NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[admiral.fu]

Is anyone going to become an NXT/fiat gateway when Asset Exchange is launched? I know about only 1 such case.

We are working on putting a very simple broker type of service were people can buy NXT with EUR.
It will be very very simple and the sole purpose of it is going to be just give "easier" way of buying NXT without going through the hassle of getting btc and then converting.
I hope we will be ready in 1-2 weeks.

I am interested in working on such a service, I'm not a programmer, but I am based in NYC, so I could be of use on the physical end.

Legally it is very convenient to open such service in Belgium or Denmark. In Sweden licensing would cost around 300K EUR, but also possible.
BTC-E operates with accounts in Czech republic, if I remember correctly.

[utopianfuture]

Disagree. Antonopoulos is a popularizer  not a hard-core cryptographer or mathematician. He made a name with Bitcoin and has a vested interest with Bitcoin. I can not expect him to be an independent reviewer at all. It is like asking keiser to testify on monetary policy. Nothing good will come.

Do not know about his education, I somehow had impression he is cryptographer and security expert, but oddly in many videos he admits his realtime maths are poor.
But I really doubt his vested interest would affect his conclusions. I feel he is a man of honour.
So, if he is not cryptographer, he should not be asked to do criptoanalysis. If he is, I think we should consider him.

We need someone with academic credentials. I don't think Antonopoulos would qualify. I don't know enough about Antonopoulos to say anything about his character. He is great at letting people know about bitcoin and decentralized network, but it is the fact that he has a huge interest in Bitcoin's success. By that alone, it does not pass the test of being an independent reviewer.

Al right so far for an independent review of NXT algorithm, we have some suggestions

1. Andrea Antonopoulos
2. I suggest Emin Gün Sirer at Hacking Distributed http://hackingdistributed.com/
3. Another great suggestion by msin is Steve Weis http://saweis.net/

It is better to contact several of them to see who is interested. Name it if someone has another suggestion. Cfb and Luc are you going to contact them ? Also what kind of review do you have in mind ?

 

[salsacz]

Is CfB still selling NXT?

yes, CfB still sells 1.5 Btc

[gobpaul]

Just a little rant on cryptsy ive started feel free to add your opinions.
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/64175

Why we have to be like begging Cryptsy ,its their wish whether they will take nxt or not,NXT will still survive Without Cryptsy .

[EmoneyRu]

Is CfB still selling NXT?

yes, CfB still sells 1.5 Btc

Even he don't believe in Nxt! Panic sell!

[salsacz]

what about Meni Rosenfeld?

[salsacz]

Just a little rant on cryptsy ive started feel free to add your opinions.
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/64175

Why we have to be like begging Cryptsy ,its their wish whether they will take nxt or not,NXT will still survive Without Cryptsy .

Cryptsy didn't help to Earthcoin, the value didn't get up

[pinarello]

Just a little rant on cryptsy ive started feel free to add your opinions.
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/64175

Why we have to be like begging Cryptsy ,its their wish whether they will take nxt or not,NXT will still survive Without Cryptsy .

+1 even when cryptsy is long gone (which could be pretty soon)

[opticalcarrier]

Al right so far for an independent review of NXT algorithm, we have some suggestions

1. Andrea Antonopoulos
2. I suggest Emin Gün Sirer at Hacking Distributed http://hackingdistributed.com/
3. Another great suggestion by msin is Steve Weis http://saweis.net/

It is better to contact several of them to see who is interested. Name it if someone has another suggestion. Cfb and Luc are you going to contact them ? Also what kind of review do you have in mind ?

How about those guys from Cornell that published their paper on the 25%/33% selfish-mining "feature" of gaming bitcoin blocks?

[Damelon]

Did anyone tried to talk with any other exchanges except btc-e and cryptsy ?  for example the ones that arent so successful , here the full list taken from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0  :

Altcoin Exchanges:

https://www.cryptsy.com/
https://btc-e.com/
https://bter.com/
https://www.deleted.com/    <<<< some one should tell this exchanger  that if he will add the pair's NXT:BTC/NXT:USD/NXT:LTC and so on , he will become rich ... forget aboout it , SMELLs scamish

https://mcxnow.com/
https://vircurex.com/
https://www.coins-e.com/
https://btcltc.com/
https://coinex.pw/
http://www.btc38.com/  

EDIT: link deleted , because SCAMish  smell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390781.0

Much more exchanges possible than Cryptsy. Maybe we should focus somewhere else? Anyone know which would fit Nxt best at this moment?

[utopianfuture]

Al right so far for an independent review of NXT algorithm, we have some suggestions

1. Andrea Antonopoulos
2. I suggest Emin Gün Sirer at Hacking Distributed http://hackingdistributed.com/
3. Another great suggestion by msin is Steve Weis http://saweis.net/

It is better to contact several of them to see who is interested. Name it if someone has another suggestion. Cfb and Luc are you going to contact them ? Also what kind of review do you have in mind ?

How about those guys from Cornell that published their paper on the 25%/33% selfish-mining "feature" of gaming bitcoin blocks?

That's him Emin gun sirer and his students.

[superresistant]

Just a little rant on cryptsy ive started feel free to add your opinions.
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/64175

Why we have to be like begging Cryptsy ,its their wish whether they will take nxt or not,NXT will still survive Without Cryptsy .

Cryptsy didn't help to Earthcoin, the value didn't get up

Because Earthcoin is just an other crap-copy-coin among hundred.
People are just interested into mining and dumping it.

The more we talk about NXT, the bigger the adoption is. Pushing it to trading exchanges will help. A lot of people aren't on this forum but only daily trading on exchange and chatting on trollbox.

[newsilike]

@CfB
Sent 0.989 from 12QNfMZfPzPssjBGJnzV9FuK96UW11PFUC
You can send the NXT to 12236301388562271000

~0.6 btc investment left

[jl777]

For those who care, I think I finally figured out how emunie is supposed to work. Basically, as money comes in more emunies are created. The system is going to try to stabilize the price, so let's assume it is successful and it holds the price steady. Don't remind me that no government has ever been able to fight the market forces and hold a price steady.

To estimate your gain from investing in emunie, take the total amount of emunie money supply from when you purchase to when you sell. You get 50% of the change in money supply. So, if the initial distribution is for $1 million worth and another $5 million comes in, you will get 2.5 times your investment.

So, the more widely the initial emunie is distributed, the less will be gained by initial investors. I have not yet figured out anything about the hatching process or what sort of incubation equipment is needed, but it seems that the hatchers make as much money as the initial investors.

The biggest open questions are how exactly is the emunie money supply managed. Everything about emunie depends on this and it is kept tightly secret so no way of creating models or doing any sort of analysis. If it all magically works, I would be amazed. Not impossible, but still many unanswered questions.

James

[Bitventurer]

  

  NXTCHANGE.COM  - this domain is for sale , make your offers in this topic, will accept NXT;XBT;LTC;NMC

[Silv0r]

Bitcoin.de is working on a "multicoin" trading system. At this moment they only accept BTC transfers but I think it would be a good suggestion for them to accept NXT. I hope they don't try to trade with all these annoying fake Altcoins like DOGE, Kanye, ..  

Is it hard to bring a own trading page for NXT / EUR / USD on the web? Are there complex restrictions?

[pinarello]

Did anyone tried to talk with any other exchanges except btc-e and cryptsy ?  for example the ones that arent so successful , here the full list taken from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0  :

Altcoin Exchanges:

https://www.cryptsy.com/
https://btc-e.com/
https://bter.com/
https://www.deleted.com/    <<<< some one should tell this exchanger  that if he will add the pair's NXT:BTC/NXT:USD/NXT:LTC and so on , he will become rich ... forget aboout it , SMELLs scamish

https://mcxnow.com/
https://vircurex.com/
https://www.coins-e.com/
https://btcltc.com/
https://coinex.pw/
http://www.btc38.com/  

EDIT: link deleted , because SCAMish  smell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390781.0

Much more exchanges possible than Cryptsy. Maybe we should focus somewhere else? Anyone know which would fit Nxt best at this moment?

I think the problem is that they are used to work with wallets, NXT is something new they dont know.

[timmyd]

Just a little rant on cryptsy ive started feel free to add your opinions.
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/64175

Why we have to be like begging Cryptsy ,its their wish whether they will take nxt or not,NXT will still survive Without Cryptsy .

I was very careful not mention Nxt at all. Just a push to add 2nd gen crypto. I cant help the commenters responding with add nxt.
Do u not feel that every time cryptsy adds yet another pump and forget coin it damages the whole crypto image and loses abit of seriousness? I mean im here for a new world really im here for monetary freedom and the 99%vs1%.
If shitcoin,crapcoin, or generally a buzz word coin keep appearing i feel crypto loses a little bit of the seriousness

[msin]

Disagree. Antonopoulos is a popularizer  not a hard-core cryptographer or mathematician. He made a name with Bitcoin and has a vested interest with Bitcoin. I can not expect him to be an independent reviewer at all. It is like asking keiser to testify on monetary policy. Nothing good will come.

Do not know about his education, I somehow had impression he is cryptographer and security expert, but oddly in many videos he admits his realtime maths are poor.
But I really doubt his vested interest would affect his conclusions. I feel he is a man of honour.
So, if he is not cryptographer, he should not be asked to do criptoanalysis. If he is, I think we should consider him.

We need someone with academic credentials. I don't think Antonopoulos would qualify. I don't know enough about Antonopoulos to say anything about his character. He is great at letting people know about bitcoin and decentralized network, but it is the fact that he has a huge interest in Bitcoin's success. By that alone, it does not pass the test of being an independent reviewer.

Al right so far for an independent review of NXT algorithm, we have some suggestions

1. Andrea Antonopoulos
2. I suggest Emin Gün Sirer at Hacking Distributed http://hackingdistributed.com/
3. Another great suggestion by msin is Steve Weis http://saweis.net/

It is better to contact several of them to see who is interested. Name it if someone has another suggestion. Cfb and Luc are you going to contact them ? Also what kind of review do you have in mind ?

 

I've reached out to Steve, he's a busy guy, but I'll let you know if/when I hear back.

[Chang Hum]

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2921.0.html

Are any Dev's going to work with Vircurex on this? seems pretty important such a large exchange are asking for help implementing it on their exchange.