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June 19, 2018, 01:59:09 AM
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If you were here for how many years you will also have a theory like that and for me, it's for real. They are so called whales, group of bitcoiners that hold decent amount of btc, mainly from China or so they say. They won't call them like that if they don't have the ability to manipulate the price. They can pump and dump if they want.
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June 19, 2018, 02:03:03 AM
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I think whale's are the reasoning person behind Bitcoin or the market pricing now. They can do manipulating for they have power to do so for they hold huge bitcoin. I hope they will make the market turn to green again to give hope the hopeless for profit.
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June 19, 2018, 02:29:29 AM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?
There is a possiblity that they could manipulate the price of bitcoins because they have the chance to do it but as long as there are no evidence that will point them, it is still a speculation. And also, this kind of situation in the crypto market certainly happen in the early and mid quarter of the year. I'm sure it will increased again in the last quarter. Same as what happen in 2017.

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June 19, 2018, 07:46:58 AM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?
I think so. If not, why would they say that the price of Bitcoin is being determined by the rate of investment? If it is being determined by the rate of investment that means that anyone can put in a very huge amount of money, maybe up to a million dollars, to move or pump the price, and once it’s up they will immediately withdraw the money which result to what we all call a dump. So it is  possible that whales can manipulate the price of Bitcoin.
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June 19, 2018, 09:20:01 AM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?
Yes that is their job to manipulate their market tokens. Manipulating the price of the tokens thats why trading now are so unpredictable. Im so upset that the whales are existing and whales now are so huge so no one can stop them. Cryptocurrency whales nowadays are so aggressive they want all of the money so they are so aggressive
There are whales in almost every business in the world. I thought that I should start medicine business but one of my friends told me that you have no big investment and there are anacondas in this business that will never let you make money in this sector. The same is here is crypto world. Whales will never give you a chance of making money in cryptocurrency because they manipulate the market when they want.
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June 19, 2018, 09:52:35 AM
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If you were here for how many years you will also have a theory like that and for me, it's for real. They are so called whales, group of bitcoiners that hold decent amount of btc, mainly from China or so they say. They won't call them like that if they don't have the ability to manipulate the price. They can pump and dump if they want.

I agree, it's like you said for now, but I'm sure this situation will change in the future. The whales will not be holding their coins forever intact, they need some other currencies (fiat ones) to spend in real life. Yes, they earn that due to manipulations these days, ending up with the same amount of BTC as before plus some good amount of fiat. Basically they exploit stupidity of panic sellers today, but I'm sure that people will not stay this stupid for long. And beginning from that time when most regular holders will stop being affected by FUD, whales will start selling their coins without getting them back afterwards. And then I think in 2-3 years max the situation will change dramatically: we'll have much less coins collected in the hands of whales and much more in the wallets of small investors. Manipulations will almost stop then.

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June 19, 2018, 10:23:35 AM
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I don't think the current market status has a lot to do with whales manipulating the markets. Whales can manipulate the market, yes! But too much "artificial" manipulation can lead to the severest form of FUDs which might deter new crypto investors. I bet the whales don't want that to happen.
Indeed! a lot of whales are manipulating it but we cannot do something about it at the moment since that is their way of earning and it is their advantage because they believe in it so much, so if we really believe in it too then we must know how they works or how they play the market by studying their action.
Theres nothing important for them but profit,so what do they care about what will happen in investors or even the whole market as long as they are gaining good income from what are they doing

This is total manipulation,they are the one whos creating fud spreading fake news so they will have reason to bring the market down so cheap prices is what they can have
No doubt whales are manipulating the market according to their well and it is the worst thing in crypto world. They want to hold as much bitcoin stock as they can and earn a lot of profit in the future. If there was no manipulating in cryptocurrency the prices of almost every currency would increase with the passage of time. Then every investor would be happy with his investment.
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June 19, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
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For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys.

The whales behind the manipulation of the market price value, will never know? Some expert say that, but until today we have no concrete data to confirmed this issue, Anyway, there a lot more concrete  indicators that possibly influenced the market trading, like the issue on Banned, Scammer, Opposition to Bitcoin by some financial institution, issue on Regulation which very critical on Bitcoin digital transaction, the behavior of the investors on the day to day transaction whether on Buying and Selling, all of this affects the market price value of crypto not only on Bitcoin but almost all of ALT coin posted on the treed.

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June 19, 2018, 10:52:32 AM
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For every market, there are hidden 'market movers' that control the pricing and market flow at their own will. Bitcoin is no exception, given that exchanges aren't highly regulated and you can create as many accounts as you like provided that you pass the verification on the exchange. These whales are responsible for several market movements that happen 'all of a sudden' such as sudden rise or huge fake crashes. They are around and lingering, and also controlling the markets with their stringed toys.

The whales behind the manipulation of the market price value, will never know? Some expert say that, but until today we have no concrete data to confirmed this issue, Anyway, there a lot more concrete  indicators that possibly influenced the market trading, like the issue on Banned, Scammer, Opposition to Bitcoin by some financial institution, issue on Regulation which very critical on Bitcoin digital transaction, the behavior of the investors on the day to day transaction whether on Buying and Selling, all of this affects the market price value of crypto not only on Bitcoin but almost all of ALT coin posted on the treed.

Absolutely right sir we have no concrete data or analyzation if big whale can manipulate the price all I can see the demand of the coin can gain a huge pump up in a short period of time, some expert and bitcoiner believe that big whale can manipulate the price all idea can be happen.

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June 19, 2018, 01:27:12 PM
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yes you're right it seems that whales do often manipulate prices in exchange places you can see it from when there is some good news and bad news for cryptocurrency there will be whales trying to make many people panic so it will be easy to move the price in the market.

Of course, they do it constantly. They can easily change the situations in the market when they start to sell all of their actives or, vice versa, buy a lot.
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June 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
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Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?


Of course, the Whales do have a major role to play in the pumping on some markets. I did first experience it last year with the bitcoin red having it with a sharp increase being pumped within some few hours. They control the markets to the direction they want it to be most of the time.

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June 19, 2018, 03:49:21 PM
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the whale that has a lot of capital will drive the bitcoin price, you can take the example of the currently defined whale is mtgox when he sells bitcoin that bitcoin will collapse because the bitcoin is very much owned.
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June 19, 2018, 05:14:57 PM
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Yes! I so think so too. Whales actually control the prices of crypto currency by buying and selling at the most opportune time. Then again, it's also our fault for letting coins be available in the market. We should always hold and buy more so we take the control from the whales. Let's just stop panic selling and actually invest on crypto currency
Of course they do, I believe they are the reason the price of Bitcoinkeeps on fluctuating up and down. We do know that the price of Bitcoin is volatile, but if everyone ismaking normal investment I don’t think it will fluctuate that much like it does.It’s due to the whales that are putting in heavy amount of money to make the price go up and down so they can make profit out of it. Well, if not volatility, what else could be the fun of investing in Bitcoin. At least we make profit from the Hodl.
Thinking is even an understatement as it is definite they are !
The whales always control the market to how they want it for their own gains. Some may not understand how it works, but it is a way for them to send signals to traders in the market either to buy or sell after they must have made substantial gain from accumulating or distributing respectively.

It is even easier in a decentralized market, where the market cap is a lot low and that gives them more chance to accumulate for the future.

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June 19, 2018, 05:28:13 PM
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There might be an indirect way for that to happen but for sure Whales and their transactions
have made big significant impacts on the market. With that in mind, the influence they harbor
and initiate ripples all throughout, maybe that's why prices vary and dips often occurs.

I agree to some degree here, since whales do make the biggest investments
in the market. You see them in trade sites and platforms, they can dump it all
and observe how events such as that radically changes things in the market
instantly. They are the major players in this business and industry, what they
do next affects the whole flow and Cryptocurrency ecosystem. Whether we like
it or not, essentially they truly are the true power house and key players here.
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June 20, 2018, 06:03:04 AM
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The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more.

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June 20, 2018, 06:05:13 AM
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I was trying to buy a coin, but whenever I inserted a price, in a fraction of a second a slightly better price would pop up. If I do nothing, then nothing, but as soon as I beat it, fraction of a second again.

So I think it's more than just whales.
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June 20, 2018, 06:24:41 AM
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not sure about it, but it seems when they have a big stack on it their movment will getting followed by itself with another fish, so sure it can being manipulated
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June 20, 2018, 09:14:30 AM
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The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more.
Whales could really manipulate the market especially if they have the money for it and we are not talking about small amount. This had happened before, whales could help in making the price of bitcoin higher by buying so they could also do the opposite which is making the price dump by selling. But it is also not right to blame it all at them for the kind of market which we have can be affected by many factors like @Snaic mentioned.

This dumping and pumping of the price only proves that the market is alive but  I think that the market is healthier when there are small fluctuations because there is a balance in selling and buying.

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June 20, 2018, 10:08:44 AM
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The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales. If they have such an opportunity to influence the crypto-currency market in their own interests, of course, they will have this opportunity to use. However, in addition, a lot of factors affect the crypto currency, such as negative or positive news information, the behavior of investors, individual states on the legalization of the crypto currency, and much more.
Yeah we know that there are a lot of things that affect the crypto market, but I think whales really have a big effect on the market, we know they have thousands of bitcoins in their wallets, they can make a hoax news, lots of speculation, etc. thus affecting the market
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June 20, 2018, 10:22:05 AM
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Yes I think the whales are manupulating the market.they just want their benefit.they again and again manupulate market and they again and again earn profit.The crypto currency is influenced very much, including periodically coordinated actions of whales.they have million million dollars bitcoin.So they all time manupulate market and earn more.
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