NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[bitcoinpaul]

I did notice it, but I don't decide this question. The community does.

What is your opinion on that?

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[EvilDave]

Salsa, Pin, could u both stop these insults?

+ 10

We are all on the same side.

I think that one of the problems here is that people are very willing to talk the talk, but not so quick to get off their asses and walk the walk.

We need people for Berlin, now.

So, if anyone can commit to helping on the Berlin conference, get in touch, form a working group and start making some decisions.....
Even if u get it slightly wrong, it's better than missing the opportunity.

[fmiboy]

<SOM> UPDATE: clienxt

Changelog: 0.0.3 [codename] mass effect

* status bar icons (active peers, latest block)
* preferences, settings default values
* fix various bugs in transactions list, messages list, alias list, account list.
* Introducing BULK send (nxt, messages, nxt with attached msg)

Usage: [same as before]
Unzip, download Nxt core http://info.nxtcrypto.org and unzip.
place "nxt" (NRS) folder inside "lib" folder (ClieNxt) and double click "ClieNxt.jar"

Automatically connects to the server, all outputs can be seen on console window after Send operations.

Screenshots:
sending bulk nxt to multiple accounts (separator ":" and end with ":")
possible to attach msg to each recipient also separator ":" and end with ":" after each msg.



sending bulk msg to multiple accounts (separator ":" and end with ":")



account checking before sending (balance>0, isexist(public key))




Download: https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/downloads/clienxt_003.zip

Report bugs: https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/issues?status=new&status=open and "Create issue" (really need feedback/bug reports from cross platforms (Mac, Linux))

Developers, Translators, Donators are very welcome to contribute, any help is very much appreciated.

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[Come-from-Beyond]

I did notice it, but I don't decide this question. The community does.

What is your opinion on that?

I think it's a bad approach. We should rely on protocol version.

[salsacz]

So, if anyone can commit to helping on the Berlin conference, get in touch, form a working group and start making some decisions.....

It's right here, since December 27:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1518.0.html

[pinarello]

can somebody ask salsacz about this transaction (donation) to marketing account 2037401990853753795 and why it is not in the books(gdoc)?

also why is the donation from admiral fu in the gdoc, but not in the account?

2537603335500006326   100,000   2   2502332986534916241   5696463729734839493

he has me on ignore.

thank you Pin

[mezzovide]

Hi, just a little suggestion, could we use something other than BTT (like new Nxt subreddit /r/nxt) to post whatever idea, polling, etc.

I still dont understand why u guys still post it either in this 1000+ post thread or create another thread in this clusterf*ck BTT announcement section. It gives me headache everytime i need to look for something related to Nxt. At least, made a copy/mirror whatever topics to another place that dedicated to this project. That would be very great for noobs to look for any information regarding Nxt.

We're so decentralized, yet we still use just one thread to post everything.  

[Come-from-Beyond]

BTER doesn't bother with forging even having 36M...

[bitcoinpaul]

can somebody ask salsacz about this transaction (donation) to marketing account 2037401990853753795 and why it is not in the books(gdoc)?

also why is the donation from admiral fu in the gdoc, but not in the account?

2537603335500006326   100,000   2   2502332986534916241   5696463729734839493

he has me on ignore.

thank you Pin

[ChuckOne]

Actually using ZLIB might not be the best idea, better would be something that's faster.
I'd go with LZ4. There's also lzturbo, but, lz4 has format that might be nicer for "small devices" (raspis & Co.)

And ChuckOne is right, binary protocol equals problems

Compression looks like a premature optimization to me. Let's make things more complicated when we actually need it.

Isn't maintaining two protocols making things more complicated?

Using a binary protocol looks to me like a premature optimization because you sacrifice all the advantages of a text-based protocol and buy in pitfalls. Just because you want to have more TPS although the current way is much faster than Bitcoin itself.


Anyway, I think you have heard the opinions from some guys that are from the industry knowing the problems with binary protocols.

How you are going to appreciate that experience remains to be seen. Regardless which way you decide, please always choose the most secure one. And remember: nobody's perfect, especially not programmers.

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[pinarello]

Salsa, Pin, could u both stop these insults?

ok

[pinarello]

AM contest vote!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444081.0

[bitcoinpaul]

@ salsacz or anybody who has an overview:

Do we need money for the next conferences and until now, we don't have it?

[ImmortAlex]

Using a binary protocol looks to me like a premature optimization because you sacrifice all the advantages of a text-based protocol and buy in pitfalls. Just because you want to have more TPS although the current way is much faster than Bitcoin itself.

Half of the protocol is binary already. Transactions are converted to byte array, then byte array converted to hex string, then that string is passed to JSON. Most part of data is byte arrays anyway: hashes, signatures... AMs is byte arrays completely. JSON is just overload, IMHO.

[nexern]

<SOM> UPDATE: clienxt

Changelog: 0.0.3 [codename] mass effect

* status bar icons (active peers, latest block)
* preferences, settings default values
* fix various bugs in transactions list, messages list, alias list, account list.
* Introducing BULK send (nxt, messages, nxt with attached msg)

Usage: [same as before]
Unzip, download Nxt core http://info.nxtcrypto.org and unzip.
place "nxt" (NRS) folder inside "lib" folder (ClieNxt) and double click "ClieNxt.jar"

Automatically connects to the server, all outputs can be seen on console window after Send operations.

Screenshots:
sending bulk nxt to multiple accounts (separator ":" and end with ":")
possible to attach msg to each recipient also separator ":" and end with ":" after each msg.



sending bulk msg to multiple accounts (separator ":" and end with ":")



account checking before sending (balance>0, isexist(public key))




Download: https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/downloads/clienxt_003.zip

Report bugs: https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/issues?status=new&status=open and "Create issue" (really need feedback/bug reports from cross platforms (Mac, Linux))

Developers, Translators, Donators are very welcome to contribute, any help is very much appreciated.

<EOM>

hey fmiboy, this is looking great. very nice and lean gui. the multisend is a very good idea also.
i am adding soon a info section to the blockexplorer at the start page (next to the logo)
to provide a central and complete overview about all available clients with screen shots and a
feature matrix. users can choose and download the optimal client for thier needs there.
the blockexplorer is a very good page for this due to it's traffic and usage target.
if ok with you i would like to include mass effect there.

[ImmortAlex]

this is looking great. very nice and lean gui.

First time ever I see someone who say good words about pure Java Swing GUI
The first thing every Swing developer do when starting new project, is changing Look&Feel to something "better".

fmiboy, please stay it as it is, I like it too.

[Coinonaer]

Salsa, Pin, could u both stop these insults?

ok

I agree here. I like you and you have done a lot. But Salsa as well, he was even very active with marketing things, that did not cost any money. Like contacting the biggest german altcoinblog, if they will bring something. And they did, for free. 0 Nxt spent but big return in the german community.

So no reason at all to blame Salsa here, he have done a great job for Nxt -> as you did.  

[Bitventurer]

Could someone contact with bter to add NXT/LTC trading?

i did already , asked them to add nxt/ltc , nxt/ppc nxt/xpm

[salsacz]

@ salsacz or anybody who has an overview:

Do we need money for the next conferences and until now, we don't have it?

There is this list, it is only a guess, but could be +- fine:

Conference fund for year 2014:

Looking for 210.000 Nxt + 20.000 Nxt for each booth

More Nxt = more materials for booths

NxtMarketing acc:
2037401990853753795

All payments and donations are transparent (we accept anonymous donators too):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=15

Miami:
   - Spent $ 800 and ticket for Nifty, supported by Nifty + Justa (maybe we should pay Nifty at least 10.000 nxt)

Berlin
tickets:
- 100 Euro
McJavar - funded 15,304 NXT (http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=11433600460445633305)
- l8orre - local (= ticket only)
- admiral.fu ("My main interest to be there is BTC"), 1) designing/printing 10 T-shirts for me and other nexters
- Bitventurer - from Hamburg
- Salsacz  - from South Bohemia
- narknark (?) - from Hamburg

= ?x (3000 Nxt) + 1-?x travel+hotel (1-4000 Nxt) = 10-30.000 Nxt

Texas:
Tickets:
1x $275 (maybe a discount for speaker) =  0-5.000 NXT
 rickyjames (SPEAKER?) - $614.92 for hotel etc = 12.000 Nxt
- Asian Prepper
- Leon Fu

Current cost: 27.000 NXT

New York (April 7/8)
- jefdiesel=brooklynbtc
Networking Pass = $10

Total cost 5.000 nxt

Toronto (April 11/13)
- Joefox
Total cost - 1-5.000 nxt

Amsterdam (May)
- cryptocoinNL
- Damelon
- Cryptomenn
- Edward Snowden (?)
- EvilDave
- titan20
- Bitventurer
- salsacz (??)
Total cost: 20-40.000 nxt

Washington (June 20/22)
tickets: till June 10th $300
Total cost: 0 nxt

Hong Kong (June 24/25)
- Allwelder
Total cost: 10.000 NXT

Melbourne (July 10/11)
Total cost: 10.000 NXT

London (September 10)
Total cost: 10-20.000 Nxt

Shanghai (September)
Total cost: 10.000 NXT

Las Vegas (October 6/7)
Total cost: 10-20.000 NXT
- opticalcarrier

+ New York - ?? - http://www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com/
- 0 Nxt (speaker fron NY) - 10.000
- ? jeffdiesel=brooklynbtc (local)

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Brochures:
5.000 Nxt+

Business Cards:
5.000 Nxt+

T-shirts:
5.000-10.000 nxt

Other items, graphics:
20.0000 Nxt

Conference fund for 2014:
= 210.000 Nxt, 250.000 would be better

If we have a booth:
+ 20.000 for each booth

NxtMarketing acc:
2037401990853753795

There is 200 Nxt especially for the conf. Other coins could be borrowed from the same acc from NxtMarketing, but it would be nice to give them back, because conferences have too high budget. There is already a loan for the radio spot (currently 250k). In past there were big discussions about funds, so I quickly published this acc, where I already had 100k before CFB's donation, so then I sent them to the different account.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=15

[xyzxyzxyz]

Are DGEX going to be lowering the fee to cashouts to your nxt account?