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January 13, 2014, 05:40:03 PM
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who will do it ?
Andreas M. Antonopoulos  ( http://antonopoulos.com/ ) Huh
Community should find someone with a master degree in Cryptography.
that is him...
His many expertise include Bitcoin, crypto-currencies, Information Security, Cryptography, Cloud Computing, Data Centers, Linux, Open Source and robotics software development. He also has been CISSP certified for 12 years.

He is the dude.
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January 13, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
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CFB don't want to spread a fear or panic in market, he'll sell everything in steps, until 50000 block Smiley


What happens after 50,000blocks?






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January 13, 2014, 05:47:26 PM
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CFB don't want to spread a fear or panic in market, he'll sell everything in steps, until 50000 block Smiley


What happens after 50,000blocks?

And this is why making this kind of jokes are not a good idea...
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January 13, 2014, 05:47:55 PM
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And this is why making this kind of jokes is not a good idea...

for real..
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January 13, 2014, 05:48:26 PM
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who will do it ?

Andreas M. Antonopoulos  ( http://antonopoulos.com/ ) Huh

Community should find someone with a master degree in Cryptography.

that is him...

His many expertise include Bitcoin, crypto-currencies, Information Security, Cryptography, Cloud Computing, Data Centers, Linux, Open Source and robotics software development. He also has been CISSP certified for 12 years.


Now come back to the relevant topic.

Antonopoulos is a great popularizer but I don't think he has an academic credential. I would suggest Emin Gün Sirer (or Ittay Eyal ) at hacking distributed
http://hackingdistributed.com/

He is a professor in Cornell and he has been working with Bitcoin algorithm for quite sometimes. He also wrote a paper on Bitcoin selfish mining and he will work for a bounty as he did with bitcoin. As long as he like NXT algorithm, I think we are as good as gold.

Luc should contact him for an independent review.


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January 13, 2014, 05:49:10 PM
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who will do it ?
Andreas M. Antonopoulos  ( http://antonopoulos.com/ ) Huh
Community should find someone with a master degree in Cryptography.
that is him...
His many expertise include Bitcoin, crypto-currencies, Information Security, Cryptography, Cloud Computing, Data Centers, Linux, Open Source and robotics software development. He also has been CISSP certified for 12 years.

He is the dude.
<3 <3 <3

Indeed. Had forgotten about M. Antonopoulos. If he would agree to make the independent review, his research results would be trusted by the BTC community, though he's very busy expert.
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January 13, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
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What is the right word? I am trying to balance technical accuracy with conveying the appropriate concept to the reader.

I think "fee dividend" is probably about the best one (it conveys the idea that you get something because of your investment without the idea that that something "comes from nothing").


Yes, that is pretty good. Also due to the variability each person gets a different rate, easier to understand the rate difference if it is a dividend (which is expected to vary) as opposed to interest (which is expected to be stable)

My issue with using the term "interest" stems mainly from the fact that the paragraph starts out talking about bitcoin, and how it doesnt have interest, and how NXT does.  but really its possible to mine for transaction fees in bitcoin.

I think one thing the whitepaper doesnt touch on and which may be appropriate for this particular section we are discussing is how with NX, your balance is what mines for you, not ASICS. (since you are discussing deficiencies of bitcoin)

Feel free to swipe some more material on the article that I wrote for bitcoinmagazine that still hasnt been published. https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?style=1&f=2&t=276


And Ive created a wiki board in forums.nxtcryto.org and also put a post in there for us to offload whitepaper discussion from this thread
https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?style=1&f=55&t=564
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January 13, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
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who will do it ?
Andreas M. Antonopoulos  ( http://antonopoulos.com/ ) Huh
Community should find someone with a master degree in Cryptography.
that is him...
His many expertise include Bitcoin, crypto-currencies, Information Security, Cryptography, Cloud Computing, Data Centers, Linux, Open Source and robotics software development. He also has been CISSP certified for 12 years.

He is the dude.
<3 <3 <3

Indeed. Had forgotten about M. Antonopoulos. If he would agree to make the independent review, his research results would be trusted by the BTC community, though he's very busy expert.

Disagree. Antonopoulos is a popularizer  not a hard-core cryptographer or mathematician. He made a name with Bitcoin and has a vested interest with Bitcoin. I can not expect him to be an independent reviewer at all. It is like asking keiser to testify on monetary policy. Nothing good will come.


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January 13, 2014, 06:00:29 PM
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Don't sell NXTs so cheap and in big amounts because you only help speculators kill Nxt rate on DGEX. Seriously, not when bitcoin is falling. This is the best way to damage community because noone will invest in it since rate can't recover. Even big stock holders aren't damaging it so much like you this way. I don't see any strategy here no HOLD action to help Nxt rate and create demand boosting community growth. When someone leaves dgex he want go back soon. Even if someone don't like dgex it will still affect price of Nxt on any other exchange in future. Kill it and u'll kill Nxt.
If community can break only because there's no "to da moon!" action... Do we really need such kind of "community"?

I agree. My new policy is to add anyone complaining about short term price movements, or market manipulation to my ignore list. I encourage others to do the same.

NXT will succeed because of its features and applications that take advantage of them, not because of price stability in the first 4 months of its existence.
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January 13, 2014, 06:03:45 PM
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who will do it ?
Andreas M. Antonopoulos  ( http://antonopoulos.com/ ) Huh
Community should find someone with a master degree in Cryptography.
that is him...
His many expertise include Bitcoin, crypto-currencies, Information Security, Cryptography, Cloud Computing, Data Centers, Linux, Open Source and robotics software development. He also has been CISSP certified for 12 years.

He is the dude.
<3 <3 <3

Indeed. Had forgotten about M. Antonopoulos. If he would agree to make the independent review, his research results would be trusted by the BTC community, though he's very busy expert.

Disagree. Antonopoulos is popularizer  not a hard-core cryptographer or mathematician. He made a name with Bitcoin and has a vested interest with Bitcoin. I can not expect him to be an independent reviewer at all. It is like asking keiser to testify on monetary policy. Nothing good will come.

+1, not a good choice.  
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January 13, 2014, 06:04:17 PM
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CFB don't want to spread a fear or panic in market, he'll sell everything in steps, until 50000 block Smiley


What happens after 50,000blocks?

And this is why making this kind of jokes are not a good idea...

Cool down and relax Smiley
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January 13, 2014, 06:04:40 PM
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January 13, 2014, 06:04:59 PM
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so did anyone contacted vircurex ?  https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2921.0.html

" If one of our core developers dropped an email and offered assistance, I believe that would go a long way. Since NXT is so different, I'm sure most of the exchanges are waiting for one of similar size to implement it.  "

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January 13, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
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Is anyone going to become an NXT/fiat gateway when Asset Exchange is launched? I know about only 1 such case.

We are working on putting a very simple broker type of service were people can buy NXT with EUR.
It will be very very simple and the sole purpose of it is going to be just give "easier" way of buying NXT without going through the hassle of getting btc and then converting.
I hope we will be ready in 1-2 weeks.

I am interested in working on such a service, I'm not a programmer, but I am based in NYC, so I could be of use on the physical end.

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so did anyone contacted vircurex ?  https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2921.0.html

" If one of our core developers dropped an email and offered assistance, I believe that would go a long way. Since NXT is so different, I'm sure most of the exchanges are waiting for one of similar size to implement it.  "
+1 it will not only make alternative exchange but also gain some more new users through exchanges
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January 13, 2014, 06:11:36 PM
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Disagree. Antonopoulos is a popularizer  not a hard-core cryptographer or mathematician. He made a name with Bitcoin and has a vested interest with Bitcoin. I can not expect him to be an independent reviewer at all. It is like asking keiser to testify on monetary policy. Nothing good will come.

Do not know about his education, I somehow had impression he is cryptographer and security expert, but oddly in many videos he admits his realtime maths are poor.
But I really doubt his vested interest would affect his conclusions. I feel he is a man of honour.
So, if he is not cryptographer, he should not be asked to do criptoanalysis. If he is, I think we should consider him.

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January 13, 2014, 06:15:09 PM
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Is CfB still selling NXT?
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Disagree. Antonopoulos is a popularizer  not a hard-core cryptographer or mathematician. He made a name with Bitcoin and has a vested interest with Bitcoin. I can not expect him to be an independent reviewer at all. It is like asking keiser to testify on monetary policy. Nothing good will come.

Do not know about his education, I somehow had impression he is cryptographer and security expert, but oddly in many videos he admits his realtime maths are poor.
But I really doubt his vested interest would affect his conclusions. I feel he is a man of honour.
So, if he is not cryptographer, he should not be asked to do criptoanalysis. If he is, I think we should consider him.



We need someone with academic credentials. I don't think Antonopoulos would qualify. I don't know enough about Antonopoulos to say anything about his character. He is great at letting people know about bitcoin and decentralized network, but it is the fact that he has a huge interest in Bitcoin's success. By that alone, it does not pass the test of being an independent reviewer.


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January 13, 2014, 06:16:52 PM
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Don't sell NXTs so cheap and in big amounts because you only help speculators kill Nxt rate on DGEX. Seriously, not when bitcoin is falling. This is the best way to damage community because noone will invest in it since rate can't recover. Even big stock holders aren't damaging it so much like you this way. I don't see any strategy here no HOLD action to help Nxt rate and create demand boosting community growth. When someone leaves dgex he want go back soon. Even if someone don't like dgex it will still affect price of Nxt on any other exchange in future. Kill it and u'll kill Nxt.
If community can break only because there's no "to da moon!" action... Do we really need such kind of "community"?

I agree. My new policy is to add anyone complaining about short term price movements, or market manipulation to my ignore list. I encourage others to do the same.

NXT will succeed because of its features and applications that take advantage of them, not because of price stability in the first 4 months of its existence.

+1 to IveBeenBit.

To Ebrelus et al.....CfB is only selling off 10 BTC worth of unclaimed NXT to finance a bounty for an external audit.
He's selling @ 95% of DGEX price, to people who are serious about NXT and are happy to get a small discount.
Wish I had some BTC available, but i'm Mr Skint, dammit.

Stop the panic......

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January 13, 2014, 06:19:49 PM
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I understand correctly that the public key can not be used to encrypt messages, and private - to decrypt?
And i must use another channel for deliver key(s) for message encryption/decryption?



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