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November 08, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
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This reminds me of that article about the Nigerian student who proved that Gay's marriage is scientifically wrong or something

Edit: found the article lulz
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/13/nigerian-student-science-prove-gay-marriage-wrong_n_3920879.html

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November 08, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
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We are all in coma until realising it.
Yes, if I wake up or just open an eye from my coma, I become a new observer of the world. I am altering my consciousness therefore I am changing the world.
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November 08, 2013, 06:17:45 PM
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All you need to do is realize that the scientific method is essentially one of many theories of knowledge that utilizes a certain set of tools and wields certain assumptions.  Then, see that there are other (valid) theories of knowledge that utilize other tools that empirical ones do not, and may even hold fewer initial assumptions (thereby adhering more closely to Occam's Razor).

That is probably the weirdest statement I have read in a while. I didn't think aquiring knowledge could be subjected to the distinction of "theory" "hypothesis" or "fact." It also risks running into the issue of how you define "knowledge" and acquizition thereof. E.g. someone coul be claiming to be acquiring knowledge from reading tea leaves, while someone else might point out that they are only acquiring bs.

Theories can be right, wrong, large or small in scope, consistent or inconsistent, incomplete, etc.  Someone could indeed state that they believe reading tea leaves is a method by which knowledge is acquired.  Whether you think it's bs or not doesn't mean it's not a theory.  A theory is simply a explanatory description of something.

I'm not sure why you think it's weird to that's the scientific method as a theory of knowledge because that's essentially what it is.  It's the idea that one can learn about reality through empirical study.

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November 08, 2013, 11:22:22 PM
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Sorta like when you sleep, right?  You retain consciousness when you sleep but you may not be conscious.

Not at all, actually. You don't dream when you are in a coma. You black out, then you come to, and a lot of time passed without you realizing it. It's like a blink, except when you open your eyes, you may be all groggy and disoriented. It's rather scary, actually.

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November 08, 2013, 11:24:48 PM
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Yeah, like when people sleep and don't dream.

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November 08, 2013, 11:29:07 PM
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Yeah, like when people sleep and don't dream.

People dream when they sleep.  People don't dream in a coma.

Can't make it easier than that for you.   Undecided

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November 08, 2013, 11:29:53 PM
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Theories can be right, wrong, large or small in scope, consistent or inconsistent, incomplete, etc.  Someone could indeed state that they believe reading tea leaves is a method by which knowledge is acquired.  Whether you think it's bs or not doesn't mean it's not a theory.  A theory is simply a explanatory description of something.

But it's not a theory. It's their hypothesis. Or postulation. Or opinion. They have to prove that they actually aquire some knowledge from reading tea leaves, and are not just making stuff up, for it to be a theory. Unless you mean colloquial "theory," which if that is the case, then we should switch to saying "the substantiated fact of collecting knowledge through science" vs "the theory of reading tea leaves." Personally I'd rather use scientific "theory" to be coonsistent.

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I'm not sure why you think it's weird to that's the scientific method as a theory of knowledge because that's essentially what it is.  It's the idea that one can learn about reality through empirical study.

It's weird, because learning through science is an action, not a phenomenon. One that has immediate results. Results that have been done and confirmed over and over millions of times. And most importantly, because "the scientific method is the theory of knowledge" to me sounds like saying "a painting a sheet of paper red is the theory of applying red paint to paper." It's not so much a theory as it's just what it actually is.

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November 08, 2013, 11:32:30 PM
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Yeah, like when people sleep and don't dream.

People always dream. They just sometimes don'tremember their dreams. People typically have 3 to 6 different dreams a night, but you might only remember the last one. Also, it's even more than that. Even if you were right, and people could not dream when they sleep, it's still not the same, because even if you don't dream, your brain still processes, organizes, and files memories into long--term memory while you sleep. When you are in a coma, your brain just does nothing at all.

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November 09, 2013, 12:25:42 AM
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Yeah, like when people sleep and don't dream.

People always dream. They just sometimes don'tremember their dreams. People typically have 3 to 6 different dreams a night, but you might only remember the last one. Also, it's even more than that. Even if you were right, and people could not dream when they sleep, it's still not the same, because even if you don't dream, your brain still processes, organizes, and files memories into long--term memory while you sleep. When you are in a coma, your brain just does nothing at all.
And how can you make a statement such as that people always dream?  Doesn't sound very scientific.

Comas do not prove we are unconscious robot beings.

When computers learn to have a sense of humor amongst other feelings, that's when I'll believe consciousness is a phenomenon caused by neural networks, not the other way around.

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November 09, 2013, 12:36:12 AM
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Yeah, like when people sleep and don't dream.

People always dream. They just sometimes don'tremember their dreams. People typically have 3 to 6 different dreams a night, but you might only remember the last one. Also, it's even more than that. Even if you were right, and people could not dream when they sleep, it's still not the same, because even if you don't dream, your brain still processes, organizes, and files memories into long--term memory while you sleep. When you are in a coma, your brain just does nothing at all.
And how can you make a statement such as that people always dream?  Doesn't sound very scientific.

What do you want?  Research papers?  I doubt you could understand them.  It's been proven people dream in REM sleep.  Without REM sleep you could not survive.

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November 09, 2013, 12:39:12 AM
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And is that the only stage of sleep?  No?  Oh, maybe dank does know something.

I'm not even arguing against the concept of people dreaming all the time.  I'm just pointing out that Rassah debases first hand experience as evidence when he makes a statement that could only be proven by empirical data.

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November 09, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
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And is that the only stage of sleep?  No?  Oh, maybe dank does know something.

I'm not even arguing against the concept of people dreaming all the time.  I'm just pointing out that Rassah debases first hand experience as evidence when he makes a statement that could only be proven by empirical data.

REM sleep is the only part of sleep that heals and rebuilds your mental capacity.  It is required to survive.

What does it matter that there are other irrelevant parts to the sleep process?  You know nothing other than how to take your drugs.

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November 09, 2013, 02:06:40 AM
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I had enough childish insults for a night.  I know everything and that's why I know you're a shill.  So goodbye.

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November 09, 2013, 02:08:44 AM
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I had enough childish insults for a night.  I know everything and that's why I know you're a shill.  So goodbye.

You know everything, yet you are $10,000 in debt just on this forum alone, and you considered a fool on this forum.

How did THAT happen?  Couldn't you see you would become a fool (and go into debt) and make changes to your personality?  Or did you go into debt and become a nut job on purpose?

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November 09, 2013, 02:33:34 AM
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You are a paid internet shill or a very hateful person.  I don't think anybody actually hates dank that much to attack him consistently like you do.  Even the people that were going to stick a bullet in my head were doing so for fear of being killed or money.  And so I predict you are in a similar situation where you lack any real life skills so you work for the government as an internet shill.

And we will all find the truth when we die.

Goodnight vod, you are dead to me.  You'll get my love when you show me you have some in you.

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November 09, 2013, 02:38:53 AM
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Goodnight vod, you are dead to me.  You'll get my love when you show me you have some in you.

Yah, you said that before tonight, yet here you are, still replying to me.   Undecided

I don't care about you or your drug filled life.  I only want to see the forum user squall get reimbursed as you promised.

You make a payment of .42btc to him next week and you won't hear from me until the next time you miss a payment.

Until then, I'll continue to comment on your lies, even if you don't reply.  Smiley

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November 09, 2013, 02:39:47 AM
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Goodnight vod, you are dead to me.  You'll get my love when you show me you have some in you.

and WHOOPS!  You said you loved me unconditionally.  I guess that was another lie?

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November 09, 2013, 02:52:58 AM
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I love your soul vod, but I am tired of talking to your ego, it gets none.  So let me know when you find some love in you.

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November 09, 2013, 03:18:33 AM
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I love your soul vod, but I am tired of talking to your ego, it gets none.  So let me know when you find some love in you.

So I guess I'm not dead to you?  Why would you lie about that?  What perverse pleasure does it give you?

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November 09, 2013, 04:00:21 AM
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You are to me.  Because who I am talking to is not you.  I am talking to your ego, I can't recall one positive thing you said in the last year you were here.

And your ego gets no love.

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