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November 05, 2013, 06:53:44 PM |
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Just because BFL are a terrible asic company to do business with doesn't mean we should pigeon hole every other BTC Asic company as the same.
I don't think anyone would disagree with this ASIC company comparison at all. With regard to stereotyping in general, what can I say. Nobody is perfect. Our life experiences shape who we are. But yeah, a little bit of "foot-in-mouth" due to having a degree of respect for Bick. If you've never been rudely shrugged off by a Quebecois IN MONTREAL because you lack the ability to speak French, and they refuse to speak English, then, well, I guess I'm the asshole... Sorry for derailing this thread.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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November 05, 2013, 07:05:21 PM |
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Just because BFL are a terrible asic company to do business with doesn't mean we should pigeon hole every other BTC Asic company as the same.
I don't think anyone would disagree with this ASIC company comparison at all. With regard to stereotyping in general, what can I say. Nobody is perfect. Our life experiences shape who we are. But yeah, a little bit of "foot-in-mouth" due to having a degree of respect for Bick. If you've never been rudely shrugged off by a Quebecois IN MONTREAL because you lack the ability to speak French, and they refuse to speak English, then, well, I guess I'm the asshole... Sorry for derailing this thread. I hate people who apologize for derailing threads. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turkeycentral.com%2Fpublic%2Fstyle_emoticons%2Fdefault%2Fharhar1%5B1%5D.gif&t=665&c=kkl_lszWt8i5kw) ~TMIBITW
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November 05, 2013, 07:53:08 PM |
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I hate people who apologize for derailing threads. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turkeycentral.com%2Fpublic%2Fstyle_emoticons%2Fdefault%2Fharhar1%5B1%5D.gif&t=665&c=kkl_lszWt8i5kw) I hate people who... ahh... fuck it... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Bicknellski
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November 06, 2013, 07:01:55 AM |
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I hate people who hate people ergo I hate that I hate myself.
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Bicknellski
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November 06, 2013, 08:48:15 AM |
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"Currently almost 70% of all Bitcoins mined today are being created upon KnCMiner hardware, distributed to customers in over 120 countries globally." - KNC Hmmm.... wonder what Josh would have to say about that?
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Leehoya
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November 06, 2013, 09:08:37 AM |
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With that time, i will never hit my ROI
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BTCscraper
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November 06, 2013, 11:30:09 AM |
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"Currently almost 70% of all Bitcoins mined today are being created upon KnCMiner hardware, distributed to customers in over 120 countries globally." - KNC Hmmm.... wonder what Josh would have to say about that? "Butterfly Labs has shipped more units than all other ASIC manufacturers combined. Twice over."
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Butterfly Labs has a different interpretation of the FTC Mail Order Rule. You do not have a refund option with the BFL Monarch no matter how late they ship. "... In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity." -- Albert Einstein "Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more you sweat, the luckier you get." -- Ray Kroc
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Bicknellski
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November 06, 2013, 01:36:56 PM |
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"Currently almost 70% of all Bitcoins mined today are being created upon KnCMiner hardware, distributed to customers in over 120 countries globally." - KNC Hmmm.... wonder what Josh would have to say about that? "Butterfly Labs has shipped more units than all other ASIC manufacturers combined. Twice over." ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi230.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee106%2FPFC4L1FE%2Fcount_zps86acadf1.jpg&t=665&c=u8i6KO_bAmaItw)
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joeventura (OP)
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November 07, 2013, 03:41:25 AM |
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Here is Prototype #2 Seems like lots of little chips ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBBzEOv8.jpg&t=665&c=Q06W4oQgzwXdWQ)
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November 07, 2013, 03:54:42 AM |
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Awarded to Butterfly Labs, 2013 "We make computer things to make your ship go." They are "far from home" ...
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Phinnaeus Gage
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November 07, 2013, 05:13:58 AM Last edit: November 07, 2013, 05:31:59 AM by Phinnaeus Gage |
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"Currently almost 70% of all Bitcoins mined today are being created upon KnCMiner hardware, distributed to customers in over 120 countries globally." - KNC Hmmm.... wonder what Josh would have to say about that? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fassets3.thrillist.com%2Fv1%2Fu%2Fjon-snow.gif&t=665&c=UiS8AYNuSi7mkw) Since this is a Monarch update thread, who here wants to hear a little story about HashTrade? You know, HashTrade, that new company that just placed a $1M USD down payment of a multi-million dollar Monarch order so that the little guys could mine without owning any Bitcoin mining equipment, for they'll be hosted elsewhere like, I don't know, maybe Missouri? It's been all over the internet, and guess what? There's millions of smart people worldwide ready to get in on the action. Smart people like, I don't know, maybe like... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ex-astris-scientia.org%2Fobservations%2Fsamaritansnare%2F46-samaritansnare.jpg&t=665&c=qHv6YKCcG6uL4Q) Geordie, me going give you Special Olympics hug!
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Bicknellski
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November 07, 2013, 10:30:24 AM |
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Is that Josh in the "snow" having his winter of discontent?
"Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious summer by this sun of Sweden." - Josh
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Flashman
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November 12, 2013, 11:25:54 AM |
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Here is Prototype #2 Seems like lots of little chips ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBBzEOv8.jpg&t=665&c=Q06W4oQgzwXdWQ) You know what, seems like it will be their bitforce ASIC die shrunk, tweaked and tuned up running at probably closer to 1Ghz.... Which implies to me that they will have very few teething troubles with it, compared to a completely fresh design.
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Bicknellski
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November 12, 2013, 11:30:47 AM |
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Here is Prototype #2
Seems like lots of little chips
faux board image removed
You know what, seems like it will be their bitforce ASIC die shrunk, tweaked and tuned up running at probably closer to 1Ghz.... Which implies to me that they will have very few teething troubles with it, compared to a completely fresh design. More junk... nice. Evidence to support that?
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Flashman
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November 12, 2013, 12:27:29 PM |
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Use your eyes and your math skills.
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Bargraphics
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November 12, 2013, 12:34:45 PM |
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Use your eyes and your math skills.
I'll just leave this here..... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg716.imageshack.us%2Fimg716%2F5412%2Fdtbu.png&t=665&c=icd6E--3N4ApzQ)
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Bicknellski
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November 12, 2013, 01:39:26 PM |
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Use your eyes and your math skills.
LOL! Has it hashed? Evidence... is not picture... we've been down that road with BFL remember?
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Flashman
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November 12, 2013, 02:00:54 PM |
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Use your eyes and your math skills.
I'll just leave this here..... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fanonymouse.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fanon-www.cgi%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fimg716.imageshack.us%2Fimg716%2F5412%2Fdtbu.png&t=665&c=Ohu8FDpibXjGtA) Be they ASICs or nay on that test board, the number and size will be the same, therefore same inferences may be drawn... i.e about half the size of 65nm chip, implying same number of logic elements at smaller node size, divide 600 Ghash by 48 chips, you get 12.5 Ghash/chip, which when 65nm is nominal 4-4.5Ghash at 270-300Mhz-ish implies same number of engines running at 3x the speed.
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Bargraphics
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November 12, 2013, 02:06:50 PM |
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Use your eyes and your math skills.
I'll just leave this here..... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fanonymouse.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fanon-www.cgi%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fanonymouse.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fanon-www.cgi%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fanonymouse.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fanon-www.cgi%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fimg716.imageshack.us%2Fimg716%2F5412%2Fdtbu.png&t=665&c=tQmnC9Rbej7z9g) Be they ASICs or nay on that test board, the number and size will be the same, therefore same inferences may be drawn... i.e about half the size of 65nm chip, implying same number of logic elements at smaller node size, divide 600 Ghash by 48 chips, you get 12.5 Ghash/chip, which when 65nm is nominal 4-4.5Ghash at 270-300Mhz-ish implies same number of engines running at 3x the speed. LOL what? Did you not see what KnC did to test their modules? I don't even like arguing about Butterfly Labs "Chips" based on their past records ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4pQeikh.png&t=665&c=wns1rvCCkdpGFA) Keep drawing your own conclusions though...
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