Network Attack on XVG / VERGE

[CHIEF56]

I'm a noob to Verge and came to this thread just to figure out what the fuck is going on. So far, I've read up on /r/cryptocurrency, /r/vergecurrency, and here, trying to figure this shit out. As someone who knows their shit when it comes to blockchain but is new to Verge itself, I haven't seen any evidence as to an attack actually happening. Can someone clear up the bullshit and lay out the evidence, and point to exactly why their evidence proves there's an attack going on or not? Thanks.

Yeah read the first page which was posted almost 2 months ago and listen to a guy called RUBBERDUCK59..   These sock puppets have no idea who they are supporting or what they are talking about. In short, there was an attack on verge two months ago and then about a week ago(which was way smaller than the first) and today the god of crypto "OCminer" decided to spread FUD again but probably didn't think it through. Verge has been patched and is running just fine and there is no attack.

Boom. 3 attacks that shouldn't have happened (and probably wouldn't have if you had a competent developer).
Your projects porn money should have been used to hire some great developers who could fix your problems, lol

Do you even read dude?
Antmine Pool Admin already Averted FUD in this thread if you see older posts. That so called third hack is'nt a hack. The so called "Hacker" you & your master are claiming is no other than Antmine pool address who are getting rewards for mining Verge just like evrry other pool. Come up with Actual and Real Claim & not some fake news.

Apparently you are the one that doesn't read.

Antmine wasn't "averting" so-called FUD nor was he addressing any. Rather, he was replying to a simple inquiry of mine as to why miner rewards are being credited (with many network confirmations) to an address when there is no block data available + transaction is non-existent on other block explorers.

https://verge-blockchain.info/tx/fb2d402e64099839d114ad25b252e4d2b22ba14f6ab19c82bf984127e840b1e4

Still no real explanation other than "something is wrong".

[boxalex]

You are ignorant, stubborn and will probably never be reasonable, no matter how wrong you are. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you guys. Just remember that we warned you, so don't come crying later on.

It doesn't make sense to argue with them, just leave them and they will go back to their original sunshine XVG reddit channel, lol.

I even understand them to be honest, i mean how would you feel?

- 75M Crowdfund gone for .... nothing, no exclusivity, no gain, no nothing, just gone
- 1 attack, 2 attack, mostly 3rd attack, (placeholder for further attacks)
- copy/pasted code from a direct competitor, lol, that one makes me even laugh  
- you believe it will rocket to moon (1USD -100USD) and a sudden you are back on earth at the roots ....
- the XVG hardliners didn't sell their bags on pornhub pike (believing in previous point) like every smart trader and .... regret it now.

Come on. It's understandable that it can be only FUD that causes this all. Impossible Saint Verge did something wrong......
Let's have some understanding for that.....

[kryptoklob]

You are ignorant, stubborn and will probably never be reasonable, no matter how wrong you are. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you guys. Just remember that we warned you, so don't come crying later on.

It doesn't make sense to argue with them, just leave them and they will go back to their original sunshine XVG reddit channel, lol.

I even understand them to be honest, i mean how would you feel?

- 75M Crowdfund gone for .... nothing, no exclusivity, no gain, no nothing, just gone
- 1 attack, 2 attack, mostly 3rd attack, (placeholder for further attacks)
- copy/pasted code from a direct competitor, lol, that one makes me even laugh  
- you believe it will rocket to moon (1USD -100USD) and a sudden you are back on earth at the roots ....
- the XVG hardliners didn't sell their bags (believing in previous point) like every smart trader and .... regret it now.

Come on. It's understandable that it can be only FUD that causes this all. Impossible Saint Verge did something wrong......
Let's have some understanding for that.....

You realize I own no XVG, right? I came to this thread to find answers as to "did an attack actually happen today" and you guys have given me ZERO evidence of that. I don't care about the previous attacks. I'm not going to invest in XVG anyways. The relationship that you have with finding out the truth, however, really is astounding...

[forestpump]

I'm a noob to Verge and came to this thread just to figure out what the fuck is going on. So far, I've read up on /r/cryptocurrency, /r/vergecurrency, and here, trying to figure this shit out. As someone who knows their shit when it comes to blockchain but is new to Verge itself, I haven't seen any evidence as to an attack actually happening. Can someone clear up the bullshit and lay out the evidence, and point to exactly why their evidence proves there's an attack going on or not? Thanks.

Yeah read the first page which was posted almost 2 months ago and listen to a guy called RUBBERDUCK59..   These sock puppets have no idea who they are supporting or what they are talking about. In short, there was an attack on verge two months ago and then about a week ago(which was way smaller than the first) and today the god of crypto "OCminer" decided to spread FUD again but probably didn't think it through. Verge has been patched and is running just fine and there is no attack.

Boom. 3 attacks that shouldn't have happened (and probably wouldn't have if you had a competent developer).
Your projects porn money should have been used to hire some great developers who could fix your problems, lol

go back to school and learn to read rubberdickie

[boxalex]

You realize I own no XVG, right? I came to this thread to find answers as to "did an attack actually happen today" and you guys have given me ZERO evidence of that. I don't care about the previous attacks. I'm not going to invest in XVG anyways. The relationship that you have with finding out the truth, however, really is astounding...

Maybe we have our stance because we readed and followed from page 1 until now and not just looked up 2 pages? Could make sense, not?

IF you think that finding the truth is astounding, maybe you check the Verge channels, just as an example on the attack some days ago Verge said it was a Ddos attack on miningpools, missleading whole community while knowing better.... Just normally that everybody here has his guard off when something strange like the 300 diff last night happens after x attacks and whatever not.....

[Dogedarkdev]

You are ignorant, stubborn and will probably never be reasonable, no matter how wrong you are. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you guys. Just remember that we warned you, so don't come crying later on.

It doesn't make sense to argue with them, just leave them and they will go back to their original sunshine XVG reddit channel, lol.

I even understand them to be honest, i mean how would you feel?

- 75M Crowdfund gone for .... nothing, no exclusivity, no gain, no nothing, just gone
- 1 attack, 2 attack, mostly 3rd attack, (placeholder for further attacks)
- copy/pasted code from a direct competitor, lol, that one makes me even laugh  
- you believe it will rocket to moon (1USD -100USD) and a sudden you are back on earth at the roots ....
- the XVG hardliners didn't sell their bags on pornhub pike (believing in previous point) like every smart trader and .... regret it now.

Come on. It's understandable that it can be only FUD that causes this all. Impossible Saint Verge did something wrong......
Let's have some understanding for that.....

1. we do have exclusivity. no other coin is being integrated as payment into mindgeek.

2. there is no third attack, as far as we can tell.

3. we dont need to copy paste code from a competitor. if you are referring to shield coin, they copied our entire codebase to create their coin, they just forgot to add the privacy features.

[Muska17]

Hey guys,

I'm new here. I'm not here to spread FUD or defend anything or anyone.

Look at this picture below, is this normal ?

https://imgur.com/a/MyJiVuo

[c0mrade4chan]

 
The administrator of the mining pool OCminer reported a third attack on the Verge network. One of the users of reddit noted that the developers should take advice from PornHub, how best to plug the holes in the blockroom.
More information about the Verge crypto currency, under the link -
https://www.rbc.ru/crypto/news/5b0d18c19a7947257de5a52b

[alani123]

There's an army of shills with a vested interest in Verge. Could be alts of the developers, bag holders or even 'traders' that bought at the top. No wonder people are defending Verge when it's in the interest to let off their bags to others.

The bottom line is that anyone who tried to sideline from the facts proving that Verge is an utter disaster of a project is trying to mislead people. It should be spelled out loud and clear that

VERGE is a scam! It should be dumped by everyone as it truly holds no value or integrity in its technology. The development team has managed to pump it's price and sell the "news" for it several times but this time they're trully caught on their fraud. Any coin that's susceptible to 51% attacks or even hacks such as verge was isn't worth much.

[Muska17]

To me this is some nonsense spreading clickbaiters that are happy to see a crypto failing.

Does someone has a factual/scientific explanation to this picture ?

https://imgur.com/a/MyJiVuo

[forestpump]

There's an army of shills with a vested interest in Verge. Could be alts of the developers, bag holders or even 'traders' that bought at the top. No wonder people are defending Verge when it's in the interest to let off their bags to others.

The bottom line is that anyone who tried to sideline from the facts proving that Verge is an utter disaster of a project is trying to mislead people. It should be spelled out loud and clear that

VERGE is a scam! It should be dumped by everyone as it truly holds no value or integrity in its technology. The development team has managed to pump it's price and sell the "news" for it several times but this time they're trully caught on their fraud. Any coin that's susceptible to 51% attacks or even hacks such as verge was isn't worth much.

so have you already set your buy order at 450 sats? this should definitely pull price to 450. Thanks bruh! you always get the price down and help others get cheap verge.

[Dogedarkdev]

To me this is some nonsense spreading clickbaiters that are happy to see a crypto failing.

Does someone has a factual/scientific explanation to this picture ?

difficulty goes up and down. could have been an attempted attack, but it was not successful. so far, no malicious blocks have occurred in the last 24 hours.

we are rebasing our entire code however.

[boxalex]

1. we do have exclusivity. no other coin is being integrated as payment into mindgeek.

For how long? Proof? If it would like that than i wonder why mindgeek ceo considers adding other altcoins? I as well wonder how Vicetoken than is making plans with Playboy/Penthouse if it's that exclusively??

2. there is no third attack, as far as we can tell.

Deja vu? I remember reading this/similar as first statements on attack 1 and 2 as well. Not even mention the duration of the attacks that totally differs from your official statements and true, what's left for the whole amount.

3. we dont need to copy paste code from a competitor. if you are referring to shield coin, they copied our entire codebase to create their coin, they just forgot to add the privacy features.

Sounds good, but that doesn't make any sense at all. IF the shield code is the original XVG code than all these attacks shouldn't have happened at all IF XVG had it allready.
The only other possible explaination would have been that: It was the XVG code at the very beginning, you messed it totally up several times and now use again the original code. Only in this instance your argument makes sense as it excludes all other automaticlly when you claim the last "shield code fix" is original XVG's. Not sure which of both scenarios is worse but it does not left space for any other i can think about.....

[Patelkaran.8798]

There's an army of shills with a vested interest in Verge. Could be alts of the developers, bag holders or even 'traders' that bought at the top. No wonder people are defending Verge when it's in the interest to let off their bags to others.

The bottom line is that anyone who tried to sideline from the facts proving that Verge is an utter disaster of a project is trying to mislead people. It should be spelled out loud and clear that

VERGE is a scam! It should be dumped by everyone as it truly holds no value or integrity in its technology. The development team has managed to pump it's price and sell the "news" for it several times but this time they're trully caught on their fraud. Any coin that's susceptible to 51% attacks or even hacks such as verge was isn't worth much.

Btw BTC, LTC, Eth has suffered attacks in early days, you shouldnt stay invested acc to you.
Definitely got "BOUNTY" for FUDDing. I bet you can sell your honesty for even 0.1 BTC.

[boxalex]

To me this is some nonsense spreading clickbaiters that are happy to see a crypto failing.

Does someone has a factual/scientific explanation to this picture ?

difficulty goes up and down. could have been an attempted attack, but it was not successful. so far, no malicious blocks have occurred in the last 24 hours.

we are rebasing our entire code however.

how it comes that at exact this time and period the miningpools had (mostly) only orphaned blocks if it was only an attempt?

[TheNewAnon135246]

You are ignorant, stubborn and will probably never be reasonable, no matter how wrong you are. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you guys. Just remember that we warned you, so don't come crying later on.

It doesn't make sense to argue with them, just leave them and they will go back to their original sunshine XVG reddit channel, lol.

I even understand them to be honest, i mean how would you feel?

- 75M Crowdfund gone for .... nothing, no exclusivity, no gain, no nothing, just gone
- 1 attack, 2 attack, mostly 3rd attack, (placeholder for further attacks)
- copy/pasted code from a direct competitor, lol, that one makes me even laugh  
- you believe it will rocket to moon (1USD -100USD) and a sudden you are back on earth at the roots ....
- the XVG hardliners didn't sell their bags on pornhub pike (believing in previous point) like every smart trader and .... regret it now.

Come on. It's understandable that it can be only FUD that causes this all. Impossible Saint Verge did something wrong......
Let's have some understanding for that.....

1. we do have exclusivity. no other coin is being integrated as payment into mindgeek.

2. there is no third attack, as far as we can tell.

3. we dont need to copy paste code from a competitor. if you are referring to shield coin, they copied our entire codebase to create their coin, they just forgot to add the privacy features.

Maybe Shield forked from Verge but that does not give you the right to copy their code and claim that they copied you. These commit are identical:

Shield commit from a month ago: https://git.shieldx.sh/SHIELD-team/Core-Projects/SHIELD/commit/c9da6eb64f670a6e0336ceb10332b2bd94498eba
Verge commit from a few days ago: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/f8ca082646f9d98f5856e341097807ba06268464

Same thing with your commit during the previous attack: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81
It is an exact copy of a Peercoin commit from 2015: https://talk.peercoin.net/t/timedrift-exploit-on-pos-coins-to-increase-minting-probability/3338/17

Same thing with Wraith, copied from Denarius.
Denarius commit (June 2017): https://github.com/carsenk/denarius/blob/a1ae9639e640e6ee0ffca7b8f7a2c73446849132/src/stealth.cpp
Wraith commit (December 2017): https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/blob/master/src/stealth.cpp

There is nothing wrong with forking code from other coins but give them credit for it and don't claim that they stole it from you.

[Dogedarkdev]

You are ignorant, stubborn and will probably never be reasonable, no matter how wrong you are. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you guys. Just remember that we warned you, so don't come crying later on.

It doesn't make sense to argue with them, just leave them and they will go back to their original sunshine XVG reddit channel, lol.

I even understand them to be honest, i mean how would you feel?

- 75M Crowdfund gone for .... nothing, no exclusivity, no gain, no nothing, just gone
- 1 attack, 2 attack, mostly 3rd attack, (placeholder for further attacks)
- copy/pasted code from a direct competitor, lol, that one makes me even laugh  
- you believe it will rocket to moon (1USD -100USD) and a sudden you are back on earth at the roots ....
- the XVG hardliners didn't sell their bags on pornhub pike (believing in previous point) like every smart trader and .... regret it now.

Come on. It's understandable that it can be only FUD that causes this all. Impossible Saint Verge did something wrong......
Let's have some understanding for that.....

1. we do have exclusivity. no other coin is being integrated as payment into mindgeek.

2. there is no third attack, as far as we can tell.

3. we dont need to copy paste code from a competitor. if you are referring to shield coin, they copied our entire codebase to create their coin, they just forgot to add the privacy features.

Maybe Shield forked from Verge but that does not give you the right to copy their code and claim that they copied you. These commit are identical:

Shield commit from a month ago: https://git.shieldx.sh/SHIELD-team/Core-Projects/SHIELD/commit/c9da6eb64f670a6e0336ceb10332b2bd94498eba
Verge commit from a few days ago: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/f8ca082646f9d98f5856e341097807ba06268464

Same thing with your commit during the previous attack: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81
It is an exact copy of a Peercoin commit from 2015: https://talk.peercoin.net/t/timedrift-exploit-on-pos-coins-to-increase-minting-probability/3338/17

Same thing with Wraith, copied from Denarius.
Denarius commit (June 2017): https://github.com/carsenk/denarius/blob/a1ae9639e640e6ee0ffca7b8f7a2c73446849132/src/stealth.cpp
Wraith commit (December 2017): https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/blob/master/src/stealth.cpp

There is nothing wrong with forking code from other coins but give them credit for it and don't claim that they stole it from you.

jesus, for all  your bitcointalk activity, you'd think you would understand what you are posting.

https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/blob/master/src/stealth.cpp#L1

stealth was created by sdc. denarius actually removed their copyright, which is pretty fucked up. we left the shadowcoin copyright in it.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

[Dogedarkdev]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.