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Author Topic: 🚩 Bitcasino.io – the FUN, FAST and FAIR gaming experience! 🚩  (Read 196282 times)
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April 08, 2016, 03:43:58 AM
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Stay away from their mini BJ its questionable and also stay away from their bet on poker its questionable also. Too many fishy outcomes for it to be deemed fair



Yoo, As a long time gambler, i only play Blackjack on their site, and i only play every hand by the book.  So depending on a few things, the odds should be about 49/51%, in favor of the house.   I got my overall deposits and withdrawals,  

I've deposited over 140 BTC's  and withdrew about 80, I agree with you, it's not even close to anything that matches up to what the odds should be.  I've lost way more coins on other sites, but this site just strikes me as questionable.  

I even contacted support after they got 4 blackjacks in a row, I just wanted my hand history for my previous 30 bets emailed to me, they couldnt do it.  
Nothing can be verified, everything is vague, all i know is i get a 50 dollar gift from amazon every 6 months.  

And now they moved to Curacao.  This is a incredibly shady island in the Netherlands-Antilles,  I happen to know because I lived, there and two other islands in the Dutch Antilles, for several years.  And 2 things Im sure about, 1) They barely have enough technology to access the internet, and 2) Their entire economy revolves around ripping off Americans and Canadians.  

I wouldnt go near this site with free money, and I've actually developed that opinion over the course of 9 months.  So this isn't a "Bad gambling frustrating remark",  this site, the fucking island of Curacao especially, and nothing can be verified,  waaay to shady for me

Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.
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April 08, 2016, 05:35:49 AM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
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April 08, 2016, 05:42:04 AM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

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April 08, 2016, 05:52:39 AM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

There is no way thaat OP could prove that the livegames is not rigged. The livegames are provided by a 3rd party and of course without any doubt the OP will say that the game is not rigged, no one would ever admit mistakes that could lower his credibility which is why there is no reason to wait for official answers
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April 08, 2016, 07:47:41 AM
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@jpoker272727

It is unfortunate that you have lost more coins at Bitcasino.io than you think is right. In terms of your hand history, we will be able to provide it, please e-mail us from your registered address with the request and we will get it processed.

Also, most of the blackjack games (and slots) have hand history available in the game.

In terms of our licensing then i can assure you that we are in the middle of application processes for more than one highly regarded EU licenses. Unfortunately some licenses have a very long due diligence process (6-18 months depending on the size of the business), especially when bitcoin is involved, but rest assured that we are putting in the maximum effort and resources to speed up the process. Our main goal is to increase awareness, and to educate, about bitcoin in the general public. A lot of effort also goes into communicating, explaining and educating governmental institutions about the potential of Bitcoin. Of course we are not the only Bitcoin focused establishment doing so, there are many others from different parts of the bitcoin community.

But how much licensing is sufficient? How much bureacracy is enough to create trust? We believe that having signed papers, certificates and other relevant things is great, but ultimately it is about how fast we can process our withdrawals, how well we can communicate with our users and how transparent we can be about our operation. Most people know that ultimately it comes down to how good the staff and services are, not about how much certifications and licenses a company can show-off.

@Lucky7btc


It would be great if the authenticity of Betgames.TV could be verified by any single user, but at the moment it is not possible. Although, we are in talks with them to start using the Provably Fair concept.

From our side, we can assure you that all of their games have gone through thorough testing, verification and certification by independent authorities. I am sure that we have a lot of users who are satisfied with their games but do not bother writing about their experience on the forums.

As you know, we welcome any and all feedback to try and improve the users experience.

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April 08, 2016, 07:55:55 AM
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PISHING EMAIL WARNING



Posting this to warn all Bitcasino players and also Bitcasino staff that approx 4/5 hours ago I received a pishing email claiming my Bitcasino.io account was temporarily locked because of multiple failed login attempts and providing me a link to unlock it.

It appeared to be sent from Bitcasino but clicking on the sender field my mail browser displayed the sending address and discovered it came from unlock@betcasino.io (with an "e" instead of a "i")

Maybe Bitcasino should investigate it a bit and made a warning here and/or on their Site and/or sending a newletter to their customers.

Also wondering if someone else received same message.

Here is a copy/paste of that email:


" From:  BitCasino.IO      (unlock@betcasino.io)
  Subject:  Your account temporarily locked
  to:  xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx
  date: 8/04/2016 03:12:03
   

Hi, your account temporarily locked.
Reason: Multiple failed authentication.
For unlocking your account go to link."

/cp


I cut the link out not to run the risk someone could click on it and so on... but maybe it could  interesting to investigate it for someone more expert than me.


    

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April 08, 2016, 08:47:41 AM
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PISHING EMAIL WARNING



Posting this to warn all Bitcasino players and also Bitcasino staff that approx 4/5 hours ago I received a pishing email claiming my Bitcasino.io account was temporarily locked because of multiple failed login attempts and providing me a link to unlock it.

It appeared to be sent from Bitcasino but clicking on the sender field my mail browser displayed the sending address and discovered it came from unlock@betcasino.io (with an "e" instead of a "i")

Maybe Bitcasino should investigate it a bit and made a warning here and/or on their Site and/or sending a newletter to their customers.

Also wondering if someone else received same message.

Here is a copy/paste of that email:


" From:  BitCasino.IO      (unlock@betcasino.io)
  Subject:  Your account temporarily locked
  to:  xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx
  date: 8/04/2016 03:12:03
   

Hi, your account temporarily locked.
Reason: Multiple failed authentication.
For unlocking your account go to link."

/cp


I cut the link out not to run the risk someone could click on it and so on... but maybe it could  interesting to investigate it for someone more expert than me.


    

Thanks for the heads up @hopenotlate I never click on links within a email, so I am fairly safe from this, but I might have a bad day and then be absent minded and click on it by mistake. You might consider 2FA on your account to block any attempts at unauthorized entry.

These guys see people commenting on the forum and then they target them with these attacks. The only way to reduce the change of losing money, would be not to store large amounts of bitcoins on a gambling site.

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April 08, 2016, 08:59:54 AM
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For now we only got 2 reports about it. One of the players received something the same from another casino, details here: https://www.betcoin.ag/ignore-phishing-attempts-betcoin-not-offering-bonus-change-password. At the moment it seems there was a group of emails connected, but no signs someone stoled our database. But we are investigating.

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April 08, 2016, 09:05:49 AM
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PISHING EMAIL WARNING

This is from the people that got Betcoin.ag user login/email early last January the same week that they announced a mandatory PW change for every single player.

The same email described above was sent to an email address only ever used to register for Betcoin.ag today at 1:56 am EST with a phishing link leading through a russian site and landing on a similiar url as bitcasino with "bitcoindrugs" added.

A couple weeks ago, they sent this email:



It linked to a casino that looked exactly like Bitcasino, but was only a cashier with deposit address and an ad to download free vpn.

Since January Betcoin.ag has been asked probably close to 100 times by various users how someone got their users login/email info.  Their only response has been that they were not hacked.

Here are some examples of other phishing attempts made by the same people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379083.0


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April 08, 2016, 10:30:34 AM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.
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April 08, 2016, 01:45:43 PM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

So there's a guy with a username of a different bitcoin casino, link in the signature as well, discrediting a competitor? Seems legit!
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April 08, 2016, 01:56:45 PM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
Training dealers to slip cards and faking hands seems highly shady. If proof can be shown of a screen capture or better yet a video of the incident then this claim would be something that can make all these live dealer sites go under. In that way, "the game is up." if it can be done.

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April 08, 2016, 01:58:59 PM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

So there's a guy with a username of a different bitcoin casino, link in the signature as well, discrediting a competitor? Seems legit!

Not another casino, even worse.  It's scummy affiliate site owner proving he A)doesn't mind advertising sites he thinks are scams and B)Is unaware that when you run around crying rigged in a forum without any rational explanation or proof - you will only make a fool of yourself.

From his own site:

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April 08, 2016, 02:00:12 PM
 #1414

Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

So there's a guy with a username of a different bitcoin casino, link in the signature as well, discrediting a competitor? Seems legit!

Listen here, I'm not here to discredit anyone. I made it clear as day. GO PLAY THE GAME FOR YOURSELF - MAKE BETS OF 20 mBTC or better and come tell me if they game is legit. GO PLAY IT!!!! GEEZ
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April 08, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
 #1415

Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

So there's a guy with a username of a different bitcoin casino, link in the signature as well, discrediting a competitor? Seems legit!

Not another casino, even worse.  It's scummy affiliate site owner proving he A)doesn't mind advertising sites he thinks are scams and B)Is unaware that when you run around crying rigged in a forum without any rational explanation or proof - you will only make a fool of yourself.

From his own site:



What does that has to do with anything? You trying to discredit me - But instead you should at least go play the damn games and see for yourself. Its not hard to do - logon go to betonpoker place some large bets on high percentage hands and see how the dealer will pull out the impossible to win. Its clear as day they are rigging the dog gone games.
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April 08, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
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Hello,

We are aware that some of our users have received suspicious e-mails asking them to "Unlock their locked account" with a link inside going to a random dangerous website.

From our research and investigation it looks like someone has obtained a list of e-mails from an external website. It may be a forum, news site with newsletter lists or something different. This has been an issue for a number of other gambling service providers during the last month.

At the moment only a handful of our users have received such an e-mail but we want to make sure all of you are aware of the possibility.

We strongly recommend anyone who has received this e-mail to change their password on the website and to also Enable Google Authenticator which will make account breaches almost impossible without having access to your phone.

PS: After changing your password there is a 48-hour cooldown for withdrawals.

PPS: We will never ask for your password nor will we ever ask you to click on any links to unlock your account.

Stay safe!
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April 08, 2016, 05:27:25 PM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

I thought it was pretty sketch too, I don't see how they can change the cards though. I sat there and watch for a good 20 minutes trying to see something lol.


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April 08, 2016, 06:06:03 PM
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What does that has to do with anything? You trying to discredit me - But instead you should at least go play the damn games and see for yourself. Its not hard to do - logon go to betonpoker place some large bets on high percentage hands and see how the dealer will pull out the impossible to win. Its clear as day they are rigging the dog gone games.

I'm not here to prove the game is or isn't rigged, you are.

I'm just telling you that when someone goes on rant about how they are so sure a game is rigged and they were cheated but can't articulate what actually happened other than "Images can be manipulate thru the feed. Its rigged I tell ya" , it's pretty safe to assume the reason they can't explain the issue is because it only exists in their own brain.

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April 08, 2016, 06:57:28 PM
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What does that has to do with anything? You trying to discredit me - But instead you should at least go play the damn games and see for yourself. Its not hard to do - logon go to betonpoker place some large bets on high percentage hands and see how the dealer will pull out the impossible to win. Its clear as day they are rigging the dog gone games.

I'm not here to prove the game is or isn't rigged, you are.

I'm just telling you that when someone goes on rant about how they are so sure a game is rigged and they were cheated but can't articulate what actually happened other than "Images can be manipulate thru the feed. Its rigged I tell ya" , it's pretty safe to assume the reason they can't explain the issue is because it only exists in their own brain.

IT IS RIGGED! You don't have to take my word. Go play it yourself. Bet 20 mBTC or more and you will see it. Place your bets on the cards that has a greater chances of the player to win and see the manipulation that happens. You just don't make this stuff up. Go test it for yourself...
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April 08, 2016, 07:00:19 PM
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Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

I thought it was pretty sketch too, I don't see how they can change the cards though. I sat there and watch for a good 20 minutes trying to see something lol.

Its in the live feed. Its not as it appears on camera. There's a video on youtube where this guys shows a live casino manipulating the results thru the feed. This is what they are doing with their live games including blackjack.
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