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January 02, 2014, 04:14:35 PM
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China’s 2013 Military Budget went up 10.7% $114.3 Billion and is spending much more on defense than it discloses. In 2012, the DoD estimates China spent between $135 billion and $215 billion on military-related expenditures.

China buying up useless hardware and a second-hand Russian aircraft carrier (which is actually good for nothing) is not going to help them. Japan is having the best technology. China won't be able to match it even with a 10x budget.

that is there first. china are currently building a 110,000-ton nuclear-powered 'super aircraft carrier' that will be ready in 2015 with more planed.

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January 02, 2014, 04:20:35 PM
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China’s 2013 Military Budget went up 10.7% $114.3 Billion and is spending much more on defense than it discloses. In 2012, the DoD estimates China spent between $135 billion and $215 billion on military-related expenditures.

China buying up useless hardware and a second-hand Russian aircraft carrier (which is actually good for nothing) is not going to help them. Japan is having the best technology. China won't be able to match it even with a 10x budget.

You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon now with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...

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January 02, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
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that is there first. china are currently building a 110,000-ton nuclear-powered 'super aircraft carrier' that will be ready in 2015 with more planed.

I will believe it when I watch it in action. If China is having such capability, then why it didn't build its current aircraft carrier, rather than buying up second hand junk from Russia? Even now the PLAN is in possession of just ONE aircraft carrier (the former Soviet carrier Varyag).



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January 02, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
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No matter what way you look at it they are not the defenseless towel heads the US are used to pushing around. they can bite back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAYzkqYl-oA

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January 02, 2014, 04:25:21 PM
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You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...

Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?



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January 02, 2014, 04:36:48 PM
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You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...

Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?

Hey, we were talking about China vs Japan and the tech superiority of the latter before the former (from your words), and now you talk about the USA, lol. What about the Japanese launching something to the Moon really?

I already told you that just one warhead thrown and the deal is over for Japan. Is it that hard to understand? Japan taken by itself is not a match for China, period

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January 02, 2014, 04:56:09 PM
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There are still some japanese in isolated islands still at war. And that's no joke.

That was actually just a bit of bad propaganda to make the Japanese look like war-crazy ultra-nationalists.

And it definitely can't be true in 2014, the soldiers doing this would be in their late 80's and 90's.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/28/secondworldwar.japan

Well , not sure if its' real or not but there were some people out there claiming to be soldiers.
So , based on the previous users assumption , the war isn't over right? We still have a nut with a rifle , not an ak , so japan isn't defeated yet.
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January 02, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
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You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...

Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?

Hey, we were talking about China vs Japan and the tech superiority of the latter before the former (from your words), and now you talk about the USA, lol. What about the Japanese launching something to the Moon really?

I already told you that just one warhead thrown and the deal is over for Japan. Is it that hard to understand?


The Japanese sent a rocket to the moon 17 years before the Chinese.  hiten vs chang'n

They abandoned the program because it wasn't cost effective and no real objective beyond.
The Chinese are wasting money on propaganda , just like the Americans did with the Apollo.
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January 02, 2014, 05:09:50 PM
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You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...

Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?

Hey, we were talking about China vs Japan and the tech superiority of the latter before the former (from your words), and now you talk about the USA, lol. What about the Japanese launching something to the Moon really?

I already told you that just one warhead thrown and the deal is over for Japan. Is it that hard to understand?


The Japanese sent a rocket to the moon 17 years before the Chinese.  hiten vs chang'n

They abandoned the program because it wasn't cost effective and no real objective beyond.
The Chinese are wasting money on propaganda , just like the Americans did with the Apollo.

Oh, really? According to this they launched their first lunar orbiter only in 2007 (not just a fly-by mission)... Not quite 17 years before the Chinese, especially when taking into account that the latter launched their first orbiter in the same year...

And the facts still somehow contradict your assertion that they abandoned the program

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January 02, 2014, 05:41:47 PM
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I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

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I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

To the moon, that was your post.
Although I appreciate people who try to argue about how what they say are true , I hate people who twist their words to come to the same conclusion.

You can argue about the Chinese high tech but still:
They haven't been able to build a single nuclear factory by their own , they haven't been able to build an air carrier by their own , they haven't been able to build a commercial plane by their own. Their own bullet train was a total "success".
More bridges have collapsed since 2000 in China than in Europe since 1900.
Now really...

And you know the most humiliating stuff is ? That the best roads in China are actually built by Japanese and Korean companies.

China is a fake one big fake and since we're here on bitcointalk , all that came from China were fake , fake and again fake numbers.
And , god help us when this Chinese bubble will burst  (not bitcoin related).
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January 02, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
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I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

To the moon, that was your post.
Although I appreciate people who try to argue about how what they say are true , I hate people who twist their words to come to the same conclusion.

I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

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January 02, 2014, 07:05:40 PM
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China is a fake one big fake and since we're here on bitcointalk , all that came from China were fake , fake and again fake numbers.
And , god help us when this Chinese bubble will burst  (not bitcoin related).

If this Chinese bubble is fake, what then are you afraid of really?

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January 02, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
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China is a fake one big fake and since we're here on bitcointalk , all that came from China were fake , fake and again fake numbers.
And , god help us when this Chinese bubble will burst  (not bitcoin related).

If this Chinese bubble is fake, what then are you afraid of really?

I'm afraid of the people reacting like something serious is happening. Just like in the btc story.
I warned people since November that Chinese numbers are fakes , and even that it is proven now they were fakes . we had a crash , based mostly on speculation.

This will also happen when the Chinese dragon will reveal itself as being made of paper , cheap one 2. Lot's of people will make very wrong decisions influenced by the news and they will trigger an avalanche.
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I didn't find anything there that would say that they landed or at least tried to land something to the Moon (if you don't consider as landing crashing into). Japan didn't land anything there, and China is the third country after Russia and the USA to have actually sent anything to the Moon (and successfully landed there). At first one of you begins to talk about the USA successes (switching from Japan's in question) and then the other about what is not relevant to the point (and lying at that about the Japanese no longer being interested in the program), lol...

To the moon, that was your post.
Although I appreciate people who try to argue about how what they say are true , I hate people who twist their words to come to the same conclusion.

I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

Unless it comes back with some martian super weapon , Japan will still kick china's ass in a war Smiley.

Unfortunately for me I've lived too much in a communist country to know what propaganda is , I still can't HODL my laugh when people I meet and talk with tell me how advanced and powerful the Russian army was Smiley , too bad it lacked weapons , fuel, fighters that managed to land twice without crashing and people that won't run away with the enemy. =)).

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January 02, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
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I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

Unless it comes back with some martian super weapon , Japan will still kick china's ass in a war Smiley.

Unfortunately for me I've lived too much in a communist country to know what propaganda is , I still can't HODL my laugh when people I meet and talk with tell me how advanced and powerful the Russian army was Smiley , too bad it lacked weapons , fuel, fighters that managed to land twice without crashing and people that won't run away with the enemy. =)).

Some bryant.coleman says here that Russia is having the largest number of nuclear weapons in the world which make the best intercontinental ballistic missiles out there as well as the best air-defense systems in the world...

Do you really think I would rather believe you after you faked the Chinese landing on the Moon?

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I think it is pretty obvious what I'm talking about here, and what my words refer to , i.e. the Chinese flying to the Moon and soft landing there (don't try these petty semantics tricks with me, they won't do). Though you are right, you may start hating yourself, since now you have all the reasons for that (and don't forget to add to this your outright lies about the Japanese losing interest in the Moon). You may call China twice as fake (or even more), but this won't help you change the fact that it is their rover which successfully landed there now and is alive and kicking, not the Japanese one...

Unless it comes back with some martian super weapon , Japan will still kick china's ass in a war Smiley.

Unfortunately for me I've lived too much in a communist country to know what propaganda is , I still can't HODL my laugh when people I meet and talk with tell me how advanced and powerful the Russian army was Smiley , too bad it lacked weapons , fuel, fighters that managed to land twice without crashing and people that won't run away with the enemy. =)).

Some bryant.coleman says here that Russia is having the largest number of nuclear weapons in the world which make the best intercontinental ballistic missiles out there as well as the best air-defense systems in the world...

Do you really think I would rather believe you after you faked the Chinese landing on the Moon?

Depends which of us actually drove a Russian tank while in the army Smiley)).
Which was supposed to be on of the best tanks in the world.. to bad nobody managed to get over 75% hit that piece of garbage when the auto loader didn't fail at least =))).

Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

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January 02, 2014, 09:27:23 PM
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Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

I don't ignore anyone, but this would be enough to put you there, since this would overwhelm the amount of garbage you produce here. I think that the choice of millions of rebels, insurgents, and whatnot who can part with their life any day speaks louder than your words...

Even US special forces used captured AK-47's in Vietnam, lol

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Just like the Kalashnikov is a very good gun , works in snow mud water , too bad that when it comes to actually hitting something you have to empty 3 rounds to hit the damn elephant.

I don't ignore anyone, but this would be enough to put you there, since this would overwhelm the amount of garbage you produce here. I think that the choice of millions of rebels, insurgents, and whatnot who can part with their life any day speaks louder than your words...

Even US special forces used captured AK-47's in Vietnam, lol

Common don't be a moron , the ak is one inaccurate piece of garbage.
It works wonders in close combat and in ambushes but when the targets gets beyond 200 you have to switch weapons or dig your way to hell.

It's one simple weapon and you can even pee on it and it will work (did that with one of my fellows's ak)  ,but there are tons more which I would prefer if my country would send me to the battlefield.

Have you ever fired with one?
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