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Author Topic: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0  (Read 3099000 times)
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January 09, 2014, 10:00:15 AM
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2) auto-switching pools destroy altcoins

should have the motivation to setup a switching pool in response to the existing multipools instead of whining about switching pools.  if multipools are so destructive, then the same switching algorithms can also be used to benefit dogecoin, couldn't they?


oh, so instead of creating a new method to defend against the erosive nature of multipools we just fuck every other alt coin? what's stopping others doing a multipool that pays in shitcoin? I don't want a race to the bottom.

Markets & technology is always a race to the bottom. Look at HFT in traditional markets.

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January 09, 2014, 10:23:41 AM
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The issue i have with the switching pools is they dont give a new coin any time to establish. Because theres so many more people wanting BTC (else they probably wouldnt use these systems), it forces new coins all down to the same level too quickly. Maybe a few escape this, but id guess most of these are the older alts and were maybe even setup before multipools were common place.

Id like to see them given more time to establish a user base etc before being hit by these systems, even if it was just a case of cryptsy/exchanges limiting API calls on coins <2 months old or whatever.

The plus side for doge is its currently holding its own and has stopped the rot for now despite its ridiculous block award, and maybe is proving that services matter.  If there was a Doge > USD service i think this thing would be in much better shape already because attracting a new userbase is one thing, but unless your very dedicated to getting your hands on coins is still not a simple enough experience for most.



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January 09, 2014, 10:31:01 AM
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If anybody hates multipools because they fuck up altcoins, the solution is simple.

make a pool that mines the optimal coin, but pays out in DOGECOIN.

multiple problems solved in one go.  why fuck with the fundamentals of the currency itself when you can up the ante instead?

game on.  

so they will sell dogecoins Wink to cashout
that's what we want though:  people buying and selling dogecoins.  that's the whole point of a currency.  the difference is (if people who hate multipools are to be believed), the value gets 'sucked' out of the other altcoins to benefit dogecoin.  

If some enterprising user who believes in both

1) dogecoin

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2) auto-switching pools destroy altcoins

should have the motivation to setup a switching pool in response to the existing multipools instead of whining about switching pools.  if multipools are so destructive, then the same switching algorithms can also be used to benefit dogecoin, couldn't they?


Let me see if I have this correct?

1. Multi-pools like middlecoin dumps many Dogecoin onto market which drives price down.
2. So what you're saying is to create a new multiple pool mining system that mines only the most profitable alt-coins like middlecoin does,
3. trade them for BTC and immediately trade them for Dogecoins,
4. this will actually allow you to get more Dogecoin per day compared to mining them?
5. Then you will have twice as many people buying Dogecoin which would raise the price? which is good.
6. Also by competing with Middlecoin makes it less profitable for Middlecoin users therefore reducing there user base which shifts the power back over to DOGE and other Alt-coins?
7. This could also effect the total net hash-rate which could make it more profitable to mine again?

Wow!  What a Doggy Doge world.  I would say it's a little hypocritical, but interesting and competitive.

It would be nice to have some of the major Dogecoin mining pools on-board offering the same type of service.

Not sure if the Doge community would like this because many Shibes like to play fair.  But some may call it Justice and others are very competitive.

The bottom line is that two can play the same game therefore it's okay to compete in this way.

Competition is a good thing. 

But how do we know if Multi-pools aren't actually helping Doge in the long run?  Roll Eyes 



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January 09, 2014, 10:36:05 AM
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The issue i have with the switching pools is they dont give a new coin any time to establish. Because theres so many more people wanting BTC (else they probably wouldnt use these systems), it forces new coins all down to the same level too quickly. Maybe a few escape this, but id guess most of these are the older alts and were maybe even setup before multipools were common place.

Id like to see them given more time to establish a user base etc before being hit by these systems, even if it was just a case of cryptsy/exchanges limiting API calls on coins <2 months old or whatever.

The plus side for doge is its currently holding its own and has stopped the rot for now despite its ridiculous block award, and maybe is proving that services matter.  If there was a Doge > USD service i think this thing would be in much better shape already because attracting a new userbase is one thing, but unless your very dedicated to getting your hands on coins is still not a simple enough experience for most.



I think you're right.  A USD to DOGE exchange would be a great service right about now.
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January 09, 2014, 10:52:54 AM
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Where can we vote for doge / usd?
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January 09, 2014, 11:12:56 AM
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Come mine Dogecoin with us:

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January 09, 2014, 11:29:54 AM
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January 09, 2014, 11:45:55 AM
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Where can we vote for doge / usd?

I guess we cast our vote here by talking about it. People are asking for a USD/DOGE exchange all the time. 

But we do have a few options. 

People are selling their supply on a few websites but they sometimes run out of stock:
https://www.dogefordollars.com/
https://www.altquick.co/
https://squareup.com/market/dogebase

ebay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=dogecoin&_sacat=0


Here proposal for a Doge/USD exchange on Reddit.  Nothing seemed to develop.
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1tha0r/hi_fellow_shibes_i_need_your_help_lets_build_a/


It it more time consuming but right now this may be cheapest way to buy a Dogecoins:

    Sign up for coinbase. Takes about 30 minutes to verify everything and allow for instant purchase
    Purchase .1 Bitcoin (the max you can purchase instantly)
    Transfer to crpytsy  This will also take 30mins-1hr+ so don't freak out
    Buy dogecoin for .1 bitcoin
    Transfer doge to personal wallet
    Revel in the fact that you now have as much dogecoin as me (around ~300,000D) but that I purchased at a much higher price and only purchased 100,000 for .1 Bitcoin Smiley

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January 09, 2014, 12:23:31 PM
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LOL  Wow! That's amazing.  Grin

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January 09, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
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Where can we vote for doge / usd?



    Sign up for coinbase. Takes about 30 minutes to verify everything and allow for instant purchase




They only  support U.S. based customers at the moment, anything UK/ Ireland based ?
so what is the cheapest way to buy at the moment  if yourin  Europe ?

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January 09, 2014, 12:24:56 PM
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http://dogepound.l8.lv/

We need more players  Smiley
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January 09, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
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http://dogepound.l8.lv/

We need more players  Smiley

nah i keep my dogecoins for future of my family...sorry
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January 09, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
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http://dogepound.l8.lv/

We need more players  Smiley

I made more dogecoins on dogepound than investing.

 such wow
                       many quute shibe

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January 09, 2014, 12:51:21 PM
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Where can we vote for doge / usd?



    Sign up for coinbase. Takes about 30 minutes to verify everything and allow for instant purchase




They only  support U.S. based customers at the moment, anything UK/ Ireland based ?
so what is the cheapest way to buy at the moment  if yourin  Europe ?

Mtgox works pretty much everywhere except the US.
https://www.mtgox.com/

Check this too:
http://howtobuybitcoins.info/

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January 09, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
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WOOOOOOW Really cool!
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January 09, 2014, 01:54:36 PM
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How many of you think doge will reach 100-200 satoshis after block reward halving?

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January 09, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
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I am looking to release this Android App for Mobile
and ... Tablet Devices that will be listed on Google Play


The app will feature something unique for Doge, and I can't say just yet until version 2.0 comes out..
However, community, I am doing this for Doge!! and very much, you can do for Doge what Doge will continue to do for you.. make you more Doge $$$

So.. I'll cut to the chase. I am accepting a nice bounty.. I see a lot of giveaway doge threads but you all know, Developers are barely cutting the cheese here..
so maybe this should spike up the value of Doge because we give users INSTANT access to everything about DOGE in one app.. News Notifications in real-time,
Threads as they go up or historical threads like this one, mobile forums optimized for the app, social updates, developer central updates,
resource central apps, mining insights, wiki insights, charts and graphs, and we will add more resources based on donations to my bounty.

App Bounty Goal: 1,000,000 Doge @
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See more progress here: http://imgur.com/a/bZqeM

send DOGE @ DCdbaYVu5XNeox8raCuBUJp1fjeP8P2gwv
Send pm with your transaction ID and.. suggested website/resource or your own website/business
supporting Doge, and I will get it listed in the app as well as Pre Release Access before it goes public.

I need to hold more Doge! Go Doge!



Some news about this app?
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January 09, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
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Let me see if I have this correct?

1. Multi-pools like middlecoin dumps many Dogecoin onto market which drives price down.

I do not believe multipools drive dogecoin down.  multi-pools sell dogecoin, but the price stays consistent even though there is more supply.  this does mean the currency is growing.  multi-pools prop up doge by conducting transactions, and keeping interest in doge.  the liquidity of doge is important for it to flourish as a currency.  the ultimate goal is not to daytrade doge like they're doing with catcoin; the goal is for it to be used as a currency.  for this to occur, dogecoin must be stable. 

i believe once multipools switch away from doge the price (and therefore interest) goes down, and we're in trouble. Multipools are interested in the same things you are, profit.  the difference is, a multipool that pays off in doge will increase the value of doge by using more profitable coins to feed its market cap.  the big thing is people that use the site to be paid in dogecoins would have to believe in dogecoins over the other coins.  
 
Wow!  What a Doggy Doge world.  I would say it's a little hypocritical, but interesting and competitive.
i don't see any hypocrisy in it at all.  i do not see multipools as harmful.  i only see people complaining about multipools without any motivation to do something about them.  there are some people in this thread that want to change the currency's very fundamentals as some sort of solution vs. multipools.  i believe a dim view of multipools in general is myopic.  we need an increase in supply in dogecoin.

Not sure if the Doge community would like this because many Shibes like to play fair.  But some may call it Justice and others are very competitive.
i don't think that using the same technology as everyone else is not 'playing fair'.  that implies multipools somehow 'cheat'.  i disagree.  

Under the same criteria, someone with faster video cards than you do 'playing unfair'.  that's just someone with a different investment strategy than you have.  

But how do we know if Multi-pools aren't actually helping Doge in the long run?  Roll Eyes  
my point exactly. consider this a thought experiment to discuss how multipools affect doge.  

I believe that multi-switching pools are beneficial for doge, not harmful.  even the ones that pay out in bitcoin. What will be truly concerning if multipools drop doge.  which looks like that's what they're doing right now.   hashcows isn't mining doge at all, for example.  we need more miners than ever before, even if it is from the so-called unfair multipools.  we may yet experience a drop in mining interest as litecoin becomes more profitable again.  already, the hashrate for litecoin has gone up to 3x all other scryptcoins combined.  there is no reason we should be turning away any miner that wants to make dogecoins especially at this point in time.  

many people are optimistic with the block rewards halving in february we'll see a spike in prices.  i believe we'll see a drop in hashrate rather than a price bump, and at that point, we'll be begging for multi-pools to come back.

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January 09, 2014, 02:12:06 PM
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How many of you think doge will reach 100-200 satoshis after block reward halving?

Not immediately after.  Maybe a week or two after.  It also may spike past 200 and then go back down.  But not as low as it is now.
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January 09, 2014, 02:35:06 PM
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But how do we know if Multi-pools aren't actually helping Doge in the long run?  Roll Eyes  
my point exactly. consider this a thought experiment to discuss how multipools affect doge.  

I believe that multi-switching pools are beneficial for doge, not harmful.  even the ones that pay out in bitcoin. What will be truly concerning if multipools drop doge.  which looks like that's what they're doing right now.   hashcows isn't mining doge at all, for example.  we need more miners than ever before, even if it is from the so-called unfair multipools.  we may yet experience a drop in mining interest as litecoin becomes more profitable again.  

many people are optimistic with the block rewards halving in february we'll see a spike in prices.  i believe we'll see a drop in hashrate rather than a price bump, and at that point, we'll be begging for multi-pools to come back.

My post was about creating a new type of Multi-pool designed to get more Dogecoins.  It would convert from BTC and then immediately into DOGE instead of just BTC.
This new multi-pool would compete against other multi-pools and help Dogecoin at the same time.  It would only payout in DOGE.  

Are you saying you like the idea of a new multi-pool that pays Shibe miners in DOGE not BTC?




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