Coinye [KOI/COYE] You can't kill a gayfish.

[alberttalj]

I am currently coding the first decentralized protocol exchange, I have planned to launch this protocol with a coin tbd.

I was hoping that I could give the Coinye community a decentralized place to exchange Coye.

This exchange is p2p.

Thanks,
Gadsden

-get back to me! (PM)

Great idea...since crypto is decentralized, maybe it is time for decentralizing the exchanges as well.
The there is sure as hell no-one to scare into closing down.
Would like to see how this pan out.
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[rutzap]

I'm not accusing anyone or making any assumptions... I'm just putting this out in the hope that a reasonable, decent, argument-based discussion would infirm or confirm my thoughts:

Do you think crycurex is just a scam and the Cease and Desist letter from yesterday is a forgery that acts as a false pretext to shutdown and not pay out any coins??

I want to make this clear; I am not accusing anyone.. I'm just wandering

PS: I haven't invested anything in crycurex (couldn't get a wallet); I'm not affected by it; I'm just curious. What do you think?

[Extornia]

Since when is an email cease and desist eligible? To my knowledge it must be sent via postal mail.

[Zombie123]

The website is in beta .. The guy just couldn't handle shit.. probably used COYE to make site visible and now wants to dump it..

[flowerpots]

This first thing I would do is to ask the lawyer to write the letter in MY LANGUAGE. I think everyone has the right not to understand English.

[KrvnoZrnce]

I'm not accusing anyone or making any assumptions... I'm just putting this out in the hope that a reasonable, decent, argument-based discussion would infirm or confirm my thoughts:

Do you think crycurex is just a scam and the Cease and Desist letter from yesterday is a forgery that acts as a false pretext to shutdown and not pay out any coins??

I want to make this clear; I am not accusing anyone.. I'm just wandering

PS: I haven't invested anything in crycurex (couldn't get a wallet); I'm not affected by it; I'm just curious. What do you think?

At the moment I would say yes. If I get my coins (not much) I will change my mind and promote them again

At the moment, everything that is going on with crycurex doesn't make any sense (the letter itself, different signatures, explanation of different signatures from crycurex.com, taking them a lot of time to delist one coin, manually confirming deposits...).

[hughbt]

Since when is an email cease and desist eligible? To my knowledge it must be sent via postal mail.

ITS JUST A WARNING, its not binding, it could be even signed by Brad Rose's dog, doesn't matter.

[KrvnoZrnce]

Since when is an email cease and desist eligible? To my knowledge it must be sent via postal mail.

ITS JUST A WARNING, its not binding, it could be even signed by Brad Rose's dog, doesn't matter.

You are basically saying that anybody could have sent that letter and that it should be treated as a warning nevertheless...

BTW, read this:
http://womeninbusiness.about.com/od/copyrightlaws/a/Can-Send-Email-Cease-Desist-Order-Letter.htm

and another:
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/if-i-receive-a-cease-and-desist-letter-through-ema-787030.html

[backtrackit]

WTF has the guy who ran http://crycurex.com/ run off with all the coins from the site...can't login no more and had all my coye there?

[lonesoul]

Since when is an email cease and desist eligible? To my knowledge it must be sent via postal mail.

ITS JUST A WARNING, its not binding, it could be even signed by Brad Rose's dog, doesn't matter.

You are basically saying that anybody could have sent that letter and that it should be treated as a warning nevertheless...
If the letter is signed then it MUST be signature of the person ho is signing it and signature HAS to be THE SAME ON EVERY LETTER NOT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

Sorry buddy but that bit in red just isn't correct i believe, At work we send out lots of letters from the managing director, and we sign on his behalf, If the signature is preceeded with a     PP.  ( per procurationem latin for "through the agency of" )  it retains all the legal standings



I am also dubious about the letter, which firm of lawyers doesn't have a letterhead?



Also in  the original application to sue everyone (the one that contained Jane and John Does 1-50)  they reffered to Kanye as "Ye" in several places which made me question the legitimacy of the document itself As im not a huge fan of the bonehead is "Ye" a widely accepted term for Kanye or his estate?



Also  for the latest letter being a scam to be able to close down a site without paying out coins, i like the thinking of the guy that suggested this. you are very sneaky sneaky sir!

[hughbt]

No, it must not. Like I said, its just a warning, not an official letter form court or something like that. If Brad Rose is aware of it, and let somebody else to sign it for him, everything is ok. How do you prove, that its not his signature, if he will be claiming that he signed it? If they will take official, legal steps, then its gonna matter.

BTW
We shouldn't even argue about this case, and this pathetic exchange, crycurex is done, and I'm not gonna cry after it.
We have to wait for fully professional exchange, not amateur site.

[ratcatcher]

Sorry buddy but that bit in red just isn't correct i believe, At work we send out lots of letters from the managing director, and we sign on his behalf, If the signature is preceeded with a     PP.  ( per procurationem latin for "through the agency of" )  it retains all the legal standings

Yes, but when you "PP" a letter, you would normally sign your OWN name, not the name of the person the letter is from.

In other words I might sign "Fred Bloggs" and underneath, where "Joe Smith" is printed, I would write "PP" before it.

It would not be normal to sign someone else's name on a letter - that's forgery, plain and simple.

[hughbt]

And please tell me one more thing: from what e-mail address they received that letter?

[driftwhisper]

WTF crycurex, I had 674,000 coye on there. I made a withdrawal right after news of the C&D.
That was yesterday, still haven't received my coye.

[KrvnoZrnce]

Since when is an email cease and desist eligible? To my knowledge it must be sent via postal mail.

ITS JUST A WARNING, its not binding, it could be even signed by Brad Rose's dog, doesn't matter.

You are basically saying that anybody could have sent that letter and that it should be treated as a warning nevertheless...
If the letter is signed then it MUST be signature of the person ho is signing it and signature HAS to be THE SAME ON EVERY LETTER NOT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

Sorry buddy but that bit in red just isn't correct i believe, At work we send out lots of letters from the managing director, and we sign on his behalf, If the signature is preceeded with a     PP.  ( per procurationem latin for "through the agency of" )  it retains all the legal standings



I am also dubious about the letter, which firm of lawyers doesn't have a letterhead?



Also in  the original application to sue everyone (the one that contained Jane and John Does 1-50)  they reffered to Kanye as "Ye" in several places which made me question the legitimacy of the document itself As im not a huge fan of the bonehead is "Ye" a widely accepted term for Kanye or his estate?



Also  for the latest letter being a scam to be able to close down a site without paying out coins, i like the thinking of the guy that suggested this. you are very sneaky sneaky sir!

I removed that part of the post cause after thinking it through I actually said to myself: cut the crap, you don't know that and we don't need false information right now!

But, that would mean that I could sign as Brad Rose and send whatever mail I want and that's ok? How can it be ok?

@hughbt
Why would we prove that it's not his signature. The quiestion is, how can he prove that those ARE his signatures if they are completely different?
As lawyers clearly say (in those links I posted), it's legally ok to send this type of letter by email, but if you have a big issue (meaning a big lawsuit) and serious thoughts about your lawsuit you won't be sending it by email because it's a weak evidence and THEY would have a hard time proving that those mails are their and that are in the original form!

[backtrackit]

Hi,

This is from the cryturex oficial staff on irc support chanel:

Code:

<ThisWeeksCoin> Guys, crycurex contacted me 
<ThisWeeksCoin> We are goin to reverse all trades and withdrawals back to date 22.1, at 17:00 CET, as there was multiple price error, and some trades were not executed at correct prices. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> That means, every user will have same balances as he/she had on 22.1 at 17:00 CET 
<ThisWeeksCoin> Pending withdrawals have been cancelled and you may request withdrawal again. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> Deposits made after 21.1, 17:00 CET are already credited on user´s account. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> We will contact those, who received withdrawal between 21.1, 17:00 CET and 22.1, 13:00 CET, to fix withdrawal issue manually. 

So they are working to solve the issue

Can you give a link for the support channel pls.

[KrvnoZrnce]

Hi,

This is from the cryturex oficial staff on irc support chanel:

Code:

<ThisWeeksCoin> Guys, crycurex contacted me 
<ThisWeeksCoin> We are goin to reverse all trades and withdrawals back to date 22.1, at 17:00 CET, as there was multiple price error, and some trades were not executed at correct prices. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> That means, every user will have same balances as he/she had on 22.1 at 17:00 CET 
[b]<ThisWeeksCoin> Pending withdrawals have been cancelled and you may request withdrawal again. [/b]
<ThisWeeksCoin> Deposits made after 21.1, 17:00 CET are already credited on user´s account. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> We will contact those, who received withdrawal between 21.1, 17:00 CET and 22.1, 13:00 CET, to fix withdrawal issue manually. 

So they are working to solve the issue

Now I am even more sure this was a scam...

Yeah, we could if we only had a website to withdraw from...

" We are goin to reverse all trades and withdrawals back to date 22.1, at 17:00 CET, as there was multiple price error, and some trades were not executed at correct prices."

I didn't see that this happened.. Let me guess, that buy order at 13 satoshi 7 BTC big is the issue?

[KeyserSozeMC]

Hi,

This is from the cryturex oficial staff on irc support chanel:

Code:

<ThisWeeksCoin> Guys, crycurex contacted me 
<ThisWeeksCoin> We are goin to reverse all trades and withdrawals back to date 22.1, at 17:00 CET, as there was multiple price error, and some trades were not executed at correct prices. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> That means, every user will have same balances as he/she had on 22.1 at 17:00 CET 
<ThisWeeksCoin> Pending withdrawals have been cancelled and you may request withdrawal again. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> Deposits made after 21.1, 17:00 CET are already credited on user´s account. 
<ThisWeeksCoin> We will contact those, who received withdrawal between 21.1, 17:00 CET and 22.1, 13:00 CET, to fix withdrawal issue manually. 

So they are working to solve the issue

I'm not official staff

I'm just helping. So he doesn't waste time on IRC.

Thanks for posting it here

[dinozzo]

Skip crycurex, all he has to do is give clear messages (  ( why not here ), not only in the IRC channel.
I have confidence in the upcoming VOX Exchange. It takes Some time, but hey, can only mean they Will got it right & working  

[gorgorom]

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