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September 17, 2018, 04:19:57 PM
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Just received confirmation. My 2 Z9 biggies shipped out 3h ago!

Here's to hoping no 25% customs tariff!

Just received notice on my first 2, also. Should have 1 more from the 2nd batch.

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if you are in the USA and bought 2 Z9s, you can pretty bet on getting the tariff. get your checkbook ready as those two miners combined are thousands of dollars that will not be unnoticed.

Aye, I'm expecting to get hit for $2500 (3319*3*0.25)... but praying they get through without that hit. The power supplies ship separate, with a unique invoice and a different HST code.. I haven't looked that code up to see what bracket it fits in... here's to hodling to earn back later. Smiley

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I think the current tariff is hit and miss.  I brought in 20 z9 minis through Fedex in two separate shipments and looks like I escaped the tariffs both times.  Fedex did the clearance with formal entrees.  No idea what HS Code they used.

Reports throughout this thread seem to indicate that some are getting charged and others are not.  So good luck with that.

But I'm pretty sure when/if the next round of tariffs is approved, we will all be paying on everything coming in from China. No more Antminer orders for me until that is resolved and the tariffs go away.

Good luck with the Z9s.  My zcash mining payout has dropped by about 25% since this second batch began shipping (in coin qty not USD amount).



From my experience being in importer of Chinese goods for about 10 years now. Fedex will send you a nice invoice in 2-4 weeks. So look out for it.

Received the Fedex Activity Record today for my 2nd group of 10 pieces imported on August 31.  Fedex charged me $25.96 for clearance with a value $7495 USD and entered duty free using 8471.50.0150  Smiley
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September 17, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
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Received the Fedex Activity Record today for my 2nd group of 10 pieces imported on August 31.  Fedex charged me $25.96 for clearance with a value $7495 USD and entered duty free using 8471.50.0150  Smiley

count your blessings that Fedex may have not fixed this yet. the HTS code is wrong, there was ruling to change it for miners being imported. if they missed you then be happy. i know that UPS has caught up to speed on this. don't ask me how i know and how much i paid.
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September 17, 2018, 06:53:23 PM
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https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/zcash-network-hashrate-chart

hmm batch 2 still not delivered but hash rate still rising
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September 17, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
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https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/zcash-network-hashrate-chart

hmm batch 2 still not delivered but hash rate still rising

yup, my earnings/day dropped by 15%.
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September 18, 2018, 02:01:55 AM
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https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/zcash-network-hashrate-chart

hmm batch 2 still not delivered but hash rate still rising

yup, my earnings/day dropped by 15%.
batch 3 I meant
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September 18, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
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Hahahah.  .  You’ve been here long enough now to see this is merely a game to fleece the naive.  You seem to still fall in that camp.  Also what did I say that was confusing to you.  You must confuse easily.  I’d say it’s quite the of contrary. Using one world currency will make it easier to progress their agenda.  Explain to me how this bs is ever going to be decentralized when the rich build the machines and the power costs arent equal across the world.  Centralize this shit and really put the fucks to the users. Checkmate!


Again call me whatever names you like just shows to me I struck a nerve.   I’ll be awaiting your educated answer. Since I’m so stupid of life. Please fine sir do school me.

I'm not explaining shit to you!  You're not worth my damn time.

You're mind is too far gone, weak and too easily manipulated.

Hahaha. Typical lazy answer.  Call out someone and then not have the ability to take the time to explain what it is that you so “get” and I do not.  I’m guessing your get rich quick scheme you thought you had going here didn’t pan out so well.  I’m in the same boat as with all other miners who didn’t centralize to a data center.  This system cannot work as designed unless power is equal across the world.  I still hodl btc as I never know what it’s going to do but to be so certain “YOU” know how this will play out is naive at the least.  I was there once.  What I do know for certain as this grows more will try to take it down.  I’d love to see that we have a system in place that deals with the centralization problem.  How to put trust that the code won’t be forked and we add 21 mil.  I mean in all of history how many currencies have survived. I’ll give you a hint 0.  So please if your gonna stick your head out please by all means help me to understand what it is that you so easily “get”.  Thanks

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September 18, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
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We need to see videos of OC on the z9.  So far nothing is out but balance and turbo mode.  We need someone to get into the 650m+ overclock and see stability

My batch 1 is completely stable at 750M and has been running since the day I received. Batch 2 units I can't run higher than 650M.
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September 18, 2018, 03:43:46 PM
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We need to see videos of OC on the z9.  So far nothing is out but balance and turbo mode.  We need someone to get into the 650m+ overclock and see stability

My batch 1 is completely stable at 750M and has been running since the day I received. Batch 2 units I can't run higher than 650M.

This matches my results.  I started all of my batch 2 units at 681 and have been down-clocking when a string crashes.  Most are now running 650 or slightly faster.  All of my batch 1 are still running stable at 750.
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My first day of mining when I received on 6th Sept was 0.08802152 ZEC
Today I could only get 0.05651347... 35% drop in 2 weeks!!!

I am mining on ProHashing, on ViaBTC I got 0.06173636 ZEC as yesterday.

Current Zcash Difficulty: 29,539,436.77081280
1 Day Difficulty Change: 21.18 %
7 Day Difficulty Change: 38.96 %
30 Day Difficulty Change: 114.18 %
90 Day Difficulty Change: 190.07 %

09/18/2018   26,225,998.94755589
09/17/2018   24,377,050.14663627
09/16/2018   23,399,996.64078408
09/15/2018   22,815,394.89863244
09/14/2018   24,035,440.54764720
09/13/2018   21,230,564.33161569
09/12/2018   20,883,688.62658165
09/11/2018   21,256,976.24139297
09/10/2018   18,710,126.29127313
09/09/2018   18,273,529.52193197
09/08/2018   18,046,376.01809682
09/07/2018   17,380,188.74571841
09/06/2018   16,795,519.42086974
Source: https://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/zcash-difficulty-chart

For those who have not received batch 2 is in danger...
Another Never ROI miner is born ...  Cry
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September 18, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
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My first day of mining when I received on 6th Sept was 0.08802152 ZEC
Today I could only get 0.05651347... 35% drop in 2 weeks!!!

I am mining on ProHashing, on ViaBTC I got 0.06173636 ZEC as yesterday.

Current Zcash Difficulty: 29,539,436.77081280
1 Day Difficulty Change: 21.18 %
7 Day Difficulty Change: 38.96 %
30 Day Difficulty Change: 114.18 %
90 Day Difficulty Change: 190.07 %



what did you expect then ? the Equihash network is relatively small and mainly run by nvidia gpus. 1 z9 mini over-clocked z9 mini = 12 * gtx 1080ti ! 190% in 90 days change is nothing. now that they sell for cheaper, you should expect something like 1900% pretty soon. those z9 minis will do MAX 1-2  $ daily at most in 2 months at most ! . mark my words come back in NOV.

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September 18, 2018, 08:55:04 PM
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2 Z9s just cleared UPS/Customs

Government Charges:1,857.76
Brokerage Charges:37.16
Freight Charges:0.00

Total Due USD:1,894.92  Angry

By the time the 3rd one hits, it'll be a Jihan special: Buy-3-Pay-for-4.  Roll Eyes

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September 19, 2018, 12:35:47 AM
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My first day of mining when I received on 6th Sept was 0.08802152 ZEC
Today I could only get 0.05651347... 35% drop in 2 weeks!!!

I am mining on ProHashing, on ViaBTC I got 0.06173636 ZEC as yesterday.

Current Zcash Difficulty: 29,539,436.77081280
1 Day Difficulty Change: 21.18 %
7 Day Difficulty Change: 38.96 %
30 Day Difficulty Change: 114.18 %
90 Day Difficulty Change: 190.07 %



what did you expect then ? the Equihash network is relatively small and mainly run by nvidia gpus. 1 z9 mini over-clocked z9 mini = 12 * gtx 1080ti ! 190% in 90 days change is nothing. now that they sell for cheaper, you should expect something like 1900% pretty soon. those z9 minis will do MAX 1-2  $ daily at most in 2 months at most ! . mark my words come back in NOV.

well i don’t own any but thats kinda a crazy drop in profits since all gpu miners have already been pushed out so it should not be as high difficulty rises since batch 3 has just started to ship
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September 19, 2018, 03:28:12 AM
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Honestly I would assume someone either bitmain or another manufacture has a even better miner by now.  I wouldn't be surprised if someone has 200kh 1000w miners out there..
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September 19, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
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2 Z9s just cleared UPS/Customs

Government Charges:1,857.76
Brokerage Charges:37.16
Freight Charges:0.00

Total Due USD:1,894.92  Angry

By the time the 3rd one hits, it'll be a Jihan special: Buy-3-Pay-for-4.  Roll Eyes

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Ouch!

And what will the US government do with your $1857.46?  Hire more customs inspectors?

So glad I didn't gamble on the Z9.  I'm done importing Antminers until the tariffs go away.
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September 19, 2018, 04:21:19 PM
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2 Z9s just cleared UPS/Customs

Government Charges:1,857.76
Brokerage Charges:37.16
Freight Charges:0.00

Total Due USD:1,894.92  Angry

By the time the 3rd one hits, it'll be a Jihan special: Buy-3-Pay-for-4.  Roll Eyes

-j

Ouch!

And what will the US government do with your $1857.46?  Hire more customs inspectors?

So glad I didn't gamble on the Z9.  I'm done importing Antminers until the tariffs go away.

My Batch 2 mini showed up a few weeks ago.  Usually UPS takes about a week to get the broker charges out.  Still nothing from UPS, hoping a single mini slid by them!!

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September 19, 2018, 04:26:46 PM
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2 Z9s just cleared UPS/Customs

Government Charges:1,857.76
Brokerage Charges:37.16
Freight Charges:0.00

Total Due USD:1,894.92  Angry

By the time the 3rd one hits, it'll be a Jihan special: Buy-3-Pay-for-4.  Roll Eyes

-j

Ouch!

And what will the US government do with your $1857.46?  Hire more customs inspectors?

So glad I didn't gamble on the Z9.  I'm done importing Antminers until the tariffs go away.

My Batch 2 mini showed up a few weeks ago.  Usually UPS takes about a week to get the broker charges out.  Still nothing from UPS, hoping a single mini slid by them!!

Items under $2500 probably would get through unless a whole container or other bulk grouping was identified. under $2500 is considered non-commercial and can automatically pass through without "formal" paperwork (at least according to my minimal research). Over $2500 is considered "Commercial" and requires some formal processes.

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September 19, 2018, 06:16:04 PM
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2 Z9s just cleared UPS/Customs

Government Charges:1,857.76
Brokerage Charges:37.16
Freight Charges:0.00

Total Due USD:1,894.92  Angry

By the time the 3rd one hits, it'll be a Jihan special: Buy-3-Pay-for-4.  Roll Eyes

-j

Ouch!

And what will the US government do with your $1857.46?  Hire more customs inspectors?

So glad I didn't gamble on the Z9.  I'm done importing Antminers until the tariffs go away.

Yup, me too. Fortunately the weather is changing, so now any mining, even at a loss, is straight profit for me.
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September 19, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
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Hahahah.  .  You’ve been here long enough now to see this is merely a game to fleece the naive.  You seem to still fall in that camp.  Also what did I say that was confusing to you.  You must confuse easily.  I’d say it’s quite the of contrary. Using one world currency will make it easier to progress their agenda.  Explain to me how this bs is ever going to be decentralized when the rich build the machines and the power costs arent equal across the world.  Centralize this shit and really put the fucks to the users. Checkmate!


Again call me whatever names you like just shows to me I struck a nerve.   I’ll be awaiting your educated answer. Since I’m so stupid of life. Please fine sir do school me.

I'm not explaining shit to you!  You're not worth my damn time.

You're mind is too far gone, weak and too easily manipulated.

Hahaha. Typical lazy answer.  Call out someone and then not have the ability to take the time to explain what it is that you so “get” and I do not.  I’m guessing your get rich quick scheme you thought you had going here didn’t pan out so well.  I’m in the same boat as with all other miners who didn’t centralize to a data center.  This system cannot work as designed unless power is equal across the world.  I still hodl btc as I never know what it’s going to do but to be so certain “YOU” know how this will play out is naive at the least.  I was there once.  What I do know for certain as this grows more will try to take it down.  I’d love to see that we have a system in place that deals with the centralization problem.  How to put trust that the code won’t be forked and we add 21 mil.  I mean in all of history how many currencies have survived. I’ll give you a hint 0.  So please if your gonna stick your head out please by all means help me to understand what it is that you so easily “get”.  Thanks

BR



You don't deserve my quality time.  You're as "naive" as you sound.

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September 20, 2018, 01:57:29 AM
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Z9's are showing up now.  So.. anyone know how to overclock of if these can be?  The max they run is 550m.  I wanna see them at 650m
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September 20, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
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Z9's are showing up now.  So.. anyone know how to overclock of if these can be?  The max they run is 550m.  I wanna see them at 650m

Mine got delayed due to "equipment failure" -- did yours actually arrive and can you confirm this? Or are you basing this on the fact that they have a 550Mhz image available for download?

-j

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