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July 28, 2016, 06:02:22 AM
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we've both come to the agreement that they were very inexperienced with poker room management.  

The problem is, in the past year they have done nothing to show that they have gained (or want) any more experience with running a poker room.  So the question is, how many more "honest mistakes" should we allow?  When do you think the last one will be?  How much money will be lost because of it?

They're starting to be pretty proactive in managing the poker room.  Staff like Stuart, Aidan, Robert, Danny, and more (apologies if I missed you) all put in the work when it comes to reviewing and overlooking the poker room.  I can't give more details regarding what they do exactly because it involves on-going investigations, but they've definitely cleaned things up quite a bit.

When you take a look at the poker room, you can't find a single colluder in the cash games, and this is all because of the environment created by the close knit community and ease of communication.  I would say this is a pretty good poker environment. 

You think that having only 40 players playing cash games at any given time is a good environment. LOL
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They're starting to be pretty proactive in managing the poker room.  Staff like Stuart, Aidan, Robert, Danny, and more (apologies if I missed you) all put in the work when it comes to reviewing and overlooking the poker room.  I can't give more details regarding what they do exactly because it involves on-going investigations, but they've definitely cleaned things up quite a bit.

When you take a look at the poker room, you can't find a single colluder in the cash games, and this is all because of the environment created by the close knit community and ease of communication.  I would say this is a pretty good poker environment. 

1.  Cash games don't run.  So that's why you "can't find a single colluder".  Also, them not finding anyone colluding isn't proof that people aren't colluding.  It's entirely possible that the support is just ineffective. 

2.  Your statements imply that there WAS cheating going on that the support put a stop to.  Who was cheating?  Why weren't players payed back from confiscated funds?  I've never once seen ANYONE say "Betcoin payed me $xxx because they caught colluders", yet those remarks are frequent on every major poker site.
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July 29, 2016, 10:12:15 PM
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Hmm.... looked like a good site at first.

I was going to send a few chips to get going but couldn't even access my wallet.

I opened a fresh account, still couldn't access the wallet (the request for name and password keeps reloading).

Tried the customer service button but that didn't work either.

This operation actually makes Seals look good, which is sad.

Piss on it.

Anyone know where this is legit btc poker?  TIA

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July 30, 2016, 09:26:21 AM
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Even though someone from management stated the BBJ didn't exist when the counter was still going at around 5-7 BTC's (?), had it been hit, I'm sure they still would have paid it out.  
There were no terms.  No Rules.  Managment (paul) confirmed it didn't exist.  There was a 0% chance of it being hit, there was nothing to hit.  
You knew about it and did nothing because you're more interested in your own personal bottom line.  You are scum.
Get it?


It was mismanagement/misguidance/incompetence for them to state the BBJ didn't exist, but you keep bringing it up as if it was a scam, which obviously it wasn't.
It's scumbags like you that make them think they can get away with scummy stuff like overcharging rake, collecting for BBJP that didn't exist, waiting for cheaters to request cashout before freezing account, running no collusion freeroll and allowing colluders to play in it, seizing funds from cheaters and not returning all funds to victims, etc.

The bottom line is you want betcoin to succeed because when they profit you profit - so you defend their reputation at all costs while doing whatever you can to get new signups and more deposits.  Meanwhile, they're doing nothing but damage to the reputation of Bitcoin Poker.



Wrong again.  They immediately reported the BBJ being hit but players had to let them know it didn't qualify.  https://www.betcoin.ag/actl0nnnn-loses-king-quads-royal-flush-bad-beat-poker-hand

Nevertheless, it's proof that had it been hit and players demanded it and reported it, they would have paid out the 5-7 BTC's.

Also your emotional instability, personality, and judgment makes you unqualified and unfit to be a scam police.

Here's how some of my players feel about his posts in my thread yet he continues to spam my thread for malicious reasons, and he's even acknowledged to me he's purposely being malicious and "attacking" me.



Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n


Just to say that Xiao is a nice affiliate and that I never had any problems neither my sub affiliate (He rakes high values not tiny tiny low as this loosers posting).

Xiao pays the right amount on time and always answers very quickly to any doubt so I dont understand this losers that keep posting.

And yes I check if the value of rake returned is right and it is.

Betcoin pays very fast and is a nice place to play.



Wow twitchy and the other trolls have to be some of the biggest dumbest trolls on the internet. Xaio provides a service and provides it very well. He can't do anything about what you are complaining about. He has also shown himself to be of high character with regsrd to the players over and over. I guarantee I've paid more rake to betcoin than anyone here and I don't feel slighted at all. They offer the best rb and xaio is a credit to the players. Continuing to nag him about this is pointless and just makes this thread unbearable.

Yes, why you don't start your own thread instead of filling this thread with garbage.  You clearly have mental problems as many people have stated.  Start your own thread and say whatever you want.



Wow you guys need to leave Xiao the fuck alone, everything about this service is amazing.



Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n


This +1.

Xiaoxiao has always been great with his service, always paid the right amount in time and responded to queries very quickly and professionally. I dont know why one or two people have made it their purpose of life to bash him and his service all day long, its quite sad to see really. Ive had nothing but good experiences with the OP, he always paid what he promised and on time (which is a LOT more that can be said about most affs) and would absolutely recommend his rakeback for Betcoin.

When a player of mine posted this:

I always been payed by this affiliate he honors his word and my win rate on betcoin is higher then any other site. It has the weakest players. I honestly think bet coin is doing a great job and I am very negative about online poker rooms in general.

He immediately quoted a review that he made over 1 year ago in an attempt to shame him.  But that was 1 year ago, so clearly that means his opinion of the poker room has changed.

never mind dont sign up on betcoin. I just talked to their customer service very unprofessional and wont answer your question about if a game freezes in a sng do we get a refund. They siad just send a ticket. Screw them all join seals. Worst customer service I have had on any poker site. And they need customers and i play daily and play poker for a living. They thought i already signed up and had money deposited on the site so decided to be snotty and rude to me.  Great customer support. Dudes name was julian i think. GG. Ty for offer though I appreciate you trying to help out poker community but im not dealing with non professional people.


And also another example of Twitchy attacking my players.  When one of my players made this comment in the SWC thread, a totally valid comment:


I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

Twitchy sarcastically assumed he was "shilly" and then used one of his alternates/co-conspirator to give him a bad feedback, the same alternate he used to give me a bad feedback after he already gave me a malicious false feedback awhile ago.



excellent point, not shilly at all







Some more of my players telling him to stop spamming my service thread and their opinions of him:

Xiao, I thought you weren't going to respond to Twitchy anymore. There's no point in arguing with this guy. Not many regs like him either cause he takes up all of supports time when we're the ones that need help....



Can you be a little less cryptic for once and explain what you mean? We aren't all off our meds and we don't all speak spergs so please specify what you mean by shorting people rakeback.

If he has Asperger's or any other mental disability, he shouldn't be in the position he's in, cause his hit or miss tactics of calling out people and businesses could really hurt someone.  His obnoxiousness and mental instability pretty much outweighs his "scam alerts."  

There's more players who've spoken out about him, and people have said stuff to me in private about him which I won't post, but the reason he started to upset me was not because of his issues with Betcoin and Betsoft.  I personally believe Betsoft was incredibly unethical in the way they handled the Jasonort situation.  But he continues to attack my rakeback program by spamming the Betsoft issue and bringing up old poker room issues (that he had gotten wrong anyway).


Some evidence of Twitchy having alternates, the alternate has yet to post since the creation of this thread:




No, I'm leaning towards the fact that he is your alternate.  His claims are nearly identical to yours.  He supports all your posts, but either way it doesn't matter.  You've called out BtcFTW and NooBTC or something like that for doing the same thing.  Yet you do the exact same thing.

Latest posts of Cryptosmoker: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427;sa=showPosts

Someone that works as hard as Twitchy in his investigations but hasn't logged in for 3 days now?  I can't imagine someone that is like a clone of Twitchy but hasn't logged into the forums for 3 days now.









His actions aren't any better than the recipients of his accusations.  He abuses the little power that he's gained from sitting at the computer nearly 24/7 and calling out businesses with his hit or miss tactics.  

He clearly knew that the CardsChat review of Betcoin Poker had already been removed, but he continued posting it everywhere as if it was still valid.  Anyone with common sense could see that that review was virtually gibberish.



He infers that the reason it was removed was because Betcoin bribed them, but he's got absolutely no proof.  And even if Betcoin did bribe them, that just means he's posting the review of a company that accepts bribes as if it has merit.

He assumes that just because some players are outraged at him, it is the work of Betcoin.  That is not true, the reason I began noticing him was because he continued to spam my thread, and lately with casino related issues that has nothing to do with my rakeback service nor the poker room.

PS: There's a lot more cases in the past where Twitchy had been adamant that he's correct and it turned out that his assumption was wrong.  
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Even though someone from management stated the BBJ didn't exist when the counter was still going at around 5-7 BTC's (?), had it been hit, I'm sure they still would have paid it out.  
There were no terms.  No Rules.  Managment (paul) confirmed it didn't exist.  There was a 0% chance of it being hit, there was nothing to hit.  
You knew about it and did nothing because you're more interested in your own personal bottom line.  You are scum.
Get it?


It was mismanagement/misguidance/incompetence for them to state the BBJ didn't exist, but you keep bringing it up as if it was a scam, which obviously it wasn't.
It's scumbags like you that make them think they can get away with scummy stuff like overcharging rake, collecting for BBJP that didn't exist, waiting for cheaters to request cashout before freezing account, running no collusion freeroll and allowing colluders to play in it, seizing funds from cheaters and not returning all funds to victims, etc.

The bottom line is you want betcoin to succeed because when they profit you profit - so you defend their reputation at all costs while doing whatever you can to get new signups and more deposits.  Meanwhile, they're doing nothing but damage to the reputation of Bitcoin Poker.



Wrong again.  They immediately reported the BBJ being hit but players had to let them know it didn't qualify.  https://www.betcoin.ag/actl0nnnn-loses-king-quads-royal-flush-bad-beat-poker-hand

Nevertheless, it's proof that had it been hit and players demanded it and reported it, they would have paid out the 5-7 BTC's.


Until August 2 2015 there was no possible way to win the jackpot that they had collected over 10 btc.   (I think it was 16 actually)  In May of 2015 it was over 10, and Xiao was spamming it to attract new signups despite the fact it couldn't be won untill August.


They announced a winner who didn't qualify months later.

You seem pretty mad.  

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July 30, 2016, 12:28:01 PM
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so nobody has EVER won it correct?
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July 30, 2016, 06:00:06 PM
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Here's how some of my players feel about his posts in my thread yet he continues to spam my thread for malicious reasons, and he's even acknowledged to me he's purposely being malicious and "attacking" me.

Those quotes from players about how happy they are to be receiving RB from your program would be much more compelling if they were dated after you changed the terms of your RB agreement.
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August 01, 2016, 07:23:09 PM
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for the Betcoin ring games... do they use the same RNG as other WPN rooms, or is it a separate one specifically used by Betcoin?
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August 04, 2016, 01:36:57 AM
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for the Betcoin ring games... do they use the same RNG as other WPN rooms, or is it a separate one specifically used by Betcoin?

Good question. I'd be curious to know the answer to that as well.

Here's a question for anyone, I'm a cash game player, but I noticed I have a bunch of "Poker Tourney Money" in my wallet. The question is, what tournaments can I use this in? I've tried clicking various tournaments and in the registration I see the option for using "Poker Tourney Money" but it is blacked out/not usable for all the tourneys I've tried checking it on. I read somewhere that tourneys that you can use it on have a special symbol, but I haven't seemed to be able to find any. Does anyone know which tournaments this Poker Tourney Money can be used?
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August 04, 2016, 06:53:35 AM
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for the Betcoin ring games... do they use the same RNG as other WPN rooms, or is it a separate one specifically used by Betcoin?

Good question. I'd be curious to know the answer to that as well.

Here's a question for anyone, I'm a cash game player, but I noticed I have a bunch of "Poker Tourney Money" in my wallet. The question is, what tournaments can I use this in? I've tried clicking various tournaments and in the registration I see the option for using "Poker Tourney Money" but it is blacked out/not usable for all the tourneys I've tried checking it on. I read somewhere that tourneys that you can use it on have a special symbol, but I haven't seemed to be able to find any. Does anyone know which tournaments this Poker Tourney Money can be used?


I am not 100% sure (it's quite a bit am not playing poker anymore) but you can use your tourney money to register in those tournaments whose buyins are displayed in mBTC (they are betcoin own tournaments) instead the tournaments with buyins displayed in $ are the ones shared with Winning Tournament Network and (for what I can remember) you can't use "tourney money" to register there.

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Here's a question for anyone, I'm a cash game player, but I noticed I have a bunch of "Poker Tourney Money" in my wallet. The question is, what tournaments can I use this in? I've tried clicking various tournaments and in the registration I see the option for using "Poker Tourney Money" but it is blacked out/not usable for all the tourneys I've tried checking it on. I read somewhere that tourneys that you can use it on have a special symbol, but I haven't seemed to be able to find any. Does anyone know which tournaments this Poker Tourney Money can be used?


I am not 100% sure (it's quite a bit am not playing poker anymore) but you can use your tourney money to register in those tournaments whose buyins are displayed in mBTC (they are betcoin own tournaments) instead the tournaments with buyins displayed in $ are the ones shared with Winning Tournament Network and (for what I can remember) you can't use "tourney money" to register there.


Ahh, it appears you are correct. It seems to be only those tourneys with buy-ins in mBTC as you say. Thanks, man.
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Hey people.
I'd like to know if betcoin is preparing a mobile version  of the poker client?
Cause id like to play on my phone!

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August 04, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
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Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS)

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BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com

-> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing!

-> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud!

Fraud Act 2016

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(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).


Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or in Curacao or nowhere?

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25. GOVERNING LAW

These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability.

Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong?

How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense?

If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability?

Is the company who operates Betcoin.ag incorporated in Curacao and holds a worthless Curacao eGaming license?

If this is the case, what is the name of the company? Why is the name of the operator not stated on their website?

If Betcoin.ag has a valid license, why do they not state the seal on their website?

Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoin to something while you do not know who the operator is?

Would it matter for you if this something would have a gambling license, or do you not care at all?
 
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August 04, 2016, 10:33:28 PM
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Hey people.
I'd like to know if betcoin is preparing a mobile version  of the poker client?
Cause id like to play on my phone!

I haven't used it personally, but apparently it is already possible to play Betcoin poker on a mobile device. Not sure if it is still working as some players have had issues with it in the past.

See here: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-web-mobile-tablet-version-fixed-new-improvements

and here: https://www.betcoin.ag/play-betcoin-poker-your-mobile-phone-or-tablet

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August 05, 2016, 02:08:26 PM
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Hey people.
I'd like to know if betcoin is preparing a mobile version  of the poker client?
Cause id like to play on my phone!

I haven't used it personally, but apparently it is already possible to play Betcoin poker on a mobile device. Not sure if it is still working as some players have had issues with it in the past.

See here: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-web-mobile-tablet-version-fixed-new-improvements

and here: https://www.betcoin.ag/play-betcoin-poker-your-mobile-phone-or-tablet



It's a bit complicated and not the most stable ever but it works perfectly on average ^^

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August 07, 2016, 03:32:51 PM
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Forbidden.
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Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at betcoin.ag Port 80

Just tried to open the site because I want to see the schedule of the 250GTD tourney as I have a bonus ticket to use.
Any infos on whats happening with the site?

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August 07, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
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Forbidden.
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Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at betcoin.ag Port 80

Just tried to open the site because I want to see the schedule of the 250GTD tourney as I have a bonus ticket to use.
Any infos on whats happening with the site?

i get that also if i try to access https://www.betcoin.ag. but https://www.betcoin.ag/poker seems to work for me, so give that a try  Grin
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August 07, 2016, 04:21:53 PM
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Forbidden.
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at betcoin.ag Port 80

Just tried to open the site because I want to see the schedule of the 250GTD tourney as I have a bonus ticket to use.
Any infos on whats happening with the site?



Everything works fine here : either betcoin.ag ,  https://www.betcoin.ag/poker and poker client  as well.



Ayway 250 GTD starts in 2 hours and 54 minutes from this post time  and its registration starts in 54 minutes.  Smiley

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August 07, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
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Forbidden.
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at betcoin.ag Port 80

Just tried to open the site because I want to see the schedule of the 250GTD tourney as I have a bonus ticket to use.
Any infos on whats happening with the site?

i get that also if i try to access https://www.betcoin.ag. but https://www.betcoin.ag/poker seems to work for me, so give that a try  Grin

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August 07, 2016, 04:48:19 PM
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Hey people.
I'd like to know if betcoin is preparing a mobile version  of the poker client?
Cause id like to play on my phone!

I haven't used it personally, but apparently it is already possible to play Betcoin poker on a mobile device. Not sure if it is still working as some players have had issues with it in the past.

See here: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-web-mobile-tablet-version-fixed-new-improvements

and here: https://www.betcoin.ag/play-betcoin-poker-your-mobile-phone-or-tablet



It's a bit complicated and not the most stable ever but it works perfectly on average ^^

We are also working on the mobile version guys and it is coming soon!  We will keep you posted. 

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