Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[SgtMoth]

holy shit, you guys are still at it lol

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[Astargath]

The earth is an advanced engineered structure covered by a steel dome and the temperature is controlled by not man. The level of clown world insanity here is really over the top.

People ask why would clowns lie about the shape of the earth, well carbon taxes are one of million fucking reasons.

There are like thousands of different ways they could have used to make money, you think it's more logical to believe they made this huge conspiracy about the shape of the earth and the universe to make some money? Madoff was able to scam victims for a total of $65 Billion and he didn't need to lie about the shape of the earth.

[Spendulus]

The earth is an advanced engineered structure covered by a steel dome . .....

Steel is pretty elastic.

Ever seen a crane moving a 150' long steel section? It will be wobbling around like rubber.

It does not have the strength in compression to withstand the gravitational forces for a dome of that size. No material does, this is why large masses collapse into spheres we call planets. An an example, suppose we created a perfect cube of high carbon steel, 6000 miles on each side. It would immediately collapse into a sphere, about the size of the Earth.

Got any other ideas that'll keep the Earth flat? If you could shrink the Earth to a couple miles across, you might be able to keep that flat surface working.

[notbatman]

^^^ If you analyze a meteorite fragment (a piece of the dome) you'll find that it's made from a long grain Damascus type nickel-iron steel alloy; a manufactured material.

As for gravity making a steel dome impossible, you would have to assume gravity is anything more than an unproven theory that was falsified along with relativity in 1939 (Sagnac D&P). The reality is that the dome holds in the atmosphere in under pressure and the forces on the dome come from inside trying to push out. The force that pushes objects down (that you believe is gravity pulling) comes from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) the object has displaced and, the direction it falls or sinks is defined by the electric field created by dome and its electrically polarized oxide surface.

Open your eyes and see that you're being fed 100% grade "A" bullshit by the men in small hats.



@Astargath, it's not about money it's about fucking you over as hard as possible and making you into a retarded powerless slave who believes nothing but complete bullshit.

[Spendulus]

^^^ If you analyze a meteorite fragment (a piece of the dome) you'll find that it's made from a long grain Damascus type nickel-iron steel alloy; a manufactured material.

As for gravity making a steel dome impossible, you would have to assume gravity is anything more than an unproven theory that was falsified along with relativity in 1939 (Sagnac D&P). The reality is that the dome holds in the atmosphere in under pressure and the forces on the dome come from inside trying to push out. The force that pushes objects down (that you believe is gravity pulling) comes from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) the object has displaced and, the direction it falls or sinks is defined by the electric field created by dome and its electrically polarized oxide surface.
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Oxide surfaces of metals do not polarize. Virtually all aluminum has an AL-O oxide surface, as does any piece of rusted metal, Fe-O.

Next you claim the dome is a pressure dome. Previously you claimed the Moon was 32 miles long, a flat plate, and it was 3100 miles distant. Is that how high this dome is?

I would be happy to meet you by the edge of this dome so we can examine its construction technique. It shouldn't be too hard. We would just have to go to the end of the world.

[notbatman]

^^^ If the oxide is formed under high voltage it retains its electrical polarization when cooled, it's a kind of electret.

After much discussion and a failed first attempt at calculation, I've arrived at a distance of 3440 nautical miles for both Sun and Moon.

First I measure the Sun/Moon at sunrise/sunset with the luminary 50% visible (16 minutes), then I calculate the distance to the horizon with a 1 foot eye elevation and an eye angular resolution limit of 1 minute (1 nautical mile to horizon), then I calculate the luminaries un-refracted size (1 minute). Finally I measure the luminary at 90 degrees (32 minutes). Now without making any assumptions I know the radius of the luminary (16 minuets) and using standard right angle trigonometry and the 1 nautical mile per minuet defined during the first measurement/calculation we find the luminary is at a height of 3440 nautical miles with 32 nautical mile diameter.

There isn't really an edge with the dome and the ice wall, however Antarctica is protected by the Antarctic Treaty System so you can't go there un-escorted for any reason under any circumstance. If you try you'll be stopped by military force.



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Sorry for going off-topic here but we're inside a climate controlled high-tech structure built by giants (Titans). Modern humans are the "son of man" and we do not control the climate, all the shit the men with small hats spray on us (chemtrails) not withstanding.

[Astargath]

^^^ If the oxide is formed under high voltage it retains its electrical polarization when cooled, it's a kind of electret.

After much discussion and a failed first attempt at calculation, I've arrived at a distance of 3440 nautical miles for both Sun and Moon.

First I measure the Sun/Moon at sunrise/sunset with the luminary 50% visible (16 minutes), then I calculate the distance to the horizon with a 1 foot eye elevation and an eye angular resolution limit of 1 minute (1 nautical mile to horizon), then I calculate the luminaries un-refracted size (1 minute). Finally I measure the luminary at 90 degrees (32 minutes). Now without making any assumptions I know the radius of the luminary (16 minuets) and using standard right angle trigonometry and the 1 nautical mile per minuet defined during the first measurement/calculation we find the luminary is at a height of 3440 nautical miles with 32 nautical mile diameter.

There isn't really an edge with the dome and the ice wall, however Antarctica is protected by the Antarctic Treaty System so you can't go there un-escorted for any reason under any circumstance. If you try you'll be stopped by military force.

Do you realize you keep going back and forth to the same concepts, right? "Protected" by the antarctic treaty does not mean you cant go there, in fact nowhere in the few article/rules there does it say you will be stopped by military force.

[notbatman]

^^^ Dude, you're so full of crap. Independent travel is NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD!



Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed!  -- https://youtu.be/vnNlbNtuv1g

[Astargath]

^^^ Dude, you're so full of crap. Independent travel is NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD!



Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed!  -- https://youtu.be/vnNlbNtuv1g

Lets see who is full of shit.

"Article I
1. Antarctica shall be used for peaceful purposes only. There shall be prohibited, inter alia, any measures of a military nature, such as the establishment of military bases and fortifications, the carrying out of military maneuvers, as well as the testing of any type of weapons.

2. The present treaty shall not prevent the use of military personnel or equipment for scientific research or for any other peaceful purposes."

So right off the bat, it says no military allowed and that antarctica should be used only for peaceful purposes only. How bad is that???

You are such a bafoon. I would punch you hard in real life. 
https://www.ats.aq/documents/recatt/Att483_e.pdf

There are fucking guidelines in case you go there idiot, you can go there at anytime you fucking dumbfuck.

[notbatman]

^^^ No you can't you fucking retard, your government has to OK it and they don't just OK it for anybody. The steps you have to go through are impossible and cost millions, YOU CAN NOT GO THERE INDEPENDANTLY!!!!!

If the man with the small hat isn't there to hold your hand while your there and OK the trip then YOU DON'T GO!

[Spendulus]

^^^ No you can't you fucking retard, your government has to OK it and they don't just OK it for anybody. The steps you have to go through are impossible and cost millions, YOU CAN NOT GO THERE INDEPENDANTLY!!!!!

If the man with the small hat isn't there to hold your hand while your there and OK the trip then YOU DON'T GO!

So you are just plain wrong, how about some humility instead of the insults.

You or I certainly can fly over Antarctica.

https://www.antarcticaflights.com.au


You realize, I hope, that Antarctica is a really huge place. FYI there are no military forces stationed there to stop anyone.

There would be no way to stop an aircraft from going over Antarctica. However there are some generally accepted rules.

https://www.quora.com/Do-any-airline-flights-fly-over-Antarctica-If-not-why-not

Due to the arrangement of the three populated southern continents, flying over Antarctica wouldn't actually be shorter for most routes. South America, Africa, and Australia form a rough triangle at the "bottom of the world" and the shortest leg between their largest airports misses most of Antarctica.

Still, there are a few routes where it would make sense. And the shortest route isn't always best, since one must also consider prevailing winds. I read that it would be favorable to fly Sydney to Buenos Aires (currently the most-southern flight) at 80 degrees south (over Antarctica) rather than 72 degrees (the great circle) due to winds.

ETOPS

ETOPS rules cover where twin-engine jets can fly. Antarctica is considered off-limits for twin-engine jets even though it's technically "land". This isn't a real roadblock since there are a good number of 4-engine jets that don't need to abide by ETOPS, but it limits the type of plane that theoretically could fly there and thus rules out all but the largest jets. So any flight over Antarctica would have to connect large-enough cities to fill a large four-engine jet. Bringing us back to the answer about geography...

Special Rules

The real reason no commercial flight over-flies Antarctica is that there are special aviation rules for flights that do. These rules were designed for sightseeing flights but apply to commercial flights as well. Planes flying below 72 degrees latitude need special survival equipment on board, and no commercial carrier would want to stock planes with all this stuff just to save a bit of fuel. It would limit the number of seats available (see ETOPS above) and would require special equipment and training. This could seriously screw up the airline's schedules.

I have been numerous times on commercial flights that overflew the North Pole. USA - China, USA - Australia are examples.

[notbatman]

You guys want to argue with me over the dumbest shit most provable shit, Antarctica is closed.

I mention the steel dome covering Earth was built by two mile tall giants and nobody bats an eye. I say the government controls access to Antarctica and everybody goes insane trying to deny this provable fact!

Do you have any idea how much an environmental impact study for Antarctica costs? Once the multi-million dollar study is complete then the government arbitrarily decides whether or not you go and once you're there (if you're not denied), there's massive restrictions on what you can and can't do. You can't even bring dogs for a sled let alone a vehicle and fuel for dog's sake.

[Spendulus]

You guys want to argue with me over the dumbest shit most provable shit, Antarctica is closed.

I mention the steel dome covering Earth was built by two mile tall giants and nobody bats an eye. I say the government controls access to Antarctica and everybody goes insane trying to deny this provable fact!

Do you have any idea how much an environmental impact study for Antarctica costs? Once the multi-million dollar study is complete then the government arbitrarily decides whether or not you go and once you're there (if you're not denied), there's massive restrictions on what you can and can't do. You can't even bring dogs for a sled let alone a vehicle and fuel for dog's sake.

I'll get around to the two mile high giants if you want, no problem.

Right now we're discussing the fact that you can, TODAY, get a ticket on the flights I linked to over Antarctica.

[notbatman]

^^^ To use the same example as the video I posted, you can go visit a military base and they've got a visitors center etc. If you start wandering around and exploring on your own you're going to get shot. The same applies to Antarctica.

Everything you do in Antarctica has to be OK'd by your government i.e. the men in small hats. They're not going to OK an expedition that could possibly disprove all the lies they've been telling.

[Masha Sha]

the technoaristocrats started with questionning... when will they activate their persuasion machines to make pedophila legal like their master eric schimdt taught them? China is so right to have ban them all... never let an american company in your country, never use one, clone what they do, and fuck them if they dare to move, using AI + CSS to flag their little CIA agents and farm them like flies on high speed maglev train...

[Spendulus]

^^^ To use the same example as the video I posted, you can go visit a military base and they've got a visitors center etc. If you start wandering around and exploring on your own you're going to get shot. The same applies to Antarctica.

Everything you do in Antarctica has to be OK'd by your government i.e. the men in small hats. They're not going to OK an expedition that could possibly disprove all the lies they've been telling.

You started out claiming nobody could go to Antarctica, and you've been proved wrong.

[tvbcof]

^^^ To use the same example as the video I posted, you can go visit a military base and they've got a visitors center etc. If you start wandering around and exploring on your own you're going to get shot. The same applies to Antarctica.

Everything you do in Antarctica has to be OK'd by your government i.e. the men in small hats. They're not going to OK an expedition that could possibly disprove all the lies they've been telling.

You started out claiming nobody could go to Antarctica, and you've been proved wrong.

Claiming that one can 'go to' Antarctia freely because you can fly over it is weak sauce.  I'm with ~notbatman on that one.

I don't know (and don't deeply care) whether a guy with the means to do so could mount an expedition to anywhere he wanted to go in Antrarctica.  I suspect that ~notbatman is right in saying that he would be interfered with by various powers-that-be if they didn't approve of his specific destination, his reasons for going, or didn't like him as a person.

The idea that there are various 'survivability' operations going on in the arctic and antarctic regions sponsored by entities who have the resources to do so is fairly believable to me.  Mostly because the null hypothesis is not.  I don't think that it is a wild conspiracy theory, for instance, that someone with the means to do so installed a 'seed bank' in one such place.  I might do the same just for shits and giggles if I had an infinite supply of (debt-based fiat) money.

[notbatman]

^^^ To use the same example as the video I posted, you can go visit a military base and they've got a visitors center etc. If you start wandering around and exploring on your own you're going to get shot. The same applies to Antarctica.

Everything you do in Antarctica has to be OK'd by your government i.e. the men in small hats. They're not going to OK an expedition that could possibly disprove all the lies they've been telling.

You started out claiming nobody could go to Antarctica, and you've been proved wrong.

Now you're just using semantics, there's no independent investigation of Antarctica allowed. The argument was "go to edge and see" but the men with small hats won't allow it, you have to be babysat while you're there and you can't go, do or see anything.

Thanks for playing.

[mOgliE]

Now you're just using semantics, there's no independent investigate of Antarctica allowed. The argument was "go to edge and see" but the men with small hats won't allow it, you have to be babysat while you're there and you can't go, do or see anything.

Thanks for playing.

Hey dude, you have any proof that you can't wander on Antartica?

Because I never saw anything, any treaty, any law, any testimony of anyone saying they couldn't do what they wanted.

You can book a flight to Antartica. Once there you can walk in any direction you want.

You claim it is forbidden. Can you bring anything close to a proof to support this?

[Spendulus]

^^^ To use the same example as the video I posted, you can go visit a military base and they've got a visitors center etc. If you start wandering around and exploring on your own you're going to get shot. The same applies to Antarctica.

Everything you do in Antarctica has to be OK'd by your government i.e. the men in small hats. They're not going to OK an expedition that could possibly disprove all the lies they've been telling.

You started out claiming nobody could go to Antarctica, and you've been proved wrong.

Now you're just using semantics, there's no independent investigate of Antarctica allowed. The argument was "go to edge and see" but the men with small hats won't allow it.....

I understand that as an unsubstantiated assertion made by you.

It's a claim.

Buy you could be lying. How would I know, except to look for facts to disprove your claim.