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April 08, 2018, 10:17:06 PM
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OCMINER you sound like a little bit*h.  Anyone successful in business does not allow emotions to get in the way, and a lot of you other whining about verge dev team is hilarious. If you hated it so much, gtfo the network and stop mining it, yet difficulty has gone WAY up and you keep mining LOL. Bunch of jokers.

Ocminer is costing miners, BOYCOTT SUPRNOVA!!!! It's not as if you guys were perfect, you stole a shtload of coins after a 'hack', yet you are so fast to get all over verge dev team for something out of their control. Get serious, never again on suprnova. scam pool.

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For a long time I thought that it is almost impossible to launch a successful 51% attack for pretty strong networks like that of XVG. All those bugs in the code that led to this attack, were they amateurish or is that something we have to fear in many code bases?

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April 08, 2018, 10:36:14 PM
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“ Speculation :that partnership gonna be very probably with German Bank and they will release xvg debit cards. Imagine Verge chain being attacked in future, how you will pay with such card. Useless. And I'm not even talking about that when I was in team dev said xvg will NEVER partnership with bank, ever. Because it is anonymous, decentralized currency.“

I have been out of this topic as pool operator of NLPool.NL because as pool operator you have to be neutral with your opinion i think. That's something up to the miners, not us.

However, this argument you make here is not making any sense. My bank, and also many more here in this country get D-Dossed multiple times a year, and with that their nice I-Phone app breaks, android app breaks, website down, no pin transactions etc. Also, Skimming of bankcards, creditcards .... it is day to day practice here in the Netherlands. So i don't see how my bank is any better then a xvg-coin in times of difficulty. The argument that the banking system is more secure is also not valid... you and i know it isn't.... it's far worse. If you talk about millions of coins now extra in circulation, that still worry's me less then the amount of coins the ECB printed in a minute.

So i actually do believe that such partnership *can* be possible. I am more worried about the EU stance against crypto then over this thing.
Perhaps this hacker who did this job can solicit at the ECB... he sure as hell knows how to print money from thin air, so he can just continue his job there without anyone caring or bothering.  Grin Grin

So, i left our pool open for XVG during last days. VergeDEV was helpful and communicating and they still are.

So anyone looking for a pool to mine XVG ( Blake / Lyra2V2 or X17 ) , you are welcome @ NLPOOL ( www.nlpool.nl )

And for the other arguments of fellow pool's losing 12.8K of money .... Sorry but is all in the game. If you do XXX's TH/s of traffic and make lot's of money a day, just make a reservation for times it goes bad because we all have our good and bad days in life.



It's a pathological if it's true situation with your banks in NL. I dont see any of these things, in others EU banks, as I was, never ddosed, sometimes some conservative works, and that's it. It's really bad there I see.
And this attack just dusted a cover on verge being a shitcoin, true shitcoin, without even working properly without exploits blockchain, pump and dumpers dream
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April 08, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
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For a long time I thought that it is almost impossible to launch a successful 51% attack for pretty strong networks like that of XVG. All those bugs in the code that led to this attack, were they amateurish or is that something we have to fear in many code bases?

There was no 51% attack...
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“ Speculation :that partnership gonna be very probably with German Bank and they will release xvg debit cards. Imagine Verge chain being attacked in future, how you will pay with such card. Useless. And I'm not even talking about that when I was in team dev said xvg will NEVER partnership with bank, ever. Because it is anonymous, decentralized currency.“

I have been out of this topic as pool operator of NLPool.NL because as pool operator you have to be neutral with your opinion i think. That's something up to the miners, not us.

However, this argument you make here is not making any sense. My bank, and also many more here in this country get D-Dossed multiple times a year, and with that their nice I-Phone app breaks, android app breaks, website down, no pin transactions etc. Also, Skimming of bankcards, creditcards .... it is day to day practice here in the Netherlands. So i don't see how my bank is any better then a xvg-coin in times of difficulty. The argument that the banking system is more secure is also not valid... you and i know it isn't.... it's far worse. If you talk about millions of coins now extra in circulation, that still worry's me less then the amount of coins the ECB printed in a minute.

So i actually do believe that such partnership *can* be possible. I am more worried about the EU stance against crypto then over this thing.
Perhaps this hacker who did this job can solicit at the ECB... he sure as hell knows how to print money from thin air, so he can just continue his job there without anyone caring or bothering.  Grin Grin

So, i left our pool open for XVG during last days. VergeDEV was helpful and communicating and they still are.

So anyone looking for a pool to mine XVG ( Blake / Lyra2V2 or X17 ) , you are welcome @ NLPOOL ( www.nlpool.nl )

And for the other arguments of fellow pool's losing 12.8K of money .... Sorry but is all in the game. If you do XXX's TH/s of traffic and make lot's of money a day, just make a reservation for times it goes bad because we all have our good and bad days in life.



It's a pathological if it's true situation with your banks in NL. I dont see any of these things, in others EU banks, as I was, never ddosed, sometimes some conservative works, and that's it. It's really bad there I see.
And this attack just dusted a cover on verge being a shitcoin, true shitcoin, without even working properly without exploits blockchain, pump and dumpers dream

Do you think your bank will write you a letter each time someone tries to hack them (or someone does hack them)?

I am not a Verge Fan, but what happened to them can happen to any coin any time. Even Bitcoin or Litecoin or any other of the big coins. Definitely, there were made a lot of faults during this attack. But in the end, they fixed the problem. So maybe everyone should just calm down right now again...
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April 08, 2018, 11:18:20 PM
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“ Speculation :that partnership gonna be very probably with German Bank and they will release xvg debit cards. Imagine Verge chain being attacked in future, how you will pay with such card. Useless. And I'm not even talking about that when I was in team dev said xvg will NEVER partnership with bank, ever. Because it is anonymous, decentralized currency.“

I have been out of this topic as pool operator of NLPool.NL because as pool operator you have to be neutral with your opinion i think. That's something up to the miners, not us.

However, this argument you make here is not making any sense. My bank, and also many more here in this country get D-Dossed multiple times a year, and with that their nice I-Phone app breaks, android app breaks, website down, no pin transactions etc. Also, Skimming of bankcards, creditcards .... it is day to day practice here in the Netherlands. So i don't see how my bank is any better then a xvg-coin in times of difficulty. The argument that the banking system is more secure is also not valid... you and i know it isn't.... it's far worse. If you talk about millions of coins now extra in circulation, that still worry's me less then the amount of coins the ECB printed in a minute.

So i actually do believe that such partnership *can* be possible. I am more worried about the EU stance against crypto then over this thing.
Perhaps this hacker who did this job can solicit at the ECB... he sure as hell knows how to print money from thin air, so he can just continue his job there without anyone caring or bothering.  Grin Grin

So, i left our pool open for XVG during last days. VergeDEV was helpful and communicating and they still are.

So anyone looking for a pool to mine XVG ( Blake / Lyra2V2 or X17 ) , you are welcome @ NLPOOL ( www.nlpool.nl )

And for the other arguments of fellow pool's losing 12.8K of money .... Sorry but is all in the game. If you do XXX's TH/s of traffic and make lot's of money a day, just make a reservation for times it goes bad because we all have our good and bad days in life.



It's a pathological if it's true situation with your banks in NL. I dont see any of these things, in others EU banks, as I was, never ddosed, sometimes some conservative works, and that's it. It's really bad there I see.
And this attack just dusted a cover on verge being a shitcoin, true shitcoin, without even working properly without exploits blockchain, pump and dumpers dream

Do you think your bank will write you a letter each time someone tries to hack them (or someone does hack them)?

I am not a Verge Fan, but what happened to them can happen to any coin any time. Even Bitcoin or Litecoin or any other of the big coins. Definitely, there were made a lot of faults during this attack. But in the end, they fixed the problem. So maybe everyone should just calm down right now again...

No, everyone should leave and stop mining xvg so i can make more. Dumb sheep.
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April 09, 2018, 04:55:44 AM
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Okay guys, as the shit keep hitting the fan harder and harder here I need to take a few steps to actually end that drama for me:

Suprnova will not reopen any of it's XVG/Verge pools for mining whatsoever. You can mine it freely on any different pool if you like. Withdrawals are possible of course.

The background is that the "fix" promoted by the devs simply won't fix the problem. It will just make the timeframe smaller in which the blocks can be mined / spoofed and the attack
will still work, just be a bit slower.

Also the over 20 Million XVG which were instamined by the attacker won't be blacklisted, reverted, filtered or rolled-back in anyway according to the verge-dev, so in my opinion you all (the miners and investors) got betrayed about that 20 M coins .. For some it might be only a few coins, for some it might be a lot.. For some this might all be drama for them, I see you there of course..

Just to clarify a few last things:

1. The fix won't fix it. The problem is not alone the drifttime, but also the algo variance. You have to make sure that not X blocks get mined on one algo.
    Myriad and digibyte had the same issues - they fixed it.

    Here's a possible fix for the issues: https://github.com/digibyte/digibyte/pull/15

    Please DON'T just merge the code like you see it in that commit, you need to actually find the right places in your code and merge it. It's a slightly different codebase, so it won't work
    with just copy & paste, you actually have to understand and rewrite it to fit to your needs.
this will work for now, until our new block verification rewrite is added. im well aware that dgb and myr use a different codebase.

2. It's possible to blacklist certain addresses within the blockchain. So if you know on which addresses hacked funds reside, you can simply "blacklist" them directly in the codebase of the coin.
    For example you know that the attacker has used address "123abc123acb123abc" as the root for his hacked funds. You can now - at anytime - update your wallet code and just say
    "orphan all transactions with the root address "123abc123acb123abc". So even if the hacker moves the funds NOW or in one year, it won't happen as you've blacklisted the originating address.
    This was done previously also, not on myriad but on another coin - I can also find that commit for you.
we dont need that commit, we are just rolling forward. technically this person did not break any rules of the source code, and it would cause a huge headache for the exchanges since the coins have already moved (likely were sold)

3. I was getting blamed for "judging" too early and posting this info publicly on bitcointalk. I've mixed feelings about this.. Yes, I could have spoken silently to the devs at first and tell them "hey,
    something weird is going on on your blockchain" - however in the same time my miners were asking why the pool wasn't finding blocks and I already saw the first tweets about "skimming" and    
    stuff.. So.. What to do ? Keep the info about the hacker silent with the devs and wait 3-4 days for a (non-working) fix and get my reputation killed totally or just go for a public post about it
    and shutdown the pools ? I know, it's a difficult decision and my decision might have been wrong, but hey, I'm neither the attacker nor am I the guy responsible for the coin..  Also I was a bit
    astonished that I was actually the first to report the problem.. I was expecting devs watch their coin closely and come up with fixes upfront.. or at least know about what happend.

    In my opinion the optimal handling for this problem probably would have been something like this:

   1. Contact pools and exchanges to shutdown mining and trading
   1a. Tweet/Inform miners about the problem and tell them it's been worked on but takes it's time.
   2. Talk about possible problems and mitigation practices with devs/exchanges and pools.. Create a "conference room" for this for example and invite all necessary people there.
   3. Find a resolution, roll back the chain or at least filter the malicious coins (as someone as a (big) advantage here which he shouldn't, or?? So some others have a big disadvantage, or not ?)
   4. Go back online with the resolution and back to mining.
the 1st step would be to stop your pool, and notify miners that its stopped for now. 2nd would be to contact us. 3rd, let us get something ready to fix it instead of invite the entire forum population to join in the attack. after your initial post the rate of blocks increased 10x. you say you want to end the drama, but never in my life have i seen more drama from a single person. you even quoted me in your OP with something i never said lol

I like being kept in the loop ,i lost out big on BITINUM  71156746.76686477 btn only ended up with a $1200 power bill coin never made it to market and the dev never did anything with coin .so updating and chat room spam helps . And i am thinking that the miner devs also run mining pools i caught 2 pool now that are run by dev's ,i am good with all of them i just wish they would lift the %10 gpu max power they have my miner run at ....IE the if i let you run it i get 200 mh/s if i run it i get 1 th/s and it is provin  ............ It is a big flaw ,even a 5% increase in gpu mining will pump all gpu coins by %120 in speed .... like now i am in supanova and if i let pool run me i will be in 60 place with my ?? i am in 4th with no bad shares ...
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my wallet won't sync. Any advise how to get it working again?
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VERGE dev's are so good on writing code that if they had chosen to continue with the first fork (see patch a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81), the coin was now history.

this lines of code prove what I'm saying:

Code:
      if (GetBlockTime() < pindexPrev->GetBlockTime())
            return error("AcceptBlock() : block's timestamp is too early");

but wait, this is not over .. VERGE dev's are so arrogant that, they not even say thanks to @JonDoe01

see full discussion here:
https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81

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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......



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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......





Nice,They are ripping off ripple in bank related scam.  Grin
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“ Speculation :that partnership gonna be very probably with German Bank and they will release xvg debit cards. Imagine Verge chain being attacked in future, how you will pay with such card. Useless. And I'm not even talking about that when I was in team dev said xvg will NEVER partnership with bank, ever. Because it is anonymous, decentralized currency.“

I have been out of this topic as pool operator of NLPool.NL because as pool operator you have to be neutral with your opinion i think. That's something up to the miners, not us.

However, this argument you make here is not making any sense. My bank, and also many more here in this country get D-Dossed multiple times a year, and with that their nice I-Phone app breaks, android app breaks, website down, no pin transactions etc. Also, Skimming of bankcards, creditcards .... it is day to day practice here in the Netherlands. So i don't see how my bank is any better then a xvg-coin in times of difficulty. The argument that the banking system is more secure is also not valid... you and i know it isn't.... it's far worse. If you talk about millions of coins now extra in circulation, that still worry's me less then the amount of coins the ECB printed in a minute.

So i actually do believe that such partnership *can* be possible. I am more worried about the EU stance against crypto then over this thing.
Perhaps this hacker who did this job can solicit at the ECB... he sure as hell knows how to print money from thin air, so he can just continue his job there without anyone caring or bothering.  Grin Grin

So, i left our pool open for XVG during last days. VergeDEV was helpful and communicating and they still are.

So anyone looking for a pool to mine XVG ( Blake / Lyra2V2 or X17 ) , you are welcome @ NLPOOL ( www.nlpool.nl )

And for the other arguments of fellow pool's losing 12.8K of money .... Sorry but is all in the game. If you do XXX's TH/s of traffic and make lot's of money a day, just make a reservation for times it goes bad because we all have our good and bad days in life.



your only doing this because your own bags are to big Wink

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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......

I don't think a bank would work with 'anonymous' coins... no way.. my guess is porn code = porn hub  Grin
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April 09, 2018, 11:10:18 AM
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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......

I don't think a bank would work with 'anonymous' coins... no way.. my guess is porn code = porn hub  Grin

https://twitter.com/tokenpay/status/982945018750042112

#TokenPay CEO @derekcapo meeting in Munich earlier today for breakfast with key stakeholders of the German bank. A deal in principle has been agreed upon by all parties. We will provide full details at closing, but can say that $TPAY and $XVG debit cards are likely coming soon.


All i can say is this is going to be entertaining.....
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April 09, 2018, 12:39:18 PM
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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......

I don't think a bank would work with 'anonymous' coins... no way.. my guess is porn code = porn hub  Grin

Verge isn't anonym. That's a fact. So your argument doesn't make sense.
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April 09, 2018, 12:40:54 PM
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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......

I don't think a bank would work with 'anonymous' coins... no way.. my guess is porn code = porn hub  Grin

Verge isn't anonym. That's a fact. So your argument doesn't make sense.

Lol thanks for killing the USP  Grin
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April 09, 2018, 12:45:42 PM
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VERGE dev's are so good on writing code that if they had chosen to continue with the first fork (see patch a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81), the coin was now history.

this lines of code prove what I'm saying:

Code:
      if (GetBlockTime() < pindexPrev->GetBlockTime())
            return error("AcceptBlock() : block's timestamp is too early");

but wait, this is not over .. VERGE dev's are so arrogant that, they not even say thanks to @JonDoe01

see full discussion here:
https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81

make a mortgage buyyyyyy vergeeeeeeee
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April 09, 2018, 01:30:08 PM
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VERGE dev's are so good on writing code that if they had chosen to continue with the first fork (see patch a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81), the coin was now history.

this lines of code prove what I'm saying:

Code:
      if (GetBlockTime() < pindexPrev->GetBlockTime())
            return error("AcceptBlock() : block's timestamp is too early");

but wait, this is not over .. VERGE dev's are so arrogant that, they not even say thanks to @JonDoe01

see full discussion here:
https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81



Can you explain what this code does so it would make xvg history?

Looking for a signature campaign.
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April 09, 2018, 01:33:47 PM
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so they saying they will have a partnership with a german bank and they will have debit cards.

I can't wait for the next fuck up now......

I don't think a bank would work with 'anonymous' coins... no way.. my guess is porn code = porn hub  Grin

https://twitter.com/tokenpay/status/982945018750042112

#TokenPay CEO @derekcapo meeting in Munich earlier today for breakfast with key stakeholders of the German bank. A deal in principle has been agreed upon by all parties. We will provide full details at closing, but can say that $TPAY and $XVG debit cards are likely coming soon.


All i can say is this is going to be entertaining.....

Interesting. Actually, the left guy at the breakfast table indeed could be the chief of the Deutsche Bank Board (Paul Achleitner). The right guy on the breakfast table ... no idea.
Another curiousity is that today Deutsche Bank got a new CEO, a 48 year old german. This could speek indeed for a total change of course as its another generation guy than the
old guard.

However, there are 3 possible options in my opinion.

1.) Its all about hype, media, with an unsuccessfull real meeting or finalization of such deal which is exposted to the max for advertising and hype, with no deal at the end.

2.) Just a double scam from beginning with TokenPay and Verge.

3.) Real deal with Deutsche Bank. Actually it would make a lot of sense. In my opinion the first bank that gets involved in crypto will have a HUGE advantage over all other banks.
Strategically views, i wondered all the time why most banks block crypto. Of course many are afraid of, but a smart bank would use all the tech and evolution to get ahead of many
others. Not even talking about a popularity increase of the bank that will partner first with a Crypto Currency. Actually thinking more about it, it would be some indirect regulation
as well as, for example the german government, can regulate Deutsche Bank, which of course can than regulate a given Crypto Currency, no matter if Verge or another partner.

Just and in case 3.) is true we all will benefit from it. Seriously, it would be the mega deal for Verge, but for many other Cryptocurrencies as well and the whole of course. Non German
members should not undervalue Deutsche Bank, its the 15th biggest bank in the world, but with branches in nearly all countries.

Here some readings about the CEO Change and his views, which, at least how i read it, could be indeed a change of the Deutsche Bank banking as it was.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/finance/christian-sewing-former-deutsche-bank-intern-makes-good-runs-bank-908596  (in English)

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43688742
could this be a hint? "The supervisory board is convinced that he and his team will be able to successfully lead Deutsche Bank into a new era. We trust in the great ability of this bank and its many talents."

Now the big question is if the announced deal is exactly this deal. If yes, there is no place for jealousy as all crypto (the legit ones with a real project at least) will profit from it short and long term.
If its not the deal or even a scam than .... just another example for the crypto ballon many will say.....
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April 09, 2018, 01:54:29 PM
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Can you explain what this code does so it would make xvg history?

that line of code will reject the newer block if timestamp is lower then the previsions block

2045999   3aaba6976fe41a5c6050bb0fa50a8cc521c599b5594cb5e605a94d97d05dd5b6   2   334560.46670500   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:45:14 GMT
2045999   9b6fdc69a691911d1eef916b0f97e05f4b72a28a0b9548ef6061aef207c733aa   1   1566.33647500   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:45:14 GMT
2045998   a9622f0409bac201ffdc229833cfcc6ca109f03af24b86d74f2b76ccce1ff244   1   1560.00000000   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:58 GMT
2045997   430f332aa392127b13fef3cd0000ec93339b0a999e97f723ab3441c6812cbdbd   1   529.50501800   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:54 GMT
2045997   23e25aef73bf28c713d8183607027b8c3b9a836ae08fff870f5c8a48e8b10441   2   337560.56670500   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:54 GMT
2045997   62f1f3a639586aced66b4c050c9f3445fcaaaf3b03d69d1bde8fe755a9c11b90   2   607072.85142100   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:54 GMT
2045997   d05548b47a79083e9f1282fd345ef5748a6db131db25458b82c500a351dbf4cb   2   771850.44161100   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:54 GMT
2045997   6d8d924dc23989c07514f77cb723490f082c65b1b6b52c7e6720fe2455868b2d   1   1561.80000000   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:54 GMT
2045996   1d6f04674cdb34a9c33626332eb1190ad6d9673dd93c585c24067bb9a3c489fa   1   1560.00000000   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:40:14 GMT
2045995   06ddab834a93ee4792d0c7566abc35e9e0f36df63022e1c543c7f188cdc6abdb   2   1574.16701300   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:42:59 GMT
2045995   dccfecbc1b67407afd29e54666406fe00bc4029e28f0a1ec12d49ac8ebb5d6ed   1   216.06669900   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:42:59 GMT
2045995   dcf7e481c9d7a4160a9bb196572fdd8fc3ac708797a428476749cbbfcd0f86ad   2   3122.80000000   Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:42:59 GMT

for example blocks 2045996, 2045997 & 2045998 would have been rejected if this code was implemented
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