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August 16, 2011, 12:49:27 AM
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I would highly recommend starting at least difficulty 128 - 512.  Difficulty = 1 will be absolute chaos when I'm guessing 50~100 GH/s coming just from I0 Guild.  Miners are hundreds of times faster than when Bitcoin began at Difficulty=1.

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August 16, 2011, 12:52:12 AM
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I would highly recommend starting at least difficulty 128 - 512.  Difficulty = 1 will be absolute chaos when I'm guessing 50~100 GH/s coming just from I0 Guild.  Miners are hundreds of times faster than when Bitcoin began at Difficulty=1.

Why would anyone complain about extra coins at absurdly low difficulty? It will go in minutes so whats the problem?>

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August 16, 2011, 01:01:30 AM
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Can you provide a summary of the differences? Number of coins you've decided to generate, how often, etc?
- 48 coins per block
- One block each 5 min
- Difficulty changes every 7 days or 2016 blocks

Guys, you're free to inspect the latest commits and try to find flaws on the recent changes Cheesy
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August 16, 2011, 01:24:47 AM
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any precompiled exes available yet?
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August 16, 2011, 01:27:13 AM
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any precompiled exes available yet?
+1, I have already tested i0.btcguild.com, but want to test out some solo mining prior to launch!
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August 16, 2011, 01:43:55 AM
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Can you provide a summary of the differences? Number of coins you've decided to generate, how often, etc?
- 48 coins per block
- One block each 5 min
- Difficulty changes every 7 days or 2016 blocks

Guys, you're free to inspect the latest commits and try to find flaws on the recent changes Cheesy

Why not 50 coins per block like bitcoins? Will be easier for people trying to use mining calculators... they would just have to double what they get from a standard bitcoin mining calculator. Plus it will be simpler for everyone. There's no need to follow ixcoins 96 coins, right?

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August 16, 2011, 01:46:09 AM
Last edit: August 16, 2011, 03:04:29 AM by jackjack
 #127

Can you provide a summary of the differences? Number of coins you've decided to generate, how often, etc?
- 48 coins per block
- One block each 5 min
- Difficulty changes every 7 days or 2016 blocks

Guys, you're free to inspect the latest commits and try to find flaws on the recent changes Cheesy

Why not 50 coins per block like bitcoins? Will be easier for people trying to use mining calculators... they would just have to double what they get from a standard bitcoin mining calculator. Plus it will be simpler for everyone. There's no need to follow ixcoins 96 coins, right?
When halved every 2016 blocks, it doesn't make crazy numbers with a lot of useless digits. 64 or 51.2 I0C/block would have been better though
That's the only reason I can see

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August 16, 2011, 02:03:32 AM
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Why would anyone complain about extra coins at absurdly low difficulty? It will go in minutes so whats the problem?>
huge number of orphan blocks and chain splits due to blocks going by every few seconds. it'll make the currency unusable for anything without a large confirmation count until it settles down.
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August 16, 2011, 02:15:49 AM
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so how do you go about getting an address for i0coin? I guess there is a new client?
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August 16, 2011, 02:19:32 AM
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so how do you go about getting an address for i0coin? I guess there is a new client?

in the initial stages if you just want to accept i0coin but don't want to fiddle with a client, just wait for doublec's i0coin exchange to launch and get an address there.

that's still the only place i've ever held ixcoins
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August 16, 2011, 02:57:13 AM
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So what is the purpose of this new chain?  Or is it really just like Ixcoin in that it's an exchange-only currency?

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August 16, 2011, 03:07:03 AM
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I'm currently mining the i0.btcguild.com test pool, and there's an unusually high number of rejected shares (like 50%!). Anybody else seeing this?

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August 16, 2011, 03:18:54 AM
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So what is the purpose of this new chain?  Or is it really just like Ixcoin in that it's an exchange-only currency?

Pretty much the same I would say.
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August 16, 2011, 03:20:57 AM
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I'm currently mining the i0.btcguild.com test pool, and there's an unusually high number of rejected shares (like 50%!). Anybody else seeing this?

Too be expected to much hash power pointed at low diff is way too much for the *coin client to keep up it is designed for the 6 per 10 minutes ideal not per second like is happening now with that chain.

Ah, so we're "overrunning the buffer" so to speak?

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August 16, 2011, 03:28:13 AM
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With the code adjusted to be 48 coins per 5 min and re adjust the difficulty every 7 days (2016 blocks), the inflation rate should look like this:

While I do feel a faster confirmation time is good, but is it a really good idea technically? IIRC, there was some discussion about why it wasn't made faster in the original Bitcoin protocol and this was due to storage limits and network inefficiency resulting from forks/reorgs if blocks are generated faster.
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August 16, 2011, 03:59:03 AM
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one of the problems with ixcoin is that we don't really know when the genesis block was created.

satoshi proved the bitcoin genesis block was no earlier than jan 3, 2009 by putting in a newspaper headline.

ixcoin's genesis block has nothing to help verify the date. see: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36218.msg447180#msg447180

if I0coin wants to eliminate this (small, in this case) risk that the genesis block has been getting mined for a long time now, it should include something similar to what satoshi did.

second question ...   I0coin
The first character .. is that lowercase L, a number 1, or an uppercase letter i?     The second, a zero (0) or an uppercase letter o?
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August 16, 2011, 04:37:32 AM
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I you were to include a gpg signed contract in the genesis block with both the days newspapers headline and a list of bounties that will be awarded would that solve the problem ?

Having a transparent amount of coins purely to bootstrap adoption is key as well as bounties that late adopters can still claim, maybe by a hardcoded bounty royalty where extra coins are generated to be awarded over the life of the currency.

The real key is transparency.
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August 16, 2011, 04:43:49 AM
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Having a transparent amount of coins purely to bootstrap adoption is key as well as bounties that late adopters can still claim, maybe by a hardcoded bounty royalty where extra coins are generated to be awarded over the life of the currency.

Who should pay the bounties if no coins are premined? ;-)
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August 16, 2011, 04:47:47 AM
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The first character .. is that lowercase L, a number 1, or an uppercase letter i?     The second, a zero (0) or an uppercase letter o?
the first letter is "I"... the letter eye

the second letter isnt a letter it is a number, the number zero.

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August 16, 2011, 04:53:48 AM
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the first letter is "I"... the letter eye

the second letter isnt a letter it is a number, the number zero.

Is it too late to rename the coin? I0coin has ambiguous pronunciation and ambiguous spelling. It will be really hard to take off if it keeps this name. One thing going for ixcoin is that it had none of these problems.

It's probably too late, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Since you decided to have the address start with a j, how about something like "jitcoin"?

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