lophie (OP)
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November 18, 2013, 09:24:01 AM Last edit: January 04, 2014, 11:44:11 PM by lophie |
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The 94% Con by Jon Montroll
Latest News:: Ukyo Ran To Cyprus! THE BITCOINS ARE NO LONGER THERE, OUR BITCOINS ARE LOST! Ukyo LEFT TO CYPRUS BUT HIS FAMILY ARE STILL IN TEXAS. GET YOUR PITCHFORKS AND GO TO TEXAS. WE WILL POST HIS HOME ADDRESS PUBLICLY HERE TOMORROW! PLUS HIS PERSONAL CELLPHONE NUMBERWhat happened:: Ukyo is the operator of WeExchange.co. Recently trying to withdraw anything from the exchange would result into an error message "Could not connect to 2nd stage server." and thus getting the bitcoins stuck in WeExchange. throughout the past several weeks Ukyo was active and communicative regarding this issue and indeed manually he processed many stuck withdrawal requests. In the very recent couple of days the error occurrences jumped from unlikely, likely, most likely and currently it is definitely! Currently every single withdrawal from WeExchange results into a "Could not connect to 2nd stage server." error. This SCAM accusation thread is actually the last straw before a full blown scam accusation and finger pointing, it tries to explain the impatience with Ukyo and why, currently, it is more likely that Ukyo simply does not have the funds at all! In the worst case scenario we hope to get Ukyo a Scammer tag simply because he is not taking the means of tagging himself "I am not a scammer!". His arguements along with ours are to be listed and discussed below after the general information of the SCAM template. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35121Reference Link: (Current list of locked funds) Amount Scammed (Currently): Simply millions Payment Method: BTC deposit Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/address/126xgFue6fgkmCqNCY6ypaqzzk78NPPwEZ, But actually unless Ukyo admit owning these addressess' private keys, this is not a sufficient proof. The Argument: After pressing Ukyo to give an explanation regarding the error he claims that the server hosting bitcoind daemon fails to comply with the RPC command that is made by WeExchange server to withdraw some bitcoins to a users' given btc address and amount. He claims to be seeking help around to solve this problem. He claims that the trigger of this problem is the accumulation of a large number of private keys held by that bitcoind daemon. In the recent past of a few weeks this problem occurs (occasionally) and now it always occurs for every single withdrawal request. He claims that he tried to add more resources and changing the host systems with no different results I personally proposed the following: I proposed Ukyo change the software backend to libbitcoin which can handle larger amounts of private keys held due to its design. I also proposed he uses Electrum 1.9 connecting to nodes using Tor (with writing some RPC wrappings). More importantly I urged Ukyo to STOP the withdrawal functionality due to the instability of the automation system, and currently the system is completely not working. Facts are facts and they state that Ukyo closed Bitfunder because there are not enough funds to pursue legalizing state of bitfunder, Ukyo delayed the dividents of G.ASICMINER-PT for a whole week claiming he needed Friedcat to tell him the amount for the divs per share, a very easy argument to defeat which is knowing that amount just a few hours after the dividents is very easy from TAT, Jutarul, The online list and forum posts. Seeking consistency from several users from the public addresses and ASICMINER div transaction is very very easy. Which leads to the very simple conclusion that Ukyo basically did not have the funds and needed longer time to accumulate them. This makes it very easy to reach the conclusion that the error on WeExchange happens simply because the wallet on the bitcoind daemon server DOES NOT have enough funds to create such transactions, recently it sometimes had it and sometimes did not, But now it is simply an empty wallet. In the next sections we have "demands" which we believe it will ease our minds regarding this (very-obvious-to-us) conclusion and assuring or Ukyo's seriousness and truthfulness regarding his claims and intentions to fix the problem. In the next couple of days -if not responded to by Ukyo- We are willing to post a dead line before seeking a scammer tag on his username and pursuing legal actions on his person. We believe it is only fair in case of his utmost ignorance to our dilemmas and suspicions. PM/Chat Logs: Additional Notes: Demands: - ETA:
Ukyo so far avoid posting any ETA for either solving the problem or processing a certain withdrawal request. We are asking for a solid well defined ETA for each transaction to be processed.
- Proof of funds:
The word going around is that Ukyo has gone fractional and that he does not have the funds to process all pending withdrawal requests. A signed message from an address he owns (msg:WeExchange transaction ID) with enough funds will shatter this rumour. We reached a place where asking for this is necessary.
- Disabling withdraw feature off WeExchange (or at least posting a warning):
Wither Ukyo like it or not he DOES NOT have a working automatic system for withdrawals. He MUST either disable withdraw feature off WeExchange or at least post a warning.
Donation address to Lophie's broken fingers copying, pasting and calculating all this: 1LophieEaKWKtqGWoTDp5TDhB7rGjneHep
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Pompobit
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November 19, 2013, 12:44:39 AM |
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I add my requests too, I trusted Ukyo but I'm loosing my faith day by day he keeps to remain vague about this issue. Avoid blocking withdrawals from weexchange seems odd, too.
Username WeExchange ID Amount Time Stamp Pompolus uIIxCevq18AuQe1i2jTftijKq6Fj03cf 5.49994209BTC 2013-11-02 Pompolus GlWNK4426syVhELe97ew7K62gOmqtfD3 5.00000000BTC 2013-11-02
stucked since november 2nd, 17 days and counting
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lophie (OP)
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November 19, 2013, 03:09:52 AM |
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If you may share the above info (You can leave WeExchange username out), I will add it to the list.
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szmarco
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November 19, 2013, 03:34:07 AM |
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Username WeExchange ID Amount Time Stamp marcox tWu1D0EccouQUAaphm1ZZzFTSdP8DWVs 0.89445361 2013-11-06 05:27:03 marcox H8IXDh2Hs8qIMAXf8kM855ZQoGFRhZJA 2.60710030 2013-11-07 18:29:44 marcox lzku8uFDzD5DcvooGGRnlB2celktFkPu 2.47134580 2013-11-10 19:25:03
Ukyo, PLZ. I still trust you.
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jimmydorry
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November 19, 2013, 05:49:00 AM |
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Username | WeExchange ID | Amount | Time Stamp | jimmydorry | XXw7oIRTNImdQ3T2JeO4BNvBjEUFTFAg | 2.28360144 BTC | 2013-11-13 18:18:59 |
I assume the WeExchange ID is the WeExchange transaction ID.
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ninjaboon
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November 19, 2013, 06:15:14 AM |
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My BTC is still stuck in WeExchange. Will post some details later.
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falko0815
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November 19, 2013, 06:38:45 AM |
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Username WeExchange ID Amount Time Stamp
Falko0815 DkcQSadTbyuqcuOD2R4a2UqB0zvnGPZW 13.3 2013-10-28 12:36:12
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kleinessteak
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November 19, 2013, 07:00:22 AM |
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Username WeExchange ID Amount Time Stamp - rXenKgF6L2NgRps9Ii5MoqQLb10XocQi 3.00000000 BTC 2013-11-14 01:30:05 - ln8HUFVb4Uoc8RE4NYBtWXyYqj0bH3II 5.00000000 BTC 2013-11-14 01:31:15 - c4odba5unVx0OnFXQF0HktHnoP4uuakN 1.62805841 BTC 2013-11-14 01:31:46
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Sanqianli
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November 19, 2013, 07:12:07 AM |
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i have take a withdraw 2 weeks ago ,but is not get through 2013-11-05 05:57:33 BTC 5.00000000 5.00000000 Withdraw Processing 2013-11-05 05:58:38 BTC 1.86780000 1.86780000 Withdraw Processing 2013-11-16 03:02:06 BTC 0.10000000 0.10000000 Withdraw Processing
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thecoinjournal
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November 19, 2013, 07:14:09 AM |
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Anyone who made a successful withdraw is welcome to post here too.
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discobean
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November 19, 2013, 07:29:44 AM |
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These are mine so far:
2013-11-17 18:54:08 Withdraw 1.32756000 BTC Processing 2013-11-07 20:43:38 Withdraw 1.29067248 BTC Processing
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jinyoubei
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November 19, 2013, 08:06:03 AM |
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Date 2013-11-07 18:10:50 Transaction ID pr5svxyA2suAqcjWs3VLfxlev1642Ene Type Withdraw Debit 15.70391641 BTC Credit Fee 0.00000000 BTC BTC Transaction Status Processing
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lophie (OP)
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November 19, 2013, 08:22:17 AM |
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These are mine so far:
2013-11-17 18:54:08 Withdraw 1.32756000 BTC Processing 2013-11-07 20:43:38 Withdraw 1.29067248 BTC Processing
Please either add a username or a transaction ID these are just amounts and there is no way for Ukyo to even find them unless there is the coincidence that there is no other withdrawals with the same exact amounts.
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pascal257
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November 19, 2013, 08:22:34 AM Last edit: November 19, 2013, 09:05:20 AM by pascal257 |
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Date 2013-11-06 17:16:14 Transaction ID jh9INdt8MDRpGIhK2eZ7CdGY57FktqbX Type Withdraw Debit 6.49756834 BTC Credit Fee 0.00000000 BTC BTC Transaction Status Processing Just transferred my last coins out of WeEx/BitFunder: Date 2013-11-19 03:00:54 Transaction ID WLeGOBwVuPYtPYybJnEUN6KqAMfLy85X Type Withdraw Debit 5.62559241 BTC Credit Fee 0.00000000 BTC BTC Transaction Status Processing Total: 12.12316075
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hammurabi
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November 19, 2013, 08:23:41 AM |
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2013-11-17 Withdraw 9.08146630 BTC Processing
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BTC: 1Hpk4rWpP3gACJhXHn8VkeNp4usdQmfuVY LTC: LM5p7X9dTsWj14G2VQeJKuntVUc6GsPnDp
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stereotype
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November 19, 2013, 08:28:57 AM |
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2013-11-05 09:17:50 Withdraw 2.00000000 BTC Processing ZTyznvh2MuxILpWoI7ht8Bsujlnl0s4v 2013-11-16 12:23:21 Withdraw 2.00007727 BTC Processing QifY3b9YIJDZHiBl2YDIJLHOUQvcVWxq
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zxyzxy
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November 19, 2013, 08:47:15 AM |
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Ukyo, you probably dont realize this and wont ever do, because you are financially secured somewhere in america (?) and thanks to your accomplishments in bitcoin community, but you are effectively ruining people's lives here, man.. I am making ~6000 USD per year, i already lost close to 30 coins thanks to securities like BASIC-MINING and some other (i now, i am only to blame myself..), so people ran me over in the past. That amount would be enough to buy me a house where i live.. a nice one that is.. You are holding my last few coins i have hostage and that is everything i have and ever will with the prices like this.. i kinda counted at least on that to change my life significantly in the upcomming years. I simply cannot afford to buy any new bitcoins when one coin is worth 560 EUR, that is three months worth of rent and food for me. i dont have that kind of money.. if i had, i would buy at least one.. What I want from you is a simple promise that I will see my bitcoins in the upcomming weeks. some of those are belonging to a family member of me and he is very nervous and wants me to do something with it, which is not in my power, obviously. Please, I beg you.. process my bitcoins and bitcoins of these other people that are impatiently waiting, dont ruin us. I am sure those other people here would like to use those coins to buy something or sell, when the market is blooming like this. Thank you very much. My pending withdrawal is: Date 2013-11-13 10:00:07 Transaction ID UNwr0BdIh3Tn5f4H7DlGIfhBHsmurjmj Type Withdraw Debit 4.85676424 BTC Credit Fee 0.00000000 BTC BTC Transaction Status Processing i am sending messages here, because i am sure your inbox is full and i dont want my message to be lost there. i dont want to spam, please inform me if i am doing something wrong.
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discobean
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November 19, 2013, 08:49:27 AM |
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Ok, mine so far 2nd try:
2013-11-17 18:54:08 Withdraw 1.32756000 BTC Processing EVTTxYuOio18a7lBeyZ4O9NEAXbOpKcq 2013-11-07 20:43:38 Withdraw 1.29067248 BTC Processing LqXRstA2sLr7PBoQM7aBu6Ax0DFqwTEz
I vaguely remember weexchange being owned by Graet? The whole reason why I went with BF is because I believed BF and Weex were separate entities, so BF had no access to any of the coins.
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stereotype
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November 19, 2013, 09:03:23 AM |
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lophie
I propose we do not allow Ukyo to set any ETA. Enough time has passed, where his reputation becomes less and less valuable to him, where his mind-set is probably close to a 'fuck-you-all' point in time, i would have thought. I personally couldn't bare to read any more pathetic and insulting excuses. Can we just say 3 days from now, if 25% of people on this list have not been re-paid, we escalate this?
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