terglyppri
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January 15, 2019, 05:08:47 PM |
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... “In these market conditions people are not willing to invest, no matter what ICO you have. There is no way you can offer a 300 to 500 percent increase when the market is down 300 and 500 percent. People are losing anyway.” ...
Are you seriously? no market can fall by 300%. Find out the mathematical sense of {%} and how it can change in both directions. I think that she means that prices have become lower by 3-5 times. Well, of course, the market cannot fall by 300%, it is mathematically impossible
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January 15, 2019, 06:12:34 PM |
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In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.
All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole. The project must have not only a ready product but the whole ecosystem: clients, castomers, users. It must be in demand.
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Dorvei
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January 15, 2019, 06:14:25 PM |
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In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.
All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole. The project must have not only a ready product but the whole ecosystem: clients, castomers, users. It must be in demand. But to have this the product must have a lot of advertisement. But advertisement costs money that is why token sale is necessary.
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Enyanha
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January 15, 2019, 06:20:30 PM |
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... “In these market conditions people are not willing to invest, no matter what ICO you have. There is no way you can offer a 300 to 500 percent increase when the market is down 300 and 500 percent. People are losing anyway.” ...
Are you seriously? no market can fall by 300%. Find out the mathematical sense of {%} and how it can change in both directions. I think that she means that prices have become lower by 3-5 times. Well, of course, the market cannot fall by 300%, it is mathematically impossible But the people lost their money. It is a hard time for miners, hard time for ICO. People are waiting. Hope this year the situation will change.
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January 15, 2019, 07:22:22 PM |
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In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.
All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole. The project must have not only a ready product but the whole ecosystem: clients, castomers, users. It must be in demand. But to have this the product must have a lot of advertisement. But advertisement costs money that is why token sale is necessary. Advertising is a costly pleasure without it the product does not advance further. But if the idea is not demanded and not realizable, then you should not rely on customers, users, there will also be no sense from advertising.
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January 15, 2019, 08:02:09 PM |
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For adventurers and scammers enough advertising. For them it is important to have time to rise money, the rest, come what may. Therefore, neither the infrastructure, nor the users, nor the staff are important.
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January 16, 2019, 06:58:42 AM |
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... “In these market conditions people are not willing to invest, no matter what ICO you have. There is no way you can offer a 300 to 500 percent increase when the market is down 300 and 500 percent. People are losing anyway.” ...
Are you seriously? no market can fall by 300%. Find out the mathematical sense of {%} and how it can change in both directions. Man apparently just exaggerated for greater clarity. This is a cryptocurrency market and here you never know when it will rise, and when it will fall.
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January 16, 2019, 10:09:49 AM |
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It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers. [/quote] machinations, competitors, scammers !? Not a tall ! when the team announce the delay of launching and to reimbourse the people who need go out, I take the decision to leave the project (and I'm free to do it !).But mean time I discovered that our wallets are stuck or frozen ! I wonder what can we do it if the token was launched ?They asked me to send their token back to initial address , but when I tried to do this (at least 4-5 times) the network return me failed transaction ! 12 Jan 08:26-Failed to send 2..... OPEX to 0x088a3f324613d079a8b0e2dab59ed6c1d9889844-Failed-2...... OPEX got the error on 04 till 12 Jan 2019; I assuming have no fault for this failed transaction, it is just a network feedback ! But I'm keept responsible for this and get no money back ! The team is not able to solve this situation since 15 December 2018 !!! Shall I believe all kind of advertising posted each week about opterium, or not !?
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terglyppri
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January 16, 2019, 01:27:08 PM |
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It is very strange, why first invest and then demand money back. It looks like it's just the machinations of competitors or scammers.
machinations, competitors, scammers !? Not a tall ! when the team announce the delay of launching and to reimbourse the people who need go out, I take the decision to leave the project (and I'm free to do it !).But mean time I discovered that our wallets are stuck or frozen ! I wonder what can we do it if the token was launched ?They asked me to send their token back to initial address , but when I tried to do this (at least 4-5 times) the network return me failed transaction ! 12 Jan 08:26-Failed to send 2..... OPEX to 0x088a3f324613d079a8b0e2dab59ed6c1d9889844-Failed-2...... OPEXgot the error on 04 till 12 Jan 2019; I assuming have no fault for this failed transaction, it is just a network feedback ! But I'm keept responsible for this and get no money back ! The team is not able to solve this situation since 15 December 2018 !!! Shall I believe all kind of advertising posted each week about opterium, or not !? [/quote] Have you tried to send tokens to another wallet? Ie create yourself another wallet and send them there.
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January 16, 2019, 02:16:25 PM |
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In the second half of 2018 I saw a lot of projects with ready products or beta version of the products. It 2017 and fist half of 2018 the most projects was only with idea.
All these "ready products" and "beta version of the products" in the end are no different from "only with idea". This hints at the essence of the crypto market as a whole. The project must have not only a ready product but the whole ecosystem: clients, castomers, users. It must be in demand. But to have this the product must have a lot of advertisement. But advertisement costs money that is why token sale is necessary. I think that advertising for today is not as important as you think. Invest in ICO people who already know the real estate market.
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January 16, 2019, 06:07:59 PM |
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From 0x088a3f324613d079a8b0e2dab59ed6c1d9889844 address, only outgoing transactions on tokens(except service addresses). Maybe you need to send to another address? for example, 0xCba6eE74b7Ca65Bd0506cf21d62bDd7c71F86AD8. Did they give a specific address? Have you tried to send tokens to another wallet? Ie create yourself another wallet and send them there.
Do you think the smart contract is locked? Yes got from them, the address first.Regarding smart contract have no ideea. The team announce/advertise a lot of great achievments, but one simple sending is not solved from one month...!? Hard to believe this.
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January 16, 2019, 08:08:20 PM |
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Do you know that 1M receipts a year cost merchants $15,000 - $50,000?
The technical support of terminals is costly and inconvenient, wasting time and money. There’s also a very high chance that receipts in wallets and purses are covered in chemicals that could contribute to autism, reproductive impairment and obesity. Importantly, receipts increase planet pollution; some of them are not recyclable. 🌎 By incorporating Optherium in your business, you can use digital receipts to avoid all problems stated above! ____________________ 🚀🚀🚀Link to the news: https://www.facebook.com/optheriumlabspage/photos/gm.2197934583857259/368885130579000/?type=3&theater&ifg=1P.s. 🚀🚀🚀This is the official news of Optherium, published with the consent of Optherium from official facebook page of Optherium. More news about Optherium can be found here https://www.facebook.com/groups/optherium/
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lylya75
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January 16, 2019, 08:19:38 PM |
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A virtual IBAN is an IBAN (International Bank Account Number) reference issued by a bank to allow incoming payments to be rerouted to a different, physical bank account.
Virtual IBAN accounts can be used to send and receive payments worldwide, allowing businesses to extend their value chain to provide settlement services to its global customers. A virtual IBAN works exactly the same way as a regular IBAN account – once they make a payment, funds end up in the physical bank account linked to the virtual IBAN. Virtual IBAN is connected with mobile eWallet and a physical debit card, offering an unprecedented user experience, saving time and money while eliminating pesky asset management effort. ____________________ 🚀🚀🚀Link to the news: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=383260759169151&set=gm.2198520383798679&type=3&theater&ifg=1P.s. 🚀🚀🚀This is the official news of Optherium, published with the consent of Optherium from official facebook page of Optherium. More news about Optherium can be found here https://www.facebook.com/groups/optherium/
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January 17, 2019, 06:27:08 AM |
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There are many holidays and people traveling during the end of December and beginning of January. Respectfully, team members have been considerate and maintained constant contact with you from your first message. The team members have also provided you a legal contract to review and an effective solution to resolve your problem. With your cooperation, you will have your investment refund. [/quote] Problem solved ! I hope the project will be a good one....
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January 17, 2019, 06:47:06 AM |
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Do you know that 1M receipts a year cost merchants $15,000 - $50,000?
The amounts are really impressive. With the right approach, savings can be very substantial.
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January 17, 2019, 08:51:29 AM |
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There are many holidays and people traveling during the end of December and beginning of January. Respectfully, team members have been considerate and maintained constant contact with you from your first message. The team members have also provided you a legal contract to review and an effective solution to resolve your problem. With your cooperation, you will have your investment refund. [/quote] Problem solved ! I hope the project will be a good one.... [/quote] I glad that the problem solved and everything is OK. I think after such situation people will have more trust to the project.
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January 17, 2019, 04:31:04 PM |
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There are many holidays and people traveling during the end of December and beginning of January. Respectfully, team members have been considerate and maintained constant contact with you from your first message. The team members have also provided you a legal contract to review and an effective solution to resolve your problem. With your cooperation, you will have your investment refund.
Problem solved ! I hope the project will be a good one....
I am glad that the project was able to quickly respond to the desire of the investor and solve his problem, such an attitude will certainly increase the confidence of others.
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January 17, 2019, 05:00:28 PM |
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I never thought about the issue of receipts and how much it costs. Digital checks are a good solution.
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January 17, 2019, 05:35:12 PM |
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There are many holidays and people traveling during the end of December and beginning of January. Respectfully, team members have been considerate and maintained constant contact with you from your first message. The team members have also provided you a legal contract to review and an effective solution to resolve your problem. With your cooperation, you will have your investment refund. [/quote] Problem solved ! I hope the project will be a good one.... [/quote] I congratulate you. You got your money back. But it seems to me that you did it in vain as this project is very interesting and promising. Good luck to you!
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January 17, 2019, 07:17:45 PM |
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Do you know that 1M receipts a year cost merchants $15,000 - $50,000?
The technical support of terminals is costly and inconvenient, wasting time and money.
There’s also a very high chance that receipts in wallets and purses are covered in chemicals that could contribute to autism, reproductive impairment and obesity.
Importantly, receipts increase planet pollution; some of them are not recyclable. 🌎
By incorporating Optherium in your business, you can use digital receipts to avoid all problems stated above!
I never thought about the issue of receipts and how much it costs. Digital checks are a good solution. Buziness has a lot of bank costs. I hope soon blockchain techologies will use in bank sector. Ripple become more and more popular but Ripple not alone. More blockchain startups will be in bank sector more competition beter for clients.
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