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November 20, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
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There has been an interesting spike in the price in the midst of the general dump - possibly some accumulation finally starting?

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November 21, 2018, 01:31:35 PM
Last edit: November 21, 2018, 02:03:02 PM by Waves.support
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Dear Waves Community and Waves Team;

As you know I am founder of digilira; Turkish Lira Gateway. We are operating Turkish Lira gateway on Waves Platform since December 2017. We have managed more than 8K deposits and withdraws which is more than 13 Million Turkish Liras.

We are proud of our fast service, easy integration and I am sure that Waves Team didn’t get any ticket about complaining our service so far.

Unfortunately, on 26.06.2018 and 27.06.2018 we have faced with fraud actions by using our gateway service. I will explain the details about Coinomat related part which was happened on 26.06.2018.

On 26.06.2018 digilira had encountered a fraud money transfer. The transfer took place as an ordinary money deposit request. But soon after the corresponding bank informed us that it was a fraud transaction and request us to send money back to victim.

Note: Scammer somehow got victim’s National ID, went to the telecommunication store and claim that he lost his sim card and gets new sim card. After he got that sim card he called bank and claim that he is victim and gave the whole info about victim and got access to his bank account. He signed up our gateway by providing his cell phone, uploading National ID etc. Went throught KYC process. He made a request to deposit 37K Turkish Lira and sent from victim’s bank account.

Scammer transferred money to digilira’s bank account and our system checks and everything seems ok at that time then sends WTRY token to scammer automatically.

We traced suspect’s wallet history and find out that the suspect exchanged WTRY to WAVES and then WAVES to WBTC. (Exact amount is 1.15864958 WBTC) We informed Waves Team and Coinomat that he will use Coinomat gateway to withdraw BTC.

We were so happy that Coinomat closed gateway service and got the scammer. They claimed that they will resend WBTC back to us instead of scammer.
We refunded the victim’s money (37K Turkish Liras)

But guess what? Coinomat didn’t refund the stolen WBTC. They are still keeping our 1.15864958 WBTC . They closed the gateway, got scammers WBTC but still keeping it for themselves.
I am asking support from Waves Community and Waves Team to make pressure on Coinomat and let them give back our stolen WBTC.

To read more details and see proofs check reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wavesplatform/comments/9yqxm9/coinomat_issue_they_are_still_keeping_our_wbtc/


I am asking support from Community and Waves Team.

Thanks..

This situation remained unclear for many users so we asked Coinomat to give some clarifications concerning it Here's their response regarding this:

Taking into account that ELITE WAY DEVELOPMENT LLP, referred to as Coinomat is a private company we still believe that some clarifications on Digilira fraud transactions matter are required.

As mentioned above, due to Digilira gateway’s fast speed the scammer managed to deposit 37 000 TRY (approx. 6 800USD) and 100 000 TRY (approx.18 500 USD) the very next day.
Deposit 1: https://wavesdesk.com/tx/7B9yMfLMEDTuBrxuGaCoN8eEMicUWD2qBbTqT7idJfSP
Deposit 2: https://wavesdesk.com/tx/FD2Dd2K17DqhjGiiUVCwLjYn9GroSsnkV4Lops6jSyyG
Here at Coinomat, we apply several security methods to prevent such situations, including but not limited to block generation time, several confirmations on the blockchain and many others.

Since Coinomat provides services to the Waves Platform and within the client, we decided to provide assistance to the Digilira Gateway as they informed us of this fraud transaction, despite the fact that we don’t have any business relations with Digilira.

If you look through the first fraud transaction recipient address, you can see that he bought Waves and wBTC for deposited wTRY https://wavesdesk.com/account/3PGTVJDuHc1Tdg8aGgbzTSXHJtpBsKvVFGs [see Trade History tab] and made an attempt to withdraw the wBTC later that day: https://wavesdesk.com/tx/3aG3UFcK8FQApEknKAD9rQk8z2KKTEAGxka8gkAK5DdQ
 
We were able to stop this attempt as per point 6.1.4 of our Terms of Services:
6.1.4 Unilaterally terminate the provision of Services to the User by cancelling the Agreement and/or blocking access to the System in the following cases:
in the case of the identification of User transactions that contain signs of suspicious operation in accordance with the applicable law, law in User country of residence, international law and in accordance with AML policy, and if the Company has suspicions that the operations are carried out in violation of the requirements of the applicable law or are fraudulent in nature;


Unfortunately, we were not able to do the same for a later and larger transaction, as this time the recipient didn’t make any attempts to use our services.
Currently, the wBTC is frozen on the gateway and we’re planning to keep it that way. wBTC, just as wTRY is emitted asset, which means it is strongly bound by the amount of actual BTC and TRY on gateway’s accounts. The initial bank TRY deposit was recalled, thus making wTRY not backed by anything. Digilira is asking Coinomat to refund BTC for emitted wTRY asset which is not backed by FIAT.

In view of the aforementioned, Coinomat cannot be held responsible for third party information security system malfunctions. As per our Terms of Service any questions or uncertainties, as well as claims or the provisions of the use the Services, the user may contact our support service by email support@coinomat.com.
For further discussion please use the provided mail.
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November 21, 2018, 06:20:52 PM
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The market like sausage , I know, but a bottom may be in this wave ? the situation becomes crisis, many large investors can't sleep normally and don't give me.
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November 21, 2018, 10:49:15 PM
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Dear Waves Community and Waves Team;

As you know I am founder of digilira; Turkish Lira Gateway. We are operating Turkish Lira gateway on Waves Platform since December 2017. We have managed more than 8K deposits and withdraws which is more than 13 Million Turkish Liras.

We are proud of our fast service, easy integration and I am sure that Waves Team didn’t get any ticket about complaining our service so far.

Unfortunately, on 26.06.2018 and 27.06.2018 we have faced with fraud actions by using our gateway service. I will explain the details about Coinomat related part which was happened on 26.06.2018.


...............................

I am asking support from Waves Community and Waves Team to make pressure on Coinomat and let them give back our stolen WBTC.

To read more details and see proofs check reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wavesplatform/comments/9yqxm9/coinomat_issue_they_are_still_keeping_our_wbtc/


I am asking support from Community and Waves Team.

Thanks..

This situation remained unclear for many users so we asked Coinomat to give some clarifications concerning it Here's their response regarding this:

Taking into account that ELITE WAY DEVELOPMENT LLP, referred to as Coinomat is a private company we still believe that some clarifications on Digilira fraud transactions matter are required.

........................

In view of the aforementioned, Coinomat cannot be held responsible for third party information security system malfunctions. As per our Terms of Service any questions or uncertainties, as well as claims or the provisions of the use the Services, the user may contact our support service by email support@coinomat.com.
For further discussion please use the provided mail.

That was a fast reply from Coinomat.

I wonder why they do not respond to the questions about the Coinomat assets? They have been going on for quite a while?



The coinomat investors deserve to get their funds back, it's been 2 years ... shameful



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November 22, 2018, 05:27:55 AM
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​​Waves Platform is coming to London again! On 14 December, join their celebration of 2018 achievements in crypto and dive into their vision of how blockchain technology will become the backbone of WEB 3.0. Learn more about the event here: https://thenextweb.com/hardfork-decentralized/events/waves-new-year-meetup

And don't forget to get your FREE ticket using this link: https://earlybird.thenextweb.com/hardfork-decentralized/community-pass-wavesxy
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November 22, 2018, 12:12:03 PM
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On 14 December, join their celebration of 2018 achievements in crypto
yeeah. the annual drop quotes 10 times. can be celebrated  Grin Grin Grin
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November 22, 2018, 12:43:10 PM
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Deponent, a service that enables proving author’s rights and protects your work from piracy, is an excellent example of how one can solve real-life problems using Waves blockchain: https://medium.com/@sputnikdlt/deponent-io-to-help-copyright-protection-using-waves-blockchain-b00449d60dc5
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November 22, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
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I want to install WavesLiteClient on my Linux system. All I found on the website is a debian installation file (.deb). I do not use a debian-based system so it does not fit for my system. Can I find an alternative Linux file somewhere? A jar file for example?

All I found was waves-lite-client-mainnet-v0.5.18.zip (unpacked includes a jar file) on https://github.com/wavesplatform/WavesGUI/releases, but for one thing it does not seem to be a lite wallet and the other thing the latest version is more than half a year old.
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November 22, 2018, 07:38:17 PM
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I want to install WavesLiteClient on my Linux system. All I found on the website is a debian installation file (.deb). I do not use a debian-based system so it does not fit for my system. Can I find an alternative Linux file somewhere? A jar file for example?

All I found was waves-lite-client-mainnet-v0.5.18.zip (unpacked includes a jar file) on https://github.com/wavesplatform/WavesGUI/releases, but for one thing it does not seem to be a lite wallet and the other thing the latest version is more than half a year old.

i have installed waves-client without any problem on my ubuntu 16.04 from the official site wavesplatform.com/product
it runs without any browser.
i think that the waves-lite-app is out of date.
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November 23, 2018, 12:26:39 AM
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That was a fast reply from Coinomat.

I wonder why they do not respond to the questions about the Coinomat assets? They have been going on for quite a while?



The coinomat investors deserve to get their funds back, it's been 2 years ... shameful




Many ask this same question for 2.5 years now, why does Sasha ignore Coinomat investors ... only he knows the answer!

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November 23, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
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I want to install WavesLiteClient on my Linux system. All I found on the website is a debian installation file (.deb). I do not use a debian-based system so it does not fit for my system. Can I find an alternative Linux file somewhere? A jar file for example?

All I found was waves-lite-client-mainnet-v0.5.18.zip (unpacked includes a jar file) on https://github.com/wavesplatform/WavesGUI/releases, but for one thing it does not seem to be a lite wallet and the other thing the latest version is more than half a year old.

i have installed waves-client without any problem on my ubuntu 16.04 from the official site wavesplatform.com/product
it runs without any browser.
i think that the waves-lite-app is out of date.

Well, I think you have used the deb file which easily let you install Waves client on your Ubuntu system because Ubuntu is debain based. However - as I wrote - I do not use a debian based system. For that reason, deb file is not an option for me and therefore I need another option to install it on the Linux system. That's why I was asking. If I would use Ubuntu or an other debian based system then the question would be superfluous.
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November 23, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
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I want to install WavesLiteClient on my Linux system. All I found on the website is a debian installation file (.deb). I do not use a debian-based system so it does not fit for my system. Can I find an alternative Linux file somewhere? A jar file for example?

All I found was waves-lite-client-mainnet-v0.5.18.zip (unpacked includes a jar file) on https://github.com/wavesplatform/WavesGUI/releases, but for one thing it does not seem to be a lite wallet and the other thing the latest version is more than half a year old.

i have installed waves-client without any problem on my ubuntu 16.04 from the official site wavesplatform.com/product
it runs without any browser.
i think that the waves-lite-app is out of date.

Well, I think you have used the deb file which easily let you install Waves client on your Ubuntu system because Ubuntu is debain based. However - as I wrote - I do not use a debian based system. For that reason, deb file is not an option for me and therefore I need another option to install it on the Linux system. That's why I was asking. If I would use Ubuntu or an other debian based system then the question would be superfluous.

OK, then waiting a little you would have a response from waves support here, they visit regularly this thread.
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November 23, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
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Today, the waves are very cheap, and I am sure that this is a good time for long-term investments in this coin. I believe in the project.
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November 23, 2018, 05:36:57 PM
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Today, the waves are very cheap, and I am sure that this is a good time for long-term investments in this coin. I believe in the project.

Agreed with you all markets are down at this point so that I also think when devs are active and have good plan how to make it more useful in future than with long term goal it could give us another chance to make good profit.
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November 23, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
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That is the point when you look at Waves it's price make you feel like, oh, yes how cheaper it has become. Not buying at around $1 will be unforgettable mistake those can afford and don't take small risk. Some projects have reached at incredibly lower prices where word risk has lost its value because upon stabilization of markets these will be first rebounding markets.
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November 23, 2018, 10:24:07 PM
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Today, the waves are very cheap, and I am sure that this is a good time for long-term investments in this coin. I believe in the project.

Agreed with you all markets are down at this point so that I also think when devs are active and have good plan how to make it more useful in future than with long term goal it could give us another chance to make good profit.

Bad markets, less hype, more focus on the important stuff. Make sure you invest in projects with a strong long-term vision and orientation and just lean back and wait.

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November 23, 2018, 10:37:47 PM
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Look at how many top projects operate that have not fallen in value in relation to bitcoin, they are rallying and opposing the bear market. Maybe here too it is necessary to organize a support group? To show liquidity.
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November 24, 2018, 01:51:33 PM
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Waves is a digital currency that is unique compared to its predecessor, bitcoin. This coin can be traded and can also be used to send messages.The project is currently only experiencing a troubled and temporary period.
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November 24, 2018, 04:54:33 PM
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Waves is a digital currency that is unique compared to its predecessor, bitcoin. This coin can be traded and can also be used to send messages.The project is currently only experiencing a troubled and temporary period.
But for some reason a lot shitcoins experiencing the same thing. And this is the main indicator that in the project, something is wrong. But what is not clear. I want to hear all the same from the team, why in the presence of a huge stock of bitcoins, they can not keep the value, showing at least some fraction of liquidity.
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November 25, 2018, 03:54:25 AM
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Only $ 0,97.-
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