The 94% Con by Jon Montroll

[Bogart]

I had never heard of Ukyo until I ended up with some coin stuck in weexchange and did some research.

Graet on the other hand, I had thought was a well-respected member here, operator of the ozco.in pool, and one of the top go-to guys for escrow service.  I'm somewhat taken aback to learn of his involvement in what looks like a real dodgy situation.

[MiWBitCoin]

I foolishly sold some altcoin on another exchange to transfer to WeEx and push account above the min withdrawal threshold.
Deposit in went OK. Account was credited.

Went to transfer it out to another address and i got the 2nd stage server error.

Date    2013-11-23 00:48:52
Transaction ID    QG8XE1LgtwbvNWVLao2JcZuLnmoPTOad
Type    Withdraw
Debit    0.10191140 BTC
Credit    
Fee    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction    
Status    Processing

Value was deducted from the WeEx balance.

[oys]

5.0322130 BTC request from 2013-11-15 08:47:08
5.BTC request from 2013-11-08 18:27:05


What's making me kick myself is that I deposited 10 BTC on 2013-11-01, before I heard about this mess.

Submited support tickets a couple of days later. I have tried to get in touch with UKYO/we-exchange to offer help with writing a script to extract private keys from the "broken" bitcoind wallet, collect these in one big account, and automate the payout process. Have not heard back, but offer still stands.

[Bananery]

Wow... never have seen such a bad Trustrating... but i dont understand this post. Graet and ukyo didnt respond about what? They should pay something to TH or the other way around?

TF claims they have defaulted loans on CL, which does not help refunding, as far as I understand.

Graet didn't loan anything on CL, but TF had Graet.loan bonds in his hedge fund. Graet hasn't redeemed those bonds, but says he intends to redeem about half of all his bonds by mid 2014.

So its TH that is in debt? I have read it this way too. If its the case its not a good news anyway because it means ukyo might have lost money there... private money.

I don't know who TH is, but I mean TradeFortress = TF, the guy behind inputs.io, coinlenders and btcinvest. BTCinvest had some Graet.loan bonds, that TF wants to redeem them to return the funds to the holders of BTCinvest.

[Komodorpudel]

Date   2013-11-10 08:31:02

Transaction ID    acN01QT6PnsPoxQ3oK1GLn5fTGyzFhJB
Type                    Withdraw
Debit                    0.36741983 BTC
Credit   
Fee                    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction   
Status            Processing


Still waiting...

[hobbymd]

Date   2013-11-14 12:42:26

Transaction ID    4b7m4EbYmEuSxekjXRMNEqkhCAUpvFah
Type                    Withdraw
Debit                    0.38731050 BTC
Credit   
Fee                    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction   
Status            Processing



not much comparing to some other people. What a messed situation!!!

[BigCstyle]

So, any word or information for the day?

[ninjaboon]

I withdrew my BTC on 18 NOV 2013.
Still in processing mode, this is ridiculous.

Date    2013-11-17 16:12:00
Transaction ID    Dnb5QQvKN1tWbR7kULACDrdK89heQn6K
Type    Withdraw
Debit    2.06771160 BTC
Credit    
Fee    0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction    
Status    Processing

yes, my patience is wearing thin.

no news yet. 7 days and counting.
I'm gonna leave a negative rating for Ukyo.

[kuriboh]

I'm Waiting for this since november 5th

Date   2013-11-05 15:19:31
Transaction ID   SebfgeRu7WiimHvcXSjY5cVwBEH4gBQA
Type   Withdraw
Debit   0.14373500 BTC
Credit   
Fee   0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction   
Status   Processing

[krimsonkla]

Interesting... Not sure what it means...
According to bitfunder:
Ukyo.Loan has not paid the daily dividends since November 16th
Graet.Loan has paid the dividends and is current to date.

Based on the descriptions of these loans, does that mean Ukyo has declared bankruptcy or were all loan shares redeemed? What happened to these shares and dividends?

Description:
I have been presented with an interesting opportunity that I would prefer to not sell off other investments for.
This loan is for private investment purposes.
This loan is not tied to the success or failure of any business, investments, or opportunities.
This loan should not be defaulted on unless personal bankruptcy is officially declared.
Consider it a personal loan.

[moribana]

Interesting... Not sure what it means...
According to bitfunder:
Ukyo.Loan has not paid the daily dividends since November 16th
Graet.Loan has paid the dividends and is current to date.

Based on the descriptions of these loans, does that mean Ukyo has declared bankruptcy or were all loan shares redeemed? What happened to these shares and dividends?

Description:
I have been presented with an interesting opportunity that I would prefer to not sell off other investments for.
This loan is for private investment purposes.
This loan is not tied to the success or failure of any business, investments, or opportunities.
This loan should not be defaulted on unless personal bankruptcy is officially declared.
Consider it a personal loan.

Technically you are right. However, a couple of times it already happened in the past that Ukyo did not pay interest for some days and afterwards made up for it. It is also not clear how things work after the closure of Bitfunder.

[azaniet]

2013-11-06 03:51:13    Withdraw    2.36699564 BTC       Processing
2013-11-13 11:36:43    Withdraw    0.64910200 BTC       Processing

[sparky999]

I also haven't received my dividends for the asicminer -pt that Ukyo runs on Bf

[dnaleor]

I am getting fucking tired of this situation
I already wrote my coins off as a loss 

fukyou

[SOSLOVE868]

I am getting fucking tired of this situation
I already wrote my coins off as a loss 

fukyou

Fuck ,I can't accept that He ties up around 200 BTC of mine!!!!!!I can't take this !!!!!!

[glendall]

2 questions for anyone

1) Is it feasible that Ukyo could be working on this problem for more than 40 days without success? If you know bitcoind well then pipe up.

2) Has anyone at all successfully made a withdraw in the last 2 weeks?

...when should we move past the denial stage is what I'm really wondering. If it is a technical problem Ukyo should at least get some trusted 3rd party verification of this.  

[dnaleor]

he just did not yet showed signed wallets with the funds. That is easlily done and worries me.

If fukyou does that in the next days, I will be patient. But now, I am just angry

I only lost "just 0.42 BTC", but that was my profit gained with my first baby steps on bitfunder...
And I am a student, my BTC stash is not that big... A loss of 0.42 BTC is a lot for me.


edit: willing to sell my "withdrawal" with a loss. Anybody interested? No bids below 0.30 BTC please. You are bidding on 0.42415565 BTC at weex.
I will send the funds as soon as I received the funds (if I ever receive the funds)
The funds will be deposited on 1NK4AXFzzvUd8EM6hWnmH17xpYzZUfmE1R.
I am verified.

Check my trust. Can not offer escrow, because we never now if and when the funds are released. But you can check the deposit address for 0.42415565 BTC.

Send me bids by PM to keep this topic clean. I will only respond when I am satisfied with the bid.

Code:

1NK4AXFzzvUd8EM6hWnmH17xpYzZUfmE1R

Code:

I, dnaleor, am the owner of this address used at Weexchange. If ukyo keeps his promise, 0.42415565BTC will be deposited.

Code:

IGH5QRHCoAS7o6Xz91xikTfOivEzcGjXaX0961DBmnOCTqxNE/m0FsKQoHLXYVgH/YhRHsFyB4uQsQW+EPWD0So=

[SOSLOVE868]

he just did not yet showed signed wallets with the funds. That is easlily done and worries me.

If fukyou does that in the next days, I will be patient. But now, I am just angry

I only lost "just 0.42 BTC", but that was my profit gained with my first baby steps on bitfunder...
And I am a student, my BTC stash is not that big... A loss of 0.42 BTC is a lot for me.

I sincerely hope everything he said is true , he still hold our coins, and he will gives it back, but the more time pass ,the less I believe what he said.

and full of suspicious are tormenting me, may be I just need him to tell me a trues about what did he do with our coins , and what is his real plan ,run or take up responsibility?

[lophie]

I will curse Ukyo till the day I die, I lost 2 big bubbles bursting and lost alot or arbitrage I lost MCXFee when it reached 0.12 adn now I lost this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345248.20

in all of them I was just there....... watching,.......

FUCK YOU UKYO, I hop you DIE a slow and horrible death alone in a dark alley.

[dnaleor]

FUCK YOU UKYO, I hop you DIE a low and horrible death alone in a dark alley.

just start calling him fukyou from now on...