[BSS] BossCoin - Do Not Waste Your Time (Scam Coin)!

[this1dude]

Guys and Gals -- it is with deep regret that I share this with you.  You've seen me promoting BSS coin for the last week since its launch.  Please see the notice up on http://bosscoin.org, and point your miners at something with real value -- StableCoin for example!

EDIT If you're on this first page, after you're done reading, go on over and submit your vote at this poll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365734.0

[the_coinhunter]

Sorry, but I didn't get it 

Can you explain what you mean exactly, please? 

[LeftToeCut]

What are we supposed to look at?

[this1dude]

hold on, coming up shortly

[tom99]

maybe Op meant look at new site.

[cowandtea]

why?

[this1dude]

So, here goes the story of another shit / scam coin...   I met the founder of bosscoin (handle here is bosscoin btw) on Monday, the day of BSS' launch and offered him to help with the bosscoin.org site and community building.  Fast forward to this morning, below was the first revision that I took a screen shot of, which I was going to feature on http://bosscoin.org unless he returned my stolen LTC's.  



A minute after posting this, he redirected bosscoin.org to bosscointalk.org - to hide the scam home page I massaged to look pretty.

In my defense, I always wanted to work in developing an ALT coin and promoting it to build a strong community of supporters.  I liked the name and saw potential in the coin; I promoted the hell out of the coin even though I was waiting for him to let me know what sets it apart from other coins.  I asked him 20-30 questions per day that fell on deaf ears.  Yesterday, he promised we'll talk on the phone after a planned exchange of 50LTCs for BSS, I stayed up (stupid) til almost 1AM and he went AWOL.  This morning he said he transferred the funds.  I gave him an hour for BSS or LTC to show up at my account, otherwise I will do this, first tarnishing the BossCoin, and eventually him.

I will not reveal his identity, yet -- but when I do, feel free to let him know how you feel about having set up pools, mined and believed in BSS.  Personally, I apologize sincerely if I convinced you to get into BSS, as I naively thought the guy was truly sincere.  

If you'd like me to work with you on showcasing and building a community around your ALT with real value (as in StableCoin) and support, you can view my posts promoting BSS on here and PM me.  

Lastly, if the BSS coin reaches an exchange (he is supposedly building one just for BSS and talking with others), please make sure it is as close to BTC 0.0 as possible.

Lesson learned.  Moving on.

[evershawn]

Oh, wow...

That really blows man...

Canceling my orders for BSS...

[tokyoghetto]

anyone supporting BSS is an IDIOT! I mentioned it on the first page of BSS that the DIFF algo is ALL SCREWED UP...why would you guys trust a DEV with only 5 posts to develop a proper coin.

First off , 1440 block diff change is STUPID...the only coins that can survive such a huge block diff change is LTC and BTC....everything else gets raped and abandoned.

Second, everyone who is late to the game and thinks that backing any new coin will make them rich is daydreaming. Anyone who backed THCcoin got robbed because that coin had a keylogger. I wish this coin had a keylogger so you guys would learn your lesson

If this coin does by some miracle survive, expect a hard fork to change the diff issue.

My advice is, its not too late to back the more established coins.

WDC has Scharmbeck and will be going to BTC38 which means WDC/YUAN trading
DGC has CryptoAve going into Closed Beta this month, expect DGC/ARG/SRC to USD trading.
SBC has Artos  and is developing wallet coin mixing integration using the TOR network.

each of these coins is trading below a $1
take this from someone who watched LTC go from 23 cents, to 60 cents, to $1 (witnessed live on BTC-E) to $4....well you get the point.

Its not too late to back REAL coins with a REAL future...BSS is a SCAM just as CHNcoin is a SCAM....and CHNcoin is a double scam considering people are just mining and dumping that giant turd because it has NO REAL VALUE.

/end rant

[this1dude]

Yup, pretty ignorant of me, though in the absence of good technical understanding or answers from the dev, I asked 2 experts to offer their professional opinion just yesterday, so no answers yet... I need to stop trusting people, though I don't equate being paranoid with freedom...

[this1dude]

Oh and it won't be an easy decision to share his real identity with the masses.  Who here thinks I should? 

[gorgorom]

Yup, pretty ignorant of me, though in the absence of good technical understanding or answers from the dev, I asked 2 experts to offer their professional opinion just yesterday, so no answers yet... I need to stop trusting people, though I don't equate being paranoid with freedom...

Hey man it's not your fault. Scumbags like this exist all over the world. Preying on honest people. Just remember that there is still good people left in the world. Although hard to find. I think you should reveal his identity

[this1dude]

LOL and I was just banned from the bosscointalk.org forum... so sad! lol You can't make this up.  

Meanwhile, I gave [BSS] a life of its own, must have done something right, the net hash rate of 40MH/s isn't budging... lol

[cryptohunter]

who in their right mind would mine these new wave of shitclones??? they have nothing new to offer and cryptsy is already stacked to the brim with shitclones from the last wave to the extent it is pulling their site down.

You can say with 100% certainty they will not be adding more shitclones EVER. If the coin has nothing new it is done.  They will focus on getting the site ready for more users not more copy paste crap like this.

[evershawn]

Reveal his identity if he really ripped you off. Thieves deserve ZERO respect!

[this1dude]

Reveal his identity if he really ripped you off. Thieves deserve ZERO respect!

"crypto doctor"
google's your friend

[KingGoon]

BossCoin scamming people for 50LTCs    new name should be guppycoin 

[this1dude]

Please help to get the word out and get others who fell for BSS to focus on real ALTernatives.

[LeftToeCut]

Not to throw a pound of salt on your wound but:
They are/were all "scamcoins" till they survive and someone is willing to pay for them. Be it Litecoin or Junkcoin.
Also, why would you send a large amount( 1.7btc equivalent) of an already established coin to a fresh forum account before receiving a coin that was born a day ago? It was unfortunate that it happened to you of course.

[this1dude]

Well, my vision for building the support community and the amount of effort I was going to put into it would have been worth the equivalent value of BSS coins.  I was willing to part with them and send first, simply because the guy trusted me (I was admin and running the whole thing, issuing bounty for graphics development work, etc...) -- so you could say it was a way for me to buy a sizable share in the coin with the hope to develop it into something meaningful.  I had some ideas, but never got to share them with the crooked DEV...  Hey, if this thing stays as is and somehow reaches an exchange, you'll be in a good place. 

[this1dude]

BTW, the scammer DEV was supposed to send bounty to a graphics guy I hired to make this graphic for us:



He did an awesome job, so I sent him the bounty as promised this morning.  And if you ever need a gfx guy to do some work for you, he can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182172

[gorgorom]

Well, my vision for building the support community and the amount of effort I was going to put into it would have been worth the equivalent value of BSS coins.  I was willing to part with them and send first, simply because the guy trusted me (I was admin and running the whole thing, issuing bounty for graphics development work, etc...) -- so you could say it was a way for me to buy a sizable share in the coin with the hope to develop it into something meaningful.  I had some ideas, but never got to share them with the crooked DEV...  Hey, if this thing stays as is and somehow reaches an exchange, you'll be in a good place. 

Sent 5LTC to your sig address. I got scammed not long ago and I know how bad it sucks. Hopefully you can gain back some.

[this1dude]

Dude thanks!  Feels good knowing there are good peeps like you out there...

[Jsnow]

Thank you for those infos!
I'm pretty new to all this altcoins stuff and I was mining it a bit..just going back to something more trustable!

[aleiprecht]

I have been quite lucky with a few new launches of altcoins in the past (Protoshares, Datacoin ... ) and made a few dollars. When I saw the Announcement about Bosscoin, for some reason, it sounded fishy to me.

I didn't bite. I was wondering if I would regret this, but as I see now, It was a good decision...

Just wanted to bump this with more than just the word bump in it

Albi

[BitcoinTate]

So Bosscoin himself has disappeared now? Has anyone looked at the code for the Bosscoin client to make sure there is nothing in it like a key logger or trojan?

[Chris180Z]

Oh and it won't be an easy decision to share his real identity with the masses.  Who here thinks I should?  

I wouldn't advise it, not only is it likely illegal it is also highly immoral in my opinion. If he is a scammer then forget about him, it's not worth it just put your efforts into something else rather than rallying a witch hunt. Also contact forum staff to ban him and again if he signs up with a new account (on same ip address/email).

However, are you sure he has scammed you? Because he hasn't contacted you back? Perhaps something has happened to him? He is ill? There are lots of possibilities. We should wait and see what happens in a few days, until then I will point my mining elsewhere though and cancel my buy order on these coins so thanks for the heads up.

I agree with StableCoin, it appears to have a good little team behind it now and I have also been trying to mine that, although finding the difficulty a little hard for my machine.

A new project that looks like it may have something will be CasinoCoin (CAC) which is launching in 14 days. It has 3 professional devs behind it who are in talks with casinos around the world who are looking for a single casino currency to use instead of fiat (cash in/cash out system in house). It looks like they have done some research and they may have something. It's not just another clone coin, although they are taking the name of the old CasinoCoin which is dying due to the dev abandoning it. Check out the bottom posts by 'casinocoin' - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258090.300

Another great coin is peercoin, although that is sha256 so most can't mine it. I'm investing as much money as I can into that though .

[this1dude]

I don't see your point about it being illegal and I will notify admins, thanks for your suggestions.  As far as him disappearing, he was actively responding, up to an hour before my post, suggesting that he transferred the funds.

[Bfljosh]

Reveal his identity if he really ripped you off. Thieves deserve ZERO respect!

This! reveal it!

I feel sorry for your loss.

[Chris180Z]

I don't see your point about it being illegal and I will notify admins, thanks for your suggestions.  As far as him disappearing, he was actively responding, up to an hour before my post, suggesting that he transferred the funds.

hmm, ok. Also, it's called the Data Protection Act which is in effect in the UK. I am not sure about the USA but I feel the same rules apply. You are revealing his personal information with intent that a person/persons harm that individual or their property. I'm certainly not a legal expert but this surely would be illegal, and as I said it is morally wrong in my opinion (not that my opinion is be all, end all lol. I just have a right to speak and I feel this would be a very bad move).

[evershawn]

I don't see your point about it being illegal and I will notify admins, thanks for your suggestions.  As far as him disappearing, he was actively responding, up to an hour before my post, suggesting that he transferred the funds.

hmm, ok. Also, it's called the Data Protection Act which is in effect in the UK. I am not sure about the USA but I feel the same rules apply. You are revealing his personal information with intent that a person/persons harm that individual or their property. I'm certainly not a legal expert but this surely would be illegal, and as I said it is morally wrong in my opinion (not that my opinion is be all, end all lol. I just have a right to speak and I feel this would be a very bad move).

Not sure about the UK, but here in the USA we call it, Acting to protect your community and it's highly encouraged.

[BitcoinTate]

I don't see your point about it being illegal and I will notify admins, thanks for your suggestions.  As far as him disappearing, he was actively responding, up to an hour before my post, suggesting that he transferred the funds.

hmm, ok. Also, it's called the Data Protection Act which is in effect in the UK. I am not sure about the USA but I feel the same rules apply. You are revealing his personal information with intent that a person/persons harm that individual or their property. I'm certainly not a legal expert but this surely would be illegal, and as I said it is morally wrong in my opinion (not that my opinion is be all, end all lol. I just have a right to speak and I feel this would be a very bad move).

Not sure about the UK, but here in the USA we call it, Acting to protect your community and it's highly encouraged.

+1 Hang em out to be flogged by the mob!

[fendlestick]

I don't see your point about it being illegal and I will notify admins, thanks for your suggestions.  As far as him disappearing, he was actively responding, up to an hour before my post, suggesting that he transferred the funds.

hmm, ok. Also, it's called the Data Protection Act which is in effect in the UK. I am not sure about the USA but I feel the same rules apply. You are revealing his personal information with intent that a person/persons harm that individual or their property. I'm certainly not a legal expert but this surely would be illegal, and as I said it is morally wrong in my opinion (not that my opinion is be all, end all lol. I just have a right to speak and I feel this would be a very bad move).

Not sure about the UK, but here in the USA we call it, Acting to protect your community and it's highly encouraged.

+1 Hang em out to be flogged by the mob!

If they stole your money they are exempt from the Data Protection Act - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/29/section/29

FYI

[Chris180Z]

I don't see your point about it being illegal and I will notify admins, thanks for your suggestions.  As far as him disappearing, he was actively responding, up to an hour before my post, suggesting that he transferred the funds.

hmm, ok. Also, it's called the Data Protection Act which is in effect in the UK. I am not sure about the USA but I feel the same rules apply. You are revealing his personal information with intent that a person/persons harm that individual or their property. I'm certainly not a legal expert but this surely would be illegal, and as I said it is morally wrong in my opinion (not that my opinion is be all, end all lol. I just have a right to speak and I feel this would be a very bad move).

Not sure about the UK, but here in the USA we call it, Acting to protect your community and it's highly encouraged.

+1 Hang em out to be flogged by the mob!

If they stole your money they are exempt from the Data Protection Act - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/29/section/29

FYI

No it would still be against the act. You would go to the police as it would be a matter for them. You wouldn't go round the town saying this person stole my money, here is his address... do your worst. That's called 'incitement' (to commit and crime) and is most certainly against the law. It's a very basic concept to understand. You can't encourage anyone to break the law. Why else would he be posting the address, to get people to send some flowers over?

[this1dude]

That's an assumption you are making.  I just shared what I knew to warn the community against the scammer.  Let this be on the record, I am not advocating or encouraging any malice or revenge and I don't know anything about who he/she/it is in reality.  Just guessing based on a public domain, google search.  Either way I have learned the coin provides little value, though it is saddening to have BossCoin go away as a name.  I may revive this project, under a new domain, with a strong alliance of real and talented people.

[evershawn]

No it would still be against the act. You would go to the police as it would be a matter for them. You wouldn't go round the town saying this person stole my money, here is his address... do your worst. That's called 'incitement' (to commit and crime) and is most certainly against the law. It's a very basic concept to understand. You can't encourage anyone to break the law. Why else would he be posting the address, to get people to send some flowers over?

I didn't see anyone telling anyone else to break the law.

His details are posted for awareness and to prevent other people from dealing with the scumbag. That most certainly is legal and beneficial for the community.

[xTeraa]

BTW, the scammer DEV was supposed to send bounty to a graphics guy I hired to make this graphic for us:

-snip-

He did an awesome job, so I sent him the bounty as promised this morning.  And if you ever need a gfx guy to do some work for you, he can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182172

Thanks for the recommendation, I'm sorry about the LTC theft but I'm glad toxic people in the community are being outed.

[Shadey]

So, here goes the story of another shit / scam coin...   I met the founder of bosscoin (handle here is bosscoin btw) on Monday, the day of BSS' launch and offered him to help with the bosscoin.org site and community building.  Fast forward to this morning, below was the first revision that I took a screen shot of, which I was going to feature on http://bosscoin.org unless he returned my stolen LTC's.  



A minute after posting this, he redirected bosscoin.org to bosscointalk.org - to hide the scam home page I massaged to look pretty.

In my defense, I always wanted to work in developing an ALT coin and promoting it to build a strong community of supporters.  I liked the name and saw potential in the coin; I promoted the hell out of the coin even though I was waiting for him to let me know what sets it apart from other coins.  I asked him 20-30 questions per day that fell on deaf ears.  Yesterday, he promised we'll talk on the phone after a planned exchange of 50LTCs for BSS, I stayed up (stupid) til almost 1AM and he went AWOL.  This morning he said he transferred the funds.  I gave him an hour for BSS or LTC to show up at my account, otherwise I will do this, first tarnishing the BossCoin, and eventually him.

I will not reveal his identity, yet -- but when I do, feel free to let him know how you feel about having set up pools, mined and believed in BSS.  Personally, I apologize sincerely if I convinced you to get into BSS, as I naively thought the guy was truly sincere.  

If you'd like me to work with you on showcasing and building a community around your ALT with real value (as in StableCoin) and support, you can view my posts promoting BSS on here and PM me.  

If you feel for me (yes, I do feel dumb having fallen for this, but I honestly believed it could have been *something*), my LTC address is LSitcdX2t8DzeHsaFKceUouSMonx1aJRE7.  

Lastly, if the BSS coin reaches an exchange (he is supposedly building one just for BSS and talking with others), please make sure it is as close to BTC 0.0 as possible.

Lesson learned.  Moving on.

Kind of saw it comin, that why I was hesitant to mine it. BSS = BullShit Scam in my eyes from the get go lol

[eon89]

Glad I didn't put much time into this coin.

Hope you find a better coin in the future to work on since you seem to be a honest member of the community.. Preferably a CPU mined coin since that is the only type of coin I have a chance at mining decently.

[sunnyeast]

Fortunately, I have not succeeded in trade buying BSS.
Canceling my orders for BSS...

[Jsnow]

There's an answer from BossCoin: http://bosscointalk.org/index.php?topic=46.msg147#msg147

So who to believe about what happened?

[Dark3nvy]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

[bluemystic]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

finally someone with some sense in them +1

[evershawn]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

Interesting how a brand new account posts something like this, jocking BSS so hard.

How about the more interesting fact that he did in fact post some pretty compelling evidence and there's been absolutely zero defense or explanation from the other party... If someone was accusing me publicly of such a thing I'd make some sort of effort to defend myself in person and not on brand new forum accounts.

On the other hand, this1dude, please post the 50 LTC transaction. At this point I side with you mainly because I've seen zero defense from bosscoin

[bluemystic]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

Interesting how a brand new account posts something like this, jocking BSS so hard.

How about the more interesting fact that he did in fact post some pretty compelling evidence and there's been absolutely zero defense or explanation from the other party... If someone was accusing me publicly of such a thing I'd make some sort of effort to defend myself in person and not on brand new forum accounts.

how is a edited picture solid evidence? hmm let me take a screenshot and so some photoshop edits.. at least the DEV did come out and make a reply.. if he had something to hide those sites would be down and that forum would not be up

[evershawn]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

Interesting how a brand new account posts something like this, jocking BSS so hard.

How about the more interesting fact that he did in fact post some pretty compelling evidence and there's been absolutely zero defense or explanation from the other party... If someone was accusing me publicly of such a thing I'd make some sort of effort to defend myself in person and not on brand new forum accounts.

how is a edited picture solid evidence? hmm let me take a screenshot and so some photoshop edits.. at least the DEV did come out and make a reply.. if he had something to hide those sites would be down and that forum would not be up

I still don't see why Bosscoin wouldn't come here to post any sort of defense at a bare minimum. He posts something on his own brand new forum, how's that getting the word out that he is in fact not scamming people?

Let's see if this1dude posts the LTC transaction for verification. That should prove this one way or another.

[Dark3nvy]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

Interesting how a brand new account posts something like this, jocking BSS so hard.

How about the more interesting fact that he did in fact post some pretty compelling evidence and there's been absolutely zero defense or explanation from the other party... If someone was accusing me publicly of such a thing I'd make some sort of effort to defend myself in person and not on brand new forum accounts.

Why not read my first post in Newbie section and you will see why it's a new account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361632.msg3871021#msg3871021

The main reason I'm posting, is I got a message from a friend telling me to stop mining BSS as it's going under. I then see this post on here, through Crypto and see no compelling evidence to support his claim.

If you think this whole thread has compelling evidence, I will tell you this. Nothing in this thread would be classed as compelling evidence in a court of law, in fact it would be laughed at and the person bringing the claim would be locked up for wasting the courts time.

Their is no evidence what so ever in this thread, just a load of words from a guy who has a post count of 56. I've been around forums and website long enough, to learn not to trust someone who has such a low post count and nothing form his posts that would suggest he's worth his weight in gold. Think what you want about me, but as for this guy I would suggest you stop defending him until he gives SOLID EVIDENCE TO THE FACT and not this hearsay crap he's posting.

I'm not stopping mining BSS until there are facts and not fiction.

[bluemystic]

I see no evidence posted on this thread at all, all I see is a screenshot of a complaint and a load of words.

If I was going to make an accusation of such calibre, I would have posted evidence to support my claim. The first piece of evidence would be the LTC transfer data from my wallet to prove that I had made the transaction to BossCoin, I would then post any other evidence I had to support the claim.

I don't see any of that at all, all I see is a guy who is pissed off and making up a load of bullshit.

Provide evidence that would would support your claim, or STFU trying to dis-credit someone because you fell out with them!!!

Interesting how a brand new account posts something like this, jocking BSS so hard.

How about the more interesting fact that he did in fact post some pretty compelling evidence and there's been absolutely zero defense or explanation from the other party... If someone was accusing me publicly of such a thing I'd make some sort of effort to defend myself in person and not on brand new forum accounts.

how is a edited picture solid evidence? hmm let me take a screenshot and so some photoshop edits.. at least the DEV did come out and make a reply.. if he had something to hide those sites would be down and that forum would not be up

I still don't see why Bosscoin wouldn't come here to post any sort of defense at a bare minimum. He posts something on his own brand new forum, how's that getting the word out that he is in fact not scamming people?

Let's see if this1dude posts the LTC transaction for verification. That should prove this one way or another.

even with a LTC transaction for verification how do we prove this guy is telling the truth and that in fact the addresses involved were from these two parties

[evershawn]

even with a LTC transaction for verification how do we prove this guy is telling the truth and that in fact the addresses involved were from these two parties

How would you like him to prove it? You can clearly see his LTC address in his signature. If he posts a transaction that occurred involving that address for 50LTC around that time, I think that's pretty compelling.

How would you like him to prove it?

What evidence has Bosscoin posted to the contrary? As far as I can tell he didn't even bother to post a defense to this until just recently and on his own website... that looks shady to me.

Typically thieves like to run and hide from their crime and to me that looks like exactly what Bosscoin is doing.

I don't know this1dude personally I am 100% just going off of how each party has been responding to this. This1dude seems very passionate about this and I can't see someone going this length over a simple disagreement. It's not like this guy has a history of doing this or something.

[bluemystic]

even with a LTC transaction for verification how do we prove this guy is telling the truth and that in fact the addresses involved were from these two parties

How would you like him to prove it? You can clearly see his LTC address in his signature. If he posts a transaction that occurred involving that address for 50LTC around that time, I think that's pretty compelling.

How would you like him to prove it?

What evidence has Bosscoin posted to the contrary? As far as I can tell he didn't even bother to post a defense to this until just recently and on his own website... that looks shady to me.

Typically thieves like to run and hide from their crime and to me that looks like exactly what Bosscoin is doing.

I don't know this1dude personally I am 100% just going off of how each party has been responding to this. This1dude seems very passionate about this and I can't see someone going this length over a simple disagreement. It's not like this guy has a history of doing this or something.

ever heard of jealousy? jealousy can make you do some fuck*d up shit and spreading lies to bring someones success down is one of them, even with the address in his signature I can also add any address to my signature anytime any day.. no valid proof at all there!

[evershawn]

even with a LTC transaction for verification how do we prove this guy is telling the truth and that in fact the addresses involved were from these two parties

How would you like him to prove it? You can clearly see his LTC address in his signature. If he posts a transaction that occurred involving that address for 50LTC around that time, I think that's pretty compelling.

How would you like him to prove it?

What evidence has Bosscoin posted to the contrary? As far as I can tell he didn't even bother to post a defense to this until just recently and on his own website... that looks shady to me.

Typically thieves like to run and hide from their crime and to me that looks like exactly what Bosscoin is doing.

I don't know this1dude personally I am 100% just going off of how each party has been responding to this. This1dude seems very passionate about this and I can't see someone going this length over a simple disagreement. It's not like this guy has a history of doing this or something.

ever heard of jealousy? jealousy can make you do some fuck*d up shit and spreading lies to bring someones success down is one of them, even with the address in his signature I can also add any address to my signature anytime any day.. no valid proof at all there!

You clearly just want to believe Bosscoin is a good guy and didn't scam anyone. More power to you and I hope you don't get scammed too. In my humble opinion, Bosscoin did a poor job at defending himself and being someone with a background in law enforcement, that screams guilt to me.

I think saying this is inspired by jealousy is a terrible explination for what is going on here.  There are alt coins released all of the time, this guy would have gone mad with jealous rage of that was the case.

Bottom line to me is that you (registered a month ago) and the other guy (registered yesterday) are the only one's here defending Bosscoin and you're doing it by trying to pick apart what he's posted / said about the guy.

How about everything that Bosscoin has NOT posted or said in his own defense? How do you account for that? If this guy was blackmailing Bosscoin why doesn't HE post something like a chat log, screenshot or any specific details.

Reading his reply simple makes me think that he's avoiding it and the fact that he won't post anything here on it enforces that.

[bluemystic]

I invite you over to http://bosscointalk.org/index.php as it has been posted by bosscoin and he clearly explains it all but that isn't good enough for you is it? You can see many people supporting the coin still so they must not think badly of it.. damn it's not posted on bitcointalk so it must not be credible? LOL you are a joke and probably a shill account

[Dark3nvy]

even with a LTC transaction for verification how do we prove this guy is telling the truth and that in fact the addresses involved were from these two parties

How would you like him to prove it? You can clearly see his LTC address in his signature. If he posts a transaction that occurred involving that address for 50LTC around that time, I think that's pretty compelling.

How would you like him to prove it?

What evidence has Bosscoin posted to the contrary? As far as I can tell he didn't even bother to post a defense to this until just recently and on his own website... that looks shady to me.

Typically thieves like to run and hide from their crime and to me that looks like exactly what Bosscoin is doing.

I don't know this1dude personally I am 100% just going off of how each party has been responding to this. This1dude seems very passionate about this and I can't see someone going this length over a simple disagreement. It's not like this guy has a history of doing this or something.

Anyone can be passionate when they try to discourage others, or telling lies. In fact some of the best liers are solicitors and you would believe them in a court of law.

The transaction of LTC wouldn't be enough as proof, but it would be a start.

Your comment about being in law enforcement just made me LOL, someone who doesn't protest against what's being said in my mind is innocent until proven guilty. That's how the law works here in the UK, as for this1dude I would have to say he's guilty of libel seeing as he's trying to prove without evidence.

[evershawn]

I invite you over to http://bosscointalk.org/index.php as it has been posted by bosscoin and he clearly explains it all but that isn't good enough for you is it? You can see many people supporting the coin still so the must not think badly of it.. damn it's not posted on bitcointalk so it must not be credible? LOL you are a joke and probably a shill account

You're calling ME a shill account and YOU'RE the new guy around here? That's hilarious...

I think I responded to you intelligently and asked you some legitimate questions about your arguments which you avoiding even responding to. You pick apart this1dude's statements, saying he posted a 'photoshopped sceenshot' (which is stupid since Bosscoin admits on his own forum that basically his screenshot is legit and he was in fact the guy that set up the website for Bosscoin), now you resort to attacking me because I post back against what you're saying and ask you a few difficult questions that you avoid and I'm a shill account now... lol... come on kid.

I think it's time for you to leave.

[Dark3nvy]

I invite you over to http://bosscointalk.org/index.php as it has been posted by bosscoin and he clearly explains it all but that isn't good enough for you is it? You can see many people supporting the coin still so the must not think badly of it.. damn it's not posted on bitcointalk so it must not be credible? LOL you are a joke and probably a shill account

You're calling ME a shill account and YOU'RE the new guy around here? That's hilarious...

I think I responded to you intelligently and asked you some legitimate questions about your arguments which you avoiding even responding to. You pick apart this1dude's statements, saying he posted a 'photoshopped sceenshot' (which is stupid since Bosscoin admits on his own forum that basically his screenshot is legit and he was in fact the guy that set up the website for Bosscoin), now you resort to attacking me because I post back against what you're saying and ask you a few difficult questions that you avoid and I'm a shill account now... lol... come on kid.

I think it's time for you to leave.

You really need to open your eyes and see through them correctly at what is actually on this thread, rather than defending someone who hasn't actually posted any evidence to back up his claim.

What I see is a disgruntled person, who now wants to take over BSS and is doing everything he can to achieve that and yes he has put that in this thread......

[bluemystic]

I was just going to say the same thing... the guy said he would take over bosscoin if this dev fails.. if he fucking got scammed by the coin why would he want to take over the development?

[evershawn]

Anyone can be passionate when they try to discourage others, or telling lies. In fact some of the best liers are solicitors and you would believe them in a court of law.

The transaction of LTC wouldn't be enough as proof, but it would be a start.

Your comment about being in law enforcement just made me LOL, someone who doesn't protest against what's being said in my mind is innocent until proven guilty. That's how the law works here in the UK, as for this1dude I would have to say he's guilty of libel seeing as he's trying to prove without evidence.

Innocent until proven guilty is for a judge and a court of law but there's a whole other theory to find out if someone is suspect or lying and I feel like Bosscoin is hiding something based on what's taken place, simple as that.

And you, who are you? You registered here yesterday, PM'd me about Bosscoin right away and you protest for him and just have all of this passion for the guy and his coin... Who are you exactly? Can you show that you have ANY credibility and are not just a Bosscoin alt account trying to stir the drama soup?

Hard to take both of you guys seriously when you're both new guys around here, try to discredit Bitcointalk (the biggest forum around) and me for not taking your 0 credibility statements as valuable stamps of trust.

You can laugh all you want at me but I think I posted some legitimate questions (which still have zero response) and make some good points which you seem to avoid.

I think of Bosscoin wants to gain any traction he'd better clear up things HERE. What he posts in his 6 active user community on his own site, doesn't do much.

[evershawn]

I was just going to say the same thing... the guy said he would take over bosscoin if this dev fails.. if he fucking got scammed by the coin why would he want to take over the development?

I believe what he said was 'help' develop an alt coin, I don't think he's a C programmer, I think he wanted to build and maintain web assets to support a coin.

So have you actually read this thread or just little bits and pieces here and there...

[evershawn]

I was waiting for the comment on creditability and yes I do have creditability.

I'm an IT Business Director here in the UK, you can find my company on companies house - http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcframe?name=accessCompanyInfo : Company No. 08717594

We are also listed on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wilkinson-Lee/556337121095974?ref=hl

I have nothing to hide about who I am and what I do, hence I don't sign up to sites like this as all I needed was info originally.

You clearly wear Red Tinted glasses and look at the world with one view, bosscoin doesn't have to post on every site that this douche is to prove he's innocent. The sheer fact that Bosscoin has posted on his own site, is enough and discredits this1guy straight out. After all this1guy has claimed Bosscoin has doe a runner and killed BSS and yet it's still up and running, we are still mining BSS and we all see the bullshit coming from this1guy all apart from you!!!

Hey, I'm not saying Bosscoin is guilty 100% pure fact no doubt about it. I said he's done little to prove he's not and that looks suspicious to me.

You on the other hand, some guy that just created an account are acting like you're 100% sure, willing to start a beef with me and start acting childish over it don't do a bit of good for his cause. You're making a mockery out of Bosscoin right now and just making yourself look bad.

The least you could do is acknowledge that it's possible the guy could have scammed him. The fact that you don't is why I don't trust you and think you're either a newly created alt account or an idiot fanboy.

I don't see any proof or really any details from Bosscoin on his site. He typed a dismissive paragraph basically acknowledging that he was the web developer and saying no, I didn't get any LTC... nothing else.

[Dark3nvy]

I was waiting for the comment on creditability and yes I do have creditability.

I'm an IT Business Director here in the UK, you can find my company on companies house - http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcframe?name=accessCompanyInfo : Company No. 08717594

We are also listed on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wilkinson-Lee/556337121095974?ref=hl

I have nothing to hide about who I am and what I do, hence I don't sign up to sites like this as all I needed was info originally.

You clearly wear Red Tinted glasses and look at the world with one view, bosscoin doesn't have to post on every site that this douche is to prove he's innocent. The sheer fact that Bosscoin has posted on his own site, is enough and discredits this1guy straight out. After all this1guy has claimed Bosscoin has doe a runner and killed BSS and yet it's still up and running, we are still mining BSS and we all see the bullshit coming from this1guy all apart from you!!!

Hey, I'm not saying Bosscoin is guilty 100% pure fact no doubt about it. I said he's done little to prove he's not and that looks suspicious to me.

You on the other hand, some guy that just created an account are acting like you're 100% sure, willing to start a beef with me and start acting childish over it don't do a bit of good for his cause. You're making a mockery out of Bosscoin right now and just making yourself look bad.

The least you could do is acknowledge that it's possible the guy could have scammed him. The fact that you don't is why I don't trust you and think you're either a newly created alt account for an idiot fanboy.

I don't see any proof or really any details from Bosscoin on his site. He typed a dismissive paragraph basically acknowledging that he was the web developer and saying no, I didn't get any LTC... nothing else.

I don't go around reading or listening to hearsay without their actually being any evidence and that's all it is is hearsay from someone who appears to be disgruntled over the fact he had a falling out with Bosscoin. As I said previously in one of my statements, If I was going to do what this guy has done I would have provided evidence from the onset and he hasn't.

Until evidence is provided I'm going to defend BSS, I'm not defending Bosscoin just pointing out facts.

The only ones who are making themselves look bad, are those of you who are jumping to the defence of this1guy over hearsay and discrediting BSS at the same time. As it stands we will continue to mine BBS like we do several other ALT's and if it's proven to be truthful then that will be the end of the matter.

[evershawn]

I don't go around reading or listening to hearsay without their actually being any evidence and that's all it is is hearsay from someone who appears to be disgruntled over the fact he had a falling out with Bosscoin. As I said previously in one of my statements, If I was going to do what this guy has done I would have provided evidence from the onset and he hasn't.

Until evidence is provided I'm going to defend BSS, I'm not defending Bosscoin just pointing out facts.

The only ones who are making themselves look bad, are those of you who are jumping to the defence of this1guy over hearsay and discrediting BSS at the same time. As it stands we will continue to mine BBS like we do several other ALT's and if it's proven to be truthful then that will be the end of the matter.

You believe who you choose to believe. You chose to believe Bosscoin because he posted with paragraph saying he didn't get any coin. He didn't post any sceenshots or any EVIDENCE this guy was blackmailing him, but you chose to believe that he is.

The hypocrisy is thick tonight.

I said I felt Bosscoin was suspect (as with most of the REPUTABLE people in this thread) because he was avoiding responding to it. Now that he has (at least on his own 5 user site), I find his response lacking and dismissive which is typical of someone who's running from something.

[Dark3nvy]

I don't go around reading or listening to hearsay without their actually being any evidence and that's all it is is hearsay from someone who appears to be disgruntled over the fact he had a falling out with Bosscoin. As I said previously in one of my statements, If I was going to do what this guy has done I would have provided evidence from the onset and he hasn't.

Until evidence is provided I'm going to defend BSS, I'm not defending Bosscoin just pointing out facts.

The only ones who are making themselves look bad, are those of you who are jumping to the defence of this1guy over hearsay and discrediting BSS at the same time. As it stands we will continue to mine BBS like we do several other ALT's and if it's proven to be truthful then that will be the end of the matter.

You believe who you choose to believe. You chose to believe Bosscoin because he posted with paragraph saying he didn't get any coin. He didn't post any sceenshots or any EVIDENCE this guy was blackmailing him, but you chose to believe that he is.

The hypocrisy is thick tonight.

I said I felt Bosscoin was suspect (as with most of the REPUTABLE people in this thread) because he was avoiding responding to it. Now that he has (at least on his own 5 user site), I find his response lacking and dismissive which is typical of someone who's running from something.

You've contradicted your own statement, as this1guy hasn't given us anything to believe him and yet you do and your willing to discredit BSS because of it. You appear to be very blind to facts over fiction and seem to be missing the point of what I'm trying to say.

this1guy has provided no evidence to support his case, just as Bosscoin hasn't.

Jesus if I responded like you have to my customers when we bid for contracts, I wouldn't have any contracts.

[evershawn]

You've contradicted your own statement, as this1guy hasn't given us anything to believe him and yet you do and your willing to discredit BSS because of it. You appear to be very blind to facts over fiction and seem to be missing the point of what I'm trying to say.

this1guy has provided no evidence to support his case, just as Bosscoin hasn't.

Jesus if I responded like you have to my customers when we bid for contracts, I wouldn't have any contracts.

I've contradicted nothing. I explained why I felt like I do and you on the other hand endorse Bosscoin wholeheartedly without a lick of supporting evidence from him proving what he says and you're here ridiculing us for sympathizing with this1dude and his claim to have been scammed by him. You are doing the exact same thing for Bosscoin but he's provided MUCH less of a defense than this1dude has done with his case.

You Mr. IT director are not very professional.

Let's just agree to disagree here, no need to continue this argument if you're not even going to address any of the points I've made or the questions I've asked. You're deflecting just as much as Bosscoin is.

[Dark3nvy]

You've contradicted your own statement, as this1guy hasn't given us anything to believe him and yet you do and your willing to discredit BSS because of it. You appear to be very blind to facts over fiction and seem to be missing the point of what I'm trying to say.

this1guy has provided no evidence to support his case, just as Bosscoin hasn't.

Jesus if I responded like you have to my customers when we bid for contracts, I wouldn't have any contracts.

I've contradicted nothing. I explained why I felt like I do and you on the other hand endorse Bosscoin wholeheartedly without a lick of supporting evidence from him proving what he says and you're here ridiculing us for sympathizing with this1dude and his claim to have been scammed by him. You are doing the exact same thing for Bosscoin but he's provided MUCH less of a defense than this1dude has done with his case.

You Mr. IT director are not very professional.

Let's just agree to disagree here, no need to continue this argument if you're not even going to address any of the points I've made or the questions I've asked. You're deflecting just as much as Bosscoin is.

I've addressed all your points, you have yet to address my point on why you are defending a guy who provides no evidence to support his claim bar some hearsay on his part.

It seems to me, that anyone can bad mouth any ALT and you will defend them without evidence. I'm just defending BSS as I've put a lot of time and effort in to mining and I'm not about to stop because of one persons fallout with another, especially when there is no supporting evidence from either party involved...

They call that being professional......

[this1dude]

Whoa lol didn't think this would spawn this discussion!  I'm banned from the forum and curious to see it copied and pasted on this thread, later I will post snippets of my gmail convo with the guy and transactions... fanboy with lots of hashpower hahahaha No jealousy at play just a 50LTC thief

[this1dude]

Aah so accusation is he didn't get coin?  Lol this is good.  Do you guys know how to get qn LTC transaction ID out of BTC-e?

[Dark3nvy]

Whoa lol didn't think this would spawn this discussion!  I'm banned from the forum and curious to see it copied and pasted on this thread, later I will post snippets of my gmail convo with the guy and transactions... fanboy with lots of hashpower hahahaha No jealousy at play just a 50LTC thief

lol, why not post what we are asking for IE: LTC transaction!!

And why not post it now and not later when you've had time to edit it!

And as per your request, though you can get around a ban if you know what your doing like you seem to think you do.

To clear things up, this guy had a issue with me regarding a website we were working on, after I disagreed to some stuff he pretty much told me he would blackmail me and do anything in his power to bring down bosscoin. I will not tell you who to believe but it's pretty simple, he got mad at me then decided to mess up the main website and then go spread FUD about the coin. I hope people know this coin is legit and will continue to stick around, If I had something to hide this forum would not be up.

PS. He never sent me any coins, that is a bunch of garbage again to make me look bad

Boss

[this1dude]

I was just going to say the same thing... the guy said he would take over bosscoin if this dev fails.. if he fucking got scammed by the coin why would he want to take over the development?

Simple, I like the coin's name, and would consider taking over its development if it were to die. 

[oasis0]

I was just going to say the same thing... the guy said he would take over bosscoin if this dev fails.. if he fucking got scammed by the coin why would he want to take over the development?

Simple, I like the coin's name, and would consider taking over its development if it were to die. 

why if you got scammed? makes no sense to me

[Dark3nvy]

I was just going to say the same thing... the guy said he would take over bosscoin if this dev fails.. if he fucking got scammed by the coin why would he want to take over the development?

Simple, I like the coin's name, and would consider taking over its development if it were to die. 

why if you got scammed? makes no sense to me

+1

[this1dude]

There have been previous successful coin rebirths before.  It would be a complete overhaul from the ground up.  And yes, I absolutely got scammed.

[Amph]

"bosscoin- do not waste your time"
"this1dude- waste your time"

[this1dude]

"bosscoin- do not waste your time"
"this1dude- waste your time"

? Concerted effort to discredit the guy who promoted BSS?  I too have mined it for a week!

[Dark3nvy]

You have yet to prove that you have been scammed and this makes me suspicious of you.

Lack of evidence = NO TRUST

[BitcoinTate]

You have yet to prove that you have been scammed and this makes me suspicious of you.

Lack of evidence = NO TRUST

I mined that shit for 3 hours... which was over 3 hours too long. Anyone want a few thousand Boss Tardo coin?

[this1dude]

Whoa lol didn't think this would spawn this discussion!  I'm banned from the forum and curious to see it copied and pasted on this thread, later I will post snippets of my gmail convo with the guy and transactions... fanboy with lots of hashpower hahahaha No jealousy at play just a 50LTC thief

lol, why not post what we are asking for IE: LTC transaction!!

And why not post it now and not later when you've had time to edit it!

And as per your request, though you can get around a ban if you know what your doing like you seem to think you do.

To clear things up, this guy had a issue with me regarding a website we were working on, after I disagreed to some stuff he pretty much told me he would blackmail me and do anything in his power to bring down bosscoin. I will not tell you who to believe but it's pretty simple, he got mad at me then decided to mess up the main website and then go spread FUD about the coin. I hope people know this coin is legit and will continue to stick around, If I had something to hide this forum would not be up.

PS. He never sent me any coins, that is a bunch of garbage again to make me look bad

Boss

Dude and anyone else who's defending BossCoin -- all I can say is good luck.  I didn't think yesterday I'd find myself in this position, attempting to defend what really happened...  Getting around the ban I could have done easily, but I was on my phone, just got to a PC and was curious to see his explanation.

So -- his explanation up there, about there being an issue with the web site is absolute nonsense and a lie.  The way things went is I was on the bosscoin forum and asked him if I can help with his site.  He loved everything I've done, and I took and ran with it.. you can see my postings all the way up to Friday night in all of the langugages, translating and promoting BossCoin to the masses as much as I could.  So... I guess it's a he says (crook with fanboys still mining BSS) and he says (honest hardworking dude that got scammed that fanboys want to eat alive to keep BSS up).

Now, in order to defend myself, at least on here, I have to make a bit of a fool of myself and admit to how I absolutely overlooked what the total amount of BSS blocks (and therefore coins) was in circulation.  It was ignorant of me, and the DEV never attempted to correct my lack of this knowledge.  On Friday, I offered to the DEV (and yes, you can start laughing at me now) -- 50LTC in exchange for 800k BSS -- while (and I learned this later) there were only about 500k BSS generated at the time.  

Here is a snipped from my BTCe LTC trading history.  If anyone knows how I can derive more details on the transaction, I'm all ears and will paste it here:








  

[this1dude]

oh, and it's Sunday, and I have quite a few things to get done so I won't be on here, will check back in a few hours though...

hey -- I believed in this thing, got scammed by the DEV and wanted to make the community aware who's behind the coin, is all.

and Bosscoin, if you're listening - and want to clear the air and your name, please, refund the 50LTC and I'll post that transaction up here too

[evershawn]

 I hear nothing but crickets from the fanboys now...

LOL, thanks for posting that, I figured you would.

[BitcoinTate]

oh, and it's Sunday, and I have quite a few things to get done so I won't be on here, will check back in a few hours though...

hey -- I believed in this thing, got scammed by the DEV and wanted to make the community aware who's behind the coin, is all.

and Bosscoin, if you're listening - and want to clear the air and your name, please, refund the 50LTC and I'll post that transaction up here too

Why do you believe in this coin still?

[evershawn]

Why do you believe in this coin still?

He doesn't, he was speaking in past tense before the dev of it proved to be a scumbag.

[Dark3nvy]

I hear nothing but crickets from the fanboys now...

LOL, thanks for posting that, I figured you would.

I'm not making comment as of yet, for the sheer fact I've just posted it to bosscointalk to see what the response is now from Bosscoin.

Evidence has now been provided, which also means I've stopped mining it and await the response from bosscoin.

This should have been provided in the first instance, rather than posting up a load of shit without evidence and the discussion wouldn't have gone the way it did.

I wanted evidence, it's provided now I wait..

[this1dude]

oh, and it's Sunday, and I have quite a few things to get done so I won't be on here, will check back in a few hours though...

hey -- I believed in this thing, got scammed by the DEV and wanted to make the community aware who's behind the coin, is all.

and Bosscoin, if you're listening - and want to clear the air and your name, please, refund the 50LTC and I'll post that transaction up here too

Why do you believe in this coin still?

I don't personally, but if it in its current incarnation has taken a life of its own and miners refuse to move away from it
1) I must have done a good job with the site and promoting it since BossCoin himself has done very little to at least on sites like this
2) The existing net hash rate of about 17MH/s is produced by miners who aren't aware of who's behind the coin, yet
3) If BossCoin were to return my LTC money, the chance of #1 succeeding, if he wants it to succeed, will be higher.  

[slavo]

Oh and it won't be an easy decision to share his real identity with the masses.  Who here thinks I should? 

Reveal his identity would be stupid. It's a story between u 2. Being anonymous is a right.

U maybe get scammed, but it's your fault. Take time to advertise people not to be scammed would be smarter than giving his fucking name.

cheers

[this1dude]

Oh and it won't be an easy decision to share his real identity with the masses.  Who here thinks I should?  

Reveal his identity would be stupid. It's a story between u 2. Being anonymous is a right.

U maybe get scammed, but it's your fault. Take time to advertise people not to be scammed would be smarter than giving his fucking name.

cheers

That's the whole purpose behind this topic, is to warn others.  I don't know the guy's real life identity Though he didn't deny my guess about who he is.  Still, I respect his anonymity -- This is why I redacted our email addresses from our conversations.  And you are right, I was naive...

[this1dude]

P.S. for those with vested interest in BossCoin following this thread - if you convince the dev to return my 50LTC the project may still have a chance of surviving.  50LTC is a lot less than BSS' potential value, with a few tweaks and active development. 

[Dark3nvy]

I'm going to add some more to this, as I'm getting suspicious of you yet again and questioning your evidence as provided.

The first thing I want to question is the following quote.

"crypto doctor"
google's your friend

Yes Google is your friend, but your information doesn't seem to add up. As you've been "Emailing" this person, the first thing I've done is check G+ and this is what I found.

http://s14.postimg.org/q8eyhf5sx/cryptdr.png

I've not found anyone called "Doctor Crypto" (I am aware it says Doc Crypto, but keep reading flamers), so that's the first bit of information that doesn't seem to match. You see G+ when emailing, links your G+ account name with your Gmail address and so the emails should have the header of "Doc Crypto" & not "doctor crypto" otherwise the G+ account would say "doctor crypto" (Yes I am aware he may have and I say may have changed it, but it's not yet solid evidence). The name would also appear as it is on the account IE: The name in the image would display as it is "Doc Crypto" with capitals and not lower case.

Also when you email in Gmail, the email address is displayed next to the profile name and yet I don't see this blocked out by you.

http://s14.postimg.org/nnwt9zg9t/cryptdr_2.png

If you wouldn't mind, could you please PM me the email address as I can check this against accounts being a Google business customer.

Now the next thing that I question is the LTC address, so checked this out as well and it seems very strange that only 3 transactions have been made on that account overall for LTC.

http://s24.postimg.org/m46jlmn85/cryptdr_1.png

http://block-explorer.com/address/Li4M2ty6ytRHwczHshtVBMmqA8pGxdu3qL

I've also checked yours: http://block-explorer.com/address/LSitcdX2t8DzeHsaFKceUouSMonx1aJRE7

Now I'm even more suspicious of you both, but more so towards you as certain things you've posted don't add up.

[this1dude]

I'm going to add some more to this, as I'm getting suspicious of you yet again and questioning your evidence as provided.

The first thing I want to question is the following quote.

"crypto doctor"
google's your friend

Yes Google is your friend, but your information doesn't seem to add up. As you've been "Emailing" this person, the first thing I've done is check G+ and this is what I found.



I've not found anyone called "Doctor Crypto" (I am aware it says Doc Crypto, but keep reading flamers), so that's the first bit of information that doesn't seem to match. You see G+ when emailing, links your G+ account name with your Gmail address and so the emails should have the header of "Doc Crypto" & not "doctor crypto" otherwise the G+ account would say "doctor crypto" (Yes I am aware he may have and I say may have changed it, but it's not yet solid evidence). The name would also appear as it is on the account IE: The name in the image would display as it is "Doc Crypto" with capitals and not lower case.

Also when you email in Gmail, the email address is displayed next to the profile name and yet I don't see this blocked out by you.

If you wouldn't mind, could you please PM me the email address as I can check this against accounts being a Google business customer.

Now the next thing that I question is the LTC address, so checked this out as well and it seems very strange that only 3 transactions have been made on that account overall for LTC.



http://block-explorer.com/address/Li4M2ty6ytRHwczHshtVBMmqA8pGxdu3qL

I've also checked yours: http://block-explorer.com/address/LSitcdX2t8DzeHsaFKceUouSMonx1aJRE7

Now I'm even more suspicious of you both, but more so towards you as certain things you've posted don't add up.

dude, whatever -- you stick to your guns and do your thing.  Lies have been told and have been proved as far as I can tell... I just don't have time to take all of this apart.  I provided as much detail as I could...  He promised to send me an amount of BSS that didn't exist, and yesterday morning told me he made the transfer.  Nothing showed up in unconfirmed and I gave him 60 minutes to either return the LTC I sent to his address or some sort of an explanation. 

I don't want to cross any further lines and will not be intimidated to provide his e-mail address for any other purpose.  Let BossCoin defend himself.

[this1dude]

I'm going to add some more to this, as I'm getting suspicious of you yet again and questioning your evidence as provided.

The first thing I want to question is the following quote.

"crypto doctor"
google's your friend

Yes Google is your friend, but your information doesn't seem to add up. As you've been "Emailing" this person, the first thing I've done is check G+ and this is what I found.



I've not found anyone called "Doctor Crypto" (I am aware it says Doc Crypto, but keep reading flamers), so that's the first bit of information that doesn't seem to match. You see G+ when emailing, links your G+ account name with your Gmail address and so the emails should have the header of "Doc Crypto" & not "doctor crypto" otherwise the G+ account would say "doctor crypto" (Yes I am aware he may have and I say may have changed it, but it's not yet solid evidence). The name would also appear as it is on the account IE: The name in the image would display as it is "Doc Crypto" with capitals and not lower case.

Also when you email in Gmail, the email address is displayed next to the profile name and yet I don't see this blocked out by you.

If you wouldn't mind, could you please PM me the email address as I can check this against accounts being a Google business customer.

Now the next thing that I question is the LTC address, so checked this out as well and it seems very strange that only 3 transactions have been made on that account overall for LTC.



http://block-explorer.com/address/Li4M2ty6ytRHwczHshtVBMmqA8pGxdu3qL

I've also checked yours: http://block-explorer.com/address/LSitcdX2t8DzeHsaFKceUouSMonx1aJRE7

Now I'm even more suspicious of you both, but more so towards you as certain things you've posted don't add up.

dude, whatever -- you stick to your guns and do your thing.  Lies have been told and have been proved as far as I can tell... I just don't have time to take all of this apart.  I provided as much detail as I could...  He promised to send me an amount of BSS that didn't exist, and yesterday morning told me he made the transfer.  Nothing showed up in unconfirmed and I gave him 60 minutes to either return the LTC I sent to his address or some sort of an explanation. 

I don't want to cross any further lines and will not be intimidated to provide his e-mail address for any other purpose.  Let BossCoin defend himself.

So you don't see a correlation of 50LTC transaction sent into this address?  As far as your google+ 'research'... all I can tell is that this was the guy's display name... I'm also a business google apps customer BTW...  just let it go already man, you are wasting your time on this, though it is impressive that you'd go this far to try and prove some nonexistent points.  What, you want me to go to BTC-e now and have them prepare an official letter, that this account sent this amount to this LTC address on this date and time?  and go to google as if I was the NSA to ask them to stamp my email communication as being legitimate? 

[Dark3nvy]

Now you've made me even more suspicious of you, now that you know I can check Gmail accounts through my business account and you won't provide it.

Provide it to me via pm and I can prove or disprove what your saying as being correct.

You seem to be reading what I put wrong, as it clearly shows the transaction to that address. I'm suspicious of the fact that address has only ever had 3 transactions into it and in less than 14 days.

And they call it protecting an investment and that's what I'm doing, protecting our business investment into BSS.

[this1dude]

Now you've made me even more suspicious of you, now that you know I can check Gmail accounts through my business account and you won't provide it.

Provide it to me via pm and I can prove or disprove what your saying as being correct.

Dark3nvy --- since I'm not very familiar with law, I will not cross that line, like I said.  The guy's a scumbag, but he's entitled to privacy.  If there had been such a thing as crypto police -- they'd have everything I've got on him.  You're not it though.

[Dark3nvy]

Now you've made me even more suspicious of you, now that you know I can check Gmail accounts through my business account and you won't provide it.

Provide it to me via pm and I can prove or disprove what your saying as being correct.

Dark3nvy --- since I'm not very familiar with law, I will not cross that line, like I said.  The guy's a scumbag, but he's entitled to privacy.  If there had been such a thing as crypto police -- they'd have everything I've got on him.  You're not it though.

An email address doesn't constitute as personal data and so not protected by law, the same way an IP address isn't.

[evershawn]

What's interesting is: Dark3nvy posted this thread on bosscoin's forum asking for a response and rather than reply to it he simply deleted the thread but dark3nvy still comes back here slamming that1dude... /sigh

[Dark3nvy]

What's interesting is: Dark3nvy posted this thread on bosscoin's forum asking for a response and rather than reply to it he simply deleted the thread but dark3nvy still comes back here slamming that1dude... /sigh

Of course I will and it's not been deleted, but rather moved to a section not directly visible by normal forum members.

Your still going to defend "that1dude" and your still going to be a dick about it, I've posted evidence to contradict everything that1dude has posted and proven it to be fake. Nothing else now needs to be done on this matter, as in my eyes the matter for me is now resolved and I'm going to continue to mine BSS like everyone else. BSS isn't dead and will continue on, this whole saga from that1dude is rather petty with what I know and have now seen. You might actually want to ask that1dude why he wanted several thousands of BSS for a small amount of LTC, knowing that BSS is taking off and might end up with more value than LTC, which by the way he was told no chance and is one of the many reason's he's doing this!

Open your eyes and see the truth, rather than the bullshit coming from that1dude.

[Hazard]

If you think bosscoin has a future, then I have a wonderful piece of beachfront property in Ohio for sale, just for you.

[this1dude]

If you think bosscoin has a future, then I have a wonderful piece of beachfront property in Ohio for sale, just for you.

This!   

[this1dude]

What's interesting is: Dark3nvy posted this thread on bosscoin's forum asking for a response and rather than reply to it he simply deleted the thread but dark3nvy still comes back here slamming that1dude... /sigh

Of course I will and it's not been deleted, but rather moved to a section not directly visible by normal forum members.

Your still going to defend "that1dude" and your still going to be a dick about it, I've posted evidence to contradict everything that1dude has posted and proven it to be fake. Nothing else now needs to be done on this matter, as in my eyes the matter for me is now resolved and I'm going to continue to mine BSS like everyone else. BSS isn't dead and will continue on, this whole saga from that1dude is rather petty with what I know and have now seen. You might actually want to ask that1dude why he wanted several thousands of BSS for a small amount of LTC, knowing that BSS is taking off and might end up with more value than LTC, which by the way he was told no chance and is one of the many reason's he's doing this!

Open your eyes and see the truth, rather than the bullshit coming from that1dude.

Go and play with your cola 5k bss giveaways at bosscointalk.org haha... you've proven absolutely nothing other than you'll do anything to discredit truth, just because you invested a few days of electricity into mining BSS...  dude, I spent almost a whole week, developing the site, promoting BSS, translating things, looking for people to collaborate with, mining it, and at the end to top it off had 50LTC stolen from me by its founder -- and I'm willing to give up my own BSS stash for nothing since I know the coin is backed by a thief.  

[this1dude]

BTW -- why would you stand behind a coin whose own DEV used a guy (me) to build the site, get graphics, get people involved, promote it etc, for a week, and then he's willing to have the whole project scrapped to make an easy 50LTC that he refuses to acknowledge he has stolen and won't return?  This isn't hearsay, it's what it was.  Accept reality.  BossCoin may be alive in your little world, but the community here is intelligent enough to distinguish truth from "fanboyism."

[Dark3nvy]

What's interesting is: Dark3nvy posted this thread on bosscoin's forum asking for a response and rather than reply to it he simply deleted the thread but dark3nvy still comes back here slamming that1dude... /sigh

Of course I will and it's not been deleted, but rather moved to a section not directly visible by normal forum members.

Your still going to defend "that1dude" and your still going to be a dick about it, I've posted evidence to contradict everything that1dude has posted and proven it to be fake. Nothing else now needs to be done on this matter, as in my eyes the matter for me is now resolved and I'm going to continue to mine BSS like everyone else. BSS isn't dead and will continue on, this whole saga from that1dude is rather petty with what I know and have now seen. You might actually want to ask that1dude why he wanted several thousands of BSS for a small amount of LTC, knowing that BSS is taking off and might end up with more value than LTC, which by the way he was told no chance and is one of the many reason's he's doing this!

Open your eyes and see the truth, rather than the bullshit coming from that1dude.

Go and play with your cola 5k bss giveaways at bosscointalk.org haha... you've proven absolutely nothing other than you'll do anything to discredit truth, just because you invested a few days of electricity into mining BSS...  dude, I spent almost a whole week, developing the site, promoting BSS, translating things, looking for people to collaborate with, mining it, and at the end to top it off had 50LTC stolen from me by its founder -- and I'm willing to give up my own BSS stash for nothing since I know the coin is backed by a thief.  

Come on really, you still going to spread your BS.

People are blind to see what your doing and why your doing it, it's only been a scam coin to you because you say you've lost (Sorry had stolen) 50 LTC.

Yet the LTC wallet you sent it too, is not even 2 weeks old

I've lost nothing and no one else has, so how can it be a scam. I've also not bought BSS for $$$, so yet again not been scammed. You might want to learn what a scam is, as it only appears to be you that's the victim so you say.

If you guys want to carry on reading this bull, when he's been proven on more than one occasion to be an idiot that's spat his dummy out, then more fool you. But I know what I need to know and seen what I needed to see and won't believe a single thing that comes out of that1dude's mouth. I've dis-credited all of what he has said, you decide what you want to believe.

Oh and by the way that1dude, you are protected by certain laws that cover the digital world. I'll let you find out which one will help you if you think you have a case, not going to help out a douche with a problem!!!

[this1dude]

What's interesting is: Dark3nvy posted this thread on bosscoin's forum asking for a response and rather than reply to it he simply deleted the thread but dark3nvy still comes back here slamming that1dude... /sigh

Of course I will and it's not been deleted, but rather moved to a section not directly visible by normal forum members.

Your still going to defend "that1dude" and your still going to be a dick about it, I've posted evidence to contradict everything that1dude has posted and proven it to be fake. Nothing else now needs to be done on this matter, as in my eyes the matter for me is now resolved and I'm going to continue to mine BSS like everyone else. BSS isn't dead and will continue on, this whole saga from that1dude is rather petty with what I know and have now seen. You might actually want to ask that1dude why he wanted several thousands of BSS for a small amount of LTC, knowing that BSS is taking off and might end up with more value than LTC, which by the way he was told no chance and is one of the many reason's he's doing this!

Open your eyes and see the truth, rather than the bullshit coming from that1dude.

Go and play with your cola 5k bss giveaways at bosscointalk.org haha... you've proven absolutely nothing other than you'll do anything to discredit truth, just because you invested a few days of electricity into mining BSS...  dude, I spent almost a whole week, developing the site, promoting BSS, translating things, looking for people to collaborate with, mining it, and at the end to top it off had 50LTC stolen from me by its founder -- and I'm willing to give up my own BSS stash for nothing since I know the coin is backed by a thief.  

Come on really, you still going to spread your BS.

People are blind to see what your doing and why your doing it, it's only been a scam coin to you because you say you've lost (Sorry had stolen) 50 LTC.

Yet the LTC wallet you sent it too, is not even 2 weeks old

I've lost nothing and no one else has, so how can it be a scam. I've also not bought BSS for $$$, so yet again not been scammed. You might want to learn what a scam is, as it only appears to be you that's the victim so you say.

If you guys want to carry on reading this bull, when he's been proven on more than one occasion to be an idiot that's spat his dummy out, then more fool you. But I know what I need to know and seen what I needed to see and won't believe a single thing that comes out of that1dude's mouth. I've dis-credited all of what he has said, you decide what you want to believe.

Oh and by the way that1dude, you are protected by certain laws that cover the digital world. I'll let you find out which one will help you if you think you have a case, not going to help out a douche with a problem!!!

Sure, just resort to name calling.  I won't be pursuing this any further, 50ltc is gone and not worth my time.  I don't have time to take apart your skewed logic or "proof"... hell if I was to use your reasoning techniques I'd say you photoshopped something lol. I'm done with this BS, BSS and your naive ass.  My part's done here warning the BTCT community about what went on in the first week of BSS and its founder.  Do with it what you may.

[this1dude]

What's interesting is: Dark3nvy posted this thread on bosscoin's forum asking for a response and rather than reply to it he simply deleted the thread but dark3nvy still comes back here slamming that1dude... /sigh

Of course I will and it's not been deleted, but rather moved to a section not directly visible by normal forum members.

Your still going to defend "that1dude" and your still going to be a dick about it, I've posted evidence to contradict everything that1dude has posted and proven it to be fake. Nothing else now needs to be done on this matter, as in my eyes the matter for me is now resolved and I'm going to continue to mine BSS like everyone else. BSS isn't dead and will continue on, this whole saga from that1dude is rather petty with what I know and have now seen. You might actually want to ask that1dude why he wanted several thousands of BSS for a small amount of LTC, knowing that BSS is taking off and might end up with more value than LTC, which by the way he was told no chance and is one of the many reason's he's doing this!

Open your eyes and see the truth, rather than the bullshit coming from that1dude.

Go and play with your cola 5k bss giveaways at bosscointalk.org haha... you've proven absolutely nothing other than you'll do anything to discredit truth, just because you invested a few days of electricity into mining BSS...  dude, I spent almost a whole week, developing the site, promoting BSS, translating things, looking for people to collaborate with, mining it, and at the end to top it off had 50LTC stolen from me by its founder -- and I'm willing to give up my own BSS stash for nothing since I know the coin is backed by a thief.  

Come on really, you still going to spread your BS.

People are blind to see what your doing and why your doing it, it's only been a scam coin to you because you say you've lost (Sorry had stolen) 50 LTC.

Yet the LTC wallet you sent it too, is not even 2 weeks old

I've lost nothing and no one else has, so how can it be a scam. I've also not bought BSS for $$$, so yet again not been scammed. You might want to learn what a scam is, as it only appears to be you that's the victim so you say.

If you guys want to carry on reading this bull, when he's been proven on more than one occasion to be an idiot that's spat his dummy out, then more fool you. But I know what I need to know and seen what I needed to see and won't believe a single thing that comes out of that1dude's mouth. I've dis-credited all of what he has said, you decide what you want to believe.

Oh and by the way that1dude, you are protected by certain laws that cover the digital world. I'll let you find out which one will help you if you think you have a case, not going to help out a douche with a problem!!!

Just to rewind a little bit -- look at my posts up until Friday night... you'll see I was doing everything that you are doing today -- namely defending BSS and promoting the shit out of it, because I believed in its potential and wanted to see where it can be taken.  What do you think my agenda is today?  Do you think I'd come up with an elaborate plan, and have gmail conversation snippets copied, pasted and ready for when more evidence is sought by a BSS fanboy? 

I sort of understand where you're coming from -- meaning, maybe you wish you hadn't bought some BSS and you'd like to recoup your losses... maybe you're happy you were one of the first to get in; maybe you liked the updated logo I had my own brother design for BSS, or some of the coin's non-valuable highlights I had to come up with on the front page, to make it look more appealing?  Hell, maybe crypto doctor sent you some LTC from the 50LTC he stole from me, to be his P.R. front / manager sort of thing until you get fucked over by him too? 

Think about it dude -- I'm not smearing anyone for no reason.  50LTC was stolen from me and not returned by the founder of BossCoin.  So go ahead and try your pump and dump schemes, but we wary, the guy will steal from you the first chance he gets.

[Dark3nvy]

Is that the best you can say, it's not name calling but rather describing you.

a word to describe an individual who has shown themself to be very brainless in one way or another, thus comparing them to the cleansing product for vaginas

Are you really that dumb, I've not bought into BSS (and I've stated this) and never will. Just like I won't buy into any other form of Crypto currency. I'm not stupid enough to buy into something that actually has no monetary value and could collapse at any moment. However I do mine and if I make money from what I mine, then I'm $$$$$ from nothing. I'm not loosing anything from what I'm making, not even the wattage from the rigs that are built. You are clearly an individual who has a problem with with the owner of BSS and even tried to scam him yourself, you've fallen on your arse and now your moaning and complaining about it. You've had you so called evidence dis-credited more than once and yet here you are still trying to get your point across. There is a saying in my country, he who does protest is the guilty party and you seem to be doing a lot of that of something that means nothing.

I can easily do what you have done and provide the evidence that you've provided, you've slipped up with some of it as it's clearly fake and I've pointed out why it is and yet your still going on about it and trying to make it out to be what it's not. The only thing I can really say to you, is give up your one man crusade it's over and you've lost and admit defeat. I've told you how you can prove and I've told you how you can resolve it, you know as well as I do that you won't because you don't want people to see the truth. You've contradicted yourself and you've proven nothing in the process.....

If your so passionate about destroying BSS, then you would have given me the email address to prove your right and yet you won't. Why won't you, because you know that the email in the snippets have nothing to do with BSS. Just like the email header in your snippets are wrong and not laid out correctly, in the context as designed by Google. Just like the LTC account that doesn't fit the purpose of what your trying to say, or even the transactions that are traced from that account. It's all there in black and white that you are lying and yet you don't dis-credit anything that I'v investigated and why is that, because you know I know your lying.

Your a tool simple as, your plan hasn't worked and it's backfired on you.

I'm also not a fanboy of BSS, but rather I have a vested interest in seeing the coin work as I do the many others that we mine. You may call me a "Crypto Fanboy" if you wish, as I follow a lot.

[this1dude]

Is that the best you can say, it's not name calling but rather describing you.

a word to describe an individual who has shown themself to be very brainless in one way or another, thus comparing them to the cleansing product for vaginas

Bravo!  Feel better?  Enjoy ... lol

[this1dude]

Is that the best you can say, it's not name calling but rather describing you.

a word to describe an individual who has shown themself to be very brainless in one way or another, thus comparing them to the cleansing product for vaginas

Are you really that dumb, I've not bought into BSS (and I've stated this) and never will. Just like I won't buy into any other form of Crypto currency. I'm not stupid enough to buy into something that actually has no monetary value and could collapse at any moment. However I do mine and if I make money from what I mine, then I'm $$$$$ from nothing. I'm not loosing anything from what I'm making, not even the wattage from the rigs that are built. You are clearly an individual who has a problem with with the owner of BSS and even tried to scam him yourself, you've fallen on your arse and now your moaning and complaining about it. You've had you so called evidence dis-credited more than once and yet here you are still trying to get your point across. There is a saying in my country, he who does protest is the guilty party and you seem to be doing a lot of that of something that means nothing.

I can easily do what you have done and provide the evidence that you've provided, you've slipped up with some of it as it's clearly fake and I've pointed out why it is and yet your still going on about it and trying to make it out to be what it's not. The only thing I can really say to you, is give up your one man crusade it's over and you've lost and admit defeat. I've told you how you can prove and I've told you how you can resolve it, you know as well as I do that you won't because you don't want people to see the truth. You've contradicted yourself and you've proven nothing in the process.....

If your so passionate about destroying BSS, then you would have given me the email address to prove your right and yet you won't. Why won't you, because you know that the email in the snippets have nothing to do with BSS. Just like the email header in your snippets are wrong and not laid out correctly, in the context as designed by Google. Just like the LTC account that doesn't fit the purpose of what your trying to say, or even the transactions that are traced from that account. It's all there in black and white that you are lying and yet you don't dis-credit anything that I'v investigated and why is that, because you know I know your lying.

Your a tool simple as, your plan hasn't worked and it's backfired on you.

I'm also not a fanboy of BSS, but rather I have a vested interest in seeing the coin work as I do the many others that we mine. You may call me a "Crypto Fanboy" if you wish, as I follow a lot.

Whoa, I just read this... somehow I missed it.  You are seriously taking this personally and taking your time to make some sort of a point.  Listen dude, if there are others reading this forum who are experts on forensics and know the inner workings of storing and sending coins out of exchanges rather than a wallet, please offer your help here to explain whatever inconsistency Mr. Dark Envy is trying to prove.  Anything I would say to try and speak of the screenshots he pulled up, or doctored, or whatever would just be a guess. 

All I know is I didn't make shit up, and I should, in theory be on the winning side if justice was to prevail in this crypto world and on this forum. 

Oh, and I've been meaning to mention that the fact that crypto doctor's LTC address is young means absolutely nothing, is speculation, moot point at best -- you can create an address in an exchange or in your wallet anytime...   

If someone wants to take a stab at helping to figure this out, post here.

Otherwise, Dark Envy -- AFAIK, there is no verification one way or the other that what you are posting here is credible, or proves, or disproves the fact that I had sent 50LTC to the LTC address that crypto doctor had sent me for an exchange in BSS Coins, which never arrived at my end.  I gave him an opportunity to send a refund and he went mute.  Thus this conversation.  End of story.

[this1dude]

Hey, hmm, this one looks pretty doctored too, doesn't it?  SMH lol

[this1dude]

I hear crickets again... lol  Being on the side of truth & justice, despite being victimized is FUN 

[this1dude]

oh and for anyone reading this and wondering what I'm still doing posting here...

this whole tirade is for no other purpose than to let you know that if you are mining BossCoins (BSS), you should know that you will ultimately be benefiting the coin's founder, who is a crook, thief and a liar...  plenty of other coins to choose from to support

I'm 100% in SBC StableCoin now and actively watching others.

P.S. If you'd like to work with me to develop a new currency that actually sets itself apart from others, LMK, pm me.  Thanks

[Dark3nvy]

I hear crickets again... lol  Being on the side of truth & justice, despite being victimized is FUN 

No you don't hear crickets, you hear the sound of ZZZZZZZZZ seeing as many of us come from all over the world and time frames vary.

You really are an arrogant little shit aren't you!

You lay claim to being an IT guy on Crypto and yet you don't know the fundamentals around digital law, which by the way anyone who works in the IT industry whether it be in the UK, US or Asia has to conform to an industry standard. That standard is called ITIL, which covers certain aspects in relation to handling certain information. Now I put this to you as you claim to be in IT and as I'm an IT Director, that the email address for said emails will only be used to check and confirm your information. I can't by law go back on that, as it would fall under the Data Protection Act 1998 here in the UK. So if I was to do anything other than stated, I would be fined a lot of money for it. My company information has been posted on this topic, so if I go back on my word you have every right to raise a complaint through the ICC here in the UK.

Lets put an end to this once and for all, PM me the email address as requested. I will do the necessary checks that I need to, in order to check the validity of your claim and will post my findings here. It's the only way your going to shut me up, as I find both of you very suspicious and trust nether of you with the information provided.

Also please don't refer to me as dude, as you sound like an 80's throw back.

[this1dude]

I hear crickets again... lol  Being on the side of truth & justice, despite being victimized is FUN 

No you don't hear crickets, you hear the sound of ZZZZZZZZZ seeing as many of us come from all over the world and time frames vary.

You really are an arrogant little shit aren't you!

You lay claim to being an IT guy on Crypto and yet you don't know the fundamentals around digital law, which by the way anyone who works in the IT industry whether it be in the UK, US or Asia has to conform to an industry standard. That standard is called ITIL, which covers certain aspects in relation to handling certain information. Now I put this to you as you claim to be in IT and as I'm an IT Director, that the email address for said emails will only be used to check and confirm your information. I can't by law go back on that, as it would fall under the Data Protection Act 1998 here in the UK. So if I was to do anything other than stated, I would be fined a lot of money for it. My company information has been posted on this topic, so if I go back on my word you have every right to raise a complaint through the ICC here in the UK.

Lets put an end to this once and for all, PM me the email address as requested. I will do the necessary checks that I need to, in order to check the validity of your claim and will post my findings here. It's the only way your going to shut me up, as I find both of you very suspicious and trust nether of you with the information provided.

Also please don't refer to me as dude, as you sound like an 80's throw back.

I'll give you credit for sleep. That's important.    You asked me to PM you, so we can connect.  Done.  Will await your response.

[syrusek]

[this1dude]

Free entertainment... tips are encouraged, however and maybe I can get back some of my stolen LTC?

[Dark3nvy]

Ok lets get the ball rolling on this shall we.

The first thing that I would like to do, is retract everything that I've said towards this1dude as we have been working together this afternoon and made some shocking revelations.

I've been working very closely with this1dude, as a lot of things didn't fit or seem to be right on both sides. this1dude has provided me with a lot information, which has now given me a basis to write this response.

Now I've made my decision with regards to BSS and from this point will not be mining it now or in the near future, this isn't because of what has happened to this1dude and the loss of 50LTC but does encompass into my investigation and my findings. As an IT engineer and now Director, I used to investigate certain aspects into companies claims for warranty and insurance and determine if what was stated was correct. This is the reason why I've responded the way I have and also the reason I won't buy into Crypto Currencies.

Thanks to this1dude and his cooperation, it has become very clear to me that BSS is not all what it seems from the onset and it's been good working with him.

I've looked at everything in regards to BSS, it's origins to where it is now and what I have found is very alarming.

I've traced BSS from - 89.200.140.78 | United Kingdom | England | London | Bskyb Broadband (This is the original location of BSS) to it's now current location in Clarks Summit USA IE: Volumedrive Data Center

I've also traced all the email headers from the original email, to the recent emails from doctor crypto and my findings are very shocking to say the least. In the original email, it is clearly marked from one person and this person is also involved in many other projects based around Crypto Currencies. Unfortunately by my own countries laws and regulations I'm not allowed to pass on this persons information, but I'm sure once he has read this he will know that I also know and I care for him to dispute what I'm saying but be warned he should I am watching his activities. The same person is also known by various different names in the world of Crypto Currencies, including several on this site and not just Bosscoin and urge moderators & admins of this site to IP check the Bosscoin account against others based here and mark them as is.

I however don't believe that this is the work of just one person either, as the location of the BSS servers from the UK to the USA and the connections between each would suggest more than one person involved, though it may only be one person involved in the theft of LTC from this1dude. However it doesn't lay to the fact if more than one is involved, why the other is not pushing for this matter to be resolved.

Now the information that I can pass on to anyone reading this, which is not protected by law is the following.

If you wish to trace the information partly on what I have, I would suggest you look into the several URL address linked to BSS and I'm not just talking about bosscoin.org or bosscointalk.org either. You will have to dig very deep into what I have found and come to the same conclusion as I have, as the person/s running BSS have done very well to hide their steps from being traced. Unfortunately for them, I know what to look for, who to contact and how to trace what I needed too. You will also find other things they are linked to and make your own assumptions from that.

So with that said, BSS will no longer be mined from me or my business and my apologies to this1dude and thank you for your help.

I would also urge others to think twice and investigate before going into this, as it smells like kippers and appears to be kippers. I also await the response from Bosscoin or one of his many alts.

[this1dude]

Ok lets get the ball rolling on this shall we.

The first thing that I would like to do, is retract everything that I've said towards this1dude as we have been working together this afternoon and made some shocking revelations.

I've been working very closely with this1dude, as a lot of things didn't fit or seem to be right on both sides. this1dude has provided me with a lot information, which has now given me a basis to write this response.

Now I've made my decision with regards to BSS and from this point will not be mining it now or in the near future, this isn't because of what has happened to this1dude and the loss of 50LTC but does encompass into my investigation and my findings. As an IT engineer and now Director, I used to investigate certain aspects into companies claims for warranty and insurance and determine if what was stated was correct. This is the reason why I've responded the way I have and also the reason I won't buy into Crypto Currencies.

Thanks to this1dude and his cooperation, it has become very clear to me that BSS is not all what it seems from the onset and it's been good working with him.

I've looked at everything in regards to BSS, it's origins to where it is now and what I have found is very alarming.

I've traced BSS from - 89.200.140.78 | United Kingdom | England | London | Bskyb Broadband (This is the original location of BSS) to it's now current location in Clarks Summit USA IE: Volumedrive Data Center

I've also traced all the email headers from the original email, to the recent emails from doctor crypto and my findings are very shocking to say the least. In the original email, it is clearly marked from one person and this person is also involved in many other projects based around Crypto Currencies. Unfortunately by my own countries laws and regulations I'm not allowed to pass on this persons information, but I'm sure once he has read this he will know that I also know and I care for him to dispute what I'm saying but be warned he should I am watching his activities. The same person is also known by various different names in the world of Crypto Currencies, including several on this site and not just Bosscoin and urge moderators & admins of this site to IP check the Bosscoin account against others based here and mark them as is.

I however don't believe that this is the work of just one person either, as the location of the BSS servers from the UK to the USA and the connections between each would suggest more than one person involved, though it may only be one person involved in the theft of LTC from this1dude. However it doesn't lay to the fact if more than one is involved, why the other is not pushing for this matter to be resolved.

Now the information that I can pass on to anyone reading this, which is not protected by law is the following.

If you wish to trace the information partly on what I have, I would suggest you look into the several URL address linked to BSS and I'm not just talking about bosscoin.org or bosscointalk.org either. You will have to dig very deep into what I have found and come to the same conclusion as I have, as the person/s running BSS have done very well to hide their steps from being traced. Unfortunately for them, I know what to look for, who to contact and how to trace what I needed too. You will also find other things they are linked to and make your own assumptions from that.

So with that said, BSS will no longer be mined from me or my business and my apologies to this1dude and thank you for your help.

I would also urge others to think twice and investigate before going into this, as it smells like kippers and appears to be kippers. I also await the response from Bosscoin or one of his many alts.

There is justice in Crypto!  Yay  Thanks man. 

[LeftToeCut]

So Dark3nvy, bosscoin is/are responsible for some shocking shit but you are unable to reveal what that might be and urge us to investigate? Yet all all we see so far is an alleged 50LTC scam. I say alleged not to cast any doubt on this1dude but mostly cause 50LTC is not interesting/outrageous enough to look deeper into. That stuff happens daily here. Heck , recently a few darknet marketplace people ran off with 40mil USD or so. So some random guy making a random clone coin maybe/probably scamming another guy. Alright. I guess.
Unless you have stumbled upon some evening news worthy stuff, but even that would probably pass of as entertainment here.

[Dark3nvy]

So Dark3nvy, bosscoin is/are responsible for some shocking shit but you are unable to reveal what that might be and urge us to investigate? Yet all all we see so far is an alleged 50LTC scam. I say alleged not to cast any doubt on this1dude but mostly cause 50LTC is not interesting/outrageous enough to look deeper into. That stuff happens daily here. Heck , recently a few darknet marketplace people ran off with 40mil USD or so. So some random guy making a random clone coin maybe/probably scamming another guy. Alright. I guess.
Unless you have stumbled upon some evening news worthy stuff, but even that would probably pass of as entertainment here.

All I'm saying to anyone before looking into this and any other Crypto Currency, is look at it's origin and really see if it is all it's portrayed to be. I've found what I needed to, yes a bit disappointed  as we have used our servers to mine the coin, but not so as we've not invested money into this but rather the time and effort.

[burnum]

oh and for anyone reading this and wondering what I'm still doing posting here...

this whole tirade is for no other purpose than to let you know that if you are mining BossCoins (BSS), you should know that you will ultimately be benefiting the coin's founder, who is a crook, thief and a liar...  plenty of other coins to choose from to support

I'm 100% in SBC StableCoin now and actively watching others.

P.S. If you'd like to work with me to develop a new currency that actually sets itself apart from others, LMK, pm me.  Thanks

Why would someone work on just a coin and not on ways to help people spend their coins? Just wondering cause you can go buy this coin or that but the places to use them are limited, what some devs really need to do is launch a coin with 10-20 diverse sites where they can be spent, that would make a great coin and average users could adopt it knowing they can buy some new hardware or send gifts to somebody, as it is i go mine these coins then go exchange them for one accepted somewhere to get any real value out of them, doing so I risk coins in an exchange (currently) and have to deal with the extreme volatility of the coin I trade for, its a crazy run around to turn hashing into value.

[this1dude]

BTW -- if you see messages posted on my behalf (my other nick is taki1gostek) on bosscointalk.org forum -- it's not me... I was banned from that forum... and someone is on there logged in as me, I just saw it... haha wondering if BossCoin peeps are getting desperate and will try to post something on my behalf?  Getting popcorn ready! 

[Slingshot]

Seems like this guy:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14


 Is the very same person as the one that ripped off the OP here.

 Just saying.

 I wasted enough time reading yet another scam, rippoff, and two bit scammer scheming for pocket change. What a joke.

 As for the OP? Don't settle for heading to yet another coin that failed to launch, and has far too much troubled past history to ever be taken seriously by anyone that's got more than half a clue. And that's what it will take for any crypto to gain serious traction from here out.

 As for BOSS and the other coin mentioned? They didn't have any real features that made them stand out at all. Nor were special at all. Nothing. Nada.

 Sorry, but take it from someone that has a large 2 dozen stable of different crypto's, neither of these would be additions to my portfolio.

 At best they make a little chump change for the developer(s) in yet another clone startup, then flame out. As in P & D.


 Sorry for your loss OP. But it's a scam a second around here.


 But don't waste your talent or time on these types of coin. There are many communities that need your talent and assistance. And worthy abandoned coins that you could adopt as well, and take over their development.

 Please don't look back, forgetaboutthisrobbery. There is no justice in Crypto-land when it comes to being ripped off. Best just to report it, make your case. Then walk away and let them stew in their own shit. As in case closed, done, forgetaboutit.

 You reported it, did your service to others for doing so. End of story.



 And as for your perp. He's likely this guy right here:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14


 Or, at least it sure SMELLS just like him.


 Been there seen that too many times too.

 So how many fresh and ready accounts do you have Dark3nvy?

And how many VPN accounts?

Or do you just IP hop?

 And for what?

Chump change.



 Get a life Dark3nvy. And GET REAL.

 Adios...

 &

 hence why I sign off the way I do:




Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

[oasis0]

Seems like this guy:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14


 Is the very same person as the one that ripped off the OP here.


Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14


 Or, at least it sure SMELLS just like him.


 Been there seen that too many times too.

 So how many fresh and ready accounts do you have Dark3nvy?

And how many VPN accounts?

Or do you just IP hop?

 And for what?

Chump change.



 Get a life Dark3nvy. And GET REAL.

 Adios...

 &

 hence why I sign off the way I do:




Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

[this1dude]

Seems like this guy:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14


 Is the very same person as the one that ripped off the OP here.

 Just saying.

 I wasted enough time reading yet another scam, rippoff, and two bit scammer scheming for pocket change. What a joke.

 As for the OP? Don't settle for heading to yet another coin that failed to launch, and has far too much troubled past history to ever be taken seriously by anyone that's got more than half a clue. And that's what it will take for any crypto to gain serious traction from here out.

 As for BOSS and the other coin mentioned? They didn't have any real features that made them stand out at all. Nor were special at all. Nothing. Nada.

 Sorry, but take it from someone that has a large 2 dozen stable of different crypto's, neither of these would be additions to my portfolio.

 At best they make a little chump change for the developer(s) in yet another clone startup, then flame out. As in P & D.


 Sorry for your loss OP. But it's a scam a second around here.


 But don't waste your talent or time on these types of coin. There are many communities that need your talent and assistance. And worthy abandoned coins that you could adopt as well, and take over their development.

 Please don't look back, forgetaboutthisrobbery. There is no justice in Crypto-land when it comes to being ripped off. Best just to report it, make your case. Then walk away and let them stew in their own shit. As in case closed, done, forgetaboutit.

 You reported it, did your service to others for doing so. End of story.



 And as for your perp. He's likely this guy right here:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14


 Or, at least it sure SMELLS just like him.


 Been there seen that too many times too.

 So how many fresh and ready accounts do you have Dark3nvy?

And how many VPN accounts?

Or do you just IP hop?

 And for what?

Chump change.



 Get a life Dark3nvy. And GET REAL.

 Adios...

 &

 hence why I sign off the way I do:




Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

Thanks for your post - but I absolutely have to wholeheartedly defend Dark3nvy here... I was on Skype with him and we were both attempting to trace where this BSS crap originated and who the founder is.  He has one suspect, I have another, truth is 50/50.  I am letting this go, though not until I see BSS dissolved into nothingness. 

[evershawn]

I think the important thing here is that now some of the more violent vigilante members have some kneecaps to break and eye balls to gouge!  j/k 

[this1dude]

Anti-thievery Bump for BullShitScam Coin (aka BossCoin) 

[Dark3nvy]

Seems like this guy:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14

Is the very same person as the one that ripped off the OP here.

Just saying.

I wasted enough time reading yet another scam, rippoff, and two bit scammer scheming for pocket change. What a joke.

As for the OP? Don't settle for heading to yet another coin that failed to launch, and has far too much troubled past history to ever be taken seriously by anyone that's got more than half a clue. And that's what it will take for any crypto to gain serious traction from here out.

As for BOSS and the other coin mentioned? They didn't have any real features that made them stand out at all. Nor were special at all. Nothing. Nada.

Sorry, but take it from someone that has a large 2 dozen stable of different crypto's, neither of these would be additions to my portfolio.

At best they make a little chump change for the developer(s) in yet another clone startup, then flame out. As in P & D.

Sorry for your loss OP. But it's a scam a second around here.

But don't waste your talent or time on these types of coin. There are many communities that need your talent and assistance. And worthy abandoned coins that you could adopt as well, and take over their development.

Please don't look back, forgetaboutthisrobbery. There is no justice in Crypto-land when it comes to being ripped off. Best just to report it, make your case. Then walk away and let them stew in their own shit. As in case closed, done, forgetaboutit.

You reported it, did your service to others for doing so. End of story.

And as for your perp. He's likely this guy right here:

Dark3nvy
Jr. Member
*
Online Online

Activity: 14

Or, at least it sure SMELLS just like him.

Been there seen that too many times too.

So how many fresh and ready accounts do you have Dark3nvy?

And how many VPN accounts?

Or do you just IP hop?

And for what?

Chump change.

Get a life Dark3nvy. And GET REAL.

Adios...

 &

hence why I sign off the way I do:

Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

You clearly can't read and certainly can't write in eligible English, I would suggest you read over what I put. Actually I'll write what I put and see if it sinks in.

urge moderators & admins of this site to IP check the Bosscoin account against others based here and mark them as is

I would say I can't believe how thick some people actually are, but your living proof that they do exist in this fucked up society we live in. I put this to you also, If I was the perp (Which makes you sound like some wannabe gangster) why is it that I am banned from Bosscointalk.org for dropping a certain person first name in a topic where I outed him and why is it all of a sudden missing like the previous topic is from the site, the deduction my dear is that your a dumb ass dope smoking idiot that doesn't know his ass from his ear. Time you went back to school and use what braincells you actually have left.

How do we know your not the "Perp" and just trying to side track what's going on here. Come on really.................

@this1dude, cheers for the support

[this1dude]

[this1dude]

Bump 

[this1dude]

More evidence, for anyone who doubts my story:

[xinyichao]

seems so sad, and i really do not know who's right.

you know,i just wanna cooperation with bosscoin's designer ,but now ,i should think about it clearly.

[this1dude]

seems so sad, and i really do not know who's right.

you know,i just wanna cooperation with bosscoin's designer ,but now ,i should think about it clearly.

xinychao, don't get fooled, until you are given a REAL PROOF that some sort of project ownership transfer really happened, do not promote this coin among the Chinese people, because they will be stolen from by the same thieving DEV...  I'm monitoring the conversations at the bosscoin forums and they are even self-moderating their topics there to prevent truth from leaking out, it's really a bizarre, but consistent bunch of fools