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I would like to make a few of observations from the point of view of Bitcoin (and perhaps Litecoin) investors who have recently taken an interest in Nxt.
1) This project is being managed and run quite well - you guys are delivering results and improving the code constantly - this is creating a lot of interest.
2) Don't worry so much about all the "bells and whistles" now - get the basic stuff working solidly and keep to strict plans - nothing better than a project that runs smoothly and improves constantly.
3) "The revolution will not be centralised" - stick to this and keep the bounties going for small projects that help do this and help get the initial NXT spread around more.
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jl777
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January 12, 2014, 03:38:35 PM |
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For example, if your posts includes info about new exchanges, there is a strong likelyhood that the entire thread will be suspended as happened with the peercover thread on nextcoin.org
Yesterday I sent out a newsletter where I touched upon the manipulation tactics that you and your team are using. An example of those is that the above propaganda is not true. Peercover thread was not suspended, it was moved to trash folder as my requests to one of your puppets to change the opening post to not bash DGEX were not fulfilled. From that thread move you got more fuel to bolster your claims of manipulation and censorship. You know all well that when a forum has thousands of members it needs strong moderator activity. Trying to slip through that with unacceptable childish business practices and claiming suppression, is, yes, naive. All appropriately discussed competing exchanger threads are in good standing on nextcoin.org. As for DGEX operations, I don't know why you make such a fuss over it, other than your own covert agenda. Why not concentrate on bringing your own business advantages to the community instead of hanging onto what you consider the bad sides of your competitor. That actually starts to look rather pathological. Huh? I have no team, other than the NXT community itself. I have no puppets, nxtgt on his own started the thread, I only sent him 300XRP to help fund new ripple accts. To my knowledge this thread has a lot more members, but never has anything been censored or moved to the trash. Since you define what "appropriately discussed" means, it just sounds like censorship to me I don't have a covert agenda, my agenda is fully disclosed. I convinced peercover to run an exchange based on forging revenues as a model. I have no direct ties to peercover, I just like their tech. It is in the interest of NXT for there to be a way to trade NXT without fees. That is my agenda, not covert at all. I have a small fraction of NXT that you have, yet I have personally covered peercover's development costs of over 100000 NXT. Not the 800K that you lost (I do believe that you have lost this much), but what are you personally doing for the NXT community? Create some bounties. Why not create an 800K NXT bounty and give it to yourself to cover your losses? Then you can go back to the old model, which was good. forging revenues will continue to go up, you have 70 million on deposit and who knows how many more yourself. I am not trying to compete with you. I have no exchange of my own. I want what is best for NXT. Shouldn't you want the same? James |
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Asian Prepper
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January 12, 2014, 03:39:52 PM |
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Calling it Nextcoin will give the impression that it has no more to offer than BitCoin, DogeCoin, CatCoin, RonPaulCoin... (etc, etc)....when in reality there is going to be way more to NXTthan simply pushing money round the interwebs.
But we can fight on many fronts at the same time. To be succesful as a Nextcoin. To become the best mobile sms app known as Nxtalk. To be known as the best decentralized exchange known as Nxtrade... Then comes the day when all these functions will be used in one app I agree with this and I believe it's an excellent idea and naming strategy for marketing and promotion purposes. The only thing I would change is the spelling and use the conventional correct spelling so it's easy for new users to find, spell, and search online such as: Nextcoin Nexttalk Nexttrade and wrap it all under one umbrella such as "Next Economy"? I'm not sure about the "Next Economy" but I'm gonna definitely start referencing your terms in my upcoming Nextcoin videos unless I see a better naming convention. Tai Zen |
As of 2014-04-09 I no longer post as "Asian Prepper" and will post under my real name "Tai Zen" to eliminate confusion. Founder of www.PrisonOrFreedom.com | BTC: 19HHZ1yEimKUYVFM9TkXqd9xwM54jSFrmc | LTC: LTA99422wieqR1MfWeNxZU5xAsESE9MzW7 | NXT: 17225446755425423638 |
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utopianfuture
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January 12, 2014, 03:40:15 PM |
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This is a great marketing opportunity....can someone please give nakaone some support in this initiative. this is only one of many... there already is starcraft and poker idea, but there will be a huge number of many other online games played for Nxt. Not only 3Dgames or casinos, but also tournaments in online trading card games... Could you have all of these attempts listed in our promotion tracking thread ? |
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January 12, 2014, 03:42:57 PM |
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Isildur23 got 5k bounty from me for gathering info about current projects that need support. This is what we already have. Please correct, expand it. I'm going to post polished version in new topic I think we need to open some threads based on functionality instead of another thread when everything stays in the same place which is the same as this original thread. We should have at least three more threads like this: 1. NXT full feature clients - progress tracking thread 2. NXT security and user interface improvement - progress tracking thread 3. NXT arbitrary message and mobile application - progress tracking thread There threads will run parallel with the main thread here and the NXT source code report here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.0This will at least bring some organization to grass-root development we have here. I already prepare materials to open the NXT full feature clients - progress tracking thread which will then be linked to nextcoin and nxtcrypto forum so all specific updates regarding full feature client can go there. Someone should do the same for other thread and keep them updated. I would like to propose: 4. NXT Sales/Marketing/Promotion/ - to promote and spread the word about NXT. Not everyone here is a coder so there are other areas in which people with other expertise can use to promote nxt. |
As of 2014-04-09 I no longer post as "Asian Prepper" and will post under my real name "Tai Zen" to eliminate confusion. Founder of www.PrisonOrFreedom.com | BTC: 19HHZ1yEimKUYVFM9TkXqd9xwM54jSFrmc | LTC: LTA99422wieqR1MfWeNxZU5xAsESE9MzW7 | NXT: 17225446755425423638 |
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utopianfuture
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January 12, 2014, 03:45:38 PM |
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Isildur23 got 5k bounty from me for gathering info about current projects that need support. This is what we already have. Please correct, expand it. I'm going to post polished version in new topic I think we need to open some threads based on functionality instead of another thread when everything stays in the same place which is the same as this original thread. We should have at least three more threads like this: 1. NXT full feature clients - progress tracking thread 2. NXT security and user interface improvement - progress tracking thread 3. NXT arbitrary message and mobile application - progress tracking thread There threads will run parallel with the main thread here and the NXT source code report here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.0This will at least bring some organization to grass-root development we have here. I already prepare materials to open the NXT full feature clients - progress tracking thread which will then be linked to nextcoin and nxtcrypto forum so all specific updates regarding full feature client can go there. Someone should do the same for other thread and keep them updated. I would like to propose: 4. NXT Sales/Marketing/Promotion/ - to promote and spread the word about NXT. Not everyone here is a coder so there are other areas in which people with other expertise can use to promote nxt. It is done here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.0 . The thread updates would be based on decentralized effort. Please, contribute news from your site there . |
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January 12, 2014, 03:47:24 PM |
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I am not trying to compete with you. I have no exchange of my own. I want what is best for NXT. Shouldn't you want the same?
James
Guys - the sooner that you can work out your on the "same side" the better. I think you have pointed out some issues at dgex and I think that they have already started to change things accordingly. Fights don't help with the price of NXT and therefore don't really benefit either of your (or us) so let's try and focus on improving the technology and the platform. |
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January 12, 2014, 03:48:03 PM |
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Calling it Nextcoin will give the impression that it has no more to offer than BitCoin, DogeCoin, CatCoin, RonPaulCoin... (etc, etc)....when in reality there is going to be way more to NXTthan simply pushing money round the interwebs.
But we can fight on many fronts at the same time. To be succesful as a Nextcoin. To become the best mobile sms app known as Nxtalk. To be known as the best decentralized exchange known as Nxtrade... Then comes the day when all these functions will be used in one app I agree with this and I believe it's an excellent idea and naming strategy for marketing and promotion purposes. The only thing I would change is the spelling and use the conventional correct spelling so it's easy for new users to find, spell, and search online such as: Nextcoin Nexttalk Nexttrade and wrap it all under one umbrella such as "Next Economy"? I'm not sure about the "Next Economy" but I'm gonna definitely start referencing your terms in my upcoming Nextcoin videos unless I see a better naming convention. Tai Zen I am glad we are converging to same page! Are you sure it is better to use "next" instead of "nxt"? "next" is very generic and it is much harder to create a brand from a generic term. "nxt" is not generic at all and while it might be easier for people at first to use "next", long term it will have less value. That is the tradeoff with generic names, easy at first, but less value Please reconsider using "nxt" instead of "next", it will become a lot more memorable to people and that is ultimately what branding is about |
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January 12, 2014, 03:48:57 PM |
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Isildur23 got 5k bounty from me for gathering info about current projects that need support. This is what we already have. Please correct, expand it. I'm going to post polished version in new topic Thanks. I have added the alias forwarder to mynxt.info today. |
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January 12, 2014, 03:49:45 PM |
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This is a great marketing opportunity....can someone please give nakaone some support in this initiative. this is only one of many... there already is starcraft and poker idea, but there will be a huge number of many other online games played for Nxt. Not only 3Dgames or casinos, but also tournaments in online trading card games... well the thread was not opened for marketing reasons - cryptos are discussed in an investment on pokerstrategy.com anyway I do not know who is responsible for marketing of nxt but professional poker players should be a target group especially in the early days: - they understand investment extremely well - they have a high affinity to online payments and working with money online - they are young and open to new ideas - they often struggle with taxation/regulation issues and are therefore interested in alternative investments - they have tons of money and a burning ambition to make more money well I also came from poker to crypto due to the bitcoin thread on pokerstrategy.com I'll try to clarify some isse in the nxt thread as well as in the btc thread on pokerstrategy.com from an economics perspective (initial profession) |
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January 12, 2014, 03:51:46 PM |
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I took a look at ur blog and in the very beginning I saw What Is The Difference Between Bitcoin’s “Proof Of Work” Vs. Peercoin & Nextcoin’s “Proof Of Stake”? Could u replace "Nextcoin" with "Nxt"? |
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January 12, 2014, 03:52:30 PM |
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So if someone wants a bounty please come up with something new and innovating. Translating this into current situation we have: - Nexern; client - Macros03; client - Allwelder: for his efforts on the Chinese front (don’t know if he had bounty already) - Bounty given for demands of CfB - All new innovating initiatives that fits the NXT needs atm. But let it be clear it has to be fully worked out projects Also we have to think how to manage this in the future so please attend the debate https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=529Just my idea and opinion Pin Before things get out of control, my nick is marcus03 and this is in fact my real first name (but without the "03")...  Is there a way to change my nickname "asian prepper" to my real name "Tai Zen"? I looked but can't find it anywhere? |
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January 12, 2014, 03:53:43 PM |
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I looked but can't find it anywhere?
You have to message "theymos" to do that (it shouldn't be a problem but might take a day or so). |
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January 12, 2014, 03:55:12 PM |
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25000 NXT Bounty
neer.g has funded the project to allow websites to accept NXT. I know that wesleyh is working on this. If anybody else is interested in helping, please contact me. I will be allocating the 25K NXT proportional to contribution. I won't be keeping any of it for myself.
Now that NXT server is getting more and more stable, the time has come to make it as easy as possible for websites to accept NXT. wesleyh came up with a way that merchants can accept NXT without even running a NXT server. Not sure exactly how he can do that, but if he can, I think that would be really cool!
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January 12, 2014, 03:56:53 PM |
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Do you guys know what soft/extension I can use for using aliases in browser?
I was using 22k so far, but doesn't seem to be updated with the link reassignments..
What alias? I'll dig into it. |
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January 12, 2014, 04:04:45 PM |
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NXT community, Please think. Every time there is a dicision to be made we tend to hold on to CfB and help us out, 9 out of 10 times he is telling us, the community has to decide. One day CfB will be gone any idea how we gonna do it then. Who will tricker this or that event organize polls or votings etc.. My question is… Do we need some sort of foundation (purely administrative) if so how would be the structure: can we achieve that in a decentralized way? - Chairman (multisig) - Secretary (multisig) - PR - TO (technical officer) - DEV - Member(multisig) - Member - Member Maybe some will kill me now but have to bring it up we cant circle arround it forever, what are the alternatives? We need some sort of plan till April and yes CfB you can put me on ignore  Pin |
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January 12, 2014, 04:06:43 PM |
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I made a thread in nextcoin.org to post the most important and valuable info from this thread as many ppl can't follow everything here.
Please use an uncensored forum: forums.nxtcrypto.org I wasn't sure if such a thread would be useful so i asked Graviton what he thinks and he said it will be useful. I think Graviton saw ppl's reaction and will answer their expetations from now on. @utopianfuture has already made progress-tracking threads so i will add important info from those threads as well. I hope this thread becomes something like a place for quick updates https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2775.0.htmlI may create the same in forums.nxtcrypto.org if it works well. A lot of people only go to nxtcrypto.org A public forum should not have to worry about not offending the forum owner's other business interests. It has been made clear that any posts that mention dgex in a negative light will be suspended, removed, etc, even if the "negative light" is factual. It has all been justified as anything that is in business interest of graviton is fair game. It is his exchange, is forum, so fine, he can make his own rules. However, knowing this we need to have a place that we can trust won't censor things. For example, if your posts includes info about new exchanges, there is a strong likelyhood that the entire thread will be suspended as happened with the peercover thread on nextcoin.org Graviton, I am not attacking you. I am only repeating what you have stated. Running a forum that has the constraint of not saying anything negative about dgex, does not make it an unbiased forum that can be freely used. Please consider making nextcoin.org truly independent. I doubt you are making much money from it. Information needs to flow freely. You have helped the NXT community and the NXT community has helped you. As one of the largest NXT holders, you should be thinking LONG TERM about the value of NXT. You have lost 800K of NXT, probably recovered a couple hundred thousand from the fees. However, 95% of trading volume is gone. Even with Asset Exchange on the horizon, we still need ways to trade NXT, especially for people without NXT. Wouldn't it make more sense to truly become part of the NXT community, instead of your current arms-length position? Remove all censorship from nextcoin.org Change withdrawal fee to 1 NXT and .0001 BTC on dgex and make money with a per trade commission AND forging revenues on 70 million NXT. Don't make it look like you put the withdrawal fees so you can trap the NXT and collect the large transaction fees from the Asset Exchange launch. Don't you already have enough NXT? Why do you need to keep grabbing for more? How many bounties have you given out? Not attacking, just trying to get you to understand where the community's feelings are coming from. These are my recommendations. James Why doesn't everyone post on https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/ ? why are all the main people in nxt posting here? the only reason i came over here while looking for more info on nxt was was because all the updates n developments are here. I believe all the nxt developers migrate over to https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/ so new people like myself can follow along. btc talk is way to big now n it was hell trying to find this thread. nxt is decentralized n that's good but we need a centralized place where all nxters can congregrate as a community without any ties to dgex or any future exchange. We can't run around n claim that nxt is new generation crypto when we are still living under big daddy btc's house. This is like a teenager claiming they are an adult but still lives with their parents. Now that the source code is out... I propose nxt establishes a new residency at https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/ or everyone vote for a new home n everyone make the move. Thoughts? Cuz I'm tired of keeping up with nextcoin.org, nxtcrypto.org, bitcointalk.org, etc. Remember, i've said this all along about all cryptos... the key to success with mass public adoption is "user friendliness"! We have to make it to so that it is a "no brainer" for new people to find, learn, adopt, n use nxt. From a marketing perspective... user friendliness is way more important then fancy features (in he beginning). Lets establish one location where people can learn and collaborate on nxt. I don't have much of a brain like some of u guys so if something is easy for me... u can rest assure that it is a good litmus test that it will be easy for the rest of the public. |
As of 2014-04-09 I no longer post as "Asian Prepper" and will post under my real name "Tai Zen" to eliminate confusion. Founder of www.PrisonOrFreedom.com | BTC: 19HHZ1yEimKUYVFM9TkXqd9xwM54jSFrmc | LTC: LTA99422wieqR1MfWeNxZU5xAsESE9MzW7 | NXT: 17225446755425423638 |
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January 12, 2014, 04:10:03 PM |
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NXT community, Please think. Every time there is a dicision to be made we tend to hold on to CfB and help us out, 9 out of 10 times he is telling us, the community has to decide. One day CfB will be gone any idea how we gonna do it then. Who will tricker this or that event organize polls or votings etc.. My question is… Do we need some sort of foundation (purely administrative) if so how would be the structure: can we achieve that in a decentralized way? - Chairman (multisig) - Secretary (multisig) - PR - TO (technical officer) - DEV - Member(multisig) - Member - Member Maybe some will kill me now but have to bring it up we cant circle arround it forever, what are the alternatives? We need some sort of plan till April and yes CfB you can put me on ignore Pin Nxt voting system - anyone can suggest a poll |
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jl777
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January 12, 2014, 04:17:29 PM |
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NXT community, Please think. Every time there is a dicision to be made we tend to hold on to CfB and help us out, 9 out of 10 times he is telling us, the community has to decide. One day CfB will be gone any idea how we gonna do it then. Who will tricker this or that event organize polls or votings etc.. My question is… Do we need some sort of foundation (purely administrative) if so how would be the structure: can we achieve that in a decentralized way? - Chairman (multisig) - Secretary (multisig) - PR - TO (technical officer) - DEV - Member(multisig) - Member - Member Maybe some will kill me now but have to bring it up we cant circle arround it forever, what are the alternatives? We need some sort of plan till April and yes CfB you can put me on ignore Pin Slippery slope to the darkside? I think NXT economy will become too big for any single organization to properly "manage" it. There are already founders ready and willing to fund a community fund. This will create a stream of NXT to fund projects and functions for the entire NXT community. Kind of like a fiat government where a bunch of rich people said, hey, we'll pay all the taxes so nobody else has to and everybody gets all the nice infrastructure. Pretty incredible if you think about it! Since NXT is decentralized, you can even setup a centralized organization to deal with specific issues. It is just a matter of getting the funding. The golden rule. Before we jump into creating a NXT bureaucracy, why not figure out what global functions the NXT community needs. Once we have that, then we can see which of them can be successfully run with volunteers, which needs funding, etc. James |
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January 12, 2014, 04:20:51 PM |
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I took a look at ur blog and in the very beginning I saw What Is The Difference Between Bitcoin’s “Proof Of Work” Vs. Peercoin & Nextcoin’s “Proof Of Stake”? Could u replace "Nextcoin" with "Nxt"? I will include the (NXT) Ssymbol in the title it but I'm telling you guys... I work in sales/marketing full time and I tell people all the time that "nothing kills a sale faster then confusion". With nxt, nothing kills adoption faster then confusion... I have a good nose for these things and have done well in sales/marketing because I got good at figuring out how to eliminate friction n confusion in sales n marketing... Tai Zen |
As of 2014-04-09 I no longer post as "Asian Prepper" and will post under my real name "Tai Zen" to eliminate confusion. Founder of www.PrisonOrFreedom.com | BTC: 19HHZ1yEimKUYVFM9TkXqd9xwM54jSFrmc | LTC: LTA99422wieqR1MfWeNxZU5xAsESE9MzW7 | NXT: 17225446755425423638 |
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