digital assets, without a single party that controls the custodianship, execution and settling of transactions.

“This new construction establishes a security profile inherently superior to existing methods of rapid transfer and settlement among exchanges and brokerages, and is directly applicable to other problems within existing financial institutions,” note Blockstream experts Johnny Dilley, Jonathan Wilkins and Marta Piekarska, co-authors of the white paper.

It’s worth noting that, contrary to the current trend toward sanitized, “permissioned” non-Bitcoin blockchains that deliberately disown the libertarian attitude of early Bitcoin adopters, the Blockstream approach remains anchored to the public Bitcoin blockchain and informed by a commitment to privacy and liberty.

“Our efforts focus on developing systems that protect individual liberty through cryptographic mechanisms as the right to privacy is one of the essential components of a free society,” the authors of the white paper state. “Liquid and Strong Federations attempt to improve upon the privacy guarantees offered by Bitcoin, whose open-by-default model often results in users inadvertently leaking personally-identifying information.”

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January 20, 2017, 05:13:09 AM
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Blockstream guys are a bunch of dumb asses. IMO  Cheesy

All coins are permissioned, None are permissionless.

Here is why PoW is Permissioned, ( mined on a CPU or ASIC)
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Permissions Required to generate a PoW Block if you Mine it
1.  Permission from the ASICS seller , to buy their ASIC.
2.  Permission from your local Govenment to allow the ASIC to be shipped to you.
3   Permission from the Electric Company to power your ASIC.
4.  Permission from the Mining pool you have to join because group mining is your only shot
5.  Permission from your ISP , so you have internet access to attempt to mine it.
6.  Permission from the original programmer thru the Open Source License granted so you can run the software.
If you pay someone else to mine it , You need their permission and acceptance of your currency.

Permissions Required if you just buy it. (Same for PoW & PoS)
1.  Permission from the Exchange
2.  Permission from the Seller

Free Faucet  (Same for PoW & PoS)
1.  Permission from the one running the faucet

Hopefully we can put that falsehood permissioned verses permissionless to rest , because nothing peeves me more that hearing the same lie more than once.
There are No Permissionless systems in crypto.

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FYI2:
Locking BTC up onchain, does not actually move the BTC onto a side chain, that is just stupidity on their part.
Also offchain or sidechains both hold the potential to introduce counterfeiting & fractional reserve systems into crypto.
(Onchain transactions can not be counterfeit and they can not run fractional reserves with it onchain, which is why offchain/sidechain is just the banking scum worming their way into crypto.)  Tongue
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January 20, 2017, 07:48:17 AM
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Great post.  I've always felt the same way, there is no such thing as a trustless or permissionless chain.  No anonymity or decentralization either.  Just varying degrees which can and will be easily altered with time/adoption.

But you can't blame blockstream, the anarchists and libertarians, who probably make up 90% of crypto were sold on this pipe dream and will have a meltdown if they're woken up abruptly. 

That said, I don't agree with your latter points about sidechains, although I'm not a techie.  Counterfeiting won't be possible without being easily and instantly caught and tracked infinitely easier than with fiat.  So that is a moot point.  And they will not use offchain - at least not for the 7.4 billion monkeys, that would defeat the whole purpose of the block and chain protocol. 

As for fractional reserve banking:  DUH!!! 

How many lies are people gonna actually eat?  All of these things were fairly common sense unless one was gullible or delusional.  You didn't even need to understand the tech, just the way of the world and human nature.  Even now there have been multiple large scale cases of fractional reserve banking using Bitcoin.  Call it the nature of the beast, or the natural regression of things.  It's simply gonna happen and no muppet is gonna stop it.

Blockstream has the best crypto coders in the world, and for all you know they're secretly working with Satoshi, so whatever they come up with will go mainstream and it will be completely secure and counterfeit proof. 

Enjoy the sidechain show; I know I will.  Smiley


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Blockstream guys are a bunch of dumb asses. IMO  Cheesy

All coins are permissioned, None are permissionless.

Here is why PoW is Permissioned, ( mined on a CPU or ASIC)
Facts
Permissions Required to generate a PoW Block if you Mine it
1.  Permission from the ASICS seller , to buy their ASIC.
2.  Permission from your local Govenment to allow the ASIC to be shipped to you.
3   Permission from the Electric Company to power your ASIC.
4.  Permission from the Mining pool you have to join because group mining is your only shot
5.  Permission from your ISP , so you have internet access to attempt to mine it.
6.  Permission from the original programmer thru the Open Source License granted so you can run the software.
If you pay someone else to mine it , You need their permission and acceptance of your currency.

Permissions Required if you just buy it. (Same for PoW & PoS)
1.  Permission from the Exchange
2.  Permission from the Seller

Free Faucet  (Same for PoW & PoS)
1.  Permission from the one running the faucet

Hopefully we can put that falsehood permissioned verses permissionless to rest , because nothing peeves me more that hearing the same lie more than once.
There are No Permissionless systems in crypto.

 Cool

FYI2:
Locking BTC up onchain, does not actually move the BTC onto a side chain, that is just stupidity on their part.
Also offchain or sidechains both hold the potential to introduce counterfeiting & fractional reserve systems into crypto.
(Onchain transactions can not be counterfeit and they can not run fractional reserves with it onchain, which is why offchain/sidechain is just the banking scum worming their way into crypto.)  Tongue

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Great post.  I've always felt the same way, there is no such thing as a trustless or permissionless chain.  No anonymity or decentralization either.  Just varying degrees which can and will be easily altered with time/adoption.

But you can't blame blockstream, the anarchists and libertarians, who probably make up 90% of crypto were sold on this pipe dream and will have a meltdown if they're woken up abruptly.  

That said, I don't agree with your latter points about sidechains, although I'm not a techie.  Counterfeiting won't be possible without being easily and instantly caught and tracked infinitely easier than with fiat.  So that is a moot point.  And they will not use offchain - at least not for the 7.4 billion monkeys, that would defeat the whole purpose of the block and chain protocol.  

As for fractional reserve banking:  DUH!!!  

How many lies are people gonna actually eat?  All of these things were fairly common sense unless one was gullible or delusional.  You didn't even need to understand the tech, just the way of the world and human nature.  Even now there have been multiple large scale cases of fractional reserve banking using Bitcoin.  Call it the nature of the beast, or the natural regression of things.  It's simply gonna happen and no muppet is gonna stop it.

Blockstream has the best crypto coders in the world, and for all you know they're secretly working with Satoshi, so whatever they come up with will go mainstream and it will be completely secure and counterfeit proof.  

Enjoy the sidechain show; I know I will.  Smiley



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Lightening Network will be an OffChain BTC Payment network.   Shocked
It will allow a fractional reserve type system to be installed, after that counterfeiting coins is a small step.
Offchain systems do not have the verification protections of an OnChain System.


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January 21, 2017, 10:34:17 PM
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Meanwhile, in America...

Crazy lefties continue to riot in the streets even after president Trump's inauguration.  This is what I expected, ~18 months ago, when I predicted Trump would win, only I expected worse and sooner.

This should escalate [quickly] until a spark sets off the next phase:  Martial Law!

Western Europe is ready to "flame on" and president Putin, who was starting to actually grow on me, has decided to take advantage of the coming global chaos and play geographical chess with Romania.  Moldova's got back now, so their starving asses grew a set and are hinting that half of Romania is theirs, and no doubt the Hungarian mongols and the impoverished Bulgarians will join the raping and pillaging of Romania.

It's gonna be raining [dead] men. 

Soooooo much fun is about to start and everybody's got front-row seats. 

Enjoy!

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Meanwhile, in America...

Crazy lefties continue to riot in the streets even after president Trump's inauguration.  This is what I expected, ~18 months ago, when I predicted Trump would win, only I expected worse and sooner.

This should escalate [quickly] until a spark sets off the next phase:  Martial Law!

Western Europe is ready to "flame on" and president Putin, who was starting to actually grow on me, has decided to take advantage of the coming global chaos and play geographical chess with Romania.  Moldova's got back now, so their starving asses grew a set and are hinting that half of Romania is theirs, and no doubt the Hungarian mongols and the impoverished Bulgarians will join the raping and pillaging of Romania.

It's gonna be raining [dead] men. 

Soooooo much fun is about to start and everybody's got front-row seats. 

Enjoy!

I cannot confirm nor deny that this man at the Trump inauguration with the strange hat is part of the lizard people world overlords



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Meanwhile, in America...

Crazy lefties continue to riot in the streets even after president Trump's inauguration.  This is what I expected, ~18 months ago, when I predicted Trump would win, only I expected worse and sooner.

This should escalate [quickly] until a spark sets off the next phase:  Martial Law!

Western Europe is ready to "flame on" and president Putin, who was starting to actually grow on me, has decided to take advantage of the coming global chaos and play geographical chess with Romania.  Moldova's got back now, so their starving asses grew a set and are hinting that half of Romania is theirs, and no doubt the Hungarian mongols and the impoverished Bulgarians will join the raping and pillaging of Romania.

It's gonna be raining [dead] men. 

Soooooo much fun is about to start and everybody's got front-row seats. 

Enjoy!

I cannot confirm nor deny that this man at the Trump inauguration with the strange hat is part of the lizard people world overlords





Dude, your post inspired a solution to my last post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1758483.msg17580771#msg17580771
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I cannot confirm nor deny that this man at the Trump inauguration with the strange hat is part of the lizard people world overlords






That guy is definitely illuminati - check out all the symbols he's flashing.

And what's up with all those people wearing a communist star instead of the US flag?  Clearly these are all Russian spies.  Grin


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I cannot confirm nor deny that this man at the Trump inauguration with the strange hat is part of the lizard people world overlords






That guy is definitely illuminati - check out all the symbols he's flashing.

And what's up with all those people wearing a communist star instead of the US flag?  Clearly these are all Russian spies.  Grin



Actually, that's the Star of David and the two black dudes are Rabbis (and mes thinks that one has a glass eye, the one humming Mr. Bojangles).
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Actually, that's the Star of David and the two black dudes are Rabbis (and mes thinks that one has a glass eye, the one humming Mr. Bojangles).

You're obviously not an illuminati expert, like myself.  That's not the Shield of David 🇮🇱 [which has 6 points].

No, These infiltrators are either communist spies or undercover Wendy's staff, which I think is a front for the illuminati.  Either way president Trump has been compromised; someone needs to get me into the Oval Office with him so I can warn him [and so I can sell him on iXcoin and uh, *cough* get me a selfie with the king].  Sad, real sad, but fakebook's got me by my nuts.

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Actually, that's the Star of David and the two black dudes are Rabbis (and mes thinks that one has a glass eye, the one humming Mr. Bojangles).

You're obviously not an illuminati expert, like myself.  That's not the Shield of David 🇮🇱 [which has 6 points].

No, These infiltrators are either communist spies or undercover Wendy's staff, which I think is a front for the illuminati.  Either way president Trump has been compromised; someone needs to get me into the Oval Office with him so I can warn him [and so I can sell him on iXcoin and uh, *cough* get me a selfie with the king].  Sad, real sad, but fakebook's got me by my nuts.

My bad! THERE ... ARE ... ONLY ... FIVE ...POINTS !!!

Meanwhile, ...


"You call that a Pussyhat? This is a Pussyhat!"


"Now let me show you my Grand Poobah Hat."
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Actually, that's the Star of David and the two black dudes are Rabbis (and mes thinks that one has a glass eye, the one humming Mr. Bojangles).

You're obviously not an illuminati expert, like myself.  That's not the Shield of David 🇮🇱 [which has 6 points].

No, These infiltrators are either communist spies or undercover Wendy's staff, which I think is a front for the illuminati.  Either way president Trump has been compromised; someone needs to get me into the Oval Office with him so I can warn him [and so I can sell him on iXcoin and uh, *cough* get me a selfie with the king].  Sad, real sad, but fakebook's got me by my nuts.

My bad! THERE ... ARE ... ONLY ... FIVE ...POINTS !!!

Meanwhile, ...


"You call that a Pussyhat? This is a Pussyhat!"


"Now let me show you my Grand Poobah Hat."

Don't forget the "Let them eat tacos hat" used while banning 90% of the paper notes in circulation

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Don't forget the "Let them eat tacos hat" used while banning 90% of the paper notes in circulation


Speaking of India banning ~86% of the notes, I think it's a market test for places like America.  So it's interesting to watch.  Many there, especially in rural areas have turned to bartering.  One huge wild card in America:  GUNS!!!  Lots and lots of guns.  So they'll have to figure out a way to get rid of those first.

Enter Martial Law...


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Don't forget the "Let them eat tacos hat" used while banning 90% of the paper notes in circulation


Speaking of India banning ~86% of the notes, I think it's a market test for places like America.  So it's interesting to watch.  Many there, especially in rural areas have turned to bartering.  One huge wild card in America:  GUNS!!!  Lots and lots of guns.  So they'll have to figure out a way to get rid of those first.

Enter Martial Law...



... or control the distribution of gunpowder.
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... or control the distribution of gunpowder.

Too late.

It is estimated 12 BILLION rounds of ammunition are sold each year in the USA. Not all of that ammo is shot off each year so it is reasonable to assume the total number of rounds in the US - just in civilian hands alone is in the tens of billions.

Which is why the only way to disarm the US of A is by force, be it economic or outright civil war.

The Feds bought a few billion rounds over the past few years.  They must be expecting a flurry of Canadian geese.

I'm hoping the Trump win was truly unexpected cause then at least we'll get an audible which could be fun or maybe, a complete backfire.  They dug their own graves sort of thing.  A revival of sorts. 

Whatever happens over the next few years, one thing is for sure, it ain't gonna be normal.  The country may split in two soon, and if so - then Obama is gonna come back for a sequel. 

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