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[TwitchySeal]

This is the 2nd time in the last couple of months that you've offered people money to post ass-kissing things.  Could you please take that money and use it to pay back all of the players that you overraked?  I promise you, if you do the right thing and pay back the money you stole you'll get WAY more positive feedback.

It's not even so much the ass kissing that bothers me, this is just a straight popularity contest. People who hang out in chat (or moderate chat like plo8) all day were upvoted the most and awarded the tickets, with the notable exception of jonnyrocket who was downvoted to -9, wonder why. I nominate plo8 for Betcoin Homecoming Queen.

I think this "Tell Me You Love Me" promo is a reaction to geting caught paying for good reviews (and maybe because one of the top shills, ftwbtc1, got busted in the same week) 

Remember the circumstances leading up to their last "Tell Me You Love Me" promo a couple months ago?

I think when Jessica decided to call out dooglus for not being trusted was the beginning of a mental breakdown or something.

Dooglus, we had nearly 200 players on dice alone in the last 24 hours with no errors, but you seem to have an issue.  Does this have anything to do with your negative trust rating here at BitcoinTalk?  What is going on here?  I am just the forum rep but we have had no reported problems in the last 2 months and all of a sudden I see this.  You certainly have no tickets at Betcoin.ag on the matter.  

Jessica

Betcoin was still responding to me once in a while to offer bonuses for me to come back to their site: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13130775#msg13130775

They continued to respond to softballs from ftwbtc and hopenotlate, while ignoring questions about why they made claims about being owned by BetCris (when they weren't) or other similiar issues.

Then they got caught in another lie, claiming a user couldn't possibly have 9 month old tickets because it was a new system (it wasn't) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13152864#msg13152864

They started responding to posts they had already responded to a week earlier: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13152864#msg13152864

Then there was this classic response:

What is the point of having a thread like this if every time someone asks a difficult question you spam the same 3 posts on top of it to hide the difficult question?

Please either answer the questions or explicitly admit that you don't want to answer them. Repeatedly spamming the same out-of-date information about tournaments that already finished is annoying, ugly, and rude.

What question(s) do you want answered?  There are no difficult questions.  We know as we grow you can't please everyone but we certainly try.  We continue to experience very good growth in this industry and we are continuing to work on some remarkable improvements at Betcoin.  Fortunately, people enjoy experiencing opportunities for themselves and when they do experience Betcoin they stay at Betcoin.  Can improvements be made?  Absolutely and they will.  When your goal is to be the best gaming destination in the world, you will face many obstacles, however we will always do right by our wonderful players.  We know twitchyseal is so passionate because he had a great experience at Betcoin, he was in the community many hours daily even up until the ban.  He built up good account equity and made some friends with players and staff that still talk about him today.  If it wasn't something of value he would not spend this much time on a forum.  Betcoin's team is well funded and highly experienced and we look forward to providing an exceptional place to play for many years to come.  

We don't endorse ftwbtc1's statement but there is some truth in it.  The only thing this dialogue does is drive more people to at least read about Betcoin and some visit and when they do they become long time players and for that we are very thankful. 

My Personal Favorite:

In an attempt to be more responsive, yet still keep customer support inquires at the site www.betcoin.ag/support we are wondering if this is a complaint or how to respond here?  Should we not have thank a poster after a certain time period?  May we point out that you are commenting on a post from over 2 months ago as well.

The last post was December 5th

Dec 10th, was the day I posted about about how they were knowingly over raking players for the past month.

After not activity since December 5th, this was their first post back:

BetcoinPoker.com is giving away 10 mbtc to the first 25 players that respond in this thread with their Betcoin username to experience the ring games at Betcoin.ag.  Simply respond with your Betcoin.ag username and we will add 10 mbtc directly to your poker balance for play in the ring games.  Your wallet access will be locked during this promotion which will last for 2 hours.  Once the two hour period is up your account will be reviewed and you can use the btc remaining to experience Betcoin.ag. 

The top 5 ring game players will also be given a daily coin ticket each (value 50 mbtc) to play in the 1 BTC Daily Coin at Betcoin Poker.  We also appreciate any feedback, anytime. 

[Betcoin.AG]

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[Betcoin.AG]

Sunday Special 270 BTC ($115,000) Freeroll Super Sat at Betcoin Poker

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[TwitchySeal]

Sunday Special 270 BTC ($115,000) Freeroll Super Sat at Betcoin Poker

Five seats are up for grabs today in the Sunday Special 270 BTC ($115,000) Freeroll Super Sat at Betcoin Poker. That's right for free you can win a seat into the 270 BTC ($115,000) tournament that takes place on Sunday at Betcoin Poker. Check for the tournament in the Betcoin Poker lobby now. The tournament starts at 12:15pm EST. Good luck!

That is a WPN freeroll they have all the time.  It's a super satellite, the 5 seats they are giving away are worth $6 each, not $215. 





In other news, your players got another phishing scam email this week.  Any idea why?



Phishing attempts sent to emails that were used only to register Betcoin account.
They have not accepted responsibility.

(The first email is actually from Betcoin, I think, and likely related )

From: Betcoin.ag Casino, Poker & Sports
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:18 AM
To: xxxxxxxxx
Subject: 5 BTC VIP Freeroll & Mandatory Password Reset for the New Year


{username},
Betcoin is excited to present the Betcoin Poker Players Club 5 BTC New Years Freeroll on January 10, 2016. This is a ticket only event and all players with Bronze I level or higher VIP / Player's Club status will receive a ticket by January 8, 2016. Players that have been active on Betcoin may also receive a ticket at the managers sole discretion.
https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-players-club-vip-5-btc-new-years-freeroll
Password Change For the new year, with a new update starting on December 30, 2015, Betcoin.ag is requiring you to change your password for your security and to properly sync you with the new backend system. Please use a password that is not your current or previous password at Betcoin.ag for the utmost security.
Poker In addition to the 5 BTC Freeroll, Betcoin Poker offers up to 150% rakeback for starting cash and ring game tables as well as tournaments with up to $1,000,000 worth of bitcoin in GTD prizepools. There is no better place to play poker.
Sportsbook We will continue to bring you the best prematch and thousands of live events every month to Betcoin Sports including an extended eSports section and many new promotions.
Casino We have expanded our mobile casino, live and regular casino offerings and will continue to add new providers throughout 2016. Please also be sure to checkout our dice tournaments which include a daily freeroll.
It has been an exciting year for Betcoin.ag and we look forward to providing a wonderful experience in 2016 and beyond. As always, we appreciate your feedback and thank you for your support. Good luck in the 5 BTC Freeroll!
Sincerely,
Jessica White Betcoin.ag BetcoinSports.com BetcoinCasino.com BetcoinPoker.com BetcoinPartners.com
____ To change which emails you receive go here: https://www.betcoin.ag/notification/settings

From: US3 Online Marketplace [mailto:invoce-notices@vh262717.hostline.su]
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:34 PM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: Invoice #841897

Invoice #841897

Attachment: Invoice.zip (56 kb)  [did not open]

From: Betcoin
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 2:19 PM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: Important security update.

xxxxxxx,

We are fixing the cases of unauthorized access to user accounts Betcoin and funds theft.
If you want to protect your account, you need to change password of your Betcoin account and make client update: https://www.betcoin.ag/auupdate?token=mmQQSikkaBFaqvJzhntcSeDAdxvbg879
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Link: http://141.105.69.206/dn/?e=V1hwT2JFNUVaM2RhVkZKQllqTkNhR1ZZUlhWWk1qbDA=

From: Bitstamp
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:07 AM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: Important security updates

From: sales@myshoppingworlds.com
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 10:18 PM
Subject: Invoice

Body: Empty
Attachment: invoice.zip attached (52kb)

From: Support Team
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:47 AM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: Security Update

Hello,
please download and install new serurity update.


Support Team

"download" is hyperlink to: http://178.33.182.131/security.exe

[wwwin]

So how is your email being targeted if you only used it to sign up with Betcoin?  Those are some nasty attempts to gain access to your computer. I never got them. Wonder if somebody else got them. If not, it looks that you got a bulls eye on you for pointing out the rake overcharge and other stuff.

[DarkDays]

So how is your email being targeted if you only used it to sign up with Betcoin?  Those are some nasty attempts to gain access to your computer. I never got them. Wonder if somebody else got them. If not, it looks that you got a bulls eye on you for pointing out the rake overcharge and other stuff.

Many Betcoin players got these scam emails, myself included.  When the first one was sent the entire chat box was filled with players wanting answers.  No answers came nor have they come in the time since.  But it's very clear that someone got access to sensitive customer data and is using that data to try to gain access to those customer's computers.  Betcoin should let it's customers know what happened and what info was compromised.

[TwitchySeal]

Is everyone excited for the big announcement betcoins been working on for months tomorrow?

[Betcoin.AG]

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[TwitchySeal]

The players demand it and we continue to to produce one of the biggest online poker tournaments at Betcoin Poker.

The players demand you return the funds you stole. 

[FLoving]

I don't understand... there are some issues with their service or all work fine?
I am a poker player on pokerstars... It worth switch on such platform?
Sorry for the newbie question but I am new of this world!

[TwitchySeal]

I don't understand... there are some issues with their service or all work fine?
I am a poker player on pokerstars... It worth switch on such platform?
Sorry for the newbie question but I am new of this world!

If you really want to play tournaments for Bitcoin, I suggest 5dimes, BetDSI, or bookmaker.eu   

You can play all the big field tournaments that Betcoin has and more plus spin n gos, and way more cash game action.

Betcoin is dishonest and doesn't deserve anyone's business at this point, read this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.40

[wwwin]

I don't understand... there are some issues with their service or all work fine?
I am a poker player on pokerstars... It worth switch on such platform?
Sorry for the newbie question but I am new of this world!

If you really want to play tournaments for Bitcoin, I suggest 5dimes, BetDSI, or bookmaker.eu   

You can play all the big field tournaments that Betcoin has and more plus spin n gos, and way more cash game action.

Betcoin is dishonest and doesn't deserve anyone's business at this point, read this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.40

I wonder why you don't mention Americas Cardroom and Black Chip poker, they are on the same network at BeDSI and Bookmaker.eu and the also take bitcoin...any difference?

[TwitchySeal]

I don't understand... there are some issues with their service or all work fine?
I am a poker player on pokerstars... It worth switch on such platform?
Sorry for the newbie question but I am new of this world!

If you really want to play tournaments for Bitcoin, I suggest 5dimes, BetDSI, or bookmaker.eu   

You can play all the big field tournaments that Betcoin has and more plus spin n gos, and way more cash game action.

Betcoin is dishonest and doesn't deserve anyone's business at this point, read this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.40

I wonder why you don't mention Americas Cardroom and Black Chip poker, they are on the same network at BeDSI and Bookmaker.eu and the also take bitcoin...any difference?

I hear there are currently issues with Bitcoin withdraws at ACR, some players dont have the option, I think Blackchip may have the same issues but can't say for sure. 

Also, both those sites require dox and wont let players register from certain countries or US States. 

The ones I mentioned don't care where you live and don't require dox.

[wwwin]

I don't understand... there are some issues with their service or all work fine?
I am a poker player on pokerstars... It worth switch on such platform?
Sorry for the newbie question but I am new of this world!

If you really want to play tournaments for Bitcoin, I suggest 5dimes, BetDSI, or bookmaker.eu  

You can play all the big field tournaments that Betcoin has and more plus spin n gos, and way more cash game action.

Betcoin is dishonest and doesn't deserve anyone's business at this point, read this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.40

I wonder why you don't mention Americas Cardroom and Black Chip poker, they are on the same network at BeDSI and Bookmaker.eu and the also take bitcoin...any difference?

I hear there are currently issues with Bitcoin withdraws at ACR, some players dont have the option, I think Blackchip may have the same issues but can't say for sure.  

Also, both those sites require dox and wont let players register from certain countries or US States.  

The ones I mentioned don't care where you live and don't require dox.

OK thanks. I think the BTC issue on ACR and BCP has  been resolved. Does 5dimes require dox? I think they do.

[TwitchySeal]

I don't understand... there are some issues with their service or all work fine?
I am a poker player on pokerstars... It worth switch on such platform?
Sorry for the newbie question but I am new of this world!

If you really want to play tournaments for Bitcoin, I suggest 5dimes, BetDSI, or bookmaker.eu  

You can play all the big field tournaments that Betcoin has and more plus spin n gos, and way more cash game action.

Betcoin is dishonest and doesn't deserve anyone's business at this point, read this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.40

I wonder why you don't mention Americas Cardroom and Black Chip poker, they are on the same network at BeDSI and Bookmaker.eu and the also take bitcoin...any difference?

I hear there are currently issues with Bitcoin withdraws at ACR, some players dont have the option, I think Blackchip may have the same issues but can't say for sure.  

Also, both those sites require dox and wont let players register from certain countries or US States.  

The ones I mentioned don't care where you live and don't require dox.

OK thanks. I think the BTC issue on ACR and BCP has  been resolved. Does 5dimes require dox? I think they do.

Not if you only use Bitcoin.

I cashed out over 25 BTC recently from 5dimes in under 3 hours.

Tip: After requesting cashout from any of those site, keep an eye on your spam folder, sometimes the confirmation email you have to respond to ends up there.

[Betcoin.AG]

Watch the final three in the Betcoin Poker Sunday Special 260 BTC GTD ($115,000) Poker Tournament right now!

[TwitchySeal]

Hi

I'm being told that if a player buys into the $200+15 Betcoin Poker Sunday Special, they will only receive VIP rewards based on a $7.50 fee, even though they pay $15.  

Lets say the player is silver 1 (like I was before you closed my account)

And $15=34 chips

According to your terms found here: https://www.betcoin.ag/vip

The player should expect 170 status points, and 26.6% of the $15 fee returned ($3.99 or ~9 chips)

This was sort of clarified in this post: https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-affiliate-rakeback-tourney-fees-betcoin-explained

Betcoin receives 50% of the fees players pay when entering WPN tournaments and sitngos. For the VIP program Betcoin pays you as if Betcoin had received 100% of the fee even though Betcoin received only 50% of the fee.

HOWEVER,

It one of your affiliates (the one you pay more than any other affiliate) has posted that Betcoin only rewards their players 50% of what they advertise for tournaments on the WPN.

This would explain why I was missing almost half of my rakeback, but Andrew and William never thought to mention they were paying everyone half of what was advertised.

Please clarify.


If Betcoin ignores me as usual, could someone who they usually respond to please repeat question?

[TwitchySeal]

So I noticed recently Xiao posted this:

Also please note that for WPN shared tournaments only 50% of the rake you pay counts towards VIP and my rakeback service as the other 50% goes to the WPN network.

So I did some investigating because I have paid thousands in WPN MTT fees and never heard of this. It's not mentioned anywhere on Betcoins site.  In a forum post I found, they even stated the oppopsite:

https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-affiliate-rakeback-tourney-fees-betcoin-explained

Betcoin receives 50% of the fees players pay when entering WPN tournaments and sitngos. For the VIP program Betcoin pays you as if Betcoin had received 100% of the fee even though Betcoin received only 50% of the fee.

September 1st I opened a ticket because of significant missing rakeback and status points which lead to my eventual ban and all of this when they refused to address the situation so I decided to ask support if it was true.

It was my lucky day as the ever so pleasant "Expert Support Supervisor" George was on duty:

Betcoin George
Expert Support Supervisor Chat started

Hi, Im trying to figure out if betcoin has been paying 50% or 100% of vip rewards for WPN mtts

Are you an affiliate or a VIP?

i was a VIP till you banned me

So if your banned why does it matter?

because I want to know how much you technically owe me and all the other players xiao made a post saying you only pay 50% vip rewards, and that shouldn't be the case, but it would explain why i was missing so much rakeback

I will not waste my time on a player like you my energy is better spent helping others. Anything said to you in a manner becomes a way for you to run to the forums. If we banned you nothing is owed to you. You are a very sad person find something better to do with your time other than to try to hurt others.

im just trying to get the truth

I am a big believer that all you put out there will come back tenfold. Take care. I am done with this conversation.

I'm guessing george wasnt the employee who wrote me this pm recently:

The staff looks at all the work you put in and appreciates your work ethic and commitment.  You really should be earning good bitcoin and building equity instead of having everything deleted from Betcoin or moved to the next page of the forum as more posts are added.  Ultimately, you just waste time while keeping Betcoin on the front page of the thread which means more traffic, more signature campaign members, etc.  We think you have a strong work ethic and could be a great contributor as you once were.  The amount of time and energy you have put in so far is truly remarkable.  It shows us that we have something special because every great company has people this passionate, but we want to channel your passion to help you more as you once were a great member of the community.  We look forward to your thoughts.

[Betcoin.AG]

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For this promo, only 10 tickets will be awarded to the comments that receive the most net likes. This promotion will expire March 2, 2016 at 8pm EST at which point all tickets will be awarded within an hour after the expiration. One ticket per person. No account created after this promotion was posted will be considered for a ticket and anyone caught multi-accounting is subject to account block and funds seizure.

Thank you and good luck!

[TwitchySeal]

Will there be an update?


 


Will you address this please?

So I noticed recently Xiao posted this:

Also please note that for WPN shared tournaments only 50% of the rake you pay counts towards VIP and my rakeback service as the other 50% goes to the WPN network.

So I did some investigating because I have paid thousands in WPN MTT fees and never heard of this. It's not mentioned anywhere on Betcoins site.  In a forum post I found, they even stated the oppopsite:

https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-affiliate-rakeback-tourney-fees-betcoin-explained

Betcoin receives 50% of the fees players pay when entering WPN tournaments and sitngos. For the VIP program Betcoin pays you as if Betcoin had received 100% of the fee even though Betcoin received only 50% of the fee.

September 1st I opened a ticket because of significant missing rakeback and status points which lead to my eventual ban and all of this when they refused to address the situation so I decided to ask support if it was true.

It was my lucky day as the ever so pleasant "Expert Support Supervisor" George was on duty:

Betcoin George
Expert Support Supervisor Chat started

Hi, Im trying to figure out if betcoin has been paying 50% or 100% of vip rewards for WPN mtts

Are you an affiliate or a VIP?

i was a VIP till you banned me

So if your banned why does it matter?

because I want to know how much you technically owe me and all the other players xiao made a post saying you only pay 50% vip rewards, and that shouldn't be the case, but it would explain why i was missing so much rakeback

I will not waste my time on a player like you my energy is better spent helping others. Anything said to you in a manner becomes a way for you to run to the forums. If we banned you nothing is owed to you. You are a very sad person find something better to do with your time other than to try to hurt others.

im just trying to get the truth

I am a big believer that all you put out there will come back tenfold. Take care. I am done with this conversation.

I'm guessing george wasnt the employee who wrote me this pm recently:

The staff looks at all the work you put in and appreciates your work ethic and commitment.  You really should be earning good bitcoin and building equity instead of having everything deleted from Betcoin or moved to the next page of the forum as more posts are added.  Ultimately, you just waste time while keeping Betcoin on the front page of the thread which means more traffic, more signature campaign members, etc.  We think you have a strong work ethic and could be a great contributor as you once were.  The amount of time and energy you have put in so far is truly remarkable.  It shows us that we have something special because every great company has people this passionate, but we want to channel your passion to help you more as you once were a great member of the community.  We look forward to your thoughts.