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January 05, 2014, 03:31:53 PM
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PLEASE just give me the respect that I feel I have earned and certainly more than the pre-pretty charts yuriygeorge!! PLEASE do not accuse me of being dishonest, that really hurts me.

Hope you haven't perceived my comments about giving people a 'Heads Up!', in regard to differences between trading NXT/XRP and NXT/BTC, as disrespectful.

I didn't, it was more the posts where they said they didn't trust my motives that I had a reaction to.

CfB, I am looking up datz's profile next, I remember it on the API thread

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January 05, 2014, 03:33:53 PM
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datz is the owner of peercover, the peercover main NXT address is 2269220637361284198

Does datz have account on BTT? What's his profile?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22156

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January 05, 2014, 03:34:54 PM
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WHY ARE PEOPLE AFRAID OF RIPPLE?
Because they think its something wrong with it?

Of course ripple isn't perfect, NXT isn't perfect, nothing is. If there are specific technical concerns, I can try to get an answer for it, I even have contacts within ripple labs. That does not make me a ripple controlled zombie.

I am not saying for everyone to use ripple. If you don't want to no need to. I just was really hurt by accusations by a couple of people against me for providing an alternative to dgex. Just because you don't like ripple, don't flame me. Fair enough?

James

P.S. I asked people to trade NXT/BTC, but the only real orderbook is NXT/XRP. What this means is that you need to look at the price of BTC/XRP which is around 31000 now, take reciprocal -> 0.000032258064516 per XRP, so 2 XRP is double that = ~.0000645, 3 XRP = ~.0000968
If you are not comfortable holding XRP, then as soon as you sell your NXT and have XRP you can simply send BTC directly to your bitcoin address using the Send page in ripple wallet. It will automatically covert XRP to bitcoin and make sure you confirm the exchange rate before sending. You will only have to taint your acct with XRP for a minute or two.

except that now it looks like BTC/XRP is around 34000 which gets us 0.0260588 and bids are at 2.20000 =0.05732936, and asks at 2.7 =0.07035876  

btc / ripple * current  right?


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Thank u.
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January 05, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
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PLEASE just give me the respect that I feel I have earned and certainly more than the pre-pretty charts yuriygeorge!! PLEASE do not accuse me of being dishonest, that really hurts me.

Hope you haven't perceived my comments about giving people a 'Heads Up!', in regard to differences between trading NXT/XRP and NXT/BTC, as disrespectful.

Hi James, earlier I just suggested that you open a thread and introduce peercovers to newcomers at two main nxt forums: nxtcrypto and nextcoin. There many people want to get in NXT at an alternative exchange. There your efforts would be well spent. Here as much effort you spent on writing, it would be lost in the sea of pages after an hour.
You are of course welcome to write where you want but isn't that a good suggestion ? Thanks you for all your contributions so far.  


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January 05, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
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Anyone used the android app to send nxt. The app looks great i just havnt built up the courage to log into my account with my pass phrase.

which one?
there are two:

with sources published (tested this with a small test account, pretty cool):
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,797.0.html
Thats the one im using. So you can confirm its safe to enter secret phrase. Im not suggesting the dev is dishonest i just dont want my secret phrase intercepted.

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January 05, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
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Quote from: GCInc.
DGEX works just fine and is lowering fees on Jan 5th.

What the???  It's January 5th and NXT withdrawals have been *increased* from 1.2% to 1.4%!


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Now that Dgex is fucked up again.. where to trade Nxt?

Is it a DDoS?

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January 05, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
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Looks like you are his friend now and do not think racionally Cheesy (or haven't got as much experience with catching hackers as me, who had been dealing with thousands of cheaters)

Ha ha ha.  Do not confuse my being friendly to a known criminal during an interrogation with me being his friend.  He deserves respect as a human being but he is guilty as sin and I know that for a fact.  The only question is, just how guilty is he?

I know I am a little off balance at the moment and that's why I've pulled back for a day and brought everybody here up to speed so I can listen to your ideas.  All my efforts so far have been tracking this guy down in the real world to get some leverage over him, and I have accomplished that goal.  Now that  he sees me as a real threat to whether or not he spends next week in his own bed or a police holding cell, he's not going anywhere.  He's reading this right now.  So I can now take the time to go back and do the necessary homework you describe.  I know the importance of a detailed and complete timeline and your data is exactly what I am going to piece together next, so thanks for your contribution.  I will announce my findings in later posts and also update my "interim report" as a central holding point for the accumulating pieces of the puzzle such as the ones you give.

Trust me, there's gonna be a Final Report.

And nope, I ain't got your experience a-catchin' hackers.  I'm just a poor ole country boy (and MIT grad) doin' the gosh-darn best I can.

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January 05, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
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Thats the one im using. So you can confirm its safe to enter secret phrase. Im not suggesting the dev is dishonest i just dont want my secret phrase intercepted.

I can't confirm that Smiley I wouldn't use an account with any significant amount of NXT in this app just yet, I only tested to see what this app can do.
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January 05, 2014, 03:42:19 PM
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Running 0.5.0 on my own VPS and stuck on:

   
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for 7 hrs.  tried rebooting but still stuck

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January 05, 2014, 03:44:01 PM
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Looks like you are his friend now and do not think racionally Cheesy (or haven't got as much experience with catching hackers as me, who had been dealing with thousands of cheaters)

Ha ha ha.  Do not confuse my being friendly to a known criminal during an interrogation with me being his friend.  He deserves respect as a human being but he is guilty as sin and I know that for a fact.  The only question is, just how guilty is he?

I know I am a little off balance at the moment and that's why I've pulled back for a day and brought everybody here up to speed so I can listen to your ideas.  All my efforts so far have been tracking this guy down in the real world to get some leverage over him, and I have accomplished that goal.  Now that  he sees me as a real threat to whether or not he spends next week in his own bed or a police holding cell, he's not going anywhere.  He's reading this right now.  So I can now take the time to go back and do the necessary homework you describe.  I know the importance of a detailed and complete timeline and your data is exactly what I am going to piece together next, so thanks for your contribution.  I will announce my findings in later posts and also update my "interim report" as a central holding point for the accumulating pieces of the puzzle such as the ones you give.

Trust me, there's gonna be a Final Report.

And nope, I ain't got your experience a-catchin' hackers.  I'm just a poor ole country boy (and MIT grad) doin' the gosh-darn best I can.



Thanks ricky for the work you have done. I am unfortunately no detective even though I love to read Sherlock Homes and Hercule Poirot


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January 05, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
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What the???  It's January 5th and NXT withdrawals have been *increased* from 1.2% to 1.4%!
Jan 5th is not over

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Is it a DDoS?
Various types of Denial of service.

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GCInc., many thanks for your response.
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January 05, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
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Ricky can you. track down drexme as well?  He absconded with the nextcoin donation acct with 33k nxt in it

What the heck, I don't have enough time to do all the other stuff I gotta do, so sure, I'll take him on later next week.  One crusade at a time.   Grin
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January 05, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
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Looks like you are his friend now and do not think racionally Cheesy (or haven't got as much experience with catching hackers as me, who had been dealing with thousands of cheaters)

Ha ha ha.  Do not confuse my being friendly to a known criminal during an interrogation with me being his friend.  He deserves respect as a human being but he is guilty as sin and I know that for a fact.  The only question is, just how guilty is he?

I know I am a little off balance at the moment and that's why I've pulled back for a day and brought everybody here up to speed so I can listen to your ideas.  All my efforts so far have been tracking this guy down in the real world to get some leverage over him, and I have accomplished that goal.  Now that  he sees me as a real threat to whether or not he spends next week in his own bed or a police holding cell, he's not going anywhere.  He's reading this right now.  So I can now take the time to go back and do the necessary homework you describe.  I know the importance of a detailed and complete timeline and your data is exactly what I am going to piece together next, so thanks for your contribution.  I will announce my findings in later posts and also update my "interim report" as a central holding point for the accumulating pieces of the puzzle such as the ones you give.

Trust me, there's gonna be a Final Report.

And nope, I ain't got your experience a-catchin' hackers.  I'm just a poor ole country boy (and MIT grad) doin' the gosh-darn best I can.



Well its good to have marshal rickyjames out there regulating the outlaws!
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January 05, 2014, 03:51:02 PM
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is here Mr Blockchain Explorer? I want a button for the next page Cheesy http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34
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January 05, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
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I personally sent peercover the 100000 NXT to make sure all withdrawals would be covered since dgex at the time not responsive and no way to get real NXT transferred to peercover any other way. Sorry, nxtchg.com is not financed enough to be considered for large NXT exchange.

I spent full day during dgex created emergency so that NXT will have a place to trade. Remember it was not even working, simultaneously with src release. Strategically, it is unacceptable for there to be no way to trade NXT in large volumes. I sent XRP to fund people's accts and all of them returned back, showing the honesty of NXT'ers. People can and have traded NXT on ripple enabled by peercover. Peercover also has a direct trade page that allows for trading without using ripple wallet. Still need ripple acct.

However, for my efforts to create an alternative to dgex, I am accused of taking advantage of people somehow. dgex screws everyone and I am accused of bad faith? Covering 100000 NXT gives me super big advantage? I also was told to stop posting here, something I don't remember even yuriygeorge was told to do Sad

As I reviewed the voting, I didn't find a single mention of the peercover solution, until CfB did.

Just wanted to let you know I appreciate your efforts.

WHY ARE PEOPLE AFRAID OF RIPPLE?

I can't speak for others, but I'd not bothered with Ripple before you mentioned it in connection to the Peercover gateway.

Figuring out how to use Ripple going from zero info, other than your postings, was interesting.

I set up a Ripple account and funded it with a small test amount by buying XRP from Justcoins.com.  The 1st hurdle was figuring out why my account wasn't being credited the 1k XRP I sent... turns out, I think, it was just a random problem in the Ripple network and I was able to fund the account on a second test try of 300 XRP about half a day later.  My first transfer was just a bad dice throw, so to speak.  Eventually, the failed 1k XRP transfer was re-credited to my Justcoins account, and I was able to send it to my Ripple wallet ok on the second try.

Once that was done, figuring out how to use the Ripple wallet for trading -- assigning trust and such -- took a little reading of FAQs.  While reading the FAQs, to gain a better understanding, I would often refer back to your postings here about Ripple.  I'm still not sure I have a good grasp of how trust is supposed to work.

Or, to put it another way, I'm still not sure I'm fully understanding how to do trades via Ripple.  Sure, I was able to execute a small test trade of 278 XRP for 100 NXT and then deposit that 100 NXT from Peercover via Ripple to my account.  

However the other test trades I made on Ripple didn't seem to do anything.  That may have been because my sell prices were too high and my buy prices too low, or I may be misunderstanding something else about how trades and trust are supposed to work... not sure.  I still have experimenting to do.

My slow move to Peercover's gateway is because I don't understand how to use Ripple well enough yet.  Maybe others are having the same sort of learning curve as well.

P.S. Has anybody checked whether the stolen NXT is in darkNXT accts? If it is darkNXT, then we can believe the thief but then the problem becomes that we misanalyzed the entire episode. darkNXT is the biggest threat to NXT right now, it must be fixed in all ways. I feel this 100000 ways.

I agree with you here, also.  I've been looking at the code, specifically how transactions are handled, but I'm still just coming up to speed on it.  I'm not a Java programmer.  I trust others who are more competent than I am are looking too.

"An awful lot of code is being written ... in languages that aren't very good by people who don't know what they're doing." -- Barbara Liskov
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January 05, 2014, 03:56:52 PM
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Bad luck, two times had a chance and both time didn't succeed. This is not bad luck, this is a my habitude Smiley
But question remains: if I don't need to restart java console, do I need only reload client side in browser? Because after this accident, recent blocks became with minus sign ant still minus quantity increases, looks like client lost the chain.
If the recent blocks became negative, it is a bug then. We haven't seen this bug recently and I thought it's gone, but apparently not. Next time this happens please report any errors from the console.
If reloading the page and restarting the browser isn't enough, then you also have to restart the java process indeed.

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Can I donate to this site owner so he can buy a domain name?
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January 05, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
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Ricky can you. track down drexme as well?  He absconded with the nextcoin donation acct with 33k nxt in it

What the heck, I don't have enough time to do all the other stuff I gotta do, so sure, I'll take him on later next week.  One crusade at a time.   Grin

Really, I thought he handed the donation fund to Opticalc.  I know because he sent my 25k back to me.  Also, Drexme was extremely helpful with getting the client up and running for me and others, he seemed like a pretty honest person.
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