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December 31, 2013, 10:14:19 AM
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Well now theyre definately enemies, if you look at the news sources, the Japanese prime minister is not welcome to enter china anymore. :/

The Japanese politicians were never welcome in China. Things will remain the same for another century or so.  Grin

The Chinese are still bitter about the Japanese war crimes in the 1930s and 1940s. Japan has never apologized for any of that.
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December 31, 2013, 08:37:30 PM
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Well now theyre definately enemies, if you look at the news sources, the Japanese prime minister is not welcome to enter china anymore. :/

The Japanese politicians were never welcome in China. Things will remain the same for another century or so.  Grin

The Chinese are still bitter about the Japanese war crimes in the 1930s and 1940s. Japan has never apologized for any of that.

How do the Chinese people feel about the millions starved during the Mao Tse-Tung period in the 1950's? I think people have a more nuanced view than treating the whole thing like some kind of football team rivalry. The governments were at war, not the people. The governments starved their people, or sold land to foreign hegemons for military bases, not the people.

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December 31, 2013, 10:50:33 PM
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Should the people o something about it, since they all own the country not just one person.
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January 01, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
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How do the Chinese people feel about the millions starved during the Mao Tse-Tung period in the 1950's? I think people have a more nuanced view than treating the whole thing like some kind of football team rivalry. The governments were at war, not the people. The governments starved their people, or sold land to foreign hegemons for military bases, not the people.

The Chinese history texts and schoolbooks don't even mention about the tens of millions of people who were killed by the communists from the 1930s to the 1950s. On the other hand, they exaggerate the Japanese atrocities. It is easier to exert control over the population by whipping up the nationalist passion, and this has been realized by the current government of China.
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How do the Chinese people feel about the millions starved during the Mao Tse-Tung period in the 1950's? I think people have a more nuanced view than treating the whole thing like some kind of football team rivalry. The governments were at war, not the people. The governments starved their people, or sold land to foreign hegemons for military bases, not the people.

The Chinese history texts and schoolbooks don't even mention about the tens of millions of people who were killed by the communists from the 1930s to the 1950s. On the other hand, they exaggerate the Japanese atrocities. It is easier to exert control over the population by whipping up the nationalist passion, and this has been realized by the current government of China.

And the Japanese schoolbooks gloss over the Japanese atrocities in WW2.
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And the Japanese schoolbooks gloss over the Japanese atrocities in WW2.

They do. As I have mentioned earlier, Japan has never apologized for the tens of millions of foreign civilians who were killed by their soldiers. The atrocities occurred not only in China, but also in South-east Asia, Philippines and Oceania.
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Who are China's allies today?
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January 02, 2014, 08:09:26 AM
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And the Japanese schoolbooks gloss over the Japanese atrocities in WW2.

I'm sure the US textbooks gloss over the american atrocities as well.

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January 02, 2014, 08:38:06 AM
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And the Japanese schoolbooks gloss over the Japanese atrocities in WW2.

I'm sure the US textbooks gloss over the american atrocities as well.

I remember the authorities ordered internment and relocation of over 100,000 people of Japanese heritage in 1942, soon after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. Do they also gloss over it in textbooks and does it count as American atrocities at all?

What about nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

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Who are China's allies today?

Anyone whom they can bribe. Examples are Sudan, Angola, Sri Lanka, Pakistan.etc
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January 02, 2014, 10:51:28 AM
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.

lol.... which type of weed are you smoking? The Japanese military is very strong and they can match the PLA in almost every single department. And in the naval sector, I think the Japanese are more powerful when compared to the Chinese. And in addition to all this, they have military support from the US.
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January 02, 2014, 12:00:00 PM
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.

lol.... which type of weed are you smoking? The Japanese military is very strong and they can match the PLA in almost every single department. And in the naval sector, I think the Japanese are more powerful when compared to the Chinese. And in addition to all this, they have military support from the US.

Smoking? Really?! Military support from the USA aside, a pair of nuclear strikes (if there is fate, then it would be that) would quickly cool down some hotheads in the Japanese military, and they would quickly become amenable and friendly towards China...

Japan is nothing without the USA behind, covering their ass from kicking

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January 02, 2014, 12:04:41 PM
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.

lol.... which type of weed are you smoking? The Japanese military is very strong and they can match the PLA in almost every single department. And in the naval sector, I think the Japanese are more powerful when compared to the Chinese. And in addition to all this, they have military support from the US.

Sativa Trainwreck, and no, Japan is small, China is bigger, they can just send them all over to invade and nothing but chinese army forces will be in Japan.
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January 02, 2014, 12:30:27 PM
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.

lol.... which type of weed are you smoking? The Japanese military is very strong and they can match the PLA in almost every single department. And in the naval sector, I think the Japanese are more powerful when compared to the Chinese. And in addition to all this, they have military support from the US.

Sativa Trainwreck, and no, Japan is small, China is bigger, they can just send them all over to invade and nothing but chinese army forces will be in Japan.

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January 02, 2014, 01:14:50 PM
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.

lol.... which type of weed are you smoking? The Japanese military is very strong and they can match the PLA in almost every single department. And in the naval sector, I think the Japanese are more powerful when compared to the Chinese. And in addition to all this, they have military support from the US.

Sativa Trainwreck, and no, Japan is small, China is bigger, they can just send them all over to invade and nothing but chinese army forces will be in Japan.

LOOOL
Do you guys still live in the dark ages?
Numbers alone don't matter anymore , it's technology.
And the jsdf is fair superior to china and their rusted Russian bathtub.

Yeah, numbers don't matter anymore, unless these are nuclear warheads. Who is living in the dark ages really?

Do you actually think that an authority which didn't care a damn thing about starving to death a few tens of millions of their own population would care much more about wiping off any number of people they consider between themselves as their worst enemies?

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January 02, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
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China will defeat Japan easily, but though we will have to go to war with them as we also are their allies.

lol.... which type of weed are you smoking? The Japanese military is very strong and they can match the PLA in almost every single department. And in the naval sector, I think the Japanese are more powerful when compared to the Chinese. And in addition to all this, they have military support from the US.

Sativa Trainwreck, and no, Japan is small, China is bigger, they can just send them all over to invade and nothing but chinese army forces will be in Japan.

LOOOL
Do you guys still live in the dark ages?
Numbers alone don't matter anymore , it's technology.
And the jsdf is fair superior to china and their rusted Russian bathtub.

Yeah, numbers don't matter anymore, unless these are nuclear warheads. Who is living in the dark ages really?

Do you actually think that an authority which didn't care a damn thing about starving to death a few tens of millions of their own population would care much more about wiping off any number of people they consider between themselves as their worst enemies?


Before  pushing the buttons they will think what is going to happen if they turn a conventional war in a nuclear one.
It's far more likely that they will be the ones nuked by every other nuclear power , with the sole reason to make sure nobody is using them again in the future.
One war to end all wars Smiley.

Also , I don't think Chinese rockets will hit Japan, if I look on how they fake everything , including btc volume , I doubt they have a flying one Smiley.

PS.
Why haven't India and Pakistan used their weapons until know?


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January 02, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
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LOOOL
Do you guys still live in the dark ages?
Numbers alone don't matter anymore , it's technology.
And the jsdf is fair superior to china and their rusted Russian bathtub.

Yeah, numbers don't matter anymore, unless these are nuclear warheads. Who is living in the dark ages really?

Do you actually think that an authority which didn't care a damn thing about starving to death a few tens of millions of their own population would care much more about wiping off any number of people they consider between themselves as their worst enemies?

Before  pushing the buttons they will think what is going to happen if they turn a conventional war in a nuclear one.
It's far more likely that they will be the ones nuked by every other nuclear power , with the sole reason to make sure nobody is using them again in the future.

Actually, they don't ever need to turn a conventional war into a nuclear one, suffice would it be to strike with conventional missiles to Japan's nuclear plants. The effect would then be even worse than direct nuking Japan...

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January 02, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
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Also , I don't think Chinese rockets will hit Japan, if I look on how they fake everything , including btc volume , I doubt they have a flying one Smiley.

I thought it had been only americans with their humans-to-Moon show... And now it is China following their steps, lol!

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January 02, 2014, 02:03:23 PM
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Also , I don't think Chinese rockets will hit Japan, if I look on how they fake everything , including btc volume , I doubt they have a flying one Smiley.

They've had a missile program since the 50s, and currently have an active space program. I'm pretty sure they know how to make rockets hit Japan.  Tongue

EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/14/chinese-spacecraft-lands-moon-china
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