NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[jl777]

Apart from this jump today because of Bter.com, the price is depressingly not going anywhere - actually moving down.

You would think that NXT would gain a momentum by now, that it be proven that it's not a scam and that that would reflect in price, but no - it's not doing anything.

There should be more hype, more demand...

Tell me honestly you don't fell the same way? (put aside todays move)

just need to fund Salsacz's marketing plan

[wakasaki808]

NOT GOOD

I am not sure, but this looks like our hacker:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=10715382765594435905

That's BTER's address, I think.

yup that's correct actually lol. Nothing to see here.

My transaction I just sent was transferred there.
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=14435579736372331179

[Secondleo]

It is gaining momentum, the amount of accounts keep going up so lots more people are getting involved in NXT.
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=40&sub=6
If that isn't a bullish indicator I don't know what is. We'll probably start seeing more of a rise in price with media coverage, but we really need better clients out first.

actually this is a Saturday number... Weekends are richer

Also, aside from Andreas Antonopolous (even he isn't updated on what it actually is - but he got the news about NXT somewhere), who of the "key" people of crypto is talking about NXT? Forget this inside circle of devs and investors for a moment.

Are they not aware of it? Do they think it's irrelevant?

A lot of reasons

Right now it's small enough to be ignored.
It is not so obvious in the sea of altcoins (this always reminds me of sausage fest. There are so many altcoins and yet so few fiat )
You know Bitcoin, you know altcoins. Every last single one of them.
To talk meaningful about NXT you have to learn again.
A week back everyone screamed NXT is a scam.

Just a lot of things.

If you own NXT, be happy. You're in the boat from the beginning.

Imagine you could have invested in Bitcoin back in 2009.

So, welcome aboard. You know where the exit is. Would be a shame if you leave this early though

I am an investor. I'm not leaving. I know what NXT is. I wasn't talking about the points you are.

Well, guess I just don't get you then

NXT doesn't have as much recognition as I think it deserves...

D'accord on that. But I think in that case you don't get me
Anyway. Bedtime. Have a nice night guys.

[minusbalancer]

I just checked the running nodes and ... wow.

Even since i warned like 1000 times do not use alpha client for own client development - there is already some crazy copy.
http://s16.postimg.org/5dg1ykk2t/nxt_lol.png

Please do not use any copies that were not published by me.

[Damelon]

Can I just thank the owners of 9596636314676722420 and 11398199344229200622 massively for their donations?

Very unexpected and very much appreciated. The support level amongst Nxters is amazing

[drdops]

ok, so I have the web client running. is there anything else that I need to do to "forge" nxt?  Sorry if this has been answered. 1000+ pages is a lot to wade through.

You need some Nxt, and no high expectations of getting a block if you don't have a big amount.

Forging is nothing like mining. You won't get rich by forging

Well, if you invest the price of a decent bitcoin mining rig into nextcoins and a raspberry pi to forge with, things look a lot different.

And as a nice side effect, that mining rig has only minimal power consumption and will not stop earning because someone just made a better ASIC.

True, but I had the assumption he didn't have Nxt yet.
If you have a substantial wallet, the returns could be nice, especially if fees go up as they did today.

How much is a substantial wallet? ball park?
I have a sizeable quantity ( but maybe its relatively small) which i leave on an exchange. Would I be better moving them to the client and leave it running? Is that forging?

[BitcoinForumator]

Apart from this jump today because of Bter.com, the price is depressingly not going anywhere - actually moving down.

You would think that NXT would gain a momentum by now, that it be proven that it's not a scam and that that would reflect in price, but no - it's not doing anything.

There should be more hype, more demand...

Tell me honestly you don't fell the same way? (put aside todays move)

just need to fund Salsacz's marketing plan

Yes it needs an improvement of it's image and a wider spread. Marketing...

[coolmist]

I wrote a program to upload a file to the blockchain. Will work with any type of file.

Code:

script AppDelegate
	property parent : class "NSObject"
    property secretPhrase : missing value
    property messageFee : missing value
    property accountReceiver : missing value
    property messageEncrypted : missing value
    property keyReceiver : missing value

	
    on assimilateFile_(sender)
        
        
        set base64path to "/Library/NXTFileClient/tempfile.txt"
        set inFilePath to POSIX path of (choose file with prompt "Please select file for assimilation." )
        
        do shell script "openssl base64 -in " & inFilePath & " -out " &  base64path
        
        
        open for access base64path
        
         tell current application to  set ciphertext to read  base64path
        
        close access base64path
        
        --cipher to hex
        set thelist to "0123456789ABCDEF"
        set hexvalue to ""
        repeat with i in ciphertext
            set theAscii to ASCII number of i
            set hexvalue to hexvalue & character (theAscii div 16 + 1) of thelist & character (theAscii mod 16 + 1) of thelist
        end repeat
        
        set secretPhrase to "0"
        
        set finalText to (hexvalue as text)
        --cipher to hex
        
        set messageLength to the length of finalText
        
        set var_a to messageLength / 4
        
        set var_b to var_a / 200
        
        set iterations to round var_b rounding up
        
        set counter to 1
        repeat iterations times
            
            if messageLength is less than 800 then
                
                set charnumberalpha to 1
                set charnumberbeta to messageLength
                
                else
                set charmaximum to messageLength
                
                if  counter is equal to iterations then
                    
                    set charnumberalpha to 1 + 800 * (counter - 1)
                    set charnumberbeta to charmaximum
                    
                    else
                    
                    set charnumberalpha to 1 + 800 * (counter - 1)
                    set charnumberbeta to 800 + 800 * (counter -1)
                    
                end if
                
                
            end if
            
            set messageFinal to (text charnumberalpha thru charnumberbeta of finalText)
            
            if counter is less than 10 then
                set identifierLength to 1
                
                else
                
                set identifierLength to the length of counter
                
            end if
            
            
            
            set completeMessage to identifierLength & "000" & counter & "000" & messageFinal
            
            set urlMassive to  "http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=sendMessage&secretPhrase=" & secretPhrase & "&recipient=" &  accountReceiver & "&fee=" & messageFee & "&deadline=1440" & "&message=" & completeMessage
            
            do shell script "open " & quoted form of urlMassive
            
            set counter to counter + 1
        end repeat
        
    end assimilateFile_
	on applicationWillFinishLaunching_(aNotification)
		-- Insert code here to initialize your application before any files are opened 
	end applicationWillFinishLaunching_
	
	on applicationShouldTerminate_(sender)
		-- Insert code here to do any housekeeping before your application quits 
		return current application's NSTerminateNow
	end applicationShouldTerminate_
	
end script

[Damelon]

ok, so I have the web client running. is there anything else that I need to do to "forge" nxt?  Sorry if this has been answered. 1000+ pages is a lot to wade through.

You need some Nxt, and no high expectations of getting a block if you don't have a big amount.

Forging is nothing like mining. You won't get rich by forging

Well, if you invest the price of a decent bitcoin mining rig into nextcoins and a raspberry pi to forge with, things look a lot different.

And as a nice side effect, that mining rig has only minimal power consumption and will not stop earning because someone just made a better ASIC.

True, but I had the assumption he didn't have Nxt yet.
If you have a substantial wallet, the returns could be nice, especially if fees go up as they did today.

How much is a substantial wallet? ball park?
I have a sizeable quantity ( but maybe its relatively small) which i leave on an exchange. Would I be better moving them to the client and leave it running? Is that forging?

You only forge with Nxt that is in your account.
One of the bases of calculation for your chances for forging a block is the amount of your Nxt in the account divided by the total Nxt "in play" on the network.
Nxt on an exchange does not benefit you for forging, only Nxt in your open account.

Edit: I believe the amount for forging one block a day lies in the region of 200,000 Nxt, but I may be off with that.

[bitcoinpaul]

Marcus03, was your intention to have it closed from the very beginning? If yes, I had misunderstood it completely.

Ok, in this this case I offer to develop 2 clients both Windows and OS X, both open source. My tools of choice would be Embarcadero FireMonkey. Language either Delphi or C++ Builder.

Would community be interested in this?

I agree with Marcus03 ... you can do it. Marcus03 and i doing our clients without any rewards.
dotNXT (my client implementation) will be open source but not at this moment.

Marcus03 have done a really good job on making the nice looking client which uses the original client. I do not understand why are you trying to push him to open the source.

Isn't it Marcus03's right not to open the source?

I'm fine with his explanation. Also it's better not to open the source until April at least. With Nexern's client too.

Maybe CFB or other core programmer can check the code and approve it? Then we all can use the client.

I understand Marcus03 and his third-party-problems. But right now, in the beginning of NXT where everyone is nervous and after the client exploit in december, using a non-open-source client is kinda weird.

Please let's recap for me: Which clients are open source and which aren't?

We need simple, open source clients for Win and Mac. Am I wrong?

[NxtChg]

Whoever just deposited 200,000 - you forgot to specify your NXT address, I can't find you.

Please update your address on the Deposit page.

[drdops]

ok, so I have the web client running. is there anything else that I need to do to "forge" nxt?  Sorry if this has been answered. 1000+ pages is a lot to wade through.

You need some Nxt, and no high expectations of getting a block if you don't have a big amount.

Forging is nothing like mining. You won't get rich by forging

Well, if you invest the price of a decent bitcoin mining rig into nextcoins and a raspberry pi to forge with, things look a lot different.

And as a nice side effect, that mining rig has only minimal power consumption and will not stop earning because someone just made a better ASIC.

True, but I had the assumption he didn't have Nxt yet.
If you have a substantial wallet, the returns could be nice, especially if fees go up as they did today.

How much is a substantial wallet? ball park?
I have a sizeable quantity ( but maybe its relatively small) which i leave on an exchange. Would I be better moving them to the client and leave it running? Is that forging?

You only forge with Nxt that is in your account.
One of the bases of calculation for your chances for forging a block is the amount of your Nxt in the account divided by the total Nxt "in play" on the network.
Nxt on an exchange does not benefit you for forging, only Nxt in your open account.

Edit: I believe the amount for forging one block a day lies in the region of 200,000 Nxt, but I may be off with that.

Thanks.
Is it ok to stay on 0.4.7? see people with issues after upgrade..

[Damelon]

Thanks.
Is it ok to stay on 0.4.7? see people with issues after upgrade..

No, you should definitely upgrade.
The old client does not have advanced features installed and is also less stable.

I understand Marcus03 and his third-party-problems with. But right now, in the beginning of NXT where everyone is nervous and after the client exploit in december, using a non-open-source client is kinda weird.

Please let's recap for me: Which clients are open source and which aren't?

We need simple and open source clients for Win and Mac. Am I wrong?

Might be, but I feel people were kind of harsh towards Marcus03. He has been open about the closed source nature of his client from the very beginning.
Some appreciation for his good work needs to be extended, at the very least.

For myself I'm not that worried, but I can understand that people want to be as open about everything as possible.

Marcus03 has asked for suggestions to prove his client is AOK. Aren't there ways to prove his software is trustworthy that can be verified by all or a trusted source?

[nonstopdonkey]

no better promo than this explanation to counter myths.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rIO_McRPwQ


this is tai zen aka asian pepper. give him some donations.

done

[opticalcarrier]

Thanks.
Is it ok to stay on 0.4.7? see people with issues after upgrade..

No, you should definitely upgrade.
The old client does not have advanced features installed and is also less stable.

not just that, but he will fork off at a certain point as well and will no longer be on the right chain

[ferment]

(building DNAs in c/c++ is dangerous, you can't sandboxing this. at least with a granularity nessesary.
interpreted, prototype and self reflectional languages are much better for this, they are also widely used
within academic ai research and there are several good reason for this.)

i suppose this was written for me, and i suppose this means that you did see my comment. so you are talking about something like lisp? i only suggested c++ because it has a lot of flexibility but is also widely known. not very many people know lisp. but if your argument is right than i suppose they could just learn if they wanted to write a contract that would found a DAC.

I'm looking at javascript, lua, and scala. Instead of embedding code in the blockchain, it might be interesting to store a reference to code and some kind of SHA.

[allwelder]

Seems like NXT is starting to kick off in China but it raises one issue. I think NXT needs to think more globally in terms of marketing. Ripple successfully had a giveaway on a major Chinese internet portal. I suggest NXT if they want the Chinese onboard should do a similar thing with unclaimed NXT or a bounty etc. Giving away a small number of NXT and help set them up the client would increase numbers massively, maybe once a more user friendly client is up though. I think the big selling point could be anonymity to the Chinese and Indians and other nations in similar government headlocks for that matter..

Agree China is a big market.

yes

[bitcoinpaul]

His client looks really great! Good work, as I already said.

But it feels strange to use and promote software which isn't open source now for our precious NXTs. And this open source API talk, well. I suppose I'm not the only one who would see this only as a so-so solution. We want newcomers to have trust in the whole nxt system. And if the client, which we promote on nxtcrypto.org and other sites to newcomers, is not the 'purest client ever', this could maybe shed a bad light on everything.

Which clients are or will be open source?

[Orrechorre]

hello, im pretty new to nxt but for me it seems to be a really good and promising coin.

but im wondering if their is any giveaways left? because i want to start forking and only have a couple of nxt

and id there is any kind soul out there that wants to donate some here is my address:

1245886938746430210

[nonstopdonkey]

Omg, someone cleared 3 of my accounts....

I used 256bit keys generated by Keepass 2. I am using  NRS 0.5.8 that installed today and downloaded from nxtcrypto.org. I am using Windows 7 Professional and am running Avira and Microsoft Security Essentials.

The NXT was transferred about half an hour ago, also while i was forging.

My PC was running unlocked but i can be 99.99% sure that no one had access to it physically. So I don't really know how this happend?!? It can't be bruteforce right?
My accounts:
8423671173148912884   107,217
12345678612257264594   71
13486646175575465553   998
The NXT are now in this account:
696356957947686421 Balance Total    :   108,286 NXT

Fuck me...

Btw the password of the third account was for example: af5c73ca7cf5f25ffa3b6b1689f40aaf60fd040b0de298c1ca661f8602d38311

Any chance of seeing these NXT again?

This is not a fully secure password. This looks very much like a Hex number. Only lower case a to f and Numbers. Something like that, even as long as it is, is cracked rather fast.

It seems someone out there is brute forcing with number chains.

I had an account which had another rather serious flaw in choice of password. It was luckily not hacked.

There is no way this can be right. If that was a true random hex number with that many digits there is no way it could be cracked easily. Can someone else input on this?

Keypass is legitimate. I have been using it for a very long time. It would not have generated the example that was given. Keypass is much more random.