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Question: Will China go to war with Japan?
Yes - 31 (22.8%)
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November 29, 2013, 09:42:56 AM
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With the increased integration of economies in the world, I highly doubt any countries actually want to go to war (barring some of those with a deep hatred for each other) due to the extreme economic side effects. China is just pulling out some bluster to maintain it's control over the population as usual.
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November 29, 2013, 09:51:59 AM
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I've taken the liberty of correcting the order the OP article authors put the sentences in.

"China unilaterally announced the creation of a [sic] "Air Defense Identification Zone" over several islands it and Japan have both claimed. The two countries have been sharply at odds over those isles, which are believed to be near large reserves of natural resources.

Washington responded negatively to what Secretary of State John Kerry characterized as an "escalatory action (that) will only increase tensions in the region and create risks of an incident."

Two U.S. military aircraft flew into China's newly claimed and challenged air defense zone over the East China Sea, a U.S. official said, an action that could inflame tensions between the world powers."

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November 29, 2013, 10:03:21 AM
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Traditional wars are a thing of the past, unless its over resources.
There are huge wars going on economically and electronically without most noticing as we speak.
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November 29, 2013, 12:56:34 PM
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No

Firstly, China is a civilization state - they've been fighting off the barbarians for thousands of years so the US doesn't bother them.  China's biggest threat is internal instability, so war isnt a good idea. 
It would damage their uber neo liberal capitalist system which is doing really well for them at the moment.
They are asserting regional control.  Neither country could overwhelm the other without great personal cost. 
Cyber war will be China's preferred battleground.
Japan needs to sort alot of things out before they could even consider such.
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November 29, 2013, 05:15:16 PM
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Another possibility is that the Chinese and Japanese are engaging in some clever collaboration.

They both know that divisions can be exploited by Western powers to try and exert influence in the region. Why not hand out a dispute on a silver platter, and make it the most dramatic issue that can give lots of pictures of warships and fighter jets to fill up newpapers and TV screens? If the Chinese and Japanese have agreed to stage this (and never create any real tension or conflict from it), it could make any dispute that Western powers might like to encourage look like a minor issue.

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It seems that China and Japan are pretty well agreed on some policy areas, despite video footage of military warships, or tales of fighter jets shadowing defiant commercial airliners.

Does anyone know that those pictures of Chinese warships were actually taken in the past few weeks? It's just video of ships and aircraft carriers. Do we know the stories are for real? I would suggest that very few people are at all well placed to know these things for a fact. They're just stories until something a bit more concrete takes place.

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November 29, 2013, 06:39:44 PM
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If you think that no country is interested in going to war...

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the UNITED STATES OF Aaaa...


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November 29, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
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If you think that no country is interested in going to war...

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the UNITED STATES OF Aaaa...



USA may want to go to war. But not with China.
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November 30, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
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Aaaa was involved in 70+ wars(the way of...oops they see it) in the last 70 years, so nothing new.
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November 30, 2013, 01:23:22 PM
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China benefits too much from trade to go to war...

Exactly. Most countries these days do. Doesn't mean wars are impossible, of course, but there are huge economic incentives working against it that are much bigger than they were 50-100 years ago. That's why we had two world wars within 30 years but then not any more in the last 70+.

People tend to overestimate the importance of daily news reports about conflicts. The Japan-China dispute was making headlines earlier this year and people thought war was imminent and then it faded completely from most people's memories until it came back just now. Doesn't mean war is impossible, just a lot less likely than a lot of people tend to think.
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November 30, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
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I'm quite sure that they won't

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November 30, 2013, 05:51:20 PM
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I'm quite sure that they won't

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November 30, 2013, 06:28:13 PM
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I don't think they will. But I do see US is taking a piss by pushing the boundary. i.e. Flying over the China zone with 2 B52. Do they really want China to shoot them down, so they can go to war?

US get more out of this if they go to war with China. Since China owe most of their debt.
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December 02, 2013, 02:11:29 PM
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I think full-fledged war is unlikely to break out between China and Japan simply because going to war with Japan means going to war with the United States.
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December 02, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
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China will never risk a war.
Right now they will get their ass kicked in so many forms , both on the war from and the economic one that is madness  to even think about it.
Also China is not known for winning wars  Smiley

I also don't think it will ever come to a full-fledged conflict with Japan, but China is well known for the border incidents and armed clashes with her neighbors. And they have a short memory for kindnesses and a long memory for offenses...

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December 02, 2013, 07:16:38 PM
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lol - It would take a lot more than one broken down Russian surplus aircraft carrier to go up against the US Navy.  China is not that stupid. Nothing but saber rattling.

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December 02, 2013, 08:00:21 PM
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I doubt there will be war, those are just a couple of not very important and  unpopulated islands  Wink
they're  just showing off Cheesy

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December 02, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
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Moreover During the war the Other countries would probably jump in to take advantage

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December 02, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
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Moreover During the war the Other countries would probably jump in to take advantage

of what?
I don't see why this would happen

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December 02, 2013, 10:44:38 PM
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Is it for real this time? Will China go to war with Japan (and possibly the US)?


U.S. B-52s flew over China's controversial new air defense zone
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/world/asia/china-us-b52s/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

No, China didn't survive for 5000 years by being stupid and fighting expensive wars where there is nothing to gain... unlike the West.

China is playing a game of poker... gaining as much as it can by bluffing where the opponents are too weak to call.


No , china fought some very expensive wars , lost most of them , their battle record stinks and furthermore now the people in China have no wish for a new war.
Also , their bluff was over with this move....
They didn't have any reaction , not even after this , not telling about sending a few aircraft to intercept those bombers.

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December 02, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
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No, China didn't survive for 5000 years by being stupid and fighting expensive wars where there is nothing to gain... unlike the West.

China is playing a game of poker... gaining as much as it can by bluffing where the opponents are too weak to call.

The history of the West is no shorter than that of China if your point was about longevity and continuity. So there is nothing much spectacular or outstanding about China in this respect. The history of Western civilization has just been more properly documented...

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