NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Damelon]

https://www.newaltex.com/ is finally taking off a bit.

Also, Nxt is being listed on the Dutch portal to Cryptsy: http://www.coinbeurs.nl/
Nxt is also being discussed on the biggest IT/Geeks site of the Netherlands Tweakers.net, but not in a good way (although some people there have stakes).

I was wondering where the boost in traffic to my site was coming from

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[pinarello]

I always wondered why Voting System was such an emphasized part of NXT. Now I know. BCNext knew that nobody, not even himself, could solve all the problems ahead of time.

If NXT ever runs into the systemic problems bitcoin is running into, we will be able to vote on the best solution.

James

Currently you have voting system in bitcoin. Each miner can vote with his mining power, but it is completely centralized by ASIC factories... and that is really stupid.

Anyway 1NxT=1 vote is better than bitcoin voting system but it is still not the best solution. For example if in the future something is better for the whole comunity, but has few bad effects to the big players they probably won't accept that.

I see that as a balancing effect: 1 NXT = 1 vote prevents 100mil zombie bot accounts to outvote everyone. Also, if something is better for the whole community, it is unlikely big accounts would vote against it (as they have the most to lose, they wouldn't want to hurt their investment). If the action hurts their investment, they should have a right to defend it, so that also makes sense. I think if the issue is very controversial, over time the majority of the community will eventually agree to a compromise that satisfies the majority of the users without having to cause a hard fork.

I think that while it's not ideal, there is no better solution than this currently. All other methods are vulnerable to attack and abuse. 1 NXT = 1 vote is the only way to ensure fair voting because it's guaranteed by the PoS system.

I really like the voting feature, but I do worry about exchanges that hold large sums of Nxt in escrow being able to have a heavy influence on voting subjects.

this will be irrelevant when des. exchange will work...

and pools?

[pinarello]

we could create one just for voting

[jl777]

CfB announced upcoming releases will have Account Management features, one of which allows for pooled forging

[Ebrelus]

a nice article:
A New Wave of 2nd Generation Cryptocurrencies: NXT, eMunie, SkyCoin, EarthCoin
http://alunacrypto.blogspot.cz/2013/12/a-new-wave-of-2nd-generation.html

Found some distressing news about emunie developer https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5399

Seems he is a known scammer, but it is all third hand, so best if you make your own conclusions. Seems to be very suspicious that the presale was closed based on the reason that trolls took up too much of his time. Huh?

If anybody knows of a serious competitor to NXT, please post about it. Need to know what the competition is up to. At this point, I am putting emunie in the potential competitor category. Until there is an open beta and/or open src, it could all be vaporware for all we know. Has anybody here actually used the beta of emunie?

James

I'm going to conclude that eMunie (scam or not) is toast. Dead. Not happening.
Just read Fuserleers (eMunies lead dev/creator/lord of all creation) post here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412118.0

The tl:dr version is that eMunie will not launch on schedule because fuserleer is upset by the trolls.
It's a very bad sign for eMunies credibility that one guy can derail what is potentially a massive project because he's a bit upset by criticism.
(...)

How you call in english a person who repeat anonimous accusations without checking them?

I understand that it is a real war with big money on stake but seriously how big thoughtless ignorant you should be to repeat such things? You don't get that it is attack on a real person damaging his reputation?

Here is Dan responce: http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/36-hi-im-dan/

Internet is part of ppl's real lifes. Recall it yourself next time seeing someone attacking NXT in the same nasty manner...

There is a lot of nasty attacks, blackmails on all altcoins with potential to surpass Bitcoin and change the world. There are real cyberattacks on dgex and NXT infrastructure and reputation too so you should see that this is part of something big is going on here.
 
If you want all of them to survive and be still free of take over / killing them attempts remember that we all are on the same board! And when one is attacked all of us are damaged and targeted.  
 

[Damelon]

a nice article:
A New Wave of 2nd Generation Cryptocurrencies: NXT, eMunie, SkyCoin, EarthCoin
http://alunacrypto.blogspot.cz/2013/12/a-new-wave-of-2nd-generation.html

Found some distressing news about emunie developer https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5399

Seems he is a known scammer, but it is all third hand, so best if you make your own conclusions. Seems to be very suspicious that the presale was closed based on the reason that trolls took up too much of his time. Huh?

If anybody knows of a serious competitor to NXT, please post about it. Need to know what the competition is up to. At this point, I am putting emunie in the potential competitor category. Until there is an open beta and/or open src, it could all be vaporware for all we know. Has anybody here actually used the beta of emunie?

James

I'm going to conclude that eMunie (scam or not) is toast. Dead. Not happening.
Just read Fuserleers (eMunies lead dev/creator/lord of all creation) post here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412118.0

The tl:dr version is that eMunie will not launch on schedule because fuserleer is upset by the trolls.
It's a very bad sign for eMunies credibility that one guy can derail what is potentially a massive project because he's a bit upset by criticism.
(...)

How you call in english a person who repeat anonimous accusations without checking them?

I understand that it is a real war with big money on stake but seriously how big thoughtless ignorant you should be to repeat such things? You don't get that it is attack on a real person damaging his reputation?

Here is Dan responce: http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/36-hi-im-dan/

Internet is part of ppl's real lifes. Recall it yourself next time seeing someone attacking NXT in the same nasty manner...

There is a lot of nasty attacks, blackmails on all altcoins with potential to surpass Bitcoin and change the world. There are real cyberattacks on dgex and NXT infrastructure and reputation too so you should see that this is part of something big is going on here.
 
If you want all of them to survive and be still free of take over / killing them attempts remember that we all are on the same board! And when one is attacked all of us are damaged and targeted.  
 

Can we have clear that that post is not made on behalf of Nxt?
One of the main devs of Nxt has posted most kindly about Dan more than once in this thread.
You're picking a fight in the wrong place.

[Bitventurer]

https://www.newaltex.com/ is finally taking off a bit.

this exchange has similar look as Dgex, imo , Graviton's plan B ?
EDIT: or at least same level...

Also, Nxt is being listed on the Dutch portal to Cryptsy: http://www.coinbeurs.nl/
Nxt is also being discussed on the biggest IT/Geeks site of the Netherlands Tweakers.net, but not in a good way (although some people there have stakes).

I was wondering where the boost in traffic to my site was coming from

any discussion is a good discussion , you think Bitcoin wasn’t criticised in the earliest days ?)

[Damelon]

https://www.newaltex.com/ is finally taking off a bit.

this exchange has similar look as Dgex, imo , Graviton's plan B ?
EDIT: or at least same level...

Also, Nxt is being listed on the Dutch portal to Cryptsy: http://www.coinbeurs.nl/
Nxt is also being discussed on the biggest IT/Geeks site of the Netherlands Tweakers.net, but not in a good way (although some people there have stakes).

I was wondering where the boost in traffic to my site was coming from

any discussion is a god discussion , you think Bitcoin wasn’t criticised in the earliest days ?)

First: no, just someone who first wanted the code in place and didn't put in looks first

Two, agreed. I have no worries about criticism, anyway. Mostly, it's healthy.

[jl777]

As I have been digging further, it does seem that the claims against Dan are overblown. My concerns are more that nobody is answering some pretty basic questions about EMU inflation and equilibrium management algorithms. Closed beta also is discouraging as I can't actually run it, but I have seen posts by people I know that say they have run the beta.

My current feeling is that emunie is real, but closed and sole sourced by a single guy who is overworked and overstressed. His logic of cancelling the public IPO due to trolls, just doesn't make sense to me.

In any case, emunie has no CfB so it is doomed

James

[pinarello]

As I have been digging further, it does seem that the claims against Dan are overblown. My concerns are more that nobody is answering some pretty basic questions about EMU inflation and equilibrium management algorithms. Closed beta also is discouraging as I can't actually run it, but I have seen posts by people I know that say they have run the beta.

My current feeling is that emunie is real, but closed and sole sourced by a single guy who is overworked and overstressed. His logic of cancelling the public IPO due to trolls, just doesn't make sense to me.

In any case, emunie has no CfB so it is doomed

James

I have bin beta tester from day one, but not gonna talk about it

[Bitventurer]

Did anyone tried to talk with any other exchanges except btc-e and cryptsy ?  for example the ones that arent so successful , here the full list taken from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0  :

Altcoin Exchanges:

https://www.cryptsy.com/
https://btc-e.com/
https://bter.com/
https://www.deleted.com/    <<<< some one should tell this exchanger  that if he will add the pair's NXT:BTC/NXT:USD/NXT:LTC and so on , he will become rich ... forget aboout it , SMELLs scamish

https://mcxnow.com/
https://vircurex.com/
https://www.coins-e.com/
https://btcltc.com/
https://coinex.pw/
http://www.btc38.com/  

EDIT: link deleted , because SCAMish  smell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390781.0

[punkrock]

how on earth did 12968364353024827435 forge 2 blocks in a row? 22227 and 22228?


ETA:  its happening more too, same people are forgig multipl lbloks!!!

Make sure u r on the longest chain.

Block 22280 / id 8090486594182240851 is the longest I see atm. Use https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67242472/nxtfiles.zip if u on other branch.

Interesting that the account number 12968364353024827435 sent 100,000 NXT to the account 100000. He is the owner of the domain Gridcoinnetwork.org.
I would like to know if he knows the password for the ID 100000 or did he sent it as a gift for the one who will get the account in the future. 

[grizmoblust]

does nxt handle 256 character passphase?

[opticalcarrier]

Interesting that the account number 12968364353024827435 sent 100,000 NXT to the account 100000. He is the owner of the domain Gridcoinnetwork.org.
I would like to know if he knows the password for the ID 100000 or did he sent it as a gift for the one who will get the account in the future.  

My bet is that he doesnt know the password to that one  most likely that was a typo when he sent the same amount of coins to the field used for address

does nxt handle 256 character passphase?

I believe the cutoff is 100 characters.  But I dont believe there is anything preventing the use of a wallet.dat type client with 256bit long keys

[punkrock]

Interesting that the account number 12968364353024827435 sent 100,000 NXT to the account 100000. He is the owner of the domain Gridcoinnetwork.org.
I would like to know if he knows the password for the ID 100000 or did he sent it as a gift for the one who will get the account in the future.  

My bet is that he doesnt know the password to that one  most likely that was a typo when he sent the same amount of coins to the field used for address

That would be a great fail, haha. Well, he's holding >12,000,000 NXT - I think he don't care. I tried to send him a mail, but his GMX-account isn't working anymore. My mail returns. 

[Passion_ltc]

So.. Finally..

NXTarea.com now has:

- a new category on the front for forging pools
- a blog system
- a tools section


Please try them out. Now I can finally work on my first game.

[punkrock]

@Passion_ltc: Thanks for adding our pool!

[grizmoblust]

does nxt handle 256 character passphase?

I believe the cutoff is 100 characters.  But I dont believe there is anything preventing the use of a wallet.dat type client with 256bit long keys

WTF....  So I could access people's wallet easily anywhere in the world with brute attacks.  Type password, "horsecock111"  Oh look, I found 100,000nxt. Cool!


BCnext, please support 256 characters for security reasons.

[salsacz]

hi page 900

to celebrate it I filled the original post - Nxt marketing & promotion - progress tracking thread - by new articles, videos, books and some other little things. Just watch the topic :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.msg4465984#msg4465984

[msin]

I say 3 days until we reach 1000 posts, Arbitrary Messaging will garner a lot of attention and posts in the next two days.