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January 19, 2014, 03:51:34 AM
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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

 
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did you use any additional program? non official client? ballancer?
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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

So..it has come to this.   ( http://xkcd.com/1022/ )

If NXT does not insure user security with extreme measures, we are going to get our reputation killed while somebody else does.
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January 19, 2014, 03:55:38 AM
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did you use any additional program? non official client? ballancer?

well, i used the 2 Java vanity files posted in this thread. But that was days ago.

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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

And so it begins.


not a bad idea. zero cost buy in is smart. lets see where it goes. the more competition the better.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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January 19, 2014, 04:00:31 AM
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did you use any additional program? non official client? ballancer?

well, i used the 2 Java vanity files posted in this thread. But that was days ago.
so we could ask nxtuser
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4284954#msg4284954
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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

Don't forget about ME.TOO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422139.0 and NEM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0 as well Smiley

Let's see how a "Free" crypto (initially) develops to one that has value(if any of these actually release that is...)  Smiley
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January 19, 2014, 04:02:20 AM
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(building DNAs in c/c++ is dangerous, you can't sandboxing this. at least with a granularity nessesary.
interpreted, prototype and self reflectional languages are much better for this, they are also widely used
within academic ai research and there are several good reason for this.)

I'm looking at javascript, lua, and scala. Instead of embedding code in the blockchain, it might be interesting to store a reference to code and some kind of SHA.

edit: have seen you are thinking about referencing to outside code, e.g. hosted on a webserver. yes, this is another solution but not decentralized and therefore
not optimal and we couldn't say to the press nxt has launched the first and only real DNA in cryptocountry, living completly within the blockchain and doing a usefull
job for the users. sure, it is difficult pressing advanced stuff, optimal with choosable gui capabilities, into the tiny 1kb AM limit but it would be great if we could.


The code wouldn't be any less decentralized than NRS itself. Something has to read the code from the blockchain and execute. That code would provide a context for the blockchain embedded code. It could be distributed p2p just like NRS could be.

The problem as you mentioned is the serialization of functions/closures. There's a interesting idea presented for inclusion in Scala called Spores to handle serialization of closures. The very cool thing about Scala is that it runs in the JVM so it can drop right into the existing NRS as NRS plugin (servlet in nxt/webapps).

Javascript would be interesting with something like Rhino embedded in a NRS plugin. Msgpack would squeeze a bit more out of the 1K for AM. It would be possible to write a DSL that would stuff even more functionality into an AM.

I'm not sure why folks are so hung up on c/c++. The choice of Java (and indirectly the JVM) opens some very interesting possibilities. I've been thinking a lot about what an implementation NXT in Scala with Akka would look like and steal some ideas from Spark. The amazing part is to just extract the algorithmic stuff (BCNext secret sauce) into a standalone Java class then import that into a new environment to handle the networking/protocol piece and provide a framework for extending NXT directly by writing plugins that run on the JVM.

If we could formalize NXT as a platform by providing a framework for developers to extend the NXT blockchain in a standard, predictable manner then things will be very interesting very quickly.


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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

Don't forget about ME TOO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422139.0 and NEM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0 as well Smiley

Let's see how a "Free" crypto (initially) develops to one that has worth   Smiley

all this is going to mean is that scammers and give away thread spammers will be the power houses of this new currency. rather than people who actually payed for its development.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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interesting. Why were all wastedbit's posts deleted?
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January 19, 2014, 04:07:32 AM
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interesting. Why were all wastedbit's posts deleted?

omg i hope i didnt loose my coins because i wanted a pretty address, i feel so stupid.

Would it help if I posted the files?

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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

Don't forget about ME TOO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422139.0 and NEM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0 as well Smiley

Let's see how a "Free" crypto (initially) develops to one that has worth   Smiley

all this is going to mean is that scammers and give away thread spammers will be the power houses of this new currency. rather than people who actually payed for its development.

I already claimed 100% of ME.TOO.
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interesting. Why were all wastedbit's posts deleted?

omg i hope i didnt loose my coins because i wanted a pretty address, i feel so stupid.

Would it help if I posted the files?
try again browser history. Googlecache shows only previous page it seems
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so i guess this means that all of the flaws were found and nxt is officially open source software?

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I post on page 1000 from dairy queen, go back to the hotel, get up at zero dark thirty to go to the airport and spend the day in threee different jets getting home, check this thread, and 55 pages later everything is total bat crap crazy.  

Hell yeah on getting listed at last on a first tier exchange and a 100 % price rise.  

But this latest "somebody got my NXT" has pegged my paranoia needle again.  As far as I am concerned we have yet to get to the bottom of a single incident here even tho we tarred and feathered EpicThomas.  Something is STILL going on and it is bad.

I will say this again and again until I get Dev concurrence.  WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT AN OPTION TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT FREEZE CODE BLOCKING OUTGOING NXT TRANSFERS THAT GETS CARRIED ALONG IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AS A MESSAGE UNTIL RESCENDED BY THE ACCOUNT OWNER VIA A SECOND DIFFERENT PASSWORD.

More later I gotta unpack and get caught up at home after being gone two weeks.  GO NXT!!!

Consider NEX  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

Don't forget about ME TOO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422139.0 and NEM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0 as well Smiley

Let's see how a "Free" crypto (initially) develops to one that has worth   Smiley

all this is going to mean is that scammers and give away thread spammers will be the power houses of this new currency. rather than people who actually payed for its development.

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any more bat crap crazy, the thread proves me wrong.  Good night all.
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so i guess this means that all of the flaws were found and nxt is officially open source software?

3rd flaw worth 100K still not found, but you are probably making a joke I don't understand

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so i guess this means that all of the flaws were found and nxt is officially open source software?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.1080

nope.. but fatal flaw is only in 4.7 code?   not sure about current code decompiled.

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interesting. Why were all wastedbit's posts deleted?

omg i hope i didnt loose my coins because i wanted a pretty address, i feel so stupid.

Would it help if I posted the files?

From my point of view - wastedbit looks innocent, who knows, why he or some MOD deleted his posts. But this looks dangerous:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=170751;sa=showPosts

please tech guys, could you check megaupload links from this newbie - nxtuser??

others: do not download nxtuser's links. Safety first
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I'm not sure why folks are so hung up on c/c++. The choice of Java (and indirectly the JVM) opens some very interesting possibilities. I've been thinking a lot about what an implementation NXT in Scala with Akka would look like and steal some ideas from Spark. The amazing part is to just extract the algorithmic stuff (BCNext secret sauce) into a standalone Java class then import that into a new environment to handle the networking/protocol piece and provide a framework for extending NXT directly by writing plugins that run on the JVM.


Consider NEX - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052

NXT implemented on top of Akka.

 
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Who is FrictionlessCoin, and why does he make everyone's hackles go up?

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